From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:03:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDF7106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC108FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P03hDX055459; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:03:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:02:58 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:03:07 -0000 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:09:51PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Guys, I've got several directories off ~kline/ that I want to > > store permanently. Like all my development code in ~/devel, and > > all my music mp3's and ogg's in ~/Music, and all my online and > > mp3 books from libribox.org in ~/readings. There are PDF files > > and HTML and a slew of other stuff. > > man mkisofs > man growisofs > > that's all. > > mkisofs creates ISO image > growisofs records DVD > > you can make growisofs run mkisofs in-flight so no image file has to be > made. > > > > > > either a few CD's or one DVD? Right now, I'm cross-backing up > > it's best NOT to use "GUI" interfaces for this. as always - doing it from > command line is much easier when you learn. > I understand that! ...learned the hard way:) Then again, I cheated and successfully used the K3B data-dvd mode. It only seemed to work 50%, then hung, but amazingly, the folder icons on the top left were movable to the large space on the lower right half. I chose the verify option. Now back to my original plans of using the command-line tool set. So far, so good. After a dozen failures, your earlier post did work. I did a mkdir cdr; cp'd hundreds of megs into it, then ran mkisofs. And lastly ran dvdisaster against the iso file to get an ECC listing. Now to find out how to burn this image to a CD or DVD.... > > and - you ARE NOT forced to use ISO-9660 filesystem. > in unix recorded DVD is just readonly disk, you can use any filesystem it > supports. So long as this is readable on FBSD, Linux, or a Mac, I'll be happy. > > if you do this often and your DVD's don't need to be windoze-readable > (which could be adventage sometimes) then: > > - create partitions of exactly 9180416 sectors (which is 2295104 2K > sectors - exactly DVD size) > - use newfs to create partition. for best results use options > > newfs -m 0 -b 32768 -f 4096 -i 524288 > > note that -i specify how much bytes is available per inode. more > given=less inodes created and less space wasted, but you may run out of > inodes storing small files. > this example allows you to store about 8900 files. wHat are the numbers ofr a CD-R/CD+RW? Would growisofs be able to figure this out from scanning a 700MB disc? (I have more CD's than DVD's.) > > - mount it and record what you like as usual > - unmount and use growisofs to record a disc. > > use that disc with > mount -r /dev/cd0 /mountpoint > > Thanks much. A FWIW to anyone reading this who is new to this optical stuff. Roland Smith has an outstanding writeup on how to configure the /etc/devfs files. I used in in late '07, then after my network meltdown when I needed to start from square-one, his tutorial got me going again. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:09:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CAA106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D18FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3707788fgb.35 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:09:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tMqSmJCY4TURmIu+SBgPMRWtGgei5HzbnhF0R7ZZhH0=; b=nvMZrWGKhYcByYWJEcGMm2ZbZu5ZhQYkZaeQ6Ukh+Xo6UmATaDjsNoigMpyWF5vuy/ R/cqfEfaXC3D7nabA31cm1Pi1ZzUqbd823Oces914IhENrHKmH+ruttNSGVqKMkCxn+1 wuLsKgVZagdnCshekn88W/ubHaPTuRpBY6WIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=h5gHaj22IpmKcVPtBs9dXDYFpH12UUrWllv/6NpZGXSMLUnzAMRwHcncsZuZraPFB6 9y5BrLNzbzUH0QsfaoqiDp6h+rS4NYJYay9tlgHpZouhRGhpdu5znC8yK8A8hwnmG+Vj lG4PILha5bfO0LYeXMDBAhSc3lCgXlT9ZFxZk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.84.18 with SMTP id h18mr75805fgb.22.1232842191253; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:09:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750901240836s4461ee1dt9cdb806dcf34492a@mail.gmail.com> References: <9a52b1190901231938x390f04b4je541d2fa16f9f60a@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240445u36de7beeg737901c82c27f62f@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240836s4461ee1dt9cdb806dcf34492a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:51 +0000 Message-ID: From: Freminlins To: "Paul B. Mahol" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Saifi Khan , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:53 -0000 2009/1/24 Paul B. Mahol > > Well for 9.63 there is only static one for FreeBSD 5. > After all this is not freebsd problem, ask opera where is > static version for FreeBSD 7 ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/unix/freebsd/963/en/intel/static/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:10:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540A11065679 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC7D8FC24 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8793C50A19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AeveL3wk+iLr for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BBC86509D3; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090125001001.BBC86509D3@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-01-04 - 2009-01-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:07 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:12:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A3A1065686 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5E48FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3708393fgb.35 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:12:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jGJH/iRMLWt8bxRCPONQYA5qI+14Z3A0qmfCu6Gymwo=; b=klseZyuZWpd5tSqKVzPPUa1p5lICIZw6vLv2V8+bHz5DnbVzGjNG6t8TXBMH+kh7T9 6kMAqC1aqPJSQewuV2d0NEj7id6ubahZ6L3uDVjoFWk6t2yq4BiB2B4e+GYeuBjirOjA kWTFY1XT/MZ3pD2xfml7e7+8QisHRflnMDjNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=c7tJrZqC963zPdMTytY5xwt0RSxDMGq871pnIfvr+OvPpePqt/y3obUT1suk6D+Aqt R4VvJwB3uWJf94AjZWuevGZNYzJKbtBC/piI4ahjvTBuu968nMF++q/4u9VLlHnWak7I dp/TklyUZrZ5Iro1DoJFl+IAKxYMEkExcqaAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.59.18 with SMTP id h18mr631508fga.5.1232842355661; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:12:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9a52b1190901231938x390f04b4je541d2fa16f9f60a@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240445u36de7beeg737901c82c27f62f@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240836s4461ee1dt9cdb806dcf34492a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: Freminlins To: "Paul B. Mahol" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Saifi Khan , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:37 -0000 Sorry, my bad. I misread you wanted the static version for 7. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:03:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC6106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F15E8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DCC16C018C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:03:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P13oQQ001594; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:03:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:03:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:03:58 -0000 On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:14:08 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > You can always try to tar it up directly > > > > tar -czf /dev/acd0 ~kline/ ~devel/ > > Does it actually work to write to a burner without intervention by > the likes of cdrecord or burncd? If so, should it also be possible > to burn an existing .iso by something like > > dd if=cd1.iso of=/dev/acd0 bs=64b 1st: On FreeBSD, using direct write calls would involve the ATAPICAM facility, so /dev/cd0 instead of /dev/acd0 would be the correct device. 2nd: I'm not sure this works on FreeBSD, but I remember having used something similar on a SCSI CD recorder on a Sun or SGI system. I'm not sure which one it was, but it allowed to handle CDs the same way as other SCSI devices, like tape drives. You could try it out by loading the ATAPICAM subsystem (via kldload or compiled into kernel) and then try one of the commands above. I'm not sure dd works, but tar should. But to be honest, I've never tried it out because I'm very comfortable with cdrecord and cdrdao, and was with burncd in the past. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:11:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97856106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5794E8FC25 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A030C16C018C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1BCun001620 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Comfortable dd bs= parameters for different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:18 -0000 Hi, I'd like to ask which sizes are comfortable to use for reading from different media using the dd utility. As far as I know, these are good values: Format Device (example) bs= ------------- --------------------- ---- Data CD /dev/acd0 2048 Music CD /dev/acd0t01 2352 DVD /dev/acd0 2048 (?) Hard disk /dev/ad0s1g 1m (?) The usual command is % dd if=/dev/see-above of=somefile.dd bs=whatever What about copying partition-wise from a hard disk to a dd file? Which bs= parameter would be encouraged to use? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:27:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786FD106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F321B8FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B45D3CC76; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1Ql7g001648; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Eduardo Cerejo Message-Id: <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:27:05 -0000 On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:15:47 -0500, Eduardo Cerejo wrote: > I just finished installing kde4, and it can barely run on my old p4 machine! > Where has kde gone? Is the developing team trying to beat VISTA? > Pitiful at best! Without wanting to start an endless discussion, I may say that I've recognized the tendency to slow down programs in UNIX world such as it is always described in "Windows" land: As soon as you get a new OS or new programs, everything runs slower than before. In order to keep the "overall usage speed", you need to have more hardware power. I'm running a P4 2GHz for more than 4 years now happily (I think), but when I needed to build a new software installation due to a data fallout in July 2008, I found everything running slower. THIS TO ALL FreeBSD DEVELOPERS: NOT YOUR FAULT! Every release of FreeBSD brought a higher bootup speed to my system, faster system services and better performance. But what about these advantages? They've got eaten up by all the applications installed, their libraries and especially their GUI toolkits. Nearly every Gtk application has been switched from Gtk 1 to Gtk 2, including more disk consuming libs and depencencies, slower program startup and slower reaction. My "favourite" examples are: * Opera, hardly reacting on input while loading a web page (and no, I don't try to use "Flash" stuff) * Gimp, loads very slowly, needs seconds (!) to show the right click menu, needs several seconds to launch printing dialog On the other hand, there are "old" programs that seem to profit from the system's speed gain. That's why I love to use them instead of their "oversized brothers". Such an "oversized brother" is KDE 4. Don't get me wrong, please. On an up-to-date hardware basis, it's surely a joy to use, fast and responsive. But if your system isn't from today, you don't gonna have fun with it. Around me, other users seem to favour Gnome instead of KDE because they are not willing to update their perfectly running hardware with every release of the desktop environment. (Addition: Gnome has better german internationalisation than KDE.) But I'm not sure if Gnome or even XFCE will follow the "tradition" to decrease speed, I'm using neither of them. Decrease speed? In my opinion, the following formula is true: hardware resources ----------------------- = usage speed software requirements And if you add ++ to numerator and denominator of this quotient, you'll see that the result will stay the same. This is my very individual observation: People are doing the same things with their computers over the years, and they keep doing it *at the same speed* as years ago. I always was happy when I could update my FreeBSD system, because things were faster afterwards. Today, things are slower afterwards. This makes me sad... This has lead me to the conclusion not to use KDE, allthough it has really interesting applications. It's not that I need a desktop GUI system, I'm perfectly happy with a functional and fast window manager (i. e. WindowMaker). Sorry for bothering the list with my thoughts, but maybe I'm not alone with this "unmodern" point of view. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:29:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D41110656CA for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99298FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so232010ewy.19 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:28:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pt4b+XgHLCKdhuaS2IAWQQC7jPp14SExkS0FTcdIjZo=; b=kLQaJhakJQVjPoirfNdt6AGjl/h0V4mqwkzJHKGpycZyjvYl2MTGjJ5MJnm8f6N1hm tdI3h1jkC7feGJAhoqfA5j6D29/6nUXOZ4v022bUUBKUYJDbZL74AiOzXQAQSU2v2qU7 j/2HD2+GOAy8jHkDbm7ba0ix3VS0l03x1g5xg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=amBeUr461JA5iuBiIEIau/6zutadCpaVi/mYF6bvpvCRlqAnxULCeuL9Fm03qOOpo4 fp2ie5sl5JZrQU8HovE47M+U5OyfxM/F6Wizw6kSRrfjN45ZIVWqwetTynGiUlhP8YSc pOsk9YNpohb9SVFy7+2HlaBxwoA014EVh+irs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.119.16 with SMTP id r16mr2036550ebc.42.1232845058231; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:57:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:57:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: EA EA To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: X panics on xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:01 -0000 I just upgraded X and when I started X with a fresh config. When X starts I see the normal no-wm-yet screen with an unmovable mouse. When I press ctrl+alt+spc I hear 3 beeps followed by a black screen. I tried x11/nvidia-driver and x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. What should I be trying to fix it? What information do you (I?) need to debug? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:32:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34227106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD0E8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7SJi1b00F0vp7WLAAdYVAH; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:29 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7dYT1b00G0Yq9Sc8RdYUvp; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 +0000 Message-ID: <497BC134.6060300@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:32:36 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090124012329.N39560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090123171148.348ca12c@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <20090123171148.348ca12c@gom.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 -0000 prad wrote: > :D :D :D > actually my wife is using kde4 on suse. > it's not too bad there for her needs at least, but i try to stay clear > of her computer :D > i did like kde3, but now i'm a dwm person! > > I've been using KDE4 on a machine with OpenSUSE 11 that has 512 MBs RAM, and an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ processor at 2.13GHz and it hasn't been slow or anything. I've also been fine with a Pentium 4 M @3.06GHz and 512 RAM. -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:35:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6091C106570B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8018FC26 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE18C3CBC2; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:34:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1Yk3S001671; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:34:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:34:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Dan Nelson Message-Id: <20090125023445.228e1375.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090124080755.GB63837@dan.emsphone.com> References: <9a52b1190901232301g3339fe3bi508b04ef3aef1a3e@mail.gmail.com> <497AC692.2080401@gmail.com> <20090124080755.GB63837@dan.emsphone.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tim Judd , Saifi Khan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to scrollback in terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:35:03 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:07:59 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jan 24), Tim Judd said: > > Saifi Khan wrote: > > > > > > i'd like to scrollback on the multi page output on the terminal in > > > FreeBSD 7.1 > > > > > > SHIFT key + Pg Up doesn't seem to work. > > > > > > Can somebody post how to scrollback in terminal ? > > > > scroll lock, and pgup That's what Scroll Lock is for (and always has been); I'm glad that FreeBSD uses this key functionality as it has been intended, so there's not another useless key on the keyboard (such as the MICROS~1 advertising keys on "modern" ones)... :-) > After you hit scroll-lock, up/down/pgup/pgdn/home/end all work, you can > copy and paste the history text with your mouse, and there's a separate > history per VTY. You can also set the number of scrollback lines with > the "vidcontrol -n ###" command. While in "Scroll Lock mode", you can even enter characters using the keyboard; they won't show up until ScrL is pressed the next time, but while entering the content of the screen (usually shifted some lines / pages up) won't alter. This can be very handy in situations where you first ScrL the screen, go up some pages, select text with the mouse, output it from the edit buffer to the command line using the middle mouse button and then un-ScrL to complete your command line and execute it. > Significantly better than Linux's > scrollback... Definitely. I think the Linux way of scrollback is available in xterms... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:54:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43993106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E328FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146613CB3C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1rkNi001712; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:54:06 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:02:58 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > After a dozen failures, your earlier post did work. I did a > mkdir cdr; cp'd hundreds of megs into it, then ran mkisofs. And > lastly ran dvdisaster against the iso file to get an ECC listing. > > Now to find out how to burn this image to a CD or DVD.... There are several possibilities. The hard way? :-) 1. Record on CD-R(W) a) FreeBSD's burncd % burncd -e -v -s 16 -f /dev/acd0 data cdr.iso fixate b) The port cdrtools (includes cdrecord) % cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data cdr.iso 2. Record on DVD+-*/R(W) The port dvd+rw-tools (includes growisofs) growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=cdr.iso This example implies the following setting in /etc/devfs.conf: link cd0 dvd Alter device to fit your needs. As aleays, check the manpages. They're helpful and include kind-of copy & paste examples. Note that 1 b) and 2 need atapicam (in kernel or via kldload). For 1 b), you can check which SCSI ID corresponds to your recorder using the command % camcontrol devlist Have in mind that permissions have to be set correctly in order to access these devices for writing. It's intended to be that way. :-) Finally, check the optimal writing speed for your CDs and DVDs. > So long as this is readable on FBSD, Linux, or a Mac, I'll be > happy. These platforms will read everything that has been mentioned in this thread already, because they're real operating systems (and not excuses for being none). :-) I think the ISO-9660 + RockRidge is the most comfortable way for what you intend - allthough the tar method (or even the UFS method) won't be any problem here. But as I said, maximum compatibility is always welcome for backups. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:56:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B68106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A577E8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P1vHRw056401; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:33 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:56:57 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:03:49AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:14:08 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > You can always try to tar it up directly > > > > > > tar -czf /dev/acd0 ~kline/ ~devel/ > > > > Does it actually work to write to a burner without intervention by > > the likes of cdrecord or burncd? If so, should it also be possible > > to burn an existing .iso by something like > > > > dd if=cd1.iso of=/dev/acd0 bs=64b > > 1st: On FreeBSD, using direct write calls would involve the ATAPICAM > facility, so /dev/cd0 instead of /dev/acd0 would be the correct device. > > 2nd: I'm not sure this works on FreeBSD, but I remember having used > something similar on a SCSI CD recorder on a Sun or SGI system. I'm > not sure which one it was, but it allowed to handle CDs the same way > as other SCSI devices, like tape drives. > > You could try it out by loading the ATAPICAM subsystem (via kldload > or compiled into kernel) and then try one of the commands above. > I'm not sure dd works, but tar should. But to be honest, I've never > tried it out because I'm very comfortable with cdrecord and cdrdao, > and was with burncd in the past. > > > This is my chance to ask a last [ or one-of the last ] question[s]. Now that I have cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. cdrdao seems like more toward audio, so i'm guessing that it's either cdrecord or burncd. I'll share my shell script once it works on both media. thankee, gary > > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:01:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9251065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreyhellem@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1FB8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreyhellem@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5450342rvf.43 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:01:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mROAlN701V8pBKUk/VDXzOegjzgHXnHpUVSRlPJpBKs=; b=ZznKIz8wPV+cD26Z58/BEeFfmpANnkz3ydBbHa2Gudh6+yy5FeO+mrpZyGU9GprdxW nbxuFD/QHJ8VvfMXhFwHM4cZKfD2PQoME+Gkm6jYRmG8KMlTXfilQTcDmqtp4t8h7HGS ciRWq8SJCracTi7zdwEUOQNhewwn8Jc8iXyYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vCd83EVEhTjWfzXBQCzYMptctsM6ROiXhQuG2kxyay2gloaNaLGaw/QWX7XQxU+QqG 6yKZ3EDGB7hVSrHYTZkf13TcIns1aLhgDpB0DYyEFqdxMHOmAMfKzcfFZuBLqP4kSSh+ 0+ZO8I4dQOuYvcrT3D8K4nUeN8t/g7Kr1YrLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.43.19 with SMTP id q19mr146318wfq.286.1232847428554; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:37:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:37:08 -0500 Message-ID: <85c8e1e10901241737t4077ce4fjfc611aa849de2702@mail.gmail.com> From: "Jeffrey R. Hellem" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Wierd Port Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:01:54 -0000 I aborted a make now it will not make php5-dba [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make ===> PHPizing for php5-dba-5.2.8 cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba/work/php-5.2.8/ext/dba *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. the work directory doesn't exist i cleared /var/db/ports it still won't make anyone have suggestions? i tried make clean [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make clean ===> Cleaning for php5-dba-5.2.8 [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# i tried make install [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make install install: /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba/work/php-5.2.8/ext/dba/modules/dba.so: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 1 error *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. i tried make [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make ===> PHPizing for php5-dba-5.2.8 cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba/work/php-5.2.8/ext/dba *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. still nothing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:11:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FC71065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34D58FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LQuSp-00012W-6k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:11:07 +1100 Message-ID: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:11:18 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:09 -0000 I havee 2 burrners in my machine and not one off them will bburn a CD or DVD from command line let alone trying to get k3b to recognise i even have a scsi burner... enterprise# burncd -e -v -s 16 -f /dev/acd0 data neroultraV7.iso fixate adding type 0x08 file neroultraV7.iso size 620990 KB 310495 blocks burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCINITTRACK): Input/output error After this error the ROM drives stays in a constant state of spin and the process refuses to die even after issuing the kill -9 What am i doing wrrong or what is wroong with my system to not allow me to burn a cd//dvd? I am usingg FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE 4.1.4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:19:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BA7106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6462C8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F0F3CBAA; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:18:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2IhEZ002091; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:18:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:18:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:19:05 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Now that I have > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. You're right. It is a pre-mastered file system that just needs to be recorded onto a media. The size 657922048 indicates that it would fit onto a regular CD-R. > cdrdao seems like more toward audio, so i'm guessing that it's > either cdrecord or burncd. I'll share my shell script once it > works on both media. Yes, both will work, and yes, cdrdao is better for audio or mixed forms (allthough it can burn data ISO, too, but I don't know how, out of the box). :-) You may follow my examples from Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:46 +0100. I'm a lazy guy, so I've setup the following aliases in /etc/csh.cshrc: alias burndata 'cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data' alias burnaudio 'cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -dao -audio' alias burntoc 'cdrdao write --driver generic-mmc-raw --device 1,0,0 --speed 16 --eject' And I've got a shell script "burndvd" in ~/bin (included in $PATH): #!/bin/sh if [ "$1" = "" ]; then echo "$0 " exit 1 fi if [ ! -f "$1" ]; then echo "$0: cannot open $1" exit 1 fi growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=$1 cdcontrol eject I know this is *very* lazy stuff, but it works, and I never change a running system. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:26:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B9F1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6928FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0P2Pu9a001542 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0P2PuaC001541; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13385; Sat, 24 Jan 09 17:43:43 PST Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:45:26 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Message-Id: <497bc436.fNXOAyK1W2GhLkwf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <3.0.1.32.20090123081931.00ed6460@sage-american.com> <20090123170132.M38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1232756388.2027.10.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090124114057.X40562@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090124114057.X40562@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Registry corrupt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:21 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> describe something more. > >> and what you mean "rehash"? > > > > Rehashing forces the shell to "reinitialise" (for want of a > > better term) so that it rechecks the path and can sometimes > > discover new programs installed if they don't seem to work ... > > ok you mean shell rehashing. so PATH is missing something Or an executable was added to one of the PATH directories since the last time PATH was set or the "rehash" command was issued, e.g. when a port was installed or upgraded. See tcsh(1) for details. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:27:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E42A106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9938FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6D716C0097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:27:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2QxKh002124; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:26:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:26:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Liddell Message-Id: <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> References: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:27:07 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:11:18 +1000, Warren Liddell wrote: > I havee 2 burrners in my machine and not one off them will bburn a CD or > DVD from command line let alone trying to get k3b to recognise i even > have a scsi burner... > > [...] > > After this error the ROM drives stays in a constant state of spin and > the process refuses to die even after issuing the kill -9 > I had similar problems, so I dropped burncd in favour of cdrecord which I'm using for burning ISO data CDs. > What am i doing wrrong or what is wroong with my system to not allow me > to burn a cd//dvd? For a CD, try % cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data neroultraV7.iso Check the SCSI device numbers using % camcontrol devlist and adjust the dev= parameter accordingly. For a DVD, try % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=neroultraV7.iso Excange /dev/dvd for the correct drive (e. g. /dev/cd0). > I am usingg FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE 4.1.4 I don't know exactly, but can K3B be adjusted to use a specific command line burning tool to record pre-mastered ISO files onto CD or DVD? Maybe you could put one of the command lines above into this program... (I'm no KDE user, so I can't check this.) