Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 05:34:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@hub.freebsd.org> To: cweimann@wallnet.com Cc: adam@whizkidtech.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guns and freedom [Was: Re: On "intelligent people" and "dangers to BSD"] Message-ID: <20000327133415.CB88437BBB7@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20000326143235.D29554@wallnet.com> (cweimann@wallnet.com)
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> > The famous statistic that shows that you are more likely to be killed by > your own gun only shows that if you include suicides. > > http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgaga.html > http://www.i2i.org/SuptDocs/Crime/43_to_1_fallacy.htm > > Both have an explanation of the nonsense math involved in coming to > the conclusion that your own gun is 43 times more likley to kill you. before we can remove suicides from this figure, we have to assess if there is any increase ni the statistically probablilty of suicide that can bre ascribing to having a gun readily available. people sem to prefer quick and successful methods of suicide (not many suicides using a coffee grinder ;). not having teh means availabe to effect a quick and successful suicide may deter some until the feeling passes. even if we remove all suicides from the stats teh number changes from 43:1 to 2.39:1. maning that people are makine mistakes or murdering others in teh home with guns more than twice as often as using the same weapons for their avowed purpose. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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