From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 25 19: 0:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx.emailqueue.net (mx0.emailqueue.net [209.240.140.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE6437BAC8 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@paganlibrary.com) Received: from mx0.emailqueue.net (209.75.4.21) by mx.emailqueue.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA43068 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@paganlibrary.com) Received: from gunnar.my.domain (pool0076.cvx15-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.44.76]) by mx0.emailqueue.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA33566 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Gunnar H Reichert-Weygold Organization: The Pagan Library To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why does PORTS SUCK so BADLY!? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:30:54 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00042518315401.00333@gunnar.my.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problems I've had have either been id10t related, or PEBKAC (problem exists between keyboard and chair). On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote: > I hardly think it has to do with ports. Operator error more likely. > I do admit to having a problem with two or three ports but in the end it > was my own ignorance that was the problem, not the ports system. > Perhaps you should look at the same issue I did to find the problem. > :) > > Keith > > > ================================= > I here by change the name > of RedHat to RedSplat. > > Keith W. > At the helm > ================================= > > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > That is my question.  It seems the idea behind ports is trapped in the > > > 70's.  They hardly work and many times get errors about "file not > > > found" or something equally annoying.. so I have to go in and screw > > > with it "by hand" which is no problem for me.. but the newbies are > > > another story. Once I ran make lynx and it said I had to have X11 > > > installed.  What a crock.. another fine example is openssl ...  It > > > wants the useless RSAREF crap.  What a crock!  What does Satoshi Asami > > > have to say about the disorganization of the ports collection?  When > > > will FreeBSD come up with something more reliable?  Yes, I cvsup'd the > > > latest ports as of about a week ago. The only reason I would like to > > > see ports be more reliable is because I have lots-o-people that want > > > to run *nix.. so I recommend to them FreeBSD.  If ports were more > > > reliable, I would spend less time on the phone/net helping people > > > install stuff on their FreeBSD boxes.   So far, the easiest solution > > > is to tell them to try Linux.  rpm --install blahblahblah seems to > > > work better for newbies than depending on the ports and these folks > > > are pretty brainless when it comes to installing  things "by hand ", > > > the "old fashioned way". Any info would be appreciated.  Please > > > respond via email as I am not subscribed to the list. thanks, > > > kyates@wspice.com > > > > > I only have a couple of things to say to you about the ports > > collection. First off, you must be doing something wrong because I have > > NEVER had any of these problems. Second, many people's main reason for > > moving to FreeBSD _IS_ the ports tree. All you need to do is be sure > > you're connected to the internet when you go and type make somewhere, and > > all dependencies are fetched. I have had very few problems with the ports > > tree, and it has only made my life easier. > > > > > > ================================================================= > > | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | > > | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | > > | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | > > | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | > > | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| > > ================================================================= > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Equal opportunity heretic. Gunnar H Reichert-Weygold The Pagan Library http://www.paganlibrary.com --------------------------- FreeBSD 3.4----------PalmOS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message