From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 05:32:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 682A8357 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 05:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "funkthat.com", Issuer "funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 282BE1732 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 05:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s885Wo2i089278 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Sep 2014 22:32:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id s885Wo7u089277; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 22:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 22:32:50 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Improving /etc/motd and ANSI Message-ID: <20140908053250.GE82175@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , Warner Losh , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (h2.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 05:32:53 -0000 Warren Block wrote this message on Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 18:01 -0600: > As another experiment, here is a version using whitespace: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/motd/motd.whitespace > > While it's not as clear as the ANSI version, it is better than the > troff-style quotes version. Still requires 7-bit ASCII, though. :) The whitespace one is good, but you should have a : after the with... Also, we should reference a url for questions or problems, and not include questions@ in the motd... The url can better include information, and other places to find help, like for forums.. P.S. I've always been confused what command means.. Does it mean the program, or the program w/ the arguments? The sh man page does not define it, but uses command to mean both the program ("set built-in command") and the program with arguments ("commands can be typed directly"). Even the wikipedia page is confuses the two... Is there no good way to tell the distinguish the two? The reason I ask is that me knowing too much thought of this: $ "man man" man man: not found But that's just me. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."