From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Wed Mar 7 22:17:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AFAF36F24; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 22:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45018730E5; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 22:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w27MHVMa009372 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Mar 2018 00:17:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua w27MHVMa009372 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w27MHVeR009371; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 00:17:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 00:17:31 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Brooks Davis Cc: Pedro Giffuni , Eitan Adler , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r330601 - head/sys/i386/ibcs2 Message-ID: <20180307221731.GH76926@kib.kiev.ua> References: <201803071444.w27EiWBV053244@repo.freebsd.org> <20180307211955.GA63140@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180307211955.GA63140@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:17:42 -0000 On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 09:19:55PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 01:20:14PM -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > FWIW ... > > > > ibcs2 is candidate for future removal. > > It is probably time again to see if actual users exist. ibcs2 has wasted > a few hours of my time over the last few months so keeping it does have > a non-zero cost. There are users of it, I periodically (say two or three times per year) get a report of something appearing broken in it. Note that iBCS2 is disconnected from the build in HEAD in probably in stable/11. It seems that removing it from svn might be a reasonable change after all. > > > We tried to get some vendor interest in it but we failed and given this It was not a 'vendor interest'. It was an unability to get the confirmation that some patch which was written using information from the SCO headers, does not violate the license. > > is very i386-specific it is probably not worth spending huge efforts on it. > > > > cloudabi seems to be, for all purposes, a better conceptual replacement. > > This comment doesn't make much sense. iBCS is the Intel Binary > Compatibility Standard, an obsolete ABI for i386 Unixes such as Xenix, > SCO, and UnixWare. Cloudabi is, in a sense, taking Capsicum to its > logical extreme and totally unrelated. > > -- Brooks