From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 28 04:51:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A0016A402 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7620613C474 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0S4pv90013412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:51:58 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0S4pu36015015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:51:57 -0800 Message-ID: <45BC2BEB.4050509@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:51:55 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070126073329.BC30B16A40F@hub.freebsd.org> <200701271128.21056.odilist@sonic.net> <45BBC3D5.9060504@u.washington.edu> <20070128035858.GA38349@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20070128035858.GA38349@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.27.204432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: how to enable linux flash player [9] in firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:51:58 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:27:49PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> It's a pain in the ass that Adobe / Macromedia had to invent a >> technology that so many "web developers" sought, just because of its >> ease of "developing"; if only the "developers" sought to learn CSS and a >> bit of proper javascripting, then stuff would be easier for viewing on >> all platforms. >> > > I've nevr understood the need for something as absurd as > flash and shockwave; a graphic/animated app that was developed > for proprietary computers. But I have wanted to know if the > same thing could be done with Java. Isn't most of the sweat > in creating the animation? The big question is, how much > effort would it take to creat a javascript out of > whatever-flash-requires? Java? Not that bad, but the VM isn't as lightweight as the flash runtime engine (believe it or not). Not only that, it takes better developers than the ones that do flash (no, you can't point, click and drop little animations where you like or out of the box effects). About the only thing that flash can do that javascript and the rest can't do (easily) is video and audio, but then again that can be hacked using the right tools and setup in Java (maybe with a bit of native, or C/C++ code) to do what you need to do at lower levels. As for Javascript, it can do the majority of the junk that flash is used for nowadays, with a little proper HTML coding. Flash is just a fad that developers use to deploy quick projects (similar to VB was back in the day for Windows users). That's a good thought though.. I like that idea.. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFvCvqEnKyINQw/HARAsSPAJ9avHfXpA52mfIyS5Cpgyqy7LD37ACfSTro /fjbOgw1vzBTO3rZljAORwM= =hF7h -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----