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:32:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600C0106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147B58FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P2WkWi056663; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:01 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090125023201.GE31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:32:21 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:53:46AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:02:58 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > After a dozen failures, your earlier post did work. I did a > > mkdir cdr; cp'd hundreds of megs into it, then ran mkisofs. And > > lastly ran dvdisaster against the iso file to get an ECC listing. > > > > Now to find out how to burn this image to a CD or DVD.... > > There are several possibilities. The hard way? :-) > > 1. Record on CD-R(W) > > a) FreeBSD's burncd > > % burncd -e -v -s 16 -f /dev/acd0 data cdr.iso fixate > > b) The port cdrtools (includes cdrecord) > > % cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data cdr.iso > > 2. Record on DVD+-*/R(W) > > The port dvd+rw-tools (includes growisofs) > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=cdr.iso > > This example implies the following setting in /etc/devfs.conf: > > link cd0 dvd > > Alter device to fit your needs. > > As aleays, check the manpages. They're helpful and include kind-of > copy & paste examples. > > Note that 1 b) and 2 need atapicam (in kernel or via kldload). > > For 1 b), you can check which SCSI ID corresponds to your recorder > using the command > > % camcontrol devlist > > Have in mind that permissions have to be set correctly in order to > access these devices for writing. It's intended to be that way. :-) > > Finally, check the optimal writing speed for your CDs and DVDs. > > > > > So long as this is readable on FBSD, Linux, or a Mac, I'll be > > happy. > > These platforms will read everything that has been mentioned in > this thread already, because they're real operating systems (and > not excuses for being none). :-) > > I think the ISO-9660 + RockRidge is the most comfortable way for > what you intend - allthough the tar method (or even the UFS method) > won't be any problem here. But as I said, maximum compatibility is > always welcome for backups. > Max, yes, even if all I have is DOS :-) Thanks very much. I do have dvd linked in /etc/devfs.conf, as well as the atapi/cam/SCSI xpt stuff compiled in. So the last step would seem to be simply mousing in your cdrecord for my CD's. Probably use a seperate script for the DVD's and growiofs. gary > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:35:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DBF106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58E78FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB5E36A15; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:35:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:35:44 +0100 From: cpghost To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:35:13 -0000 On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 05:56:33PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Now that I have > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. In addition to the cdrecord examples shown earlier, you can also simply use burncd: # burncd -f /dev/acd0 -s max data cdr.iso fixate But remember one thing: don't try to mix and match accesses to /dev/acd0 and /dev/cd0. IIRC, there are (were?) some issues with using ATAPI and ATAPICAM drivers simultaneously. If you prefer to stick to ATAPICAM (recommended), use cdrecord to write to the virtual device represending the burner. Use cdrecord's -scanbus option (as root!) to find out: phenom# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd7.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) * 0,1,0 1) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7203A ' '1.01' Removable CD-ROM 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * This would then be on that machine: # cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,1,0 cdr.iso To burn to a DVD, use growisofs, using something like this: # growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=8 -Z /dev/cd0=cdr.iso Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:42:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7AA106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F328FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA8216C0097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:42:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2gSkV002168; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:42:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:42:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090125034228.f8ccd623.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125023201.GE31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125023201.GE31215@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:42:36 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:01 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Max, yes, even if all I have is DOS :-) Sure, no problem. Erm stop, no, little problem with DOS: It will cut off filenames at 8.3 convention because DOS only gets the ISO-9660 part, but not the standard RockRidge (or even the non- standard "Joliet" extension). But because RockRidge is standard, it provides the RR_MOVED mechanism which can be used to obtain the "real" filenames from the ISO-9660 8.3 names. > Thanks very much. I do have dvd linked in /etc/devfs.conf, as > well as the atapi/cam/SCSI xpt stuff compiled in. You just need to have the proper permissions, or call the command with a "sudo" prefix - I prefer the first option. > Probably use a seperate script for the DVD's and growiofs. Because the geowisofs burning command doesn't allow the file name for the ISO to be a separate parameter, I chose to put it into a little shell script. That's the only reason that I didn't create an alias in /etc/csh.cshrc. If something like % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd -f cdr.iso ^^^^^^^^^^, fictional parameter would be possible, I would really prefer it. The alias could then be everything until "-f" (which would read out "use this file as image" instead of the "device=file" parameter which isn't good for creating an alias (such as for cdrecord or cdrdao). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:51:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB385106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C05D8FC1F for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C5E16C0097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:51:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2pK6n002210; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:51:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:51:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: cpghost Message-Id: <20090125035120.857ab8d3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:51:27 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:35:44 +0100, cpghost wrote: > In addition to the cdrecord examples shown earlier, you can also > simply use burncd: > > # burncd -f /dev/acd0 -s max data cdr.iso fixate An addition: -s max will select the drive's fastest speed. This can lead to problems if your media is cheap and can't handle a speed of 32x or 48x (writing speed). You can manually set a speed where you and your media feel safe. :-) Personally, I don't record faster than 16x. There is a saying (urband legend?) that you shouldn't record audio CDs faster than 8x, but I'm not sure if this applies. > But remember one thing: don't try to mix and match accesses to > /dev/acd0 and /dev/cd0. IIRC, there are (were?) some issues with > using ATAPI and ATAPICAM drivers simultaneously. I haven't found such issues yet, but I dropped burncd some time ago because it wouldn't work on /dev/acd0 anymore (on 5.x, it did and was my preferred tool), so I switched to cdrecord and cdrdao, using the ATAPICAM facility. > If you prefer to stick to ATAPICAM (recommended), use cdrecord > to write to the virtual device represending the burner. Use > cdrecord's -scanbus option (as root!) to find out: > > phenom# cdrecord -scanbus > [...] > 0,1,0 1) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7203A ' '1.01' Removable CD-ROM > [...] I think the camcontrol utility (provided by the OS) works, too: % camcontrol devlist at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass0) ^ ^ ^ ^^^ This command shows you the SCSI ID 1,0,0 and the device /dev/cd0 for the recorder at the same time. Instead of giving them as command line options to the various tools, you can create their config files and put this information there (refer to the manpages for the name and content description of the files). But because on systems the SCSI ID's don't change on a regular basis, using wrapper scripts or shell aliases will make burning comfortable, and they need service only if you change something in the hardware. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12sm18705164and.44.2009.01.24.19.17.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:17:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ajtim Civolvap To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:16:55 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:17:11 -0000 Hi! My system 7.1. I am (was) user of postmaster but the last update for Xorg it did mess. Than I use portupgrade -arR and was okay, X works okay but when I run: portupgrade -arR ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga: is marked as broken: Needs to be removed ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-via: requires pciVideoPtr typedef ** Port directory not found: x11/xorg-protos ** Port directory not found: x11/xphelloworld ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg-apps' (xorg-apps-7.3) because a requisite package 'xphelloworld-1.0.1_1' (x11/xphelloworld) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'x11-drivers/xorg-drivers' (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) because a requisite package 'xf86-video-via-0.2.2_3' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-via) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg' (xorg-7.3_2) because a requisite package 'xorg-apps-7.3' (x11/xorg-apps) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga (marked as IGNORE) - x11-drivers/xf86-video-via (marked as IGNORE) - x11/xorg-protos (port directory error) - x11/xphelloworld (port directory error) * x11/xorg-apps (xorg-apps-7.3) * x11-drivers/xorg-drivers (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) * x11/xorg (xorg-7.3_2) I understand for VGA or VIA port but how can correct the other, please? Thanks in advance. 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There was not a lot of response. One suggestion for Tcl and one for Ruby. I figured that all of the possibilities were going to be a pain to develop in their own unique way, so that was probably not the best evaluation criteria. The best choice was going to be the one that the people who were going to use it every day were the most comfortable with. So what I did was code up little samples in each of the serious contenders: Lua, Python, Ruby, and Tcl. Without telling people which language was which, I sent them around for votes. I really liked the Tcl syntax and I thought it was going to do really well, but Python came back the winner. Even so, I kept researching for farther-flung alternatives and turned up a couple of others as well, although several of the "embedded languages" are pretty stale, dead, or haven't gotten past 0.0.1-pre-alpha. Of the "haven't heard of it before" languages, only one called Pike earned serious consideration. (Technically I had heard of its predecessor LPC, but only as a result of a misspent youth. :-) ) Pike and Python went head to head and, probably since our team is heavy with C++ programmers, Pike came out on top. So, we've started doing a proof-of-concept using Pike and we'll see how it goes. So far so good, and it's actually a pretty fun language to work with. -LM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 04:05:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CC5106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E1C8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id d26so681541eyd.7 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:05:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WeJjFH3NRJdqdtTPfJZPsfTTHrwmUfDTzieCN+zQXmA=; b=nwp+tUTT+J9MFBONiWnNF0oziq+lovSGSifqTCXq+7Lk1E52CEKZm+EblKC5qrCQ7T uT+FtjidcE19zzwiBKKt2OXLBKUU3k+uvrxbD/xdcHafBeZNkAyid64404GhQ02PK3+y D2D/B5DSt5faPImx6v7uOc22cIa57ZuwKaOr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sycA949QYyLWaHWl0J0+u/eKKPxwrqhUSy3ciVR7nDn0FMhXKnJwQiT8Y60z9gpLJX 5HKjtEQ40vKgYkETVxp4hMC2PstDWh1Vbt6O23zZmKtflShW02Rha2TDbWcC3ws8uZmw R2xX1/aDQF5ywWe2tFXmObJeaT+dlIY0iYgvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.87.19 with SMTP id k19mr2031314ebb.79.1232856319065; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:05:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:05:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: EA EA To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: dlopen Undefined symbol with x11/nvidia-driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:05:20 -0000 dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so: Undefined symbol "miZeroLineScreenIndex" (EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/modules//libfw.so (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (loader failed 7) Fatal server error: Caught sigal 11. Server aborting Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 04:15:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E6B1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) Received: from mail-gw4.njit.edu (mail.njit.edu [128.235.251.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FFA8FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) Received: from dl1.njit.edu (dl1.njit.edu [128.235.112.11]) by mail-gw4.njit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0P3ZQYg016451 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dl1.njit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dl1.njit.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P3T1E8090630 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) Received: (from www@localhost) by dl1.njit.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0P3T1Zj090629; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: dl1.njit.edu: www set sender to wclark@dl1.njit.edu using -f Received: from 71.250.191.118 (SquirrelMail authenticated user wclark) by dl1.njit.edu with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <06f1971fe3096c2194373fe9f642bd91.squirrel@dl1.njit.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) From: wclark@dl1.njit.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (dl1.njit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:15:46 -0000 I just in stalled VTiger and missed the instructions on how to install it .do know or is there a command that will let me find that info wc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 04:55:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C141065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843898FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5486841rvf.43 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:55:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wy4qZAQUBSN0rGJSpAZIErf0f6hbjN8fwEk4jfgDSnk=; b=Pbe+5tGM2aYvdAEJznL/Jf7Yuo3dkHpgYonncu/m794oI9NaCtLQim5DjTfhea/hBK 6hMgMH5w4svPi49rFUnwYa/kum4OqNm8/Ei3hPI3E9YvBgXEfdB5Qwe82eqOKSqs6uYI A8EK7ugzERkjHrdm/cXn98UjY5pngA5PpQyMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZDQjaPP5KPwRHYTY9BQ8RQg/tb2poVNg0hTCIXMHw3cHh7k8jHXlfBG3tU1bAe0B/W 6pXJjK7+tBz6nWi1Vp0CcNj+l46dFMd6j4W/7e/8HmmDe6HhUh3b6UGjERKAs04DGYWy 2jKHEpQYrQNG2mQybvjnvWxhWCIkMtZIWe0uo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.128.19 with SMTP id f19mr1407005rvn.9.1232859329280; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:55:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <237c27100901241934y64525bcey93103ae207c7c88f@mail.gmail.com> References: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> <18804.55465.773953.874060@almost.alerce.com> <237c27100901241934y64525bcey93103ae207c7c88f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:29 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 73202c5a4eb2cfff Message-ID: <9a52b1190901242055r731a6622xb849bcd0b0b48782@mail.gmail.com> From: Saifi Khan To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Embedded scripting language advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:30 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, George Hartzell wrote: >> I don't have any useful advice to offer, but I would love it if you >> would summarize anything interesting that you get. >> >> I do a lot of computational biology work and am always interested in >> extension language for my computing systems. > > There was not a lot of response. One suggestion for Tcl and one for Ruby. > > I figured that all of the possibilities were going to be a pain to > develop in their own unique way, so that was probably not the best > evaluation criteria. The best choice was going to be the one that the > people who were going to use it every day were the most comfortable > with. > > So what I did was code up little samples in each of the serious > contenders: Lua, Python, Ruby, and Tcl. Without telling people which > language was which, I sent them around for votes. I really liked the > Tcl syntax and I thought it was going to do really well, but Python > came back the winner. > > Even so, I kept researching for farther-flung alternatives and turned > up a couple of others as well, although several of the "embedded > languages" are pretty stale, dead, or haven't gotten past > 0.0.1-pre-alpha. Of the "haven't heard of it before" languages, only > one called Pike earned serious consideration. (Technically I had > heard of its predecessor LPC, but only as a result of a misspent > youth. :-) ) > > Pike and Python went head to head and, probably since our team is > heavy with C++ programmers, Pike came out on top. > > So, we've started doing a proof-of-concept using Pike and we'll see > how it goes. So far so good, and it's actually a pretty fun language > to work with. > > -LM Are you saying the choice is made on the basis of 'likeability' and not 'technical merit' ? -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 05:14:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9839106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-71-117-207-61.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.117.207.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF67D8FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 364CCB64F; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id RAA07150; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:06:50 GMT Message-Id: <200901241706.RAA07150@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:17:17 GMT." <497AEAAD.6020701@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:06:50 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:34 -0000 > > AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory > > > > My console says: > > > > login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > > > pstat -sk > > Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity > > /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% > > > > Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related > > complaints in dmesg. > > > > Is this something to worry about? > > Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing so. > > Kris Whoops, I forgot to change the subject line after adding the k option to pstat. Without the k it said 0 used. And this morning it occurs to me that even if swap used was zero, it could have been trying to *start* using swap. Anyway... given this timeout explaination, I'm guessing that page/swap has to compete with user processes for disk i/o, and thus probably suffers from the same lack of fair i/o scheduling that user processes suffer from. E.g. one process doing disk i/o can lock out another process for at least several minutes, probably indefinitely. :-( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 05:14:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00250106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-71-117-207-61.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.117.207.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF73B8FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 0633BB650; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id WAA12837; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:48:39 GMT Message-Id: <200901242248.WAA12837@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:28:07 MST." <497B87E7.6020601@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:48:39 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:34 -0000 > >> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory > >> > >> My console says: > >> > >> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, > >> size: 4096 > >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > >> > >> pstat -sk > >> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity > >> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% > >> > >> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related > >> complaints in dmesg. > >> > >> Is this something to worry about? > > > > Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing > > so. > isn't swapspace supposed to be on a 'b' partition? Are you using swap > on a slice 10? how is that possible when the i386/amd64 BIOS can't see > more than 4 primary partitions? > > Kris, would you mind giving input to this? How can there be a s10, and > how can you add swapspace to a device that isn't a partition 'b' nor a > file backed swapspace? Those were the only two ways I thought was > supported for swap. > > Dieter, does my questions above sound to be a correct interpretation of > your disk setup? Traditionally swap used the b partition. But then traditionally, there weren't MBR style partitions, called "slices" in FreeBSD-land. I suspect that the computers Unix grew up on (PDP-7, PDP-11, VAX) had to boot from the beginning of the disk, so the a partition went there. The Alpha continues in this DEC tradition. I was about to say that swap went next for speed, since the machines back then never had enough main memory, but those old disks didn't have variable number of sectors on inner vs outer tracks, so the speed would have been the same across the platter. So I'm not sure why swap was next. This machine has 2 GiB of main memory and almost never uses the swap partition, so I put swap at the slow end of the drive. Yes I have swap on slice 10. I use NetBSD's fdisk, as it handles more than 4 slices nicely, unlike FreeBSD's fdisk. As far as I know, the BIOS firmware doesn't need to know about swap. I think the BIOS firmware just loads and runs the MBR, which in turn loads and runs the bootstrap in the selected slice (or loads and runs the MBR in a different disk if you want). I suppose I could put a BSD disklabel on slice 10 and set it up with the whole slice as the b partition. But as far as I can tell FreeBSD is happy with /dev/ad6s10. As I wrote in my previous message I suspect that the pager/swaper is competing for disk i/o. I forgot to ask if there is some sysctl or other knob to lengthen the timeout. The real fix is to improve the i/o fairness, but I've been asking about this for 2-3 years and not getting anywhere. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 05:16:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1435510656D8 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF2F8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P5GbHF022685; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:37 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Sebastian Mellmann In-Reply-To: <20090122120027.4E186106570D@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090125153358.X90458@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090122120027.4E186106570D@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:16:41 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:10:09 +0100 (CET) Sebastian Mellmann wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 with IPFW DUMMYNET enabled. > > I've got a problem with creating a ruleset which allows me to limit the > overall bandwidth of a link and afterwards pass the packets to another > pipe for processing. > > So far I've got those rules: > > in_if="em0" > out_if="em1" > management_if="em2" > in_ip="100.100.100.1" > out_ip="200.200.200.1" > management_ip="172.16.0.201" > client1_subnet="192.168.5.0/26" > client2_subnet="192.168.6.0/26" > server_subnet="192.168.7.0/24" > > download_bandwidth="6144Kbit/s" > upload_bandwidth="1024Kbit/s" > delay="0" > queue_size="10" 10 slots ie packets is likely too small a queue size at these rates. You want to check the dropped packet stats from 'ipfw pipe show' re that; see the section in ipfw(8) about calculating sizes / delays. On the other hand, depending on how many hosts you're running individual queues for (mask 0xffffffff), you may need to trade with memory used .. > cmd="ipfw" > > $cmd add 10 allow all from any to any via lo0 > > $cmd pipe 100 config mask src-ip 0xffffffff bw $upload_bandwidth queue $queue_size delay $delay > $cmd pipe 200 config mask dst-ip 0xffffffff bw $download_bandwidth queue $queue_size > > $cmd add pipe 100 all from $client1_subnet to $server_subnet in via $in_if > $cmd add pipe 200 all from $server_subnet to $client1_subnet out via $in_if > > $cmd add pipe 100 all from $client2_subnet to $server_subnet in via $in_if > $cmd add pipe 200 all from $server_subnet to $client2_subnet out via $in_if I suggest using 'in recv' and 'out xmit' rather than via for these, for the sake of clarity. 'in recv' and 'in via' come to the same thing, as only the receive interface is known on inbound packets, but 'out via' applies to packets that were *received* on the specified interface as well as those going out on that interface after routing, which can lead to surprising results sometimes, and being more specific never hurts .. > $cmd add 10000 allow all from any to any via $management_if > $cmd add 20000 allow all from any to any via $in_if > $cmd add 30000 allow all from any to any via $out_if > > --- > > What I want to add now, is the possibility to limit the bandwidth of the > whole link, e.g. 100Mbit/s. > > I've tried to add a pipe: > > $cmd pipe 50 config bw 100Mbit/s queue $queue_size > $cmd add pipe 50 all from any to any via $in_if > > But when I have a look at the pipes with 'ipfw show' I can only see > packets go through the pipe 50 and nothing goes through the other pipes > (which makes sense actually since IPFW work that way?). IPFW works that way if you (likely) have net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 .. so that packets exiting from pipes aren't seen by the firewall again. If you set one_pass=0, packets are reinjected into the firewall at the rule following the pipe (or queue) action, which is what you want to do here. And you'll surely need a much larger queue for this pipe, at 100Mbit/s. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 06:21:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D948C1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC778FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl205-109.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.18.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n0P6LUHk009084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:36 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P6LUA0056227; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0P6LTkv056226; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Polytropon References: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:11 +0100") Message-ID: <874ozndhxy.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: n0P6LUHk009084 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.971, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.43, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Comfortable dd bs= parameters for different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:21:53 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:11 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to ask which sizes are comfortable to use for reading > from different media using the dd utility. As far as I know, > these are good values: > > Format Device (example) bs= > ------------- --------------------- ---- > Data CD /dev/acd0 2048 > Music CD /dev/acd0t01 2352 > DVD /dev/acd0 2048 (?) > Hard disk /dev/ad0s1g 1m (?) AFAICT these are fine. > What about copying partition-wise from a hard disk to a dd file? > Which bs= parameter would be encouraged to use? Presumably the destination file will also be on hard disk (or USB flash, or SSD). It may be ok to use 1m then :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 07:23:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CB5106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1348FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LQzLL-0004sL-DF; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:23:44 +1100 From: Warren Liddell Organization: Blackthorn PTY LTD To: Polytropon Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:35 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) References: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251723.35817.shinjii@maydias.