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Date:      Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:23:04 +0200
From:      Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@math.ntnu.no>
To:        freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: idletime disconnect won't work
Message-ID:  <19980604222304B.hanche@math.ntnu.no>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 31 May 1998 15:40:54 %2B0200 (CEST)" <m0yg8M2-00024SC@bert.kts.org>
References:  <m0yg8M2-00024SC@bert.kts.org>

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- hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis):

| > While I am *not* online, I get messages like these in the log.
| > 
| > May 28 23:28:12 thoth /kernel: i4b-L1-isic_isac_irq: CRC error
| > May 28 23:28:12 thoth /kernel: i4b-L1-isic_isac_irq: Receive Aborted error
| 
| I suspect this is noise, a wrong cable or a bad cable contact. I've seen
| exactly this with a bad cable although others have different opinions on
| this. After i cut one of the plugs on the cable and crimped a new one on
| that cable this effects disappeared.
| 
| If i were you, i would have a _very_ detailed look at my S0 bus
| installation and verify _all_ S0 cables, contacts, wire orders and
| bus termination.

Um, maybe I'll try that.  Except I don't really have the equipment,
and I need a good excuse to have the phone company do it for me. 8-)
But see below...

| > Or is there always some traffic on the S-bus, even when
| > nothing interesting is going on?
| 
| Ususally, all traffic stops 10 seconds after the last device using the S0
| bus has stopped communicating. But there are exceptions, it seems that here
| in Germany it is possible to get a "constantly active" S0 bus by asking for
| it or by accident (Gary has one ;-).
| 
| > Again, how can I find out more about what is happening?
| 
| By debugging at various parts and levels of i4b. Using isdndebug you are
| able to trace many events at all layers of the kernel part; using isdntrace
| (have a look at the -i flag output) shows what is going on on the S0 bus
| for the machine running i4b - using a second machine with 2 passive cards

Haven't got a second machine, sorry...  But I stopped isdnd and ran
isdntrace -b on my one machine, and this appeared:

=========== isdntrace controller #0 =========== started Thu Jun  4 22:04:00 1998

-- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000001 - time:04.06 22:04:24.58 - length:8 ----------
Dump:000  fe ff 03 0f 00 00 04 ff                               ........
LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x0000, IdCheckReq, Ai=127

-- TE->NT - unit:0 - frame:000002 - time:04.06 22:04:24.58 - length:8 ----------
Dump:000  fc ff 03 0f 4d 9c 05 83                               ....M...
LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x9c4d, IdCheckResp, Ai=65

-- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000003 - time:04.06 22:04:56.79 - length:8 ----------
Dump:000  fe ff 03 0f 00 00 04 ff                               ........
LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x0000, IdCheckReq, Ai=127

-- TE->NT - unit:0 - frame:000004 - time:04.06 22:04:56.79 - length:8 ----------
Dump:000  fc ff 03 0f d8 59 05 83                               .....Y..
LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x59d8, IdCheckResp, Ai=65

-- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000005 - time:04.06 22:05:29.01 - length:8 ----------
Dump:000  fe ff 03 0f 00 00 04 ff                               ........
LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x0000, IdCheckReq, Ai=127

-- TE->NT - unit:0 - frame:000006 - time:04.06 22:05:29.01 - length:8 ----------
Dump:000  fc ff 03 0f 29 b6 05 83                               ....)...
LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0xb629, IdCheckResp, Ai=65

These messages came in groups of two, one IdCheckReq and one
IdCheckResp at the time, and always at the same time log messages like
showed above appeared.  Seems like my NT box is chattering to my ISDN
telephone, asking for an identity and getting a response back, at
irregular intervals.

Comments?

- Harald

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