From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 2 4:32:25 2001 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 2 04:32:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F130A37B402 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 04:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30587; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:29:17 +0200 To: "Michael C . Wu" Subject: Re: vinum malfunction! Message-ID: <978438556.3a51c99cea732@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 14:29:16 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Greg Lehey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001231101426.K99806@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010102092819.K44043@wantadilla.lemis.com> <978425185.3a519561dbcdb@webmail.harmonic.co.il> <20010102193241.C40453@wantadilla.lemis.com> <978427080.3a519cc850a45@webmail.harmonic.co.il> <20010102034408.B56810@peorth.iteration.net> In-Reply-To: <20010102034408.B56810@peorth.iteration.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting "Michael C . Wu" : > On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:18:00AM +0200, Roman Shterenzon scribbled: > | Quoting Greg Lehey : > | To sum it up: > | 1) This argument is becoming ugly. > > You are getting free consultancy. Greg charges a pretty > price for consultancy. And you are "demanding" service. ..snip... > | 3) I was trying to say that saying "too much text doesn't allow me to > work on > | it" is an EXCUSE. The PR had the needed information and it wasn't > mutilated. > | Perhaps you think that this bug seldom occures, or, perhaps you have > some other > | reason. > > Sarcasm does not win you free support. > > | 4) RAID-5 cost our company enormous down-time and cost me personally > my health. > | This is why I think it's dangerous and I want to warn others until > this bug is > | fixed. > > It's documented. Where? I asked to document it, but haven't seen it documented. If it's already documented, then I'm happy. > | 5) I'm using webmail, thus I'm unable to control the format of the > sent mail. > | Sorry. > > You are a consultant, and you should be able to find a real MUA > for your work. I'm happy that you know what I should and shouldn't know better than me. > | 6) If it's so hard to you to dig valuable information from PR 22103, I > can do it > | by myself and resubmit it. Will this make any difference? > > I read PR/22103, and I don't think you did submit the necessary > information. What's missing? Be constructive, not destructive > | 7) I appreciate your work. > > Then please do not sound demanding and make it look like you think that > you "deserve" debugging help. Greg is doing this pro bono, you know? > Like, your company is not paying him. If your company would pay him, > I am sure this problem could be resolved via other means. Hello? Do you hear me? Have you read what I've written? I *never* *ever* wanted free support for vinum, I just wanted to help vinum development, and AFAIK I did my best. And I didn't bug greg about this, I submitted info and nothing was done- it was fine with me, I did what I could do about it. What did irritate me is that greg mailed the other person and told him to send a report. My and another person's reports weren't considered at all. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message