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:23:46 -0000 > % camcontrol devlist Typed this but no output what so ever, which presumably isnt a good thing. > > and adjust the dev= parameter accordingly. > > For a DVD, try > > % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=neroultraV7.iso enterprise# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=neroultraV7.iso :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device Something aint right obviously. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 07:37:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F332106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFA18FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0P7bDVm041320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:37:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0P7bD4i041305; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:37:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA14659; Sat, 24 Jan 09 23:26:07 PST Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:27:49 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <497c1475.t8s7v36OXh6ZhsFH%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Comfortable dd bs= parameters for different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:37:41 -0000 > I'd like to ask which sizes are comfortable to use for reading > from different media using the dd utility ... In case anyone still cares, I have long used bs=120b for floppy disks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:29:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FCC1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57648FC1D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P8SHDn099325; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:28:28 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0P8SHDn099325 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1232872108; bh=ISLAUVKMNcdGMtFzlfZo3zRkFKFYgA9B+mXuVcrvxl4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<497C2299.4000905@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2025=20Jan=202009=2008:28:09=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090111)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20EA=20EA=20|CC:=20questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20X=20panics=20on=20xorg=207.4|Refe rences:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20mult ipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"appli cation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig8469D B073E76E41A9624C0DF"; b=Z22ICkaHHf+Vzv41wAvsvevXwdQNSQhVLG5kBBsJhH3urAtRE1sMFzp++hxglves1 kAo5ccnC4iIRSHv3vppWPb65d+67haceWTCJxqex6VCCZsitTqAWxU02F6yB4dcyJ9 bCACiSkn+UZwOzd/EIwdqEFIpg4WcXzo+l64yRR0= Message-ID: <497C2299.4000905@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:28:09 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: EA EA References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:28:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8900/Sun Jan 25 02:40:27 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X panics on xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EA EA wrote: > I just upgraded X and when I started X with a fresh config. > When X starts I see the normal no-wm-yet screen with an unmovable mouse= =2E > When I press ctrl+alt+spc I hear 3 beeps followed by a black screen. > I tried x11/nvidia-driver and x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. >=20 > What should I be trying to fix it? What information do you (I?) need t= o > debug? Please read the first 20090123 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkl8IqEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwEdwCdHcJCMA08eyLlzr8cS3uF84aK P7wAnjiCcdzTCg974wpgoacf/MYqnM5a =aLhK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:30:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E6010656F3 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CCA8FC1A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45B916C0028; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P8U8dv007936; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Liddell Message-Id: <20090125093008.f1c4c707.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200901251723.35817.shinjii@maydias.com> References: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> <200901251723.35817.shinjii@maydias.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:17 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:35 +1000, Warren Liddell wrote: > > % camcontrol devlist > > Typed this but no output what so ever, which presumably isnt a good thing. If you have ATAPI devices, you need to have the ATAPICAM facility loaded, either by # kldload /boot/kernel/atapicam.ko or by compiling it into your kernel. If you don't have the proper permissions, access to ATAPICAM won't work. Access to cd, pass and xpt is needed (rules to be setup in /etc/devfs.conf), or simply call the command as root or via sudo. > enterprise# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=neroultraV7.iso > :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > Something aint right obviously. Obviously. You need to specify an ATAPICAM device, /dev/cd0 for example. If you want to use /dev/dvd like in the example on growisofs's manpage, you need to change the symlink in /etc/devfs.conf: link cd0 dvd The symlink usually points to acd0 which isn't ATAPICAM compatible. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:31:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D79B106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39E38FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P8Ux2M001879; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:59 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0P8Ux2M001879 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1232872259; bh=RpQNcN7T+xobs/SxOs2JD1JA5+hVpNjiYpuhWWjSIhY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<497C2343.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2025=20Jan=202009=2008:30:59=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090111)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20EA=20EA=20|CC:=20questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20X=20panics=20on=20xorg=207.4|Refe rences:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20mult ipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"appli cation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigE5151 D7352C67218A6576EC5"; b=TuQZ4nCBjdwDFZ95bg9MIrGFAjcRJIr127YMpIGY473QzcYXB4R8nNiG1D4nAYdX0 mdIZMNG7gVCiPsOpm09p6km0Bo4UAkYt7rgzeG9tgvAKms5VDRi8ywZTX0zm/X8htE mrZA/v5vRm2eRsKFVd63nBvrH6UEfnA52I+3qCa8= Message-ID: <497C2343.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:59 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: EA EA References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X panics on xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:31:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EA EA wrote: > I just upgraded X and when I started X with a fresh config. > When X starts I see the normal no-wm-yet screen with an unmovable mouse= =2E > When I press ctrl+alt+spc I hear 3 beeps followed by a black screen. > I tried x11/nvidia-driver and x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. >=20 > What should I be trying to fix it? What information do you (I?) need t= o > debug? Please read the first 20090123 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkl8I0MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxqBQCcDZ6U+rXX2FzkR+SNAPSshKdk enEAoI9QfrQaPYFiXK7j/2iWVIUVuVkA =XvIn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:49:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B850106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D028FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P8musp060135; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:48:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0P8musp060135 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1232873337; bh=WrnTfjtP9tAdBwLYKHipyibUahoy0Tzdavc1668KJus=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<497C2770.9020600@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2025=20Jan=202009=2008:48:48=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090111)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Ajtim=20Civolvap=20|CC:=20freeb sd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20portupgrade|References:= 20<200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<2009012421 16.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Ty pe:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protoco l=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"----------- -enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F"; b=VcVjFMO1oEFBA+A1QK9/n6ivau0qsrFb8QIRHoMotGxNbDAJgO7gASG5d5896/GaU NG0VbRXiXyFAXOFbc+MX9p/971dUCD29S5LupN8yrOopOBizMMgz5GY0uRwLmqBBuO 8spd+lgtshyuuQXhaCUq2znkGxFmyV/tgeiWnhAY= Message-ID: <497C2770.9020600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:48:48 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ajtim Civolvap References: <200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:48:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:49:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ajtim Civolvap wrote: > Hi! >=20 > My system 7.1. > I am (was) user of postmaster but the last update for Xorg it did mess.= Than I=20 > use portupgrade -arR and was okay, X works okay but when I run: >=20 > portupgrade -arR > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga: > is marked as broken: Needs to be removed > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-via: > requires pciVideoPtr typedef > ** Port directory not found: x11/xorg-protos > ** Port directory not found: x11/xphelloworld > ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg-apps' (xorg-apps-7.3) because a requisite=20 > package 'xphelloworld-1.0.1_1' (x11/xphelloworld) failed (specify -k to= =20 > force) > ---> Skipping 'x11-drivers/xorg-drivers' (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) because = a=20 > requisite package 'xf86-video-via-0.2.2_3' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-via)= =20 > failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg' (xorg-7.3_2) because a requisite=20 > package 'xorg-apps-7.3' (x11/xorg-apps) failed (specify -k to force) > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga (marked as IGNORE) > - x11-drivers/xf86-video-via (marked as IGNORE) > - x11/xorg-protos (port directory error) > - x11/xphelloworld (port directory error) > * x11/xorg-apps (xorg-apps-7.3) > * x11-drivers/xorg-drivers (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) > * x11/xorg (xorg-7.3_2) >=20 > I understand for VGA or VIA port but how can correct the other, please?= If you don't need vga or via drivers, do this: # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers # make config (select keyboard, mouse and *only* what video drivers you need on your= H/W) Then delete the offending driver packages: pkg_delete -f xf86-video-via-\* xf86-video-vga-\* Note: you may well have several other extraneous video driver packages installed. They can be deleted in the same way. If you do need one of those drivers, then don't upgrade your X windows ju= st yet. There will be more updates coming out over time, no doubt. You cou= ld ask on the freebsd-x11@... list about what is happening in that regard. x11/xorg-protos and x11/xphelloworld have been removed -- just delete what you have installed: # pkg_delete -f xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 xorg-protos-\* Now fix up the dependency linkages in your package database: # pkgdb -F and then proceed with the upgrade as before: # portupgrade -a Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkl8J3gACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxAjgCePr0NPTkXUFYGILznqfu+YqmV 3usAn13aRAZhlSfkyqWe8vIdVs8LeDEN =6VO0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:54:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F837106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1713E8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LR0lB-0005c4-37 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:54:31 +1100 From: Warren Liddell Organization: Blackthorn PTY LTD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:54:22 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> Subject: dummies version of dummies to setup printers in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:54:33 -0000 i have a cannon pixma ip1000 and i have tried various ways to set it up so i can print using methods found through google, but so far nothing has had success, so id like to know if there is an idiots guide to the dummies version of trying to setup a printer to work cause im in desperate need of step by step instructions to get it goin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:03:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4D31065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE708FC1C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P93GjX043753; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:03:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0P93ETT043750; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:03:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:03:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090125100303.Q43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:03:48 -0000 > > I think the ISO-9660 + RockRidge is the most comfortable way for > what you intend - allthough the tar method (or even the UFS method) > won't be any problem here. But as I said, maximum compatibility is > always welcome for backups. well not always. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:05:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745821065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3DB8FC24 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P95Ek6043770; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:05:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0P95Cxl043767; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:05:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:05:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> Message-ID: <20090125100344.V43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:45 -0000 > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm if it ISO9660 filesystem image. you may check it before writing this way mdconfig -a -o readonly -t vnode -f cdr.iso mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt then after checking umount /mnt mdconfig -d -u 0 (assumed you don't use other md devices that moment, if so, device number will not be md0) > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. cdrtools for CD dvd+rw-tools for DVD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:07:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010881065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469138FC1F for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P96mDH043785; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0P96mp3043782; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090125100638.W43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, Gary Kline , perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:18 -0000 > > I know this is *very* lazy stuff, but it works, and I never change > a running system. :-) which is always a good thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:11:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18D4106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC0E8FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2197795ywe.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=R/zTYhn9aeLFcyfMV+YNr8MC9jBe04q+lt4D0aGnY7M=; b=gjm4K+xjjIaqIdd4sMKve0GVzWXaQ5BubVY7/4kbw9dKZTfbqo06d8J38QM7PpPuF3 I8RAFZQjgWYHU7/0bgtZtWOK2JxjgRsx98vhV6L5TU8JuUWoIk9Ml5zS/ddYeLeYwVx0 oTlHge3RDhWQQzCOQgaoCJ31MARRZ2tJoJzs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MouG6TlBSjvrLW3NSVgYa4eKpHuYNz0iWZFFS52CGiSN6O2ecE3QvHcOV9H2ihghnm f8f4Sed0DeKk1rvlee5Gg3qUPqRfIZVrrhglJo7NKAw+5bgEWbw2hhBU+dWVD009lY4G 9dzBnbk7pZi+F5DOLMDWlfQc1q4y7UOyIlPNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.17.11 with SMTP id q11mr625840iba.8.1232874685901; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> References: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: Warren Liddell , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: dummies version of dummies to setup printers in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:11:27 -0000 This may or may not be suitable for your situation but this is how I generally set printers up: 1. Install print/cups (yes the full wrapper port) 2. Edit your /etc/make.conf by adding a line that says no LPR 3. Add CUPS_ENABLE="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf 4. Manually start cups (run "cupsd" as root) 5. Point your web browser to http://localhost:631 6. Click on adminstration-->Add Printer 7. Enter what ever you want on the first screen 8. (This step will vary based on how your printer is connected... in this case I assume it is networked like mine is) if your printer is a standard network printer CUPS should find it automatically if it doesn't otherwise socket://[IP] where IP is the IP of the printer (you will have to search the web perhaps for non-network printers) 9. Enter the type of printer it is off the menu (cannon is not limited so you will need to search for the right PPD file) 10. Click on add-printer 11. The user name and password is the user name and password for any account on the machine (I have never tested anything but root or my personal account) 12. Print a test page if everything has gone well proceed if not try to figure out what you missed 13. Click on printers and set the new printer to be your default printer 14. Since by default the base system installs lpd when it is installed you need to deinstall it the easiest way to do this as root do: rm /usr/bin/lp* /usr/sbin/lp* 15. If everything has gone well up to now try to print from the command line with something like "lpr /etc/passwd" 16. If step 15 worked reboot and try to print again 17. (only if you have a desktop manager or other GUI stuff installed) Make sure that all your commonly used GUI applications can print 18. Your done (well almost) 19. (optional) if you do a lot of command line printing you may want to install a pritty print program like print/enscript-letter and alias it to lpr in your .cshrc or the equiv 20. Now your done On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Warren Liddell wrote: > i have a cannon pixma ip1000 and i have tried various ways to set it up so i > can print using methods found through google, but so far nothing has had > success, so id like to know if there is an idiots guide to the dummies version > of trying to setup a printer to work cause im in desperate need of step by > step instructions to get it goin. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:19:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915C21065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB18F8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so352352ewy.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ypfZP2Xh8So+c5XFAOnl2yLpvmM6swm9Y3fPhcenG9w=; b=jO3EtvNFrB35OCs4MWrYVCb9xUtgGafrk/yBNu0De9afpqJQ8lgm+l4Fy9VAPdWaLB jjzRJX6LnvpZfMvIDiIhGpYWenstMR0/XQmjZz8ukGXTjHkpgcRcNo9hv6UC5UgfD9yX duNInA74vCh3IR3MHq9S+NCtKslr1FfKd9HDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uX2wP+R2k8YOVNs+A1YTvPLc/1r8ONYyEqmO0mOHGz8byH8L684GaWtIdarYm/qDyE usktzqjionDQ20iIZ/vkeY6TbpfciyFiyu1EiTe4Do5aNU43/mDhkV0gmgMsfnQBhpwv Kav97mh8qC7sW1fMDZheXPwtPbtWaw/Wpldrw= Received: by 10.210.69.6 with SMTP id r6mr1485518eba.134.1232875174387; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-421877.home.otenet.gr [79.131.199.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3649647eyg.52.2009.01.25.01.19.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497C2EA4.2060701@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:19:32 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Liddell References: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> In-Reply-To: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummies version of dummies to setup printers in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:19:36 -0000 Warren Liddell wrote: > i have a cannon pixma ip1000 and i have tried various ways to set it up so i > can print using methods found through google, but so far nothing has had > success, so id like to know if there is an idiots guide to the dummies version > of trying to setup a printer to work cause im in desperate need of step by > step instructions to get it goin. > AFAIR, this is one of the difficult to get working models in FreeBSD (or linux for that matter). CUPS does not support it directly (it is a 'winprinter'). Canon has a linux driver here: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0022414.asp?model= and this can probably be adapted (if if contains a PPD for CUPS) but this may not be the easiest task. Other than that, I always found the following wiki entry in desktopbsd.net easy to follow for a successful CUPS setup: http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:29:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1266C1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7768FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5539473rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Nv9YjuEEYExOdFWyv/q409vp3nimpqfJIBF+nidbJGQ=; b=dSXVFmf5uNotg2Vth8UOxtahrIwy/UgL6v+lKhzx2Qwmw1YKGVAlLFKWVIfxEdTQfg DMeyt6X5l6sIAY1WaCZxwlG9G5FIBGwKMfvY75mQNXKgPY62zACtK9SwzwxS1OvkTG/c 19TyZs1qzzFCy2lMByr1IUxuBf+kfN0NhNa/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T9POr+a/cvHODrf1PIrFm9yOt6zh4X3B6fwwhq1ft3jvGJ79T2hyEWcnXoyLjUoIf5 V/pX8KlBGa8Z1+4up6b7TksR6AnZ2OnDpkwINEVzTSqCHFz4zEfaSgd3R+uZKBpC4SnB Bzy/xj3Dtxj79xno079mUWvs7LW8CGW1un3Qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr1880069rve.38.1232875785685; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:45 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6e4086830bdd6c5d Message-ID: <9a52b1190901250129j55affbedv87374b0a91e55539@mail.gmail.com> From: Saifi Khan To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pine4.64 installation on FreeBSD 7.1 (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:46 -0000 Hi: [note: i'm aware about Alpine in ports and am keen to install and use only Pine]. i'm trying to build Pine 4.64 from the sources downloaded from Univ of Wash site. For SSL support, i have installed OpenSSL 0.9.8j from ports. Here is the standard command run at the top of the pine source tree. ./build 'SSLCERTS=/etc/ssl' \ 'SSLINCLUDE=/usr/local/include/openssl' \ 'SSLLIB=/usr/local/lib' \ bsf The first error reported right in the beginning is "File /etc/ssl/factory.pem is missing This might indicate that CA certs did not get properly installed. If you get certificate validation failures in Pine, this might be the reason for them." On reviewing the OpenSSL code base, there is no factory.pem or a bunch of CA certs. Two questions: 1. what is the purpose of factory.pem ? 2. where do i get the bunch of CA certs ? Thanks in advance for helping me out, as i try to learn more about FreeBSD approach of doing the things. i've been a Gentoo user mostly. -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:30:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAD2106567C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dhcp-172-28-77-38.eur.corp.google.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DB78FC0A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <497C312E.6050802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:22 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dieter References: <200901241706.RAA07150@sopwith.solgatos.com> In-Reply-To: <200901241706.RAA07150@sopwith.solgatos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:24 -0000 Dieter wrote: >>> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory >>> >>> My console says: >>> >>> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> >>> pstat -sk >>> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity >>> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% >>> >>> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related >>> complaints in dmesg. >>> >>> Is this something to worry about? >> Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing so. >> >> Kris > > Whoops, I forgot to change the subject line after adding the k option > to pstat. Without the k it said 0 used. And this morning it occurs to > me that even if swap used was zero, it could have been trying to *start* > using swap. > > Anyway... given this timeout explaination, I'm guessing that page/swap > has to compete with user processes for disk i/o, and thus probably > suffers from the same lack of fair i/o scheduling that user processes > suffer from. E.g. one process doing disk i/o can lock out another > process for at least several minutes, probably indefinitely. :-( There is a timeout of (from memory) 60 seconds. I've not seen this timeout exceeded on properly functioning disk hardware (even heavily loaded), only on broken hardware/controllers, or on I/O devices that are intrinsically slow for some reason (USB stick, or swapping to a file). Unless you're doing something truly unspeakable to that disk's load, I'd look at the hardware. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:41:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AD0106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay01.edpnet.net (lrelay01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9E28FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.161.65.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.161.65]) by lrelay01.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0P9fDcO018734 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:41:15 +0100 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:41:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.3 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.3; i386; ; ) X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[< =?utf-8?q?d=0A=09P0?="xTw:F|)_r*WC\f8lz)g=a; 93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd; 6^Y:=*>@U; _\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200901251041.12678.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/8900/Sun Jan 25 03:40:27 2009 on lrelay01.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on lrelay01.edpnet.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Starting privoxy+ipv6 at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:18 -0000 Hi List, I installed www/privoxy+ipv6, the patched privoxy for ipv6. It installs fine but I have to start it everytime manually at boot. I added this to /etc/rc.conf : privoxy_enable="YES" privoxy_flags="/usr/local/etc/privoxy/config" Since there is no startup script provided, I copied the one (privoxy.in) from www/privoxy/files to my /usr/local/etc/rc.d : root@bsdaddict# ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/privoxy* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1497 20 jan 21:41 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/privoxy root@bsdaddict# I tried renaming it to "privoxy.sh" and "privoxy" (without any extension) but nothing seems to work. All I get is this error message in dmesg : root@bsdaddict# dmesg -a | grep privoxy /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run %%PREFIX%%/sbin/privoxy root@bsdaddict# Starting privoxy manually is no problem, everything works as it should. So how do I launch privoxy at boot ? Thanks for any help. Beni Brinckman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:25:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF5C106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887218FC1E for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9055A8B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:15:26 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:25:17 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: jail devfs openpty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:25:20 -0000 Hello, I am doing the portupgrade inside my jail. I see that script(1) have no permission on openpty. I deleted all the devfs rules on tha jail's /dev both by hand and by deleting the ruleset string in master's rc.conf. So i stopped jail and mounted devfs by hand. Started jail. It appears to work, the portupgrade. I suppose that if mounted with /etc/rc.d/jail the devfs has some tweak that makes it different from mounted by hand. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:35:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F31106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6048FC23 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693F15A8B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:25:25 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:35:16 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090125113516.GB33731@screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: jail init, but another question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:35:17 -0000 Hello, I always try to set up the devfs ruleset in rc.conf. So my question is about this in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: === #jail_example_devfs_ruleset="ruleset_name" # devfs ruleset to apply to jail === It appears not to work in /etc/rc.conf without this rc.subr patch: === $ diff -u /etc/rc.subr /usr/src/etc/rc.subr --- /etc/rc.subr 2008-07-20 19:26:20.000000000 +0500 +++ /usr/src/etc/rc.subr 2008-05-12 12:29:03.000000000 +0500 @@ -1242,7 +1242,7 @@ devfs_set_ruleset() { local devdir rs _me - [ -n "$1" ] && eval rs=\$1 || rs= + [ -n "$1" ] && eval rs=\$$1 || rs= [ -n "$2" ] && devdir="-m "$2"" || devdir= _me="devfs_set_ruleset" === And, by far the "ruleset_name" does not work in favour of ruleset number. But I remember it did work on freebsd-5.4. