From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sat May 13 16:32:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6651BD6B2EC; Sat, 13 May 2017 16:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x242.google.com (mail-pf0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EDE9B13; Sat, 13 May 2017 16:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x242.google.com with SMTP id u26so10499155pfd.2; Sat, 13 May 2017 09:32:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=rSZ/EcO7zxEex2JwET6SlykQHCQLYs0Y4eLZWpDtUJc=; b=pfsTtgWwX3YEa9Id6Sn3vGslJ+Yj+zzlFhjktK5ZhKMDwd3622goknZu/lYDFl6L2c sDymivqm/z/iwo0m2+gPIZ4hJlXDNUxTFLeV5qCinWd/D1tdY+Y790/t874bG8JA4gI6 5mDL2GMdtB/MVAhLKPDPDlE4KBKYTe2BFCZ9CXncNvF0A9G5IJX8mckCbmZicSzeNLsb TtW8dCiVWPu1pfqZ0uM8Jahm2qxuS6IFTGHQpnsaVGBj/5fo4ac4NMJQJJdGMDb45gBU BFYcaQJvWnQZU5Ke/fzOpMgdWnDBCUrUQm5sNOZgUwnO2TBW+zbaaEUvsQqaOhADNNR2 Ywsg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=rSZ/EcO7zxEex2JwET6SlykQHCQLYs0Y4eLZWpDtUJc=; b=Fzv6KO9rI8+ofpLOMgqNum1SLQlmr8jkjRVAICfQG/F8PpACTuYC/BhYhcGzua1zdX 76lSd/7kfmMbHMUa+ORiRp45zhwIAfgM/jjzO3HxSoXr/2bNEYzWO55IsLIizvmQwCgP sKhH4L+IUeK+o8Tht9HbASk2+b0RGwX5TN2E9BBHPFq58yVsgF7lz+j7Vy6KHOfxAu17 QPupoiay2A8yhPxU8huE4FALpQx4gg33XyWSjWR39/17Fy0HZVQ3G5fXDbiKdR3Ao7ps AixLO4s5q7L0EA32vCBiH+L3CFqYJZezlZ5lCAP6XWwkP9uHhs8Ifkf0Um2JGebNXcot tScg== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcDwxpF4Qab6Vy34gCHgB9ZGIKn2j6ZsoWcpvr0yOOoRJw8jUTCG 7gBAnbZZASAZmmeUzIs= X-Received: by 10.84.224.200 with SMTP id k8mr13611115pln.49.1494693157519; Sat, 13 May 2017 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.13] (c-73-19-52-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [73.19.52.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 7sm10915861pff.36.2017.05.13.09.32.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 13 May 2017 09:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: svn commit: r318250 - in head: etc etc/newsyslog.conf.d etc/syslog.d tools/build/mk From: Ngie Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14E304) In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 09:32:36 -0700 Cc: Ngie Cooper , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201705131537.v4DFbgWV045290@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 16:32:38 -0000 > On May 13, 2017, at 09:29, Ngie Cooper wrote: >=20 > On May 13, 2017, at 08:37, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >=20 >>> Author: ngie >>> Date: Sat May 13 03:10:50 2017 >>> New Revision: 318250 >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/318250 >>>=20 >>> Log: >>> Handle the logfiles in newsyslog and syslogd conditionally, based on >>> src.conf(5) knobs >>>=20 >>> This will allow consumers of FreeBSD to use the unmodified configuration= >>> files out of the box more than previously. >>=20 >> What about simply generating proper newsyslog.conf and syslog.conf based >> on the the MK_ values rather than change the visible administration >> interface that has finger memory, ansible, and puppet support? >=20 > - My employer doesn't use puppet on its appliances. > - Files snapshotted in time bitrot (which was the case with our configs, w= hich is part of the reason behind this change. > - It's really easy to screw up a mergemaster call if you edit the files, a= nd install the stock version which removes the edits. Also, programmatically removing the entries means you have to bake the metad= ata into etc/Makefile, which is already complicated enough as-is. Thanks, -Ngie=