From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 25 08:09:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1ABFBB3D for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92D5A22F8 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.6.25.100] ([213.61.170.110]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MN1Gu-1VigRg31bs-006hSm for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:09:56 +0100 Message-ID: <529305D5.10500@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:09:57 +0100 From: olli hauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Perl... Somebody just shoot me and put me out of my misery! References: <25503.1385152807@server1.tristatelogic.com> <201311231220.36687.Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de> <5292F3F0.9020706@gmx.de> <5292F661.3070907@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <5292F661.3070907@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:bS67Z2fvp8LLp+zsLGjp94g5XzmRv/myowSJzktxc8i/8VZILUm lAVDSKrbmolC/i20quURCeYMjJlsty/POM6XxJss/4UYWFnbJJtTZRw7dpxQJihCYv4ENCs nFnl335MdGz7zGQRxlX0JdxtkdVj42njzvmq66gZJmYEK9q6JQHXEPSDvFLUR9UvNv5G/X7 ba3bmZvdlsOdnDk/EU7gg== Cc: Matthias Andree X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:09:59 -0000 On 2013-11-25 08:04, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 25.11.2013 07:53, schrieb olli hauer: >> On 2013-11-25 07:40, Matthias Andree wrote: >>> Am 23.11.2013 12:20, schrieb Mark Martinec: >>>> On Friday 22 November 2013 21:40:07 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>>>> Now, one last little thing... >>>>> >>>>> The note in the UPDATING file dated 20131120 gives essentially the same >>>>> instructions as the one dated 20131023, *however* it also contains this: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Change the option in lang/perl5.16: >>>>> make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl5.16 config >>>>> >>>>> HUH?? I don't understand this at all. What exactly is "the option" that >>>>> we are changing here? And what does it matter to anything? >>>>> >>>>> It would be Nice if this were entierly less opaque. >>>> >>>> $ man ports >>>> [...] >>>> config Configure OPTIONS for this port using dialog4ports(1). >>>> >>>>> And what does it matter to anything? >>>> >>>> Gives you a choice to re-think your existing/chosen port options. >>>> For example, a new default is now THREADS, but you may not like >>>> it, as it somewhat increases the memory usage and requires >>>> to rebuild all perl modules. >>> >>> Which shows an interesting facet of this whole tedious process: >>> >>> We're doing a lousy job of explaining the options to unsavvy users, and >>> we're also doing a lousy job of tracking options. Perhaps we should >>> just slash down the options and go more for "build the default" - it >>> also reduces testing complexity and would give for a more uniform ports >>> experience for everyone (packages use default options anyways). > >> >> ${opt}_DESC is limited, but help/explanation can be given in pkg-help. > > Granted, but last time I checked I did not have a "Help" button on > dialog4ports. Either none of the ports I've seen offering options offer > pkg-help, or dialog4ports needs to be told to feed pkg-help through $PAGER. Only if the file pkg-help exists a hint will be displayed on the bottom if you call `make config'. make config -C www/apache24 "Detailed help is available hit F1 or ^E to view it" F1 will terminate the config dialog if called by a putty ssh session but ^E has always worked for me. -- olli