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 12:01:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D89310656C9 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1BB8FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR3N5-000Iwy-5q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:41:47 +0000 Received: from [83.167.118.179] (helo=[192.168.0.10]) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR3N4-000KaR-5S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:41:46 +0000 Message-ID: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:40 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:02:00 -0000 Hello all. I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 12:44:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B96106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE0C8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PBkB9V012247; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:46:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:46:10 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200901251146.n0PBkAQf012246@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:22 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:48:39 +0000 Dieter wrote: >> >> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory >> >> >> >> My console says: >> >> >> >> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, >> >> size: 4096 >> >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >> >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >> >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >> >> >> >> pstat -sk >> >> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity >> >> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% >> >> >> >> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related >> >> complaints in dmesg. >> >> >> >> Is this something to worry about? >> > >> > Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing >> > so. > >> isn't swapspace supposed to be on a 'b' partition? Are you using swap >> on a slice 10? how is that possible when the i386/amd64 BIOS can't see >> more than 4 primary partitions? >> >> Kris, would you mind giving input to this? How can there be a s10, and >> how can you add swapspace to a device that isn't a partition 'b' nor a >> file backed swapspace? Those were the only two ways I thought was >> supported for swap. >> >> Dieter, does my questions above sound to be a correct interpretation of >> your disk setup? > >Traditionally swap used the b partition. But then traditionally, there Even then, however, the swapdev line in the kernel config file made it possible to change it and to add additional partitions of equal size on other drives. >weren't MBR style partitions, called "slices" in FreeBSD-land. > >I suspect that the computers Unix grew up on (PDP-7, PDP-11, VAX) had >to boot from the beginning of the disk, so the a partition went there. >The Alpha continues in this DEC tradition. I was about to say that >swap went next for speed, since the machines back then never had enough >main memory, but those old disks didn't have variable number of sectors >on inner vs outer tracks, so the speed would have been the same across >the platter. So I'm not sure why swap was next. Speed was indeed the reason. Swapping in UNIX dates further back than virtual memory support. Swapping made it possible to have more process memory allocated than was available in real memory, but it was necessary to swap out an entire process to swap in a process whose memory was located at the same addresses as the one forced out. That didn't necessarily mean writing all of the first process's memory out, just enough to make room for the one coming in. The downside, of course, was that anything *not* written to the swap area was vulnerable to damage by other processes unless some sort of storage protection mechanism was available in the hardware a la System/360 storage protection. Of course, the same risk applied to any other processes in memory (i.e., not swapped out already) at the time, too. Swap in 3BSD (the first VM UNIX system) and 4BSD was active for another purpose, too. Large memory moves/copies on those old machines could actually be *slower* than writing to a disk and then reading the data back in at the target memory location. (Yes, speechless horror is the correct reaction here.:-) /usr was typically placed right after the swap area (i.e., partition d). The idea was that / and /usr would be the most heavily accessed file systems, so it made sense to have them surrounding the swap area to minimize head movement distances and delays. On systems with more than one disk drive that did a lot of compiling, sorting, editing, or anything else with much activity in /tmp, it was especially helpful to move /tmp to a separate drive from / and /usr. The manual used to give suggested partition configurations for two- and three-drive systems for optimum speed. > >This machine has 2 GiB of main memory and almost never uses the swap >partition, so I put swap at the slow end of the drive. Yes I have >swap on slice 10. I use NetBSD's fdisk, as it handles more than >4 slices nicely, unlike FreeBSD's fdisk. As far as I know, the BIOS So NetBSD's fdisk understands logical partitions in an extended partition? Cool. I wish we had it in FreeBSD. It's really a pain to have to shut FreeBSD down and boot a standalone program to change the layout of a disk that has an EP. :-( At least the FreeBSD kernel has no problem understanding a disk like that. >firmware doesn't need to know about swap. I think the BIOS firmware >just loads and runs the MBR, which in turn loads and runs the bootstrap >in the selected slice (or loads and runs the MBR in a different disk if >you want). > >I suppose I could put a BSD disklabel on slice 10 and set it up >with the whole slice as the b partition. But as far as I can tell >FreeBSD is happy with /dev/ad6s10. As I wrote in my previous It should be. >message I suspect that the pager/swaper is competing for disk i/o. >I forgot to ask if there is some sysctl or other knob to lengthen >the timeout. The real fix is to improve the i/o fairness, but I've >been asking about this for 2-3 years and not getting anywhere. > BSD UNIX introduced the disksort() routine into its kernel ages ago. I know it was in 4.2BSD, but it may well have been there long before then. disksort() was added to satisfy a maximum number of disk I/O requests with a minimum of head movement and delay. Basically, it sorts new requests into queues for each drive such that the arm moves from request to request in one direction through the disk, and then the next queue started is sorted into the opposite sequence for the arm to move in the opposite direction. The result is that the arm moves back and forth from the start to the end of the disk and then back again, reading and writing as it goes, thus minimizing the distance traveled for each request handled. In FreeBSD, I think there is also some sort of change to the algorithm that tends to subprioritize or subdivide requests according to the amount of data to be read/written in each request, but I don't know any of its details. In general, disksort() gives pretty good performance. I doubt that the current algorithm is the source of your problems, but if it is, then perhaps moving swap to sit between the two most active file systems on that drive could help. You may wish to look carefully at the disk I/O system in FreeBSD to see whether your idea of "fairness" could be implemented without running afoul of the existing code structure and also to get an idea as to whether what you want done would really be likely to yield any performance improvement. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:42:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F51106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDBD8FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDfl6F044202 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDflD2044199 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Message-ID: <20090125144031.X44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:03 -0000 > > I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. > As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. no. just make PXE able to boot ANY FreeBSD install (single user is enough, or boot from CD/DVD) and then copy all files from one host to another. then just change configs (like hostname and IP in your rc.conf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:42:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF331065675 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CBF8FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDgFAU044209 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:42:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDgFUj044206 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:42:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:42:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Message-ID: <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:28 -0000 > Hello all. > > I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. > As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. forgot - you have to of course make disklabel, newfs and make disk bootable (bsdlabel -B disk) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:43:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6109310656BC for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A021D8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDhLt7044221; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:43:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDhLmo044218; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:43:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:43:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: beni In-Reply-To: <200901251041.12678.beni@brinckman.info> Message-ID: <20090125144245.M44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200901251041.12678.beni@brinckman.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting privoxy+ipv6 at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:43:37 -0000 > > I tried renaming it to "privoxy.sh" and "privoxy" (without any extension) but > nothing seems to work. All I get is this error message in dmesg : > root@bsdaddict# dmesg -a | grep privoxy > /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run %%PREFIX%%/sbin/privoxy > root@bsdaddict# > please do sent-pr for ports. it's bug in port system IMHO, %%PREFIX%% wasn't replaced at build time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:50:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1217C106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CFC8FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR5NZ-000NcU-Eu; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:25 +0000 Received: from [83.167.118.179] (helo=[192.168.0.10]) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR5NX-0004mN-V5; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:24 +0000 Message-ID: <497C6E17.9050801@fxclub.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:50:15 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:31 -0000 Wojciech Puchar пишет: >> Hello all. >> >> I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. >> As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. > > forgot - you have to of course make disklabel, newfs and make disk > bootable (bsdlabel -B disk) > Well - and if need just to power on server and say it to boot at PXE and go away for 30 min. And then I came back - I have a typical preconfigured server. I need full automatisation. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:51:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4334A106570D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D0F8FC1A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so8529964qyk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:51:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hhH1vkNGBgEe7kazLa/CxVEpKHq/qIFYBtGSJ95yZ/A=; b=FSf2cL9V4ZvIQHAm/R+14pd4PribW6qD95UE4hCV78KIKb53LCf0Hbg+15cKIM5Cxa oul8e/kQ61z3LYlVYN5pJvexuCcV7DE2juy7A2XSwQY12lvg5e+YBdMCq6PYmyN/lK7w rn8ejbPdHwmFzhwFmiTJa8vkxX14WFLQVTwpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=USK7kmkaro+h4XT5VRz7NHYENrMeHHzK54faYiISmnfgazrbNg00fJEOGJkZzOONHG E3OfmJKCqWbOw9u15M1+okQm2eiyMP8HeqO6UB3fbFo1GEDXuHkR7jI1FANwLt+ZOdZT lIuflkVROArTL+Wf53Kgu1cL3iHjUJNeIAg+g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.10.3 with SMTP id 3mr1295025qaj.6.1232891485328; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:51:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: EA EA To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Starting X with xf86-video-vesa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:51:26 -0000 In my third attempt to get any form of a working X server I tried the xf86-video-vesa driver. (x11/nvidia-driver fails, x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv fails) I get the following error message: failed to set mtrr: Invalid argument In Xorg.log I have the following line at the end" (==) VESA(0): Write combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:54:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F4D106568A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FDF8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDrroP044259; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDrpoW044256; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:54:23 -0000 > > Without wanting to start an endless discussion, I may say that I've > recognized the tendency to slow down programs in UNIX world such as > it is always described in "Windows" land: As soon as you get a new > OS or new programs, everything runs slower than before. In order to > keep the "overall usage speed", you need to have more hardware power. fortunately it's only tendency to "trendy" software like KDE. not for all unix software. and definitely NOT for FreeBSD OS inself, that gets same or faster every release on THE SAME machine! it's not unix problem. it's problem of people that like to have their unix be "like windows" so it is :) for me it's not a problem at all! > > I'm running a P4 2GHz for more than 4 years now happily (I think), > but when I needed to build a new software installation due to a > data fallout in July 2008, I found everything running slower. what exactly software you rebuild and found slower (except KDE/Gnome bloatware) ? > THIS TO ALL FreeBSD DEVELOPERS: NOT YOUR FAULT! Every release of > FreeBSD brought a higher bootup speed to my system, faster system > services and better performance. INDEED. contrary to linux that it's mostly faster in artifical tests, slower on everything else. contrary to NetBSD, (no idea about openbsd), not mentioning Slowlaris :) that's why i use it! > > But what about these advantages? They've got eaten up by all the > applications installed, their libraries and especially their GUI > toolkits. Nearly every Gtk application has been switched from > Gtk 1 to Gtk 2, including more disk consuming libs and depencencies, > slower program startup and slower reaction. unfortunately you are right. but you can use IMHO firefox with GTK1 > > My "favourite" examples are: > > * Opera, hardly reacting on input while loading a web > page (and no, I don't try to use "Flash" stuff) it's not libraries fault but opera fault IMHO. i see the same! > > * Gimp, loads very slowly, needs seconds (!) to show > the right click menu, needs several seconds to launch > printing dialog what gimp version. mine starts 10 seconds, then works quick. checked with ldd - it uses gtk2 and tons of other libs. are you sure there are no other problems with your system? > > On the other hand, there are "old" programs that seem to profit > from the system's speed gain. That's why I love to use them instead > of their "oversized brothers". so use them as long as you can - as i do. > > Such an "oversized brother" is KDE 4. Don't get me wrong, please. so why do you use it? it's mostly useless even if it would be fast. There is NO USE for it's "GUI", and it's programs are toys, not much usable. use separate programs for spreadsheets, word processors and similar "office" work. > On an up-to-date hardware basis, it's surely a joy to use, fast you are wrong. it's slow on quad core intel with 4GB RAM. i tested it. > and responsive. But if your system isn't from today, you don't > gonna have fun with it. Around me, other users seem to favour > Gnome instead of KDE because they are not willing to update their gnome is slow too. just a little bit less slow ;) my main and only personal computer is IBM Thinkpad T23 laptop with Pentium 3M/1200 and 256MB RAM. without all these bloats it happily runs all i need fast without any swapping. only opera gets slower ;) BTW are there somewhere available older version of opera package? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:58:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB01106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9A38FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDwAKY044288 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDwAUa044285 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:10 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497C6E17.9050801@fxclub.org> Message-ID: <20090125145732.E44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <497C6E17.9050801@fxclub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:58:22 -0000 > Well - and if need just to power on server and say it to boot at PXE and go > away for 30 min. > And then I came back - I have a typical preconfigured server. > I need full automatisation. so make simple PXE bootable system and write script to make disklabels, do newfs, install (copy/untar) your system, fix rc.conf and make disk bootable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 14:16:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EA3106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A33BC8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2009 13:49:25 -0000 Received: from c155238.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [213.39.155.238]) [213.39.155.238] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2009 14:49:25 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+DqUt5yAaDJVC/o/Knp3ehMzvg7akfrfqxXmj4dg 24sz/2qUCEuq+j Message-ID: <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:49:41 +0100 From: Lokadamus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:16:08 -0000 Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Hello all. > > I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. > As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. > Another idea is to make one installation and make an image of it. With clonezilla it will be able to use pxe to install it on many hosts. http://clonezilla.org/ After you install your image, you must, how Wojciech Puchar told you, change ip (or you use dhcp), hostname and other stuff like this. I've not tested clonezilla, but at work i use acronis trueimage to install windows on clients. Greeting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 14:53:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C95F106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ECD8FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PErCRv044422; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PErCUs044419; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lokadamus In-Reply-To: <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20090125155253.J44414@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:24 -0000 >> > Another idea is to make one installation and make an image of it. > With clonezilla it will be able to use pxe to install it on many hosts. > http://clonezilla.org/ > After you install your image, you must, how Wojciech Puchar told you, change > ip (or you use dhcp), hostname and other stuff like this. > > I've not tested clonezilla, but at work i use acronis trueimage to install > windows on clients. why don't simply use unix tools. for same-sized harddrives simply use dd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 15:07:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EB2106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9148FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) X-Trace: 126242246/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.226.102/None/ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.226.102 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-MUA: KMail/1.9.10 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABYIfEk+A+Jm/2dsb2JhbADKXIVL X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,321,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="126242246" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from davids-website.com (HELO www.davids-website.com) ([62.3.226.102]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 14:38:25 +0000 Received: from farscape.davids-website.com (farscape.davids-website.com [10.0.0.1]) by www.davids-website.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32B0C791 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:38:22 +0000 (GMT) From: LtCdData Organization: Microsoft-sux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:38:25 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251438.25261.ltcddats@nildram.co.uk> Subject: ghostscript8 fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:07:41 -0000 Hi I am having problems building ghostscript8-8.63 from ports with the below error : multiple definition of `gs_shared_init' ./obj/../soobj/gdevl256.o(.text+0x780): first defined here gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/libgs.so.8.63] Error 1 After some googling about it seems this is an old issue with a conflict between lvga256 and vgalib. The fix seems to be to build it without SVGAlib, but so far I have failed to get it to do. Ill assume I am doing something wrong here as I am not a coder. Any help with how to actually get ghostscript8 to build without SVGAlib would be much appreciated From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 15:47:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EDE106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lawrence.auster@att.net) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C428FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lawrence.auster@att.net) Received: from 2ao1z ([24.195.232.37]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:16:54 +0000 From: "Lawrence Auster" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> Subject: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lawrence.auster@att.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:04 -0000 Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zionist mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy that Obama is President of the USA? by David Duke Read the excerpt from the Israeli News about how President Perez and Israel think that Obama’s becoming U.S. President is great day for Israel. "Israel’s President Shimon Peres ecstatic over the election of Obama" Ronen Medzini Israel News Jan. 21 “Today is a great day not only for the United States of America, but for the entire world,” President Shimon Peres wrote in a letter addressed to Barack Obama on the day of his inauguration as president of the United States. “Obama was elected by the United States, but as a matter of fact, he was chosen by the whole of humankind,” Why is Peres so ecstatic? Why shouldn’t he be, he knows that Obama is completely in the grip of the extremist Jewish Zionists in America, and he knows that the greater Obama’s popularity and idol worship, the more Obama can do for the International Zionist Cause. Any thinking and caring human being who realizes that the Zionist-controlled American foreign policy has been a disaster for the robbed and murdered people of Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and a catastrophe for the 50,000 American wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as an economic catastrophe for the hardworking Americans who pay trillions to finance these wars for Israel — must wake up the fact that supporting Obama and increasing his popularity will only aid Zionist terrorism, war, and their murder and oppression of the Palestinians. It will also hasten the economic suffering of billions of people around the world as his popularity enables him to more easily aid the Zionist International Bankers steal the wealth of the United States, Europe and the world. Obama is totally in the bloodstained and green ink- stained hands of the Zionists. The hard truth is that the more good will and support Obama has also gives more power to support the Zionist agenda! Mark my words. The Obama Presidency will be disaster for America and for the world. Obama was put into office by the Zionists. His top two cohorts for years have been the radical Jews David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel. Both have long records of radical Zionism and have been attack dogs against anyone perceived as having the slightest opposition to Israel. One such victim was Sen. Charles Percy, who both men worked to defeat and destroy because he dared to only be 99 percent rather than 100 percent pro-Israel. Rahm Emmanuel, a dual citizen of Israel who went to fight for Israel, he has a long pedigree of Jewish extremism. His father served in the Irgun Terrorist Gang and he himself is named after an Irgun terrorist. Zionist leaders in Chicago actually call Obama “the first Jewish President” and boast that Jews were key players in Obama’s every step up the ladder to President. from the very earliest days, extremist Jews were the largest contributors to his campaign. In the beginning of his Presidential bid, three Hollywood Jews that constantly make movies about Jewish suffering, but never about the Zionist terrorism and theft against the Palestinian people, Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, and Jeffrey Katzenberg raised 1.2 million for Obama in a single Hollywood party. By the time Obama’s campaign was in full swing, he had huge support from the criminal Zionist International Banking firms such as Goldman Sachs and Lehman brothers. Goldman Sachs was Obama’s biggest single contributor, and his vast war chest came not from American manufacturing firms like GM or even American oil companies, (not one was in his top twenty) it was overwhelmingly dominated by Zionist international bankers, the same ones whose thievery and fraud are giving the world this economic depression. For those looking for meaningful social and political change, do you really think it will come from this man who has already been bought heart, head and soul by the most powerful czars of the international financial establishment and the biggest globalists in the world? I know that many are desperate for change, so desperate that you want to believe anything. But in the face of these facts can’t you see that Obama will be even more dangerous to freedom and justice than even George Bush and his band of Neocons were. What better way to wipe out George Bush’s hated legacy and make the world believe that America has really changed than with the election of Obama. But, all the real Zionist power, Zionist media power, and Zionist financial power in America is still in place, even stronger than ever. Many Americans and others around the world who want to do good are now telling us how wonderful Obama will be as president. What a great change it will be from the old policies. This is because of the Zionist-Controlled media hype, promoting Obama. The fact is that these poor sods are ignorantly helping the radical Zionist agenda in Israel and around the world. Every day that you don’t help expose Obama for the Zionist servant that he actually is, his popularity will be a greater danger to peace and freedom. If the Zionist terrorist Shimon Perez is happy about the coronation of Obama, then why in the hell should you be? –David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/7303_7303.html ------------------------------------- You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster Newletter. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript8 fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:22 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:38:25PM +0000, LtCdData wrote: > Hi > I am having problems building ghostscript8-8.63 from ports with the below= =20 > error > : multiple definition of `gs_shared_init' > ./obj/../soobj/gdevl256.o(.text+0x780): first defined here > gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/libgs.so.8.63] Error 1 > > After some googling about it seems this is an old issue with a conflict= =20 > between lvga256 and vgalib. The fix seems to be to build it without SVGAl= ib, =20 > but so far I have failed to get it to do. Ill assume I am doing something= =20 > wrong here as I am not a coder. Any help with how to actually get=20 > ghostscript8 to build without SVGAlib would be much appreciated=20 As root, go to the port directory with 'cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8'.= =20 Type 'make config' and disable the two SVGA lib drivers. You can use the PageUp and PageDown keys to scroll through the list of drivers. Disable anything you don't need. Then issue the commands 'make clean', and 'make install clean' to build and install the software. 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Rasat" Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:04:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:04:22 -0000 Lawrence Auster wrote: >Bla bla bla Ku Klux Klan crap. Why don't you bring your hatred outta here. This is a family-oriented channel. Next time, even when you put OOT label on subject, I still will call it crap. If you name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. -- Regards, Anthony M. Rasat Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division PT. Jawa Pos National Network Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Selatan 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:06:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1397010656C9 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AD68FC1C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so1431743ele.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:06:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=u5gU11jJsKvZImMjIJluHj94QYYdTg0AQcK8DAFecko=; b=rO2L8id+ZBECOIBy65Da9R7DO5VXH/l/Xj2KEk4a907R5PQlkyCl96XISPD9NiLITJ FFEEL2uKQZY/DWbQ8+UVTlw1gUA+sF1Y1wCpbRUZiJROxs5cZCHCnwpUVWLJTtptDLd/ gPE962eYRoiYCtfkZ3ABFr8KSDF0i/f4mVycc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; b=E+cTUYCoQWy3Syu9Y7hRDsrYUYtpACgi9tGRAizjIr5/afVjh1F6hLz4MeFfqCFz0J xJwtWpiP59OyTUj3vVjmTiSDejEYkliescmkwpJgNV9I2SqERrBO2Oz492cMxRMMz69u WDeyeF5zj5p6uDMEKrMpZulkb9aGI+CArv2xU= Received: by 10.65.98.8 with SMTP id a8mr2347768qbm.118.1232899584900; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from vms1 (206-248-190-95.dsl.teksavvy.com [206.248.190.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p31sm16647994qbp.18.2009.01.25.08.06.