From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 9 21:45:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14066 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:45:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (hsv1-184.airnet.net [207.242.81.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14055 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@airnet.net) Received: from airnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03603; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:40:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3647D1B8.C1A0CD4D@airnet.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:40:08 -0600 From: Kris Kirby Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Friedrich CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Plea to core team References: <199811091737.MAA31468@laker.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Friedrich wrote: > > I wonder if anyone subscribed to -questions besides me thinks that the > 3.0R shouldn't have been made generally available. It is allowing > total morons to destroy FreeBSD's reputation due to their incompetence. > 3.0R SHOULD be only installed by people with a freakin clue. Not > total newbies. It has resulted in a tremendous amount of noise on this > forum, because these newbies think they should be running the latest > and greatest. They aren't reading the release notes or anything else. > Please don't let them continue. Make 3.0R available only to those > willing to certify: The ones who are "causing a stink" are the ones too clueless to read the 3.0-RELEASE notes, which Jordan so gratutiously spammed to a list (or two?). > 1. They are NOT using it in a production environment > 2. They have extensive FreeBSD experience > 3. They have extensive Unix System Admin experience > 4. They realize 3.X is not yet supported I can't say I apply for numbers two and three, I just feel bad that everyone hates 3.0-RELEASE. I feel like I'm the only one who got it right although it took two days of non-continuous downloading (this is a nifty feature of the FreeBSD install, just leave it for a day waiting for user input). Something is to be said about sysinstall's unique interpretation of the download speed. I was getting ~200KB from sysinstall when I know damn well I'm using a 26400 modem connection, not multiple T1's. Now to get that CVS tree here... -- Kris Kirby UAH Mail UAH CS Home WWW ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message