From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 27 15:50:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from krusty.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E121E37B416 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from emma1.emma.line.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1]) by krusty.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DAEA3826 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:50:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by emma1.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 47667A2003; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:50:48 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Subject: Re: tcpd not installed on 4.5-PRERELEASE References: <200112271938.fBRJc8N35049@cwsys.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: <200112271938.fBRJc8N35049@cwsys.cwsent.com> From: Matthias Andree Date: 28 Dec 2001 00:50:48 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes: > > I might have a different super-server than FreeBSD's inetd (tcpserver > > from DJB's ucspi-tcp!), or I might want to run a service without libwrap > > for efficiency reasons -- in that case, I'd have to run tcpd explicitly > > for the other services. > > IMO, that's why we have the tcp_wrapper port. One more followup: I cannot understand this decision. Situation: 1. a mutilated version of tcp_wrappers has been merged into the base system 2. the port refuses to build because tcp_wrappers (tcpd.h, actually) is part of the base system Why cannot either tcp_wrappers be fully merged OR the ports tree allow the build and warn instead? That's mind-bogglingly inconvenient. What's so important about leaving out tcpd and forbidding the port at the same time? Everything of tcp_wrappers is there, except this tiny tcpd program (size 2549 Bytes, 6123 on-disk) and its man page. Sure, inetd -wW gets along well without it, unless I want a service without tcp_wrappers -- Oops. If I want hosts.allow for tcpserver or something, I need to meddle with the ports stuff to be able to use tcpd. This needs fixing. -- Matthias Andree "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message