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Ansar Mohammed" To: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:06:32 -0500 Message-ID: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acl/BuPGhawTsuMUREuNxT1fBxkmTQ== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:06:26 -0000 Hello All, Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:16:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A55106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toold.zhang@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEBE8FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toold.zhang@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1154894qwb.7 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:16:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=nv6O3VpT4m2U1RydPAu/JpxDoksUs8aH7ddunDnSC+Q=; b=N2drDwATAWPWREOTIT+PIiZAu+jhMO4/9VvWJ9P2NOR6yybLdWd/dxEBo9yd/MlbjS ubCPPWdLJFHAzelo7QMKUyyjF759qDds+5qYDdp+LViPNOKlOOIkDvXTlngvC5A26Y0j 44ZReErOuMoM5yZyAin8X0mkPp6V7hbxkCnGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; b=CZcOZd9tHTDJnRFs+iSu5K5vwKWcci7VxWXSVnDRH3gKX7XKeIf/y7pqFnurK/Sigs ID+ZFa9wqkukrpd6sXzzgD+UmtvZqR0Cqimgp16TbgSM+5X+38AxAlVnEMutysbku7qX VaHJboqroS7myXEmnUyB89XEwm5dVMSgce+1o= Received: by 10.214.79.3 with SMTP id c3mr298538qab.370.1232900168163; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dell.home (pool-173-67-8-78.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net [173.67.8.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm6813037ywl.41.2009.01.25.08.16.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:16:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:15:49 -0500 (EST) From: Old Zhang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: nspluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:09 -0000 I have the following errors when I view YouTube video. I got the errors from linux-flashplugin9 and firefox3. LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/lib/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.1.3 required by /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so not defined] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/lib/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.1.3 required by /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so not defined] (npviewer.bin:59941): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Write() wait for reply: Message timeout *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:2236):invoke_NPP_DestroyStream: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1974):invoke_NPP_GetValue: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1855):invoke_NPP_Destroy: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) ------------------- If I use firefox 2, I get the following errors: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/lib/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.1.3 required by /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so not defined] (npviewer.bin:59983): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_SetWindow() wait for reply: Message timeout *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1974):invoke_NPP_GetValue: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1924):invoke_NPP_SetWindow: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:2164):invoke_NPP_NewStream: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) -------------------------- 'uname -a' output is FreeBSD xxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx.com 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 20 08:09:21 EST 2009 root@xxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MY7KERNEL i386 How do I fix it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:21:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6F8106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5785E8FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.72] (93-97-24-219.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.24.219]) by smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A698016 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:22 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:29 -0000 Hello, Can I read cpu die temperature for my AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu with coretemp? According to http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html it includes AMD processors but when I load coretemp.ko sysctl still can't see dev.cpu.?.temperature. Is this even the same coretemp as the website talks about windows a lot? This is on FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Dec 16 18:28:48 GMT 2008 with GENERIC kernel. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:23:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDA11065680 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F167D8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB2616C0172; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0PGNDj1017323; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090125172313.340f7e1b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125155253.J44414@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> <20090125155253.J44414@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lokadamus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:23:22 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > why don't simply use unix tools. for same-sized harddrives simply use dd Or dump / restore, as described in the handbook. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:25:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383BA1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32268FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0PGPt9F061407; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:25:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3DF47BA84; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:25:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:25:55 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Ansar Mohammed Message-ID: <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:57 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > Hello All, >=20 > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from FreeBS= D? Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=3Dtrue' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system =66rom source, as documented in the Handbook. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl8kpMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUdMgCeNc/hJB/WOEbzT8XiKvtCtE5g FZcAniUjbVkQ1nn0LARBuFhYfVYGdua2 =neU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:56:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CE6106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218338FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so3666320mue.3 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:56:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Md+7E0ndb1MyRdwsDaUr9wi+DKzNH+mk1SfpxHmKX84=; b=riNxoqHvV/5a/caYDhtAlbl5NENd0SLfI/aJw4WfWuH9Cmo6PFy51ZtpBP6ybVl6i4 oierbSCr7txpBvwKq/1JKlzXwqlcnLwCW1bpYUY7lxBiAolOsLVgHqKt1lwrlYnl0Hjl wTMF09DkG+ZJfjFFC8D2eGiFA+ymtYTYbfqt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o42zrrroec440kI3FmeSfS5QyDPo+QiX/W41P25Km7oYK/rlVQ0IiuHJ+sWFrfeeqg LNZDzX3k21RwuE3150X5Tyo3z1XCIovV+XJ++j+BBGf7vmddGYs/ZKW5KUIUU64AcIws TJ9qd+SQHtCFh/9MVOcVNESbuMSBjfWKccolI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.90.17 with SMTP id s17mr1326190mul.73.1232902560441; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:56:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> References: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <8cb6106e0901250856r616ab968w501c7ff918e65910@mail.gmail.com> From: Josh Carroll To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:56:03 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hello, > > Can I read cpu die temperature for my AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu with coretemp? > According to > > http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html > > it includes AMD processors but when I load coretemp.ko sysctl still can't > see dev.cpu.?.temperature. > > Is this even the same coretemp as the website talks about windows a lot? > > This is on FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Dec 16 18:28:48 GMT 2008 with > GENERIC kernel. For (supported) AMD processors, check out k8temp(4). Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 17:03:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA166106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4128FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C236636812; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:03:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:06:40 +0100 From: cpghost To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090125170640.GA1125@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125100344.V43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125100344.V43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:03:56 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:05:12AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > > if it ISO9660 filesystem image. > > you may check it before writing this way > > mdconfig -a -o readonly -t vnode -f cdr.iso > mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt > > then after checking > > umount /mnt > mdconfig -d -u 0 > > (assumed you don't use other md devices that moment, if so, device number > will not be md0) Right. But you can do it even faster, since our bsdtar is able to read (most) iso9660 images directly, e.g.: $ tar -tf cdr.iso -cpghost -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 17:04:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE2F10656C1 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s15.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s15.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98008FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY102-W24 ([64.4.61.124]) by bay0-omc3-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:04:23 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [190.188.27.112] From: Ramiro Caso To: , Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:04:22 -0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <06f1971fe3096c2194373fe9f642bd91.squirrel@dl1.njit.edu> References: <06f1971fe3096c2194373fe9f642bd91.squirrel@dl1.njit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2009 17:04:23.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8A914F0:01C97F0E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:04:24 -0000 > Date: Sat=2C 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 > From: wclark@dl1.njit.edu > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: (no subject) >=20 > I just in stalled VTiger and missed the instructions on how to install it > .do know or is there a command that will let me find that info You could take a look at /usr/ports/www/vtiger/files/pkg-message.in=3B this= won't make the appropriate substitutions (i.e.=2C '%%WWWDIR%%' for the act= ual directory)=2C but still it's something (the same goes for www/vtiger-cu= stomerportal and german/vtiger=2C if you installed any of them). _________________________________________________________________ Permanece actualizado con MSN Noticias. 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([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm10175376aga.29.2009.01.25.09.05.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:42 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:05:37 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:05:43 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > > FreeBSD? > > Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=true' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > from source, as documented in the Handbook. > > Roland Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere in 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man src.conf? [gonzalo@inferna ~]% locate src.conf /usr/share/man/man5/src.conf.5.gz /usr/src/share/man/man5/src.conf.5 [gonzalo@inferna ~]% Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:00:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4961106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7717B8FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGYwfEnUnw4R/2dsb2JhbADKcYVL Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 17:31:09 +0000 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1LR8pB-0007Xz-1v; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:31:09 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LR8pA-0000MY-G6; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:31:08 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:31:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251731.08301.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 4e300553a1285a7d96756fb98b203200 Cc: Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:00:28 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Can I read cpu die temperature for my AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu with > coretemp? According to the man page the coretemp driver only provides support for the on-die digital thermal sensor present in Intel Core and newer CPUs, suggesting that it wouldn't work for AMD CPUs. But I get sensible looking results for my Athlon 64 X2 4850e with the following command: sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature > According to > > http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html > > it includes AMD processors but when I load coretemp.ko sysctl still > can't see dev.cpu.?.temperature. > > Is this even the same coretemp as the website talks about windows a > lot? That looks like a totally different Windows only application. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:32:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D141065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EEA8FC1D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PHvmhC044872 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PHvm3I044869; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lawrence Auster In-Reply-To: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> Message-ID: <20090125185736.D44868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:32:13 -0000 > Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zionist mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy > that Obama is President of the USA? > by David Duke because he use FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:49:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0331065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258F18FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so8663909qyk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=XJHdXS7DFtF+obtbAj2O0AOCFZqJyGqbaNACqa6KNsI=; b=FwyGOp9uzzPbL5nuRcPWYBqVfVdZc36exzqjB0+Dw9J35HVqOyeGvVFfSowCxJ6TaZ zmYBXNigacHaSyeJYCn8t3DOrKUmJE9bVxrE6Z7aVXqo3JuVu+oa7t6p4Ef8aQ/3hlQG B7Kf9bwbQs2GQYrR/6/qeX6RMS5i5lN9GxfJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=fwALwrct4/+bdKbMRV+BDz+aGdxj+CspSYdx5Ld5WPUwpPGEmjz3ukazVYAGkglv9Z 9G9w5lIEHup1hIaeDWN5mYkxj/inwH432ZVFlcAcQyBbIJl13U27xNexr/7sHz/Eo0T6 0fqyFO0hJksiaIFanUgzIklQW0N+uop6SSfjQ= Received: by 10.214.11.17 with SMTP id 17mr1037153qak.77.1232909374553; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm2588978ywp.18.2009.01.25.10.49.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Bogdan Potishuk Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:49:17 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> <497CAC3C.7030309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <497CAC3C.7030309@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251649.17722.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:49:35 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 4:15:24 pm Bogdan Potishuk wrote: > Gonzalo Nemmi said the following on 25.01.2009 19:05: > > On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > >>> Hello All, > >>> > >>> Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > >>> FreeBSD? > >> > >> Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=true' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > >> from source, as documented in the Handbook. > >> > >> Roland > > > > Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere > > in 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man > > src.conf? > > > > [gonzalo@inferna ~]% locate src.conf > > /usr/share/man/man5/src.conf.5.gz > > /usr/src/share/man/man5/src.conf.5 > > [gonzalo@inferna ~]% > > You have to create /etc/src.conf with required options from src.conf(5) That's what I thought .. I just wanted to make sure ... I found it odd that there are examples/* for almost everything except for src.conf Anyway .. as soon as I have some spare time, I'll try to come up with a src.conf that could go under /usr/share/examples/etc/ in order to avoid the need to go through src.conf(5) in order to create one. Thanks for your kind answer. Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:53:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13987106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D47D8FC1A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0PIrCFD005097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:53:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 91FCBBA84; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:53:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:53:12 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gonzalo Nemmi Message-ID: <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:53:15 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:05:37PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > > > FreeBSD? > > > > Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=3Dtrue' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > > from source, as documented in the Handbook. > > > > Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere i= n=20 > 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man src.conf? You'll have to create it based on the manpage. All variables are listed in there. The default is to have no src.conf and build a kernel/world with everything in it. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl8tRgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWlFQCfZJRTuz73g5GcQR4e2OHKlxtN 2xAAnA/9XsJY1LFmUc5nd9ot90igocnV =qUsc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:00:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E220106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3C08FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2236697ywe.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:00:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=5JPd6Ksqjm2wsHiDBrydRmJojzA+3rP1POAQ5dw2wqE=; b=RV9BGcnzp6N6Ugy1FvtScIMrWZi79in4x9JquGDBRLNy+Jh4+xByvvlzzVB08HSbOf sjUnPsMxEw03Tv9hipKSx0YpEXmCqb/H9of8wFZSpEarll3CaGNxx7tDLAodoUGJIwyV /L8WphgTgIg0iRec+48maz6/a7Z4K+IyHDT+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=IeMTfwEia/eDpR/AD1BLh/EP4d8gY76hrWfT5kph5mXgaXcq8JunQwFp2qyMSU08QG XclBWvj4PxXSQPVmVM7pqEeNhKAeUs4/Yf6sDYqtg4SL9geVJB/YeNLJXSO98tepSbEb X/aUmQQZR1KuaQxOM2M+v/TbXiq/iMimS6BZI= Received: by 10.100.134.10 with SMTP id h10mr366049and.116.1232910005544; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12sm14791898and.24.2009.01.25.11.00.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:00:05 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Roland Smith Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:00:01 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251700.01126.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:00:07 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 4:53:12 pm Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:05:37PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > > > > FreeBSD? > > > > > > Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=true' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > > > from source, as documented in the Handbook. > > > > Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere > > in 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man > > src.conf? > > You'll have to create it based on the manpage. All variables are listed > in there. The default is to have no src.conf and build a kernel/world > with everything in it. > > Roland Sure thing Roland, I understand that .. otherwise chances are user would end up with half a system or a crippled one .. but I was thinking on a /usr/share/examples/etc/src.conf that would come in handy when rebuilding the whole system for, say, a notebook .. when you know in advanced that there's a lot of stuff you won't need. Going through src.conf(5) is ok .. but having a src.conf template already available and fully commented sounds better to me ... Nothing is further from the truth than my opinions, but I still think that having such a file available does come in handy :) Best Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:11:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D6D1065679 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-6-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-6-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CAA8FC26 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) X-Trace: 70641678/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.226.102/None/ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.226.102 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-MUA: KMail/1.9.10 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAP5HfEk+A+Jm/2dsb2JhbADKa4VL X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,322,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="70641678" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from davids-website.com (HELO www.davids-website.com) ([62.3.226.102]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 19:11:55 +0000 Received: from farscape.davids-website.com (farscape.davids-website.com [10.0.0.1]) by www.davids-website.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18611C78E for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:52 +0000 (GMT) From: LtCdData Organization: Microsoft-sux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:55 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901251438.25261.ltcddats@nildram.co.uk> <20090125154719.GA80226@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090125154719.GA80226@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-3" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251911.55650.ltcddats@nildram.co.uk> Subject: Re: ghostscript8 fails to build- cheerz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:59 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:38:25PM +0000, LtCdData wrote: > > Hi > > I am having problems building ghostscript8-8.63 from ports with the below > > error > > > > : multiple definition of `gs_shared_init' > > > > ./obj/../soobj/gdevl256.o(.text+0x780): first defined here > > gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/libgs.so.8.63] Error 1 > > > > After some googling about it seems this is an old issue with a conflict > > between lvga256 and vgalib. The fix seems to be to build it without > > SVGAlib, but so far I have failed to get it to do. Ill assume I am doing > > something wrong here as I am not a coder. Any help with how to actually > > get ghostscript8 to build without SVGAlib would be much appreciated > > As root, go to the port directory with 'cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8'. > Type 'make config' and disable the two SVGA lib drivers. You can use the > PageUp and PageDown keys to scroll through the list of drivers. Disable > anything you don't need. Then issue the commands 'make clean', and 'make > install clean' to build and install the software. > > Roland worked a charm thanks :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:15:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A48106568A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A9C8FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3956218fgb.35 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:15:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/GOtNEWeN8+Q1Yab2reIy2O3bKxErYSL78H/e2Have0=; b=I6b4yD1/+gmcyc6Qch8nnbjkXoOWy2S3ExueWdetN9+v/R9+oSJ4AE2XEG9Ue27gJk B0i7BrqM8qipT/nr4e0/WDXdDKGGVQY7BsdiOSToY+6aoSl7Iy/oBo7tY4wU+3ooEZhA Nmi2lo9acEO22OxtOqk9H2r1/5wei1RxVsM10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=m5wJDlCCwXQiSmcUKPFa9patoUKwmRj5DB2wc1YsnaCqZnVqwWs6FRYQ+tIovzTRF+ jvhkehSSI6kYVXYlzwTmY53f9zMGtdgdQdLJPCR8Tx7TKY2woMI1u9QY5Iln/qu7D3qg z4WChzFAgrft1QwVKgJsrexU6hg3BdmirWLQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.25.17 with SMTP id 17mr961051fgy.57.1232908954066; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:42:34 +0200 Message-ID: <75a268720901251042p67515b92kda61bc875dcdab97@mail.gmail.com> From: Omer Faruk Sen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: atacontrol software or hardware raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:15:23 -0000 How can I detect if system has Software or hardware raid? Since in manual page: The atacontrol command can also be used to create purely software RAID arrays in systems that do NOT have a "real" hardware RAID card such as a Highpoint or Promise card. A common scenario is a 1U server such as the HP DL320 G4 or G5. These servers contain a SATA controller that has 2 channels that can contain 2 disks per channel, but the servers are wired to only place a single SATA drive on each channel. Or how can I find out if the hardware is "real" hardware RAID card? For example my system has following dmesg output: ad4: 152627MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 152627MB at ata3-master SATA300 ar0: 152625MB status: READY ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad6 at ata3-master ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad4 at ata2-master This system is an intel server with S3210SH server board in it. While installing system I see ad4,ad6 and ar0 as harddrives in sysinstall. I choose to install ar0. Additionally as far as I see ar0 is very susceptible to errors since a single CRC error can break the RAID consistency is that normal? I really appreciate those who uses such a kind of RAID1 Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:40:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD658106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from cf.bluelight.org.uk (bluelight.org.uk [80.229.144.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804018FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from [192.168.2.138] by cf.bluelight.org.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRA9s-0006Z9-Ac for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:56:40 +0000 Message-ID: <497CB5E9.9060607@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:56:41 +0000 From: Terry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "cf.bluelight.org.uk", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I am trying to upgrade from 7.0-STABLE to 7.1 Release. I used RELENG_7_1 as my cvsup tag. But no matter what I try I get error's during make buildworld [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Subject: Buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:40:34 -0000 I am trying to upgrade from 7.0-STABLE to 7.1 Release. I used RELENG_7_1 as my cvsup tag. But no matter what I try I get error's during make buildworld ------------------------------------------------------- /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/sched-ebb.c: In function 'schedule_ebbs': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/sched-ebb.c:542: internal compiler error: in find_idf, at tree-into-ssa.c:1040 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int. *** Error code 1 ------------------------------------------------------ I did read on google that one person got around it by installing ccache but it didnt work for me also the error is not all ways the same -------------------------------------------------- /include -c asn1_HostAddress.c -o asn1_HostAddress.So asn1_HostAddress.c: In function 'decode_HostAddress': asn1_HostAddress.c:52: internal compiler error: in find_idf, at tree-into-ssa.c:1040 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libasn1. ------------------------------------------------- The machine runs fine and ports build with no problems. Any info welcome Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:52:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD674106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7789E8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.72] (93-97-24-219.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.24.219]) by smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87F29813F; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:52:02 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <497CC2E2.7030005@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:52:02 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: josh.carroll@gmail.com References: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> <8cb6106e0901250856r616ab968w501c7ff918e65910@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0901250856r616ab968w501c7ff918e65910@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:52:05 -0000 Josh Carroll wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Can I read cpu die temperature for my AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu with coretemp? >> According to >> >> http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html >> >> it includes AMD processors but when I load coretemp.ko sysctl still can't >> see dev.cpu.?.temperature. >> >> Is this even the same coretemp as the website talks about windows a lot? >> >> This is on FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Dec 16 18:28:48 GMT 2008 with >> GENERIC kernel. > > For (supported) AMD processors, check out k8temp(4). That's it thank you! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 20:31:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06925106567A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfalang@twcny.rr.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687628FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfalang@twcny.rr.com) Received: from bobscomputer ([74.71.227.229]) by hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090125201604.MWJC6616.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@bobscomputer> for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:16:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <497CC886.000009.03040@BOBSCOMPUTER> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:16:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Content-Type: Multipart/related; charset="iso-8859-1"; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_UYM1MY50000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (5853718) From: "Bob Falanga" References: <20090124224546.8058310656F1@hub.freebsd.org> X-FID: B433CDFE-B71C-42C2-A5C1-D34C076A9851 X-Priority: 3 To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 51 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:31:31 -0000 --------------Boundary-00=_UYM1MY50000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org=0D Date: 1/24/2009 5:47:01 PM=0D To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Subject: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 51=0D =0D Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to=0D freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D =0D To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=0D http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0D or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to=0D freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org=0D =0D You can reach the person managing the list at=0D freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org=0D =0D When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific=0D than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..."