From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 30 08:05:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD2D16A41F for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:05:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msch@snafu.de) Received: from sour.visp.de (sour.visp.de [84.23.254.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3289A43D45 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:05:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msch@snafu.de) X-Trace: 507c6d73636840736e6166752e64657c38342e3139302e3136392e3235327c3144 796d4c372d3030303766582d474f7c31313232373130373031 Received: from sour.visp.de ([10.154.10.19] helo=localhost) by sour.visp.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.51 id 1DymL7-0007fX-GO) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:05:01 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <084B3966-0B20-430A-9DAF-ECAF6A3693A6@snafu.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Matthias Schuendehuette Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:04:49 +0200 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) Subject: Re: Quality of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:05:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >> I know the developers don't hear it often enough, but thanks for all you=20 >> do. I'm not a programmer, and I currently don't have the funds to=20 >> donate to the project, but you do have my heartfelt thanks for still=20 >> turning out my favorite OS. > You're welcome, and I'm sure I speak for at least a few other developers > when I say that you'd be surprised how valuable a "donation" of a few > kind words can be. I'm following this thread from the start on. To add a "few kind words" I may report that I have three FreeBSD-5 servers (COMPAQ/HP ProLiant) up'n running for quite some time now (starting with 5.2.1!) and they act very well!! Mainly NFS and Samba servers, so their focus lies on filesystem space. To be honest, I was a bit astonished how many people obviously use ATA-Disks in a fileserver environment. I just read an article in the german iX-Magazine where the author emphasizes (once again!) that ATA disks are *not* designed for 24*7 use (with the exception of WDs Raptor). Considered the weak definitions in the so called "ATA- standard", I can't imagine for me personal to use ATA-disks for more than more or less temporary storage. Especially if I earn money with the server in question I always heard the urgent recommendation to use SCSI-disk. If I compare the value of the data with the cost of a SCSI subsystem, there are no questions any more... Some special kind words go to Soren Schmidt here. I never understood how one person could voluntary dive into this "shark basin" of ATA. There are no merits to earn and there seem to be always many "special" combinations of hardware, which don't work. A well thought out standard should avoid exactly that! So "Hats off" to Soren for his work and his boundless ability to suffer with the many complaints. So I stay with the old FreeBSD behaviour to use proven technology[TM] and let the cheap toys for the Linux-kiddies. It remains true: You get what you pay for! - -- Ciao/BSD - Matthias Matthias Schuendehuette , Berlin (Germany) PGP-Key at and ID: 0xDDFB0A5F -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFC6zSnf1BNcN37Cl8RAnd0AJ9enOmZ1VcCLNG3CqTuwE5iHtSnJwCcCEAQ 5d1lAHQdhkMxyCDzj8E8xv4= =arDg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----