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Date:      Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:14:34 -0500
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Greg Black <freebsd@mail.gbch.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recommendations for a serial port card you can actually BUY?
Message-ID:  <20061006141434.GC1271@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>
In-Reply-To: <nospam-1160098393.55122@iliad.gbch.net>
References:  <20061005151925.GA1156@FS.denninger.net> <20061005190822.GA15547@icarus.home.lan> <20061005202144.GA11105@FS.denninger.net> <20061005210447.GA82687@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20061006000956.GC2473@FS.denninger.net> <20061006002234.GC82687@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <nospam-1160098393.55122@iliad.gbch.net>

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On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 11:33:13AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
> On 2006-10-05, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 07:09:56PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 04:04:47PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 03:21:44PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
> > > > >=20
> > > > > FreeBSD's USB support has always been somewhat deficient.  For ex=
ample,
> > > > > apcupsd can't talk to their UPSs over the USB bus, even though th=
e software
> > > > > itself knows how, because FreeBSD doesn't know what a UPS is and =
throws up
> > > > > its hands when you plug it in.
> > > >=20
> > > > This is false for at least the APC SmartUPS the machine I'm sending=
 this
> > > > from is connected to.  I wouldn't be suprised if it was true once, =
but
> > > > it isn't today.
> > > >=20
> > > > ugen0: American Power Conversion Smart-UPS 750 FW:651.12.D USB FW:4=
=2E2, rev 1.10/0.06, addr 2
> > >=20
> > > Does apcupsd connect to it?  I tried this back on 5.x and it failed
> > > miserably.  It identified the unit, but wouldn't talk to it.
> >=20
> > Yes.  I get notifications of power failures and can query status.
>=20
> I don't know what you guys are doing right, but it doesn't work
> right for me on
>=20
>     $ uname -srm
>     FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE amd64
>=20
> I do get some results: this is the console when it's connected:
>=20
>     ugen1: American Power Conversion Smart-UPS 750 FW:651.12.I USB FW:7.3=
, rev 1.10/0.06, addr 6
>=20
> I find that apcaccess gives much less info from the USB port
> than it does from the RS232 port (on the same hardware) and
> apctest (which I want to use to set eprom values) doesn't work
> at all.  This is very irritating, as I'd like to use my only
> serial port for a remote console.
>=20
> For now, I've gone back to using the serial port.  But I'd love
> the USB to work fully.

I don't seem to need the other features.  This is not a FreeBSD issue
since FreeBSD just knows enough to not try to do anything to the device,
it's an apcupsd issue or possibly a weakness in APCs USB implementation.

-- Brooks

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