=0D =0D =0D Today's Topics:=0D =0D 1. default CFLAGS (Saifi Khan)=0D 2. Re: port openoffice.org-devl (3.1.20081224) installs fine but=0D does not run (Sergio de Almeida Lenzi)=0D 3. Re: flashplugin7 doesn't play video (Wojciech Puchar)=0D 4. Re: default CFLAGS (RW)=0D 5. Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version (Saifi Khan)=0D 6. Re: Registry corrupt? (Jack L. Stone)=0D 7. Re: default CFLAGS (RW)=0D 8. Re: Registry corrupt? (Robert Huff)=0D 9. Re: Registry corrupt? (Jack L. Stone)=0D 10. Re: Start-up of freeBSD need help with one question.=0D (Lowell Gilbert)=0D 11. Re: x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 problem/question. (Lowell Gilbert)=0D 12. Re: Registry corrupt? (Jack L. Stone)=0D 13. Healtd (Graeme Dargie)=0D 14. Re: port openoffice.org-devl (3.1.20081224) installs fine but=0D does not run (Matthias Apitz)=0D 15. Re: default CFLAGS (Morgan Wesstr?m)=0D 16. Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version (Paul B. Mahol)=0D 17. Re: Registry corrupt? (Daniel Bye)=0D 18. Re: default CFLAGS (RW)=0D 19. Re: jdk16 (Frank Shute)=0D 20. Re: x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 problem/question. (Jimmie James)=0D 21. Re: default CFLAGS (Pojken Purken)=0D 22. Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions.=0D (Doug Poland)=0D 23. Re: default CFLAGS (Saifi Khan)=0D 24. Re: default CFLAGS (Morgan Wesstr?m)=0D 25. Re: Registry corrupt? (Wojciech Puchar)=0D 26. Re: how to scrollback in terminal (Tim Judd)=0D 27. Re: Registry corrupt? (Tim Judd)=0D 28. Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap (Tim Judd)=0D 29. Re: default CFLAGS (RW)=0D 30. Re: mounting Nokia N95 (Warren Liddell)=0D 31. Re: default CFLAGS (Morgan Wesstr?m)=0D 32. Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap (Kris Kennaway)=0D =0D =0D ----------------------------------------------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 1=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:35:38 +0000 (GMT)=0D From: Saifi Khan =0D Subject: default CFLAGS=0D To: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID: =0D Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0D =0D Hi all:=0D =0D What is the default CFLAGS if *no* CFLAGS has been specified in=0D /etc/make.conf ?=0D =0D As an example, let us consider a FreeBSD 7.1 system running on a=0D Intel Celeron M.=0D =0D thanks=0D Saifi.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 2=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:13:32 -0200=0D From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi =0D Subject: Re: port openoffice.org-devl (3.1.20081224) installs fine but=0D does not run=0D To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions=0D =0D Message-ID: <1232799212.7222.10.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa>=0D Content-Type: text/plain=0D =0D Hello...=0D =0D =0D It is because the installation (the makefile is wrong, it install the=0D binary /usr/local/openoffice.org..../openoffice.org3/program/soffice=0D as a copy of soffice.bin)=0D it must install it as a shell script that fixes the loader path.=0D here is the shell script (named soffice).=0D copy over the binary soffice and make it executable=0D here it runs fine... FreeBSD amd64.=0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0D #!/bin/sh=0D #************************************************************************= *=0D #=0D # DO NOT ALTER OR REMOVE COPYRIGHT NOTICES OR THIS FILE HEADER.=0D #=0D # Copyright 2008 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.=0D #=0D # OpenOffice.org - a multi-platform office productivity suite=0D #=0D # $RCSfile: soffice.sh,v $=0D #=0D # $Revision: 1.34 $=0D #=0D # This file is part of OpenOffice.org.=0D #=0D # OpenOffice.org is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify=0D # it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License version 3=0D # only, as published by the Free Software Foundation.=0D #=0D # OpenOffice.org is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,=0D # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of=0D # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the=0D # GNU Lesser General Public License version 3 for more details=0D # (a copy is included in the LICENSE file that accompanied this code).=0D #=0D # You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public=0D License=0D # version 3 along with OpenOffice.org. If not, see=0D # =0D # for a copy of the LGPLv3 License.=0D #=0D #************************************************************************= *=0D =0D #=0D # STAR_PROFILE_LOCKING_DISABLED=3D1=0D # export STAR_PROFILE_LOCKING_DISABLED=0D #=0D =0D # file locking now enabled by default=0D SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=3D1=0D export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=0D =0D # Uncomment the line below if you suspect that OpenGL is not=0D # working on your system.=0D # SAL_NOOPENGL=3Dtrue; export SAL_NOOPENGL=0D =0D # the following test is needed on Linux PPC with IBM j2sdk142=0D if [ "`uname -s`" =3D "Linux" -a "`uname -m`" =3D "ppc" ] ; then=0D JITC_PROCESSOR_TYPE=3D6=0D export JITC_PROCESSOR_TYPE=0D fi=0D =0D # resolve installation directory=0D sd_cwd=3D"`pwd`"=0D if [ -h "$0" ] ; then=0D sd_basename=3D`basename "$0"`=0D sd_script=3D`ls -l "$0" | sed "s/.*${sd_basename} -> //g"`=0D cd "`dirname "$0"`"=0D cd "`dirname "$sd_script"`"=0D else=0D cd "`dirname "$0"`"=0D fi=0D sd_prog=3D`pwd`=0D cd "$sd_cwd"=0D =0D sd_binary=3D`basename "$0"`.bin=0D =0D #collect all bootstrap variables specified on the command line=0D #so that they can be passed as arguments to javaldx later on=0D for arg in $@=0D do=0D case "$arg" in=0D -env:*) BOOTSTRAPVARS=3D$BOOTSTRAPVARS" ""$arg";;=0D esac=0D done=0D =0D # extend the ld_library_path for java: javaldx checks the sofficerc for=0D us=0D if [ -x "$sd_prog/../basis-link/ure-link/bin/javaldx" ] ; then=0D # this is a temporary hack until we can live with the default search=0D paths=0D case "`uname -s`" in=0D FreeBSD)=0D sd_prog1=3D"$sd_prog/../basis-link/program"=0D sd_prog2=3D"$sd_prog/../basis-link/ure-link/lib"=0D LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D$sd_prog1:$sd_prog2${LD_LIBRARY_PATH+:=0D ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}}=0D export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=0D ;;=0D esac=0D my_path=3D`"$sd_prog/../basis-link/ure-link/bin/javaldx"=0D $BOOTSTRAPVARS \=0D "-env:INIFILENAME=3Dvnd.sun.star.pathname:$sd_prog/redirectrc"`=0D if [ -n "$my_path" ] ; then=0D LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D$my_path${LD_LIBRARY_PATH+:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH}=0D export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=0D fi=0D fi=0D =0D unset XENVIRONMENT=0D =0D # uncomment line below to disable anti aliasing of fonts=0D # SAL_ANTIALIAS_DISABLE=3Dtrue; export SAL_ANTIALIAS_DISABLE=0D =0D # uncomment line below if you encounter problems starting soffice on=0D your system=0D # SAL_NO_XINITTHREADS=3Dtrue; export SAL_NO_XINITTHREADS=0D =0D # pagein=0D for sd_arg in ${1+"$@"} ; do=0D case ${sd_arg} in=0D -calc)=0D sd_pagein_args=3D"${sd_pagein_args:=0D +${sd_pagein_args} }@pagein-calc"=0D break;=0D ;;=0D -draw)=0D sd_pagein_args=3D"${sd_pagein_args:=0D +${sd_pagein_args} }@pagein-draw"=0D break;=0D ;;=0D -impress)=0D sd_pagein_args=3D"${sd_pagein_args:=0D +${sd_pagein_args} }@pagein-impress"=0D break;=0D ;;=0D -writer)=0D sd_pagein_args=3D"${sd_pagein_args:=0D +${sd_pagein_args} }@pagein-writer"=0D break;=0D ;;=0D *)=0D ;;=0D esac=0D done=0D =0D # read database entries for Adabas D=0D if [ -f /etc/adabasrc ]; then=0D . /etc/adabasrc=0D fi=0D =0D sd_pagein_args=3D"${sd_pagein_args:+${sd_pagein_args} }@pagein-common"=0D "$sd_prog/../basis-link/program/pagein"=0D -L"$sd_prog/../basis-link/program" \=0D ${sd_pagein_args}=0D =0D # Set PATH so that crash_report is found:=0D PATH=3D$sd_prog${PATH+:$PATH}=0D export PATH=0D =0D # execute soffice binary=0D "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@" &=0D trap 'kill -9 $!' TERM=0D wait $!=0D =0D while [ $? -eq 79 ]=0D do=0D "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" ""$BOOTSTRAPVARS"" &=0D wait $!=0D done=0D =0D exit=0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=0D =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 3=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:19:36 +0100 (CET)=0D From: Wojciech Puchar =0D Subject: Re: flashplugin7 doesn't play video=0D To: Joakim Fogelberg =0D Cc: Old Zhang , FreeBSD Mailing List=0D =0D Message-ID: <20090124131926.M40840@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>=0D Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Old Zhang wrot= e:=0D >> I just updated linux-flashplugin7, xorg, and firefox (version 2) up to date.=0D >> However, the flashplugin7 can't play video, I see only a black box on= =0D >> YouTube.=0D =0D youtube-dl from ports is your friend=0D =0D >=0D > I had the same problem with linux-flashplugin7.=0D > Switching to linux-flashplugin9 fixed the problem.=0D >=0D > --=0D >=0D > Joakim Fogelberg=0D > _______________________________________________=0D > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0D > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0D > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd org"=0D >=0D >=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 4=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:45:35 +0000=0D From: RW =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <20090124124535.3006687c@gumby.homeunix.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0D =0D On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:35:38 +0000 (GMT)=0D Saifi Khan wrote:=0D =0D > Hi all:=0D >=0D > What is the default CFLAGS if *no* CFLAGS has been specified in=0D > /etc/make.conf ?=0D >=0D > As an example, let us consider a FreeBSD 7.1 system running on a=0D > Intel Celeron M.=0D =0D It depends on what you've set as CPUTYPE, and the platform; you can=0D find out with=0D =0D make -V CFLAGS=0D =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 5=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:31:32 +0000 (GMT)=0D From: Saifi Khan =0D Subject: Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version=0D To: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID: =0D Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0D =0D On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Paul B. Mahol wrote:=0D =0D > On 1/24/09, Saifi Khan wrote:=0D > > Hi:=0D > >=0D > > Qt 4.4.3 is installed on my FreeBSD 7.1 i386 system.=0D > >=0D > > Now, when i attempt to install Opera 9.63 from the ports, it tries to= =0D > > download Qt 3.3.8=0D > > Is there a way to modify the installation script so that Opera can us= e=0D > > the installed qt 4.4.3 version ?=0D >=0D > Yes you can modify it, but question is will opera work at all with qt 4= =2E=0D > There is static opera binary, try it.=0D >=0D >=0D > --=0D > Paul=0D >=0D =0D The download site for FreeBSD is=0D http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=3Dfreebsd-i386&list=3Dall=0D =0D It shows the following entry=0D FreeBSD 7.x (static) 7 MB=0D =0D But when the file is downloaded, it is "shared" version.=0D opera-9.63-freebsd7-shared-qt3.i386.tar.bz2=0D =0D Thus static opera binary is not available :(=0D =0D =0D thanks=0D Saifi.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 6=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:06:39 -0600=0D From: "Jack L. Stone" =0D Subject: Re: Registry corrupt?=0D To: cpghost =0D Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20090124070639.00f092c0@sage-american.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0D =0D At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:=0D >On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:=0D >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone=0D wrote:=0D >>=0D >> > During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 --> fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.=0D >> > Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given th= e=0D >> > precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several but not al= l=0D >> > programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup= )=0D >> > withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.=0D >=0D >Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those=0D >programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.=0D >=0D >You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's=0D >assume that you have zip installed:=0D >=0D >$ ldd /usr/local/bin/zip=0D >/usr/local/bin/zip:=0D > libbz2.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libbz2.so.3 (0x80065c000)=0D > libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80076c000)=0D >=0D =0D Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't ru= n:=0D ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup=0D ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable=0D =0D BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still gives= =0D this error:=0D /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found=0D =0D Yes, I did re-install the port too. No dice.=0D =0D Again MOST all programs run except for this one and maybe a couple others= =0D that may be causing buildworld to fail.=0D =0D Strange!=0D =0D Jack=0D =0D (^_^)=0D Happy trails,=0D Jack L. Stone=0D =0D System Admin=0D Sage-american=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 7=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:16:29 +0000=0D From: RW =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: Saifi Khan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <20090124131629.1f9fabe4@gumby.homeunix.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0D =0D On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:51:32 +0000=0D Saifi Khan wrote:=0D =0D =0D > on running the command 'make -V CFLAGS', the output is=0D >=0D > -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe=0D >=0D > i haven't setup the CPUTYPE anywhere (not as an env variable nor in=0D > /etc/make.conf)=0D > So are these default settings for a generc x86 based system ?=0D =0D Yes, if you are using i386.=0D =0D Most CPUs have the same default CFLAGS, it's the value of CPUTYPE=0D that's passed to the compiler that determines processor optimizations.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 8=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:23:56 -0500=0D From: Robert Huff =0D Subject: Re: Registry corrupt?=0D To: "Jack L. Stone" =0D Cc: cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <18811.5740.824872.505272@jerusalem.litteratus.org>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0D =0D =0D Jack L. Stone writes:=0D =0D > >Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those=0D > >programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.=0D > >=0D > >You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's=0D > >assume that you have zip installed:=0D >=0D > Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't run:=0D > ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup=0D > ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable=0D >=0D > BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program=0D > still gives this error:=0D =0D No, it's a script - perl, to be exact - and does not count for=0D the purposes of ldd.=0D Compare "more /usr/local/ bin/fastest_cvsup" and "more=0D /usr/bin/csup".=0D =0D =0D Robert Huff=0D =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 9=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:29:16 -0600=0D From: "Jack L. Stone" =0D Subject: Re: Registry corrupt?=0D To: cpghost =0D Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20090124072916.00edaf80@sage-american.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0D =0D At 07:06 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:=0D >At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:=0D >>On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:=0D >>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone=0D >wrote:=0D >>>=0D >>> > During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 --> fbsd-7.0, something strange=0D happened.=0D >>> > Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given t= he=0D >>> > precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several but not a= ll=0D >>> > programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsu= p)=0D >>> > withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.=0D >>=0D =0D BTW: as more details of the problem, I had found a tiny bug in "mkdep"=0D which initially caused the upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 to fail during=0D buildworld. Once fixed, it "appeared" to upgrade fine=0D (build/install/mergemaster), including a new kernel build/install, but on= =0D reboot it still shows 6.3...!!! I have rmoved /usr/obj and even /usr/src=0D and tried over several times, but same result. Some parts of the system i= s=0D running okay, but not others.=0D =0D Have wasted too much time on this machine and today will move to a new=0D machine and start over. This server is one of our DNS servers, so we're=0D covered with others that take over during shutdown of this problem server= =2E=0D The DNS (or named) is one of the parts not running correctly and the most= =0D vital.=0D =0D Just a very strange issue and wondered if anyone else had similar results= =0D ever -- it may just be the machine, but didn't act like it.=0D =0D Thanks again,=0D Jack=0D =0D (^_^)=0D Happy trails,=0D Jack L. Stone=0D =0D System Admin=0D Sage-american=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 10=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:42:24 -0500=0D From: Lowell Gilbert =0D Subject: Re: Start-up of freeBSD need help with one question.=0D To: Bob Falanga =0D Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <44iqo4vn0f.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0D =0D Bob Falanga writes:=0D =0D > When I try to configure a printer, CUPS requires a user id, my own or r= oot =0D > But it will not accept either.=0D > Interestingly, at boot up time I saw CUPS started three times but canno= t=0D > find where all the requests for start is.=0D > I added a line in rd.conf to start CUPS but that is the only place.=0D =0D I'd try to solve the second problem before the first (for me, the root=0D password works fine; although normally, I don't *have* a valid password=0D on the root account).=0D =0D The correct way to start cups from rc.conf is:=0D cupsd_enable=3D"YES"=0D Is that how you do it?=0D =0D That is how I configured rc.conf.=0D Why should it start 3 times in the startup?=0D =0D Bob Falanga=0D =0D --=0D Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area=0D http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 11=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:49:43 -0500=0D From: Lowell Gilbert =0D Subject: Re: x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 problem/question.=0D To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com=0D Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <44eiysvmo8.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0D =0D Jimmie James writes:=0D =0D > While it looks like it install/runs fine (i.e, linux-flash9 works,=0D > skype works) the following error is show=0D > (process:47722): GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown=0D > user id (0)=0D >=0D > Following this advice, all I could find,=0D > http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=3Dfreebsd-emulation&a=3D2005-11&t=3D150683= 3=0D > The fix is, to tell /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to look at NIS too.= =0D > Is UID 0 in your /etc/passwd? Can you try changeing=0D > /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to something like this:=0D >=0D > passwd: files nisplus nis=0D > shadow: files nisplus nis=0D > group: files nisplus nis=0D >=0D > Uid 0 is in my /etc/passwd, there's no /compat/linux/etc/passwd., and=0D > changing /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to read the same doesn't fix=0D > the error message.=0D >=0D > Advice, suggestions?=0D =0D Those setting for nsswitch.conf don't look right to me.=0D There should have been a message printed out when you installed one of=0D the linux_base ports, telling you how to configure it.=0D I think the fc4 version is the default these days; if that is what you=0D are using, the message is in the file=0D /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4/pkg-message=0D =0D =0D --=0D Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area=0D http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 12=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:53:47 -0600=0D From: "Jack L. Stone" =0D Subject: Re: Registry corrupt?=0D To: cpghost =0D Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20090124075347.00edaf80@sage-american.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0D =0D At 07:29 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:=0D >At 07:06 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:=0D >>At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:=0D >>>On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:=0D >>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone=0D >>wrote:=0D >>>>=0D >>>> > During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 --> fbsd-7.0, something strange=0D >happened.=0D >>>> > Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given = the=0D >>>> > precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several but not = all=0D >>>> > programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvs= up)=0D >>>> > withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.=0D >>>=0D >=0D =0D BTW2: Yes, I do know this isn't windows and doesn't have a "registry" per= =0D se in that regard, but "something" does keep track of the programs=0D installed and I've never located that place/file/db not having a crucial=0D reason to before.=0D =0D Jack=0D =0D (^_^)=0D Happy trails,=0D Jack L. Stone=0D =0D System Admin=0D Sage-american=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 13=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:18:45 -0000=0D From: "Graeme Dargie" =0D Subject: Healtd=0D To: =0D Message-ID:=0D <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F78973929561A@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0D =0D Having upgraded my motherboard I have discovered that healthd does not=0D like the chipset as the values it is producing are way out eg cpu temp=0D 255c, I wonder if anyone can recommend a good more upto date alternative=0D that would work with phpsysinfo or mrtg ?=0D =0D =0D =0D Regards=0D =0D =0D =0D Graeme=0D =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 14=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:25:25 +0100=0D From: Matthias Apitz =0D Subject: Re: port openoffice.org-devl (3.1.20081224) installs fine but=0D does not run=0D To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi =0D Cc: freebsd-questions =0D Message-ID: <20090124142525.GA14942@rebelion.Sisis.de>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1=0D =0D El d=EDa Saturday, January 24, 2009 a las 10:13:32AM -0200, Sergio de Alm= eida Lenzi escribi=F3:=0D =0D > Hello...=0D >=0D >=0D > It is because the installation (the makefile is wrong, it install the=0D > binary /usr/local/openoffice.org..../openoffice.org3/program/soffice=0D > as a copy of soffice.bin)=0D > it must install it as a shell script that fixes the loader path.=0D > here is the shell script (named soffice).=0D > copy over the binary soffice and make it executable=0D > here it runs fine... FreeBSD amd64.=0D =0D Hola S=E9rgio,=0D =0D =A1Obrigado!=0D =0D I will give it a try. The e-mail transport has mangeled a bit with your=0D shell script but I have seen two identicals ones in the port:=0D =0D work/DEV300_m38/desktop/scripts/soffice.sh=0D work/DEV300_m38/desktop/unxfbsdi.pro/misc/soffice.sh=0D =0D and I will test it.=0D =0D Thx=0D =0D matthias=0D =0D --=0D Matthias Apitz=0D Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH=0D Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany=0D t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211=0D e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.= de/=0D b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/=0D =0D SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen=0D >From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 15=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:27:02 +0100=0D From: Morgan Wesstr?m =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID: <497B2536.7030907@pp.dyndns.biz>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D RW wrote:=0D > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:51:32 +0000=0D > Saifi Khan wrote:=0D >=0D >=0D >> on running the command 'make -V CFLAGS', the output is=0D >>=0D >> -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe=0D >>=0D >> i haven't setup the CPUTYPE anywhere (not as an env variable nor in=0D >> /etc/make.conf)=0D >> So are these default settings for a generc x86 based system ?=0D >=0D > Yes, if you are using i386.=0D >=0D > Most CPUs have the same default CFLAGS, it's the value of CPUTYPE=0D > that's passed to the compiler that determines processor optimizations.=0D =0D If you want to know what gcc processor optimizations will be enabled you=0D can do this:=0D =0D Create hello.c:=0D =0D #include =0D main()=0D {=0D printf("hello, world\n");=0D }=0D =0D Then compile it with -Q -v in addition to the default CFLAGS:=0D =0D gcc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Q -v -o hello hello.c=0D =0D The section "options enabled" will list them all. I usually only add=0D "-march=3Dnative" to my CFLAGS to enable a few more CPU specific=0D optimizations.=0D =0D /Morgan=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 16=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:36:37 +0100=0D From: "Paul B. Mahol" =0D Subject: Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version=0D To: Saifi Khan =0D Cc: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID:=0D <3a142e750901240836s4461ee1dt9cdb806dcf34492a@mail.gmail.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D On 1/24/09, Saifi Khan wrote:=0D > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Paul B. Mahol wrote:=0D >=0D >> On 1/24/09, Saifi Khan wrote:=0D >> > Hi:=0D >> >=0D >> > Qt 4.4.3 is installed on my FreeBSD 7.1 i386 system.=0D >> >=0D >> > Now, when i attempt to install Opera 9.63 from the ports, it tries t= o=0D >> > download Qt 3.3.8=0D >> > Is there a way to modify the installation script so that Opera can u= se=0D >> > the installed qt 4.4.3 version ?=0D >>=0D >> Yes you can modify it, but question is will opera work at all with qt = 4.=0D >> There is static opera binary, try it.=0D >>=0D >>=0D >> --=0D >> Paul=0D >>=0D >=0D > The download site for FreeBSD is=0D > http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=3Dfreebsd-i386&list=3Dall=0D >=0D > It shows the following entry=0D > FreeBSD 7.x (static) 7 MB=0D >=0D > But when the file is downloaded, it is "shared" version.=0D > opera-9.63-freebsd7-shared-qt3.i386.tar.bz2=0D >=0D > Thus static opera binary is not available :(=0D =0D Well for 9.63 there is only static one for FreeBSD 5.=0D After all this is not freebsd problem, ask opera where is=0D static version for FreeBSD 7=0D =0D --=0D Paul=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 17=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:50:01 +0000=0D From: "Daniel Bye" =0D Subject: Re: Registry corrupt?=0D To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <20090124165001.GC54892@torus.slightlystrange.org>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0D =0D On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 07:53:47AM -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:=0D > At 07:29 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:=0D > >At 07:06 AM 1.24.2009 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:=0D > >>At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:=0D > >>>On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:= =0D > >>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone=0D > >>wrote:=0D > >>>>=0D > >>>> > During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 --> fbsd-7.0, something strange=0D > >happened.=0D > >>>> > Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when give= n the=0D > >>>> > precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several but no= t all=0D > >>>> > programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup)=0D > >>>> > withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.=0D > >>>=0D > >=0D >=0D > BTW2: Yes, I do know this isn't windows and doesn't have a "registry" p= er=0D > se in that regard, but "something" does keep track of the programs=0D > installed and I've never located that place/file/db not having a crucia= l=0D > reason to before.=0D =0D Ports and packages are, if you like, 'registered' in subdirectories of=0D /var/db/pkg=0D =0D Dan=0D =0D --=0D Daniel Bye=0D _=0D ASCII ribbon campaign ( )=0D - against HTML, vCards and X=0D - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \=0D -------------- next part --------------=0D A non-text attachment was scrubbed...=0D Name: not available=0D Type: application/pgp-signature=0D Size: 196 bytes=0D Desc: not available=0D Url : http://lists.freebsd org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20090124/b7158197/attachment-= 0001 pgp=0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 18=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:43:57 +0000=0D From: RW =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <20090124174357.4aafcf1a@gumby.homeunix.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:27:02 +0100=0D Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote:=0D =0D =0D > The section "options enabled" will list them all. I usually only add=0D > "-march=3Dnative" to my CFLAGS to enable a few more CPU specific=0D > optimizations.