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Date:      Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:44:54 +0100
From:      Geoff Buckingham <geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com>
To:        Ben Rosengart <ben@skunk.org>
Cc:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>, Chuck Youse <cyouse@paradox.nexuslabs.com>, Ilia Chipitsine <ilia@cgilh.chel.su>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: why FFS is THAT slower than EXT2 ?
Message-ID:  <19991027174454.A99169@chuggalug.clues.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910271242170.94542-100000@penelope.skunk.org>; from Ben Rosengart on Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 12:44:42PM -0400
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910271229520.29073-100000@picnic.mat.net> <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910271242170.94542-100000@penelope.skunk.org>

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On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 12:44:42PM -0400, Ben Rosengart wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Ben Rosengart wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Chuck Youse wrote:
> > > 
> > > > One of the biggest reasons for the difference:  FreeBSD, by default,
> > > > performs _synchronous_ metadata updates, and Linux performs asynchronous
> > > > metadata updates.  
> > > > 
> > > > It's definitely a bit slower, but the payoff is in reliability.  I have
> > > > seen more than one [production!] Linux machine completely trash its
> > > > filesystems because the implementors decided that their "NT-killer" must
> > > > have good performance at the expense of serious, production-quality
> > > > reliability.
> > > 
> > > Read the post again -- they were using soft updates.
> > 
> > Why is that important?  Soft updates is still far better than an async
> > filesystem.  Have you lost files in panics?  I haven't.
> 
> What panics?  I've been running -stable and it's been living up to the
> name.
> 
> I was pointing out to Chuck Youse that BSD metadata writes are also
> (mostly) asynchronous now, so if FFS is truly slower than ext2fs, there
> must be some other reason.
> 
I heard talk the linux folks where using btrees to better handle large 
directories.

-- 
GeoffB


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