=0D =0D If you set CPUTYPE, -march is set to match, so setting -march=3Dnative=0D should be redundant. OTOH a number of other make variables are defined=0D from CPUTYPE, so if you set -march=3Dnative, but not CPUTYPE you might=0D miss some optimisations based on build options.=0D =0D I've no idea whether there are any such options, just that you're=0D probably not going to do better than setting CPUTYPE, and leaving the=0D rest alone.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 19=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:35 +0000=0D From: Frank Shute =0D Subject: Re: jdk16=0D To: Brian McQueen =0D Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <20090124175635.GA95379@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0D =0D On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:53:31PM -0800, Brian McQueen wrote:=0D >=0D > I can't seem to find the files listed in the jdk16 port. What are=0D > folks doing to get java going? The urls listed in the port are not=0D > right, so the manual download step does not work.=0D =0D I built jdk16 a few months ago & the urls were right.=0D =0D Is your ports tree up-to-date? Although I don't think the urls have=0D changed.=0D =0D What errors are you getting? 404s? What urls are you using?=0D =0D IIRC you have to register an account with Sun before you can download=0D the jdk from their site.=0D =0D You have to place the downloaded files in /usr/ports/distfiles/ before=0D you can build the port without make(1) dropping out after printing the=0D message with the urls.=0D =0D The port built fine for me.=0D =0D =0D Regards,=0D =0D --=0D =0D Frank=0D =0D =0D Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html=0D =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 20=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:06:08 -0500=0D From: Jimmie James =0D Subject: Re: x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 problem/question.=0D To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <497B5890.9050309@gmail.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D Lowell Gilbert wrote:=0D > Jimmie James writes:=0D >=0D >> While it looks like it install/runs fine (i.e, linux-flash9 works,=0D >> skype works) the following error is show=0D >> (process:47722): GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown=0D >> user id (0)=0D >>=0D >> Following this advice, all I could find,=0D >> http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=3Dfreebsd-emulation&a=3D2005-11&t=3D15068= 33=0D >> The fix is, to tell /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to look at NIS too= =2E=0D >> Is UID 0 in your /etc/passwd? Can you try changeing=0D >> /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to something like this:=0D >>=0D >> passwd: files nisplus nis=0D >> shadow: files nisplus nis=0D >> group: files nisplus nis=0D >>=0D >> Uid 0 is in my /etc/passwd, there's no /compat/linux/etc/passwd., and=0D >> changing /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf to read the same doesn't fix=0D >> the error message.=0D >>=0D >> Advice, suggestions?=0D >=0D > Those setting for nsswitch.conf don't look right to me.=0D > There should have been a message printed out when you installed one of=0D > the linux_base ports, telling you how to configure it.=0D > I think the fc4 version is the default these days; if that is what you=0D > are using, the message is in the file=0D > /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4/pkg-message=0D =0D =0D =0D You're right, missed the message during the install, scrolled off=0D screen. Following the pkg-message in=0D /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8/pkg-message and reinstalling=0D linux-gtk2-2.6.10_1 still gives me the same message.=0D =0D I knew I forgot something with the original message.=0D =0D FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 6 03:43:02 EST 2009=0D jimmie@fortytwo.zapto.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO=0D =0D linux-atk-1.9.1_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary=0D linux-cairo-1.0.2 Linux cairo binary=0D linux-expat-1.95.8 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library=0D linux-flashplugin-9.0r152 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin=0D linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig=0D linux-gspca-kmod-1.0.20 A port of the linux gspcav1 webcam driver=0D =0D *** linux-gtk2-2.6.10_1 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary ***=0D What's giving me the error.=0D =0D linux-jpeg-6b.34 RPM of the JPEG lib=0D linux-kmod-compat-20080408 Adaptation layer to build linux drivers on=0D FreeBSD=0D linux-libsigc-2.0.17 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version)=0D linux-openssl-0.9.7f SSL and crypto library (Linux Version)=0D linux-pango-1.10.2_1 Linux pango binary=0D linux-png-1.2.8_2 RPM of the PNG lib=0D linux-tiff-3.7.1 TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary=0D linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries=0D =0D *** linux_base-f8-8_10 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for=0D i386/amd64)*** emulators/linux_base-f8=0D =0D linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware=0D acceleration of=0D linuxdoc-1.1_1 The Linuxdoc SGML DTD=0D lirc-0.8.0_2 Linux Infared Remote Control=0D sgmlformat-1.7_2 Generates groff and HTML from linuxdoc and docbook=0D SGML doc=0D v4l_compat-1.0.20060801 Video4Linux compatibility header=0D =0D --=0D Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met.=0D =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 21=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:57:26 +0100=0D From: Pojken Purken =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID: <497B5686.8050600@pp.dyndns.biz>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D RW wrote:=0D > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:27:02 +0100=0D > Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote:=0D >=0D >=0D >> The section "options enabled" will list them all. I usually only add=0D >> "-march=3Dnative" to my CFLAGS to enable a few more CPU specific=0D >> optimizations.=0D >=0D > If you set CPUTYPE, -march is set to match, so setting -march=3Dnative=0D > should be redundant. OTOH a number of other make variables are defined=0D > from CPUTYPE, so if you set -march=3Dnative, but not CPUTYPE you might= =0D > miss some optimisations based on build options.=0D >=0D > I've no idea whether there are any such options, just that you're=0D > probably not going to do better than setting CPUTYPE, and leaving the=0D > rest alone.=0D =0D I'm sorry I was unclear. I set CPUTYPE to native of course which is then=0D passed as -march=3Dnative to compiler.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 22=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:32:54 -0600 (CST)=0D From: "Doug Poland" =0D Subject: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions.=0D To: questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID:=0D =0D Content-Type: text/plain;charset=3Diso-8859-1=0D =0D Hello,=0D =0D I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD (6.3, 7.0) on=0D different architectures (i386, SPARC64).=0D =0D What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all machines, but=0D preserving ports/packages for each version/architecture. I also want=0D to make rebuilding indexes run as fast as possible.=0D =0D Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3. The problem=0D comes in with INDEX files and packages. Indexes get updated only when=0D the host serving the export updates the hierarchy via portsnap update.=0D If I create a package on SPARC64 and the package exists already for=0D an i386 build, then I've got an issue.=0D =0D Can someone point me to a doc/google/man page that may give me some=0D guidance in setting up such an environment?=0D =0D =0D =0D --=0D Regards,=0D Doug=0D =0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 23=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:07:57 +0000=0D From: Saifi Khan =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: Pojken Purken =0D Cc: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID:=0D <9a52b1190901241107h5bff8c1al6c980b7ad8e99051@mail.gmail.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Pojken Purken wrote:=0D > RW wrote:=0D >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:27:02 +0100=0D >> Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote:=0D >>=0D >>=0D >>> The section "options enabled" will list them all. I usually only add=0D >>> "-march=3Dnative" to my CFLAGS to enable a few more CPU specific=0D >>> optimizations.=0D >>=0D >> If you set CPUTYPE, -march is set to match, so setting -march=3Dnative= =0D >> should be redundant. OTOH a number of other make variables are defined= =0D >> from CPUTYPE, so if you set -march=3Dnative, but not CPUTYPE you migh= t=0D >> miss some optimisations based on build options.=0D >>=0D >> I've no idea whether there are any such options, just that you're=0D >> probably not going to do better than setting CPUTYPE, and leaving the=0D >> rest alone.=0D >=0D > I'm sorry I was unclear. I set CPUTYPE to native of course which is the= n=0D > passed as -march=3Dnative to compiler.=0D >=0D =0D The entry in file /var/run/dmesg.boot shows the CPU information as=0D CPU: Intel (R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.40 GHz (686-class CPU)=0D =0D The entry in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf shows CPU types for Intel = as=0D core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott pentium3m pentium3 pentium-= m=0D pentium2 pentiumpro pentium-mx pentium i486 i386=0D =0D What would be the appropriate CPUTYPE specification in this case ?=0D =0D Is there any table which sort of maps the marketing names of the Intel processor=0D with the CPU information shown in dmesg ?=0D =0D --=0D thanks=0D Saifi.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 24=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:13:00 +0100=0D From: Morgan Wesstr?m =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID: <497B764C.4080109@pp.dyndns.biz>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D =0D =0D Saifi Khan wrote:=0D > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Pojken Purken wrote= :=0D >> RW wrote:=0D >>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:27:02 +0100=0D >>> Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote:=0D >>>=0D >>>=0D >>>> The section "options enabled" will list them all. I usually only add= =0D >>>> "-march=3Dnative" to my CFLAGS to enable a few more CPU specific=0D >>>> optimizations.=0D >>> If you set CPUTYPE, -march is set to match, so setting -march=3Dnativ= e=0D >>> should be redundant. OTOH a number of other make variables are define= d=0D >>> from CPUTYPE, so if you set -march=3Dnative, but not CPUTYPE you mig= ht=0D >>> miss some optimisations based on build options.=0D >>>=0D >>> I've no idea whether there are any such options, just that you're=0D >>> probably not going to do better than setting CPUTYPE, and leaving the= =0D >>> rest alone.=0D >> I'm sorry I was unclear. I set CPUTYPE to native of course which is th= en=0D >> passed as -march=3Dnative to compiler.=0D >>=0D >=0D > The entry in file /var/run/dmesg.boot shows the CPU information as=0D > CPU: Intel (R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.40 GHz (686-class CPU)=0D >=0D > The entry in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf shows CPU types for Inte= l as=0D > core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott pentium3m pentium3 pentiu= m-m=0D > pentium2 pentiumpro pentium-mx pentium i486 i386=0D >=0D > What would be the appropriate CPUTYPE specification in this case ?=0D >=0D > Is there any table which sort of maps the marketing names of the Intel processor=0D > with the CPU information shown in dmesg ?=0D >=0D =0D gcc 4.2 and later will figure out the correct -march and -mtune for you=0D automatically if you use CPUTYPE=3Dnative. How it does it in detail can b= e=0D seen in its source code but basically it's decided by checking=0D manufacturer, cpu family and whether sse2 and sse3 support is present.=0D Your processor is most likely a prescott and you can see what gcc=0D selects by running the compilation example from my previous post. The=0D choice shows up in its output.=0D /Morgan=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 25=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:33:02 +0100 (CET)=0D From: Wojciech Puchar =0D Subject: Re: Registry corrupt?=0D To: "Jack L. Stone" =0D Cc: cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <20090124213215.P42124@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>=0D Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D >>>>>> Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given = the=0D >>>>>> precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several but not = all=0D >>>>>> programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvs= up)=0D >>>>>> withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.=0D >>>>=0D >>=0D >=0D > BTW2: Yes, I do know this isn't windows and doesn't have a "registry" p= er=0D > se in that regard, but "something" does keep track of the programs=0D =0D package manages has it's database in /var/db/pkg=0D =0D but it's COMPLETELY different that registry. it only keep track of packag= e=0D files etc.=0D =0D > installed and I've never located that place/file/db not having a crucia= l=0D > reason to before.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 26=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:34:24 -0700=0D From: Tim Judd =0D Subject: Re: how to scrollback in terminal=0D To: Saifi Khan =0D Cc: Dan Nelson ,=0D freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <497B7B50.6020201@gmail.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D Saifi Khan wrote:=0D > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Dan Nelson wrote:=0D >> In the last episode (Jan 24), Tim Judd said:=0D >>> Saifi Khan wrote:=0D >>>> i'd like to scrollback on the multi page output on the terminal in=0D >>>> FreeBSD 7.1=0D >>>>=0D >>>> SHIFT key + Pg Up doesn't seem to work.=0D >>>>=0D >>>> Can somebody post how to scrollback in terminal ?=0D >>> scroll lock, and pgup=0D >> After you hit scroll-lock, up/down/pgup/pgdn/home/end all work, you ca= n=0D >> copy and paste the history text with your mouse, and there's a separat= e=0D >> history per VTY. You can also set the number of scrollback lines with= =0D >> the "vidcontrol -n ###" command. Significantly better than Linux's=0D >> scrollback...=0D >>=0D >> --=0D >> Dan Nelson=0D >> dnelson@allantgroup.com=0D >=0D > Thank you Tim and Dan for helping me out.=0D >=0D > The BSD model is more logical and straightforward.=0D >=0D =0D Yes it is. As you get into BSD more, you'll find it makes more logical=0D sense to stick with it, over Linux. Welcome to the group.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 27=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:39:12 -0700=0D From: Tim Judd =0D Subject: Re: Registry corrupt?=0D To: "Jack L. Stone" =0D Cc: cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <497B7C70.2010508@gmail.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D Jack L. Stone wrote:=0D > At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote:=0D >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:=0D >>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone=0D > wrote:=0D >>>> During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 --> fbsd-7.0, something strange happened.=0D >>>> Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when given th= e=0D >>>> precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several but not al= l=0D >>>> programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source files -- cvsup= )=0D >>>> withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine.=0D >> Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those=0D >> programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports.=0D >>=0D >> You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's=0D >> assume that you have zip installed:=0D >>=0D >> $ ldd /usr/local/bin/zip=0D >> /usr/local/bin/zip:=0D >> libbz2.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libbz2.so.3 (0x80065c000)=0D >> libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80076c000)=0D >>=0D >=0D > Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't run:=0D > ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup=0D > ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable=0D >=0D > BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still giv= es=0D > this error:=0D > /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found=0D >=0D > Yes, I did re-install the port too. No dice.=0D >=0D > Again MOST all programs run except for this one and maybe a couple othe= rs=0D > that may be causing buildworld to fail.=0D >=0D > Strange!=0D >=0D > Jack=0D >=0D > (^_^)=0D > Happy trails,=0D > Jack L. Stone=0D >=0D > System Admin=0D > Sage-american=0D =0D is the shebang line invalid?=0D head -1 /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup=0D =0D and see if the program on that line is truly on your system:=0D ls -lF =0D =0D The error above makes it look like it's the command line that's missing,=0D but the shell will use the command line argument when the interpreter is=0D missing.=0D =0D Good luck!=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 28=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:28:07 -0700=0D From: Tim Judd =0D Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap=0D To: Kris Kennaway =0D Cc: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <497B87E7.6020601@gmail.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D Kris Kennaway wrote:=0D > Dieter wrote:=0D >> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory=0D >>=0D >> My console says:=0D >>=0D >> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22,=0D >> size: 4096=0D >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096=0D >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096=0D >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096=0D >>=0D >> pstat -sk=0D >> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity=0D >> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0%=0D >>=0D >> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related=0D >> complaints in dmesg.=0D >>=0D >> Is this something to worry about?=0D >=0D > Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing=0D > so.=0D >=0D > Kris=0D > _______________________________________________=0D > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0D > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0D > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=0D > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0D isn't swapspace supposed to be on a 'b' partition? Are you using swap=0D on a slice 10? how is that possible when the i386/amd64 BIOS can't see=0D more than 4 primary partitions?=0D =0D Kris, would you mind giving input to this? How can there be a s10, and=0D how can you add swapspace to a device that isn't a partition 'b' nor a=0D file backed swapspace? Those were the only two ways I thought was=0D supported for swap.=0D =0D Dieter, does my questions above sound to be a correct interpretation of=0D your disk setup?=0D =0D =0D thanks!=0D =0D --Tim=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 29=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:50:02 +0000=0D From: RW =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <20090124215002.6a0bf24e@gumby.homeunix.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:13:00 +0100=0D Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote:=0D =0D > gcc 4.2 and later will figure out the correct -march and -mtune for=0D > you automatically if you use CPUTYPE=3Dnative.=0D =0D The point I was making before, is that CPUTYPE isn't just passed=0D transparently to gcc, it's used for setting other variables, such as=0D CFLAGS. So unless you know that CPUTYPE=3Dnative is supported by the OS a= s=0D well as the compiler, you probably shouldn't use it in make.conf.=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 30=0D Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:42:30 +1000=0D From: Warren Liddell =0D Subject: Re: mounting Nokia N95=0D To: Ramiro Caso =0D Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <497B9956.6030805@maydias.com>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D What about this? Try in /usr/ports:=0D >=0D > # make print-index=0D > # make search key=3Dmobile=0D >=0D =0D Thanks for the info .. will give some a try and see how it goes :)=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 31=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:44:51 +0100=0D From: Morgan Wesstr?m =0D Subject: Re: default CFLAGS=0D To: FreeBSD Questions =0D Message-ID: <497B99E3.7010901@pp.dyndns.biz>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0D =0D RW wrote:=0D > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:13:00 +0100=0D > Morgan Wesstr=F6m wrote:=0D >=0D >> gcc 4.2 and later will figure out the correct -march and -mtune for=0D >> you automatically if you use CPUTYPE=3Dnative.=0D >=0D > The point I was making before, is that CPUTYPE isn't just passed=0D > transparently to gcc, it's used for setting other variables, such as=0D > CFLAGS. So unless you know that CPUTYPE=3Dnative is supported by the OS= as=0D > well as the compiler, you probably shouldn't use it in make.conf.=0D =0D I got that point. As with all tuning you always take the risk of=0D breaking something but that is a personal choice. From my own experience=0D I prefer that the compiler choses the optimizations.=0D I don't know about the base OS but a quick grep through /usr/ports only=0D reveals 5 or 6 ports that actually checks CPUTYPE and they don't do much=0D more than setting -march=3D{$CPUTYPE} which is pretty redundant.=0D =0D Regards=0D Morgan=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D Message: 32=0D Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:45:31 +0000=0D From: Kris Kennaway =0D Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap=0D To: Tim Judd =0D Cc: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0D Message-ID: <497B9A0B.50305@FreeBSD.org>=0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0D =0D Tim Judd wrote:=0D > Kris Kennaway wrote:=0D >> Dieter wrote:=0D >>> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory=0D >>>=0D >>> My console says:=0D >>>=0D >>> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22,=0D >>> size: 4096=0D >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096=0D >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096=0D >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096=0D >>>=0D >>> pstat -sk=0D >>> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity=0D >>> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0%=0D >>>=0D >>> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related=0D >>> complaints in dmesg.=0D >>>=0D >>> Is this something to worry about?=0D >>=0D >> Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing= =0D >> so.=0D >>=0D >> Kris=0D >> _______________________________________________=0D >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0D >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0D >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to=0D >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0D > isn't swapspace supposed to be on a 'b' partition? Are you using swap=0D > on a slice 10? how is that possible when the i386/amd64 BIOS can't see= =0D > more than 4 primary partitions?=0D >=0D > Kris, would you mind giving input to this? How can there be a s10, and= =0D > how can you add swapspace to a device that isn't a partition 'b' nor a=0D > file backed swapspace? Those were the only two ways I thought was=0D > supported for swap.=0D >=0D > Dieter, does my questions above sound to be a correct interpretation of= =0D > your disk setup?=0D =0D swap can be put anywhere thesedays (post-FreeBSD 4.x), even on things=0D that are not even simple disk devices.=0D =0D Kris=0D =0D =0D ------------------------------=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0D http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0D To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg"=0D =0D End of freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 51=0D **************************************************=0D =0D ____________________________________________________________=0D =0D No virus found in this incoming message.=0D Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=0D Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: 1/24/20= 09 8:40 PM=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_UYM1MY50000000000000-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 20:43:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A149E106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380EC8FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAHANhWfEnUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACMfwG9AoVL Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 20:14:47 +0000 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1LRBNW-0003vj-TU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:14:47 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRBNW-0000rj-8B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:14:46 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline From: Mike Clarke Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:14:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200901252014.46212.mike@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 28c926f596a114bf7f4a7cf8219efa0c Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:43:33 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009, Josh Carroll wrote: > For (supported) AMD processors, check out k8temp(4). That gives very odd results for me: curlew:/home/mike% sudo k8temp CPU 0 Core 0 Sensor 0: 13c CPU 0 Core 0 Sensor 1: 11c CPU 0 Core 1 Sensor 0: 19c CPU 0 Core 1 Sensor 1: 2c Those are all well below room temperature! But ... curlew:/home/mike% sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 28.0C Which is just a bit below the temperature reported by the BIOS (31C) when I rebooted about 30 minutes ago. I have powerd running and it's pulled the CPU frequency down from 2500 to 1000. Turning off powerd pushes the temperature up to 30C. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 20:46:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AB6106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331F48FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so6057296wfg.7 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:46:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eq7+RcP5eC77+gvRHQI0lqQbyQjRjnb2Wpj4Q5V1wAw=; b=rimI9q+eBdVZ8aeyA39DPFweVMoWAwiw07N9LImcrrjKlDGdlg4DgeOfG0EINpacnb ytL1+UfI0BJA6DJIpuPly+Cp7mmU3cMKKXa0UgNwrFcWnrYFvRctCNHkVZ/bpCh7KtnU c3eJn74L6IQkQRqyxhE2ZcBXHIEcyq/hYEZyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DYH/0Vi3jGU/uJEZ3t+QHygwsDZW4J+hVYNyJ6FZwSb9ARU09i4Nm/3p9HAIb+MWWl IVj4Bh9E3lvfPlNuA+UtOzz+w78BmnPPe5MwpI3qKVoFuaBKqc60uli9E507oqejMfWp C5R1L4z9ArZc4PnilgbDvxQG/SzqfMTwsOkVQ= Received: by 10.142.48.14 with SMTP id v14mr972673wfv.122.1232915076990; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm28115215wfd.44.2009.01.25.12.24.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497CCA77.5060005@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:24:23 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: snd_hda no sound; device hints question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:46:02 -0000 I have the snd_hda driver which creates /dev/dsp0.0 and /dev/sndstat but I get no sound when I do cat /bin/sh > /dev/dsp0.0. I know I need to change device hints etc. but I'm not sure to which ones. /dev/sndstat attached with verbose level 3 FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) [pcm0:play:dsp0.p0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x10000010, flags 0x00101000, 0x00000020 interrupts 218, underruns 0, feed 218, ready 0 [b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2] {userland} -> feeder_vchan(0x10000010) -> feeder_volume(0x10000010) -> {hardware} pcm0:play:dsp0.p0[pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vp0]: spd 8000/48000, fmt 0x00000008/0x10000010, flags 0x10000000, 0x00000008 interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:4096/128/32] {userland} -> feeder_root(0x00000008) -> feeder_8to16(0x00000008 -> 0x00000080) -> feeder_rate(8000 -> 48000) -> feeder_monotostereo16(0x00000080 -> 0x10000080) -> feeder_sign16(0x10000080 -> 0x10000010) -> {hardware} [pcm0:record:dsp0.r0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x10000010, flags 0x00101000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, overruns 0, feed 0, hfree 4096, sfree 4096 [b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2] {hardware} -> feeder_root(0x10000010) -> feeder_vchan(0x10000010) -> {userland} pcm0:record:dsp0.r0[pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vr0]: spd 0, fmt 0x00000000/0x00000008, flags 0x10000000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, overruns 0, feed 0, hfree 0, sfree 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:0/0/0] {hardware} -> feeder_root(0x00000000) -> {userland} pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex) [pcm1:play:dsp1.p0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x10000010, flags 0x00101000, 0x00000020 interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2] {userland} -> feeder_vchan(0x10000010) -> feeder_volume(0x10000010) -> {hardware} pcm1:play:dsp1.p0[pcm1:virtual:dsp1.vp0]: spd 0, fmt 0x00000000/0x00000008, flags 0x10000000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:0/0/0] {userland} -> feeder_root(0x00000000) -> {hardware} [pcm1:record:dsp1.r0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x10000010, flags 0x00101000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, overruns 0, feed 0, hfree 4096, sfree 4096 [b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2] {hardware} -> feeder_root(0x10000010) -> feeder_vchan(0x10000010) -> {userland} pcm1:record:dsp1.r0[pcm1:virtual:dsp1.vr0]: spd 0, fmt 0x00000000/0x00000008, flags 0x10000000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, overruns 0, feed 0, hfree 0, sfree 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:0/0/0] {hardware} -> feeder_root(0x00000000) -> {userland} pcm2: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels) [pcm2:play:dsp2.p0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x10000010, flags 0x00101000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:4096/2048/2|bs:4096/2048/2] {userland} -> feeder_vchan(0x10000010) -> {hardware} pcm2:play:dsp2.p0[pcm2:virtual:dsp2.vp0]: spd 0, fmt 0x00000000/0x00000008, flags 0x10000000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, underruns 0, feed 0, ready 0 [b:0/0/0|bs:0/0/0] {userland} -> feeder_root(0x00000000) -> {hardware} File Versions: $FreeBSD$ $FreeBSD$ -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 21:24:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1A6106568A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936158FC1C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00219257AB6; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:33 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: TZYCMdgV3r5Z2SIJj6NOWdqKFGPmY0XLQdYhFPXG316C 1232918071 Received: from roadrash.tcbug.org (ip70-181-6-240.ri.ri.cox.net [70.181.6.240]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B21A10E6E; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <497CD636.6020906@tcbug.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:30 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Omer Faruk Sen References: <75a268720901251042p67515b92kda61bc875dcdab97@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <75a268720901251042p67515b92kda61bc875dcdab97@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atacontrol software or hardware raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh@tcbug.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:24:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Omer Faruk Sen wrote: > How can I detect if system has Software or hardware raid? Since in manual page: > > The atacontrol command can also be used to create purely software RAID > arrays in systems that do NOT have a "real" hardware RAID card such as a > Highpoint or Promise card. A common scenario is a 1U server such as the > HP DL320 G4 or G5. These servers contain a SATA controller that has 2 > channels that can contain 2 disks per channel, but the servers are wired > to only place a single SATA drive on each channel. > > Or how can I find out if the hardware is "real" hardware RAID card? > For example my system has following dmesg output: > > ad4: 152627MB at ata2-master SATA300 > ad6: 152627MB at ata3-master SATA300 > ar0: 152625MB status: READY > ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad6 at ata3-master > ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad4 at ata2-master > > This system is an intel server with S3210SH server board in it. While > installing system I see ad4,ad6 and ar0 as harddrives in sysinstall. I > choose to install ar0. > > Additionally as far as I see ar0 is very susceptible to errors since a > single CRC error can break the RAID consistency is that normal? I > really appreciate those who uses such a kind of RAID1 > > Regards. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ar RAID devices are almost always software/BIOS RAID. In this case intel matrix raid is software RAID provided by the system BIOS. The disadvantages of using it is your RAID array isn't portable to machines that don't have the same BIOS raid implimentation. One of the advantages of BIOS RAID is that you can boot from stripes, which you aren't doing anyways. You'll probably find that disabling the motherboard RAID and creating a gmirror device is a better option for software RAID 1. - -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5ABC 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkl81jYACgkQJvkB8Sevrsu1swCcCCq6/cG0WYajBvutibgvhIaA kn8An27y/SPbEKzRyaWntfZV95z/UJia =k2Gx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 21:24:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99101065687 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8B48FC1D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD36257B1A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:38 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: wvO//LaNm9QNSakd8QurtCx0egEj/Hg4dd8lzoC6T8ZN 1232918078 Received: from roadrash.tcbug.org (ip70-181-6-240.ri.ri.cox.net [70.181.6.240]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 090282DAFD; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <497CD63D.8010308@tcbug.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:14:37 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Omer Faruk Sen References: <75a268720901251042p67515b92kda61bc875dcdab97@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <75a268720901251042p67515b92kda61bc875dcdab97@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atacontrol software or hardware raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh@tcbug.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:24:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Omer Faruk Sen wrote: > How can I detect if system has Software or hardware raid? Since in manual page: > > The atacontrol command can also be used to create purely software RAID > arrays in systems that do NOT have a "real" hardware RAID card such as a > Highpoint or Promise card. A common scenario is a 1U server such as the > HP DL320 G4 or G5. These servers contain a SATA controller that has 2 > channels that can contain 2 disks per channel, but the servers are wired > to only place a single SATA drive on each channel. > > Or how can I find out if the hardware is "real" hardware RAID card? > For example my system has following dmesg output: > > ad4: 152627MB at ata2-master SATA300 > ad6: 152627MB at ata3-master SATA300 > ar0: 152625MB status: READY > ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad6 at ata3-master > ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad4 at ata2-master > > This system is an intel server with S3210SH server board in it. While > installing system I see ad4,ad6 and ar0 as harddrives in sysinstall. I > choose to install ar0. > > Additionally as far as I see ar0 is very susceptible to errors since a > single CRC error can break the RAID consistency is that normal? I > really appreciate those who uses such a kind of RAID1 > > Regards. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ar RAID devices are almost always software/BIOS RAID. In this case intel matrix raid is software RAID provided by the system BIOS. The disadvantages of using it is your RAID array isn't portable to machines that don't have the same BIOS raid implimentation. One of the advantages of BIOS RAID is that you can boot from stripes, which you aren't doing anyways. You'll probably find that disabling the motherboard RAID and creating a gmirror device is a better option for software RAID 1. - -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5ABC 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkl81jYACgkQJvkB8Sevrsu1swCcCCq6/cG0WYajBvutibgvhIaA kn8An27y/SPbEKzRyaWntfZV95z/UJia =k2Gx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 21:43:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D67106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2448FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B6336B06; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:43:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:44:57 +0100 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: dougb@FreeBSD.org Subject: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:43:24 -0000 To build ports in parallel on a 4 core machine, I usually do this manually: # cd /usr/ports/some/port # make configure && make -j5 build && make install clean because all steps except "make build" are not compatible with -jN (some ports don't work with -jN in the "make build" phase either, but they are quite rare). Now, is there a way to teach portmaster to build or rebuild ports this way? The only workaround for now is something like: # cd /usr/ports/some/port # make configure && make -j5 build # portmaster -b -d -C which doesn't clean up some/port/work before building, thus using the manual parallel step before. So, how can portmaster run 'make -jN build' instead of simple 'make build'? (I know about portmaster's -m option, but passing -jN to it won't work, as it would also try to apply this to other phases than "make build"). Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 21:48:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4873106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF0A8FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PLlvBD045499; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:47:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PLlsV2045496; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:47:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:47:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <497CD636.6020906@tcbug.org> Message-ID: <20090125224726.W45483@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <75a268720901251042p67515b92kda61bc875dcdab97@mail.gmail.com> <497CD636.6020906@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Omer Faruk Sen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atacontrol software or hardware raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:48:12 -0000 > > ar RAID devices are almost always software/BIOS RAID. In this case > intel matrix raid is software RAID provided by the system BIOS. The it's always better to use gmirror. not mentioning more flexibility (you do not have to mirror whole drives) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:04:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFD4106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from cf.bluelight.org.uk (bluelight.org.uk [80.229.144.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D0D8FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from [192.168.2.138] by cf.bluelight.org.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRD6B-00092b-7B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:05:00 +0000 Message-ID: <497CE20E.6040300@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:05:02 +0000 From: Terry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090125203150.5A308106566B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090125203150.5A308106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "cf.bluelight.org.uk", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I am trying to upgrade from 7.0-STABLE to 7.1 Release. I used RELENG_7_1 as my cvsup tag. But no matter what I try I get error's during make buildworld [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Subject: Re:Buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:04:59 -0000 I am trying to upgrade from 7.0-STABLE to 7.1 Release. I used RELENG_7_1 as my cvsup tag. But no matter what I try I get error's during make buildworld ------------------------------------------------------- /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/sched-ebb.c: In function 'schedule_ebbs': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/sched-ebb.c:542: internal compiler error: in find_idf, at tree-into-ssa.c:1040 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int. *** Error code 1 ------------------------------------------------------ I did read on google that one person got around it by installing ccache but it didnt work for me also the error is not all ways the same -------------------------------------------------- /include -c asn1_HostAddress.c -o asn1_HostAddress.So asn1_HostAddress.c: In function 'decode_HostAddress': asn1_HostAddress.c:52: internal compiler error: in find_idf, at tree-into-ssa.c:1040 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libasn1. ------------------------------------------------- The machine runs fine and ports build with no problems. Any info welcome Forgot to mention I have tried the steps in the handbook # chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr # rm -rf /usr/obj/usr # cd /usr/src # make cleandir # make cleandir Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:10:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985261065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekar2009@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f33.google.com (mail-gx0-f33.google.com [209.85.217.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C508FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekar2009@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so2867607gxk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:10:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eDu1/lg6LlDaG14yOOtB3Ypwwj1XS1X0t/qoyZ2+8wY=; b=KIQzQVu2dXoe+Md07l2504BaXHHb5uWamAwX4oh2syq30MCbjPe2gtm9pvp8DdSIDS cbLMDWDaskkMA47lNG0tPZ+1Sa/mKrSprucxmg1jJt7FzRvyGLfqlkI3D1PKhYMKY8Fk 4sUJLLEbtAMYugmiAQ+vTtRCggPYfslWWKcb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Q7Oqm9ZHbmdc5GXf7whivdv+hgms2eR2PbQ1zRVV6e1Mo+FxTkdtAM460bhtO4pDdn EQF4bCd6iduv3v+APXha4/SRctGlxO7uIMdhFzyFviPp/brbb/iNUfNokeid0fYRTinX zA08ZV4pChBg5yj5UBXmZiIRRg5/4ypSbIVSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.101.20 with SMTP id d20mr144518ybm.75.1232920305820; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:51:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:51:45 +0200 Message-ID: <700ff07a0901251351t629b9606g260447b4cbaef00b@mail.gmail.com> From: Alex Karpovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hex editors, disk info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:10:22 -0000 Friends, I need a hex editor able to work directly with disks, preferably those, which can be started without X. I tried hexcurse, chexedit, bpatch - and it seems that they are unable to open /dev/something. Also, I would like to know about a tool to show low-level disk information. For example, how can I see a number of sectors available? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:22:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD321065688 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2118FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so25652fxm.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:22:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cQZr+a2Sy2pC0KZxpK16UYxyERxNiN4bD3CuU/7X3oA=; b=g44o4GuGGBFv5VwiAkFXgjOyZQs4AMF4cniD9Qqu8I2YgJqBN2FKGuIHg1LYN7Jdin t+Vz74vtsXcMcC/aHUbBxeO+7rDOj44Hm6ZWfS8FaX1QtsCZOXvk9JDr0Ba2KwFiW4ie EnqGZUvVKUdWzmNm21IobhTIxSCNTBc/LHQMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u4xVoCNVDHJuIZT/xsVv7JRLgEgefGFDCUTskhBiIp6aWwhmfVpuku7M1lsFiM24NN jsPXMJts906YfpfA3uAItLliPMriJsBwrMhdoIR/Zzjew1F2u3PZrqvBEzFgfxRkVD9G jCvWJhaRxIF3vfOnbdH1l/mU9uw124Iwg1Mr4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.92.10 with SMTP id u10mr3799432mul.22.1232922124951; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:22:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> From: Josh Carroll To: cpghost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dougb@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:22:07 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:44 PM, cpghost wrote: > To build ports in parallel on a 4 core machine, I usually > do this manually: > > # cd /usr/ports/some/port > # make configure && make -j5 build && make install clean > > because all steps except "make build" are not compatible > with -jN (some ports don't work with -jN in the "make build" > phase either, but they are quite rare). > > Now, is there a way to teach portmaster to build or rebuild > ports this way? The only workaround for now is something > like: What I do is the following via make.conf, which will work for portmaster/portupgrade or manual builds: # set MAKE_ARGS for the build target(s) .if !(make(*install) || make(package)) MAKE_ARGS+=-j8 .endif Then as you find ports that don't build properly, add an entry like this: # some ports don't like -j8, so we can undo the MAKE_ARGS addition for those .if ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/mplayer} MAKE_ARGS:=${MAKE_ARGS:C/-j8//} .endif It's a bit of a hack, but I've had decent success with this. Enough ports fail to build with -jX, that I'd never do the above on a production machine, especially since it's possible for some sort of silent error that produces an unpredictable binary. But for my home machine, I've been pretty happy with it. Regards, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:25:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0F5106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E697C8FC42 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.195] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A225C2E5C2; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:26:24 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20090125185736.D44868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> <20090125185736.D44868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:25:24 +1000 Message-Id: <1232922324.32181.1.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lawrence Auster , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:25:04 -0000 On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 18:57 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zionist mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy > > that Obama is President of the USA? > > by David Duke > because he use FreeBSD? ROFL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:35:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E212F1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705EC8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so27593fxm.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:35:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ASKQNMDTQ69C6BJuUziNyinOpa6xeO6nzZ0yihFLuYM=; b=OxOfxxfOcLl4J/0C0XVCLEdO3g3OqsXktZFwWAYbfF4e0ZTuzJ0Qn1nED0/4KG8RD4 T3CEBFe8RPeVrz8b26F32Az5/RDqI6ANQq/CjcfSNCwihbBajTMaUkptXw4+PjfyoTYc cDM6vLjYFwItMtiugNlsTWSj6GjwxpDS+qC+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BnfUGjre7cs+bdqRqemqtYY6kzXL6Dvk8xU22wbIjMQ2oEbZpJvHQVl0NUEIguNRil 0HO9lVCvQ+RcDwlcGH4665as/Ozh1uatHHBHlVOEBhrsCK4fa2/5yOpUrK/tXAy/QCxe 14ETmV/kGRQxW7bfc3DfKtJvsrtjjmxPMeNSA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.3 with SMTP id l3mr28530fap.48.1232922931477; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:35:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <320685273-1232899457-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1217896543-@bxe1008.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <320685273-1232899457-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1217896543-@bxe1008.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:35:31 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310901251435t1f4b23f2u2b341669755c4a6b@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:35:33 -0000 > Why don't you bring your hatred outta here. This is a family-oriented channel. > > Next time, even when you put OOT label on subject, I still will call it crap. > > If you name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. > Mark it as spam and move on. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:38:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40450106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0AB58FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.72] (93-97-24-219.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.24.219]) by smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BEE98004; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:38:28 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <497CE9E4.3030005@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:38:28 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Clarke References: <200901252014.46212.mike@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200901252014.46212.mike@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:38:31 -0000 Mike Clarke wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009, Josh Carroll wrote: > >> For (supported) AMD processors, check out k8temp(4). > > That gives very odd results for me: > > curlew:/home/mike% sudo k8temp > CPU 0 Core 0 Sensor 0: 13c > CPU 0 Core 0 Sensor 1: 11c > CPU 0 Core 1 Sensor 0: 19c > CPU 0 Core 1 Sensor 1: 2c > > Those are all well below room temperature! > > But ... > > curlew:/home/mike% sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 28.0C > > Which is just a bit below the temperature reported by the BIOS (31C) > when I rebooted about 30 minutes ago. I have powerd running and it's > pulled the CPU frequency down from 2500 to 1000. Turning off powerd > pushes the temperature up to 30C. > It works for me, I ran it and sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature every 2 seconds in a while loop and cpu temperatures follow cpu activity closely and change in 1deg steps between about 25deg and 42deg. When I rebooted and checked temperature in the BIOS it was pretty much the same as what k8temp was saying just previously. hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature is fixed on 40deg even with high cpu activity. Maybe your processor is not supported? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:45:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04CE106564A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DA48FC08; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D1636A92; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:45:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:46:54 +0100 From: cpghost To: Josh Carroll Message-ID: <20090125224654.GB4568@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: dougb@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:45:42 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 05:22:04PM -0500, Josh Carroll wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:44 PM, cpghost wrote: > > To build ports in parallel on a 4 core machine, I usually > > do this manually: > > > > # cd /usr/ports/some/port > > # make configure && make -j5 build && make install clean > > > > because all steps except "make build" are not compatible > > with -jN (some ports don't work with -jN in the "make build" > > phase either, but they are quite rare). > > > > Now, is there a way to teach portmaster to build or rebuild > > ports this way? The only workaround for now is something > > like: > > What I do is the following via make.conf, which will work for > portmaster/portupgrade or manual builds: > > # set MAKE_ARGS for the build target(s) > .if !(make(*install) || make(package)) > MAKE_ARGS+=-j8 > .endif > > Then as you find ports that don't build properly, add an entry like this: > > # some ports don't like -j8, so we can undo the MAKE_ARGS addition for those > .if ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/mplayer} > MAKE_ARGS:=${MAKE_ARGS:C/-j8//} > .endif That's a good hint indeed. I'll try it. Maybe I'll modify it a bit to include ONLY the "build" target, because -jN fails on nearly every other target, AFAICS. > It's a bit of a hack, but I've had decent success with this. Enough > ports fail to build with -jX, that I'd never do the above on a > production machine, especially since it's possible for some sort of > silent error that produces an unpredictable binary. But for my home > machine, I've been pretty happy with it. Yes, that's true, and it could happen. But I don't remember having had a port compile, yet silently fail, yet. (*knocking-on-wood*). ;) > Regards, > Josh Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:54:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C896E1065677 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail46.e.nsc.no (mail46.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BE88FC20 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [62.16.178.235] (062016178235.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.178.235]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail46.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id n0PMsSEe002539; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:54:28 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <497CFB80.70800@next.online.no> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:53:36 +0000 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Clarke References: <1232911389.00066065.1232901002@10.7.7.3> <1232918584.00066087.1232907002@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1232918584.00066087.1232907002@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:54:33 -0000 Mike Clarke wrote: > But I get sensible looking results for my Athlon 64 X2 4850e with the > following command: > > sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature For some reason it works on your 4850e. But for some of us this command does not work. It never reports anything but 40 C on my Athlon 64 X2 6000+. sysutils/k8temp, however, reports 20 C /28 C. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 22:55:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13171065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801438FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so2463478fka.11 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:55:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hsAinH2/dAoKdHNu9FSb8TqXGvKtQ/xkdygD3+GHBlY=; b=U2FNSDTXrgYnbf5FIyESAx448xmIMtPfdAUamkbhIY7l0pT1dqfVQL1JEFkxtp5HAm T1VKkNDNXkRCmU+TLWHap50RaI6XIpAdL81nG9wK3A9fRxXYagO2mrmzoyPQtzxeEK/F lNzr1klOiTAIl6t6wi1sB0TbGnuWPdFtqK7Ro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p1v7T65dg+DPf1nWrAG1khnxthazxjNtXJ3D3azCV+6y7OD8QTOYCqTY5BJJ3oF3HD HwgdNA+bY1aoCIxoUjKF1MCGXE29E4yQNCleY5/tsCtWv2FXC2BWAzkATlhDWtfVTFi3 IqKQ3CGl3boa8VDtazNtk+0lfbODKQYpUpGEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.20 with SMTP id z20mr3286368fao.28.1232924147571; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:55:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497CB5E9.9060607@bluelight.org.uk> References: <497CB5E9.9060607@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:55:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310901251455k4cb3bc80sea8e0d31e1bdb2e3@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Terry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:55:49 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Terry wrote: > I am trying to upgrade from 7.0-STABLE to 7.1 Release. > I used RELENG_7_1 as my cvsup tag. > > But no matter what I try I get error's during make buildworld > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/sched-ebb.c: In > function 'schedule_ebbs': > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/sched-ebb.c:542: > internal compiler error: in find_idf, at tree-into-ssa.c:1040 > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int. > *** Error code 1 > ------------------------------------------------------ > > I did read on google that one person got around it by installing ccache but > it didnt work for me > > also the error is not all ways the same > > -------------------------------------------------- > /include -c asn1_HostAddress.c -o asn1_HostAddress.So > asn1_HostAddress.c: In function 'decode_HostAddress': > asn1_HostAddress.c:52: internal compiler error: in find_idf, at > tree-into-ssa.c:1040 > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libasn1. Do you have anything obscure in make.conf ? When it fails in succession, does it fail *after* the last point of failure, or is it randomized? When was your last c(v)sup? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 23:27:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323181065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twh359@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F260F8FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twh359@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=UsD06EHynb5sOJPo8r5B/OqiH+IoZQumgqMiEqKhMdtNVxJnh312kGNGUhn4jY4S; h=Received:Date:To:Subject:Reply-To:From:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [4.249.6.231] (helo=dialup-4.249.6.231.dial1.washington2.level3.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LREOR-0006xS-2c for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:02 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Thomas W. Holloway" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49765B5D.5090909@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49765B5D.5090909@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) X-ELNK-Trace: 04765327d95c5d2694f5150ab1c16ac060844222a69b33f4910c993a24e15136adff854013541098350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.249.6.231 Subject: Re: Newbie: offline package use / XFCE. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: twh359@earthlink.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:27:56 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:16:45 -0500, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > As a side note, I have a machine specifically for building packages and > it just happens that I finished a complete build run today (for FreeBSD > 7.1 32bit). This includes XFCE, Xorg, Gnome + power tools + fifth toe, > KDE4 (4.1 actually) and few other things. More than 1.5G of packages. I > could possibly upload just the XFCE + dependencies packages somewhere so > you can download them and use them. Contact me directly if you wish to > go down that route. Let me take this opportunity to express my sincere thanks to Mr. Kiagias for his (offline) assistance with this. In the process, we seem to have uncovered a small bug: pkg_add -n apparently does not check properly for _local_ dependencies. Being a newb, I leave any bug reporting to Mr. Kiagias. Thanks again to Mr. Kiagias and the list. regards, Tom Holloway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 23:50:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC37106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35578FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so706508ewy.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:50:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yO248l80rzmyR8thgsRBlXIIyP0S906YHhik36MHSLk=; b=jiSkM7hd1e1IEOLzXSspZ8YMfkU6R15uPdVDxJpAD3PVD/nMam0X2kynLMNG2UilF2 I1L0sUAHMBrd9g+X6kuEouWxBTeMuJ4WkKFdGg+psdYlsoUnQ5kg2tjDwuE1PPTlSS8h hec2XDG9putI/Yzf+TIH/hIDJNLDqObqykKGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NT12Ie0TztdGIUjkqTzMHaECMTsOMOIyQgxgmYfCySzF681vs5Ap0L1qgTa1qVSlAk cjigb/DFASw98yGWR/1nbMtK8QXSymKUUB0fmonISWS83ZrPrN7O58IQ7Q2yUSuhplPL ZFz/4+0f46vnBWdrBwYdQlTqigvQiHB6WMRRM= Received: by 10.210.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr530488eba.60.1232927431020; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4438819.home.otenet.gr [79.129.171.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm25247754nfu.21.2009.01.25.15.50.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:50:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497CFAC4.1070307@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:50:28 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: twh359@earthlink.net References: <49765B5D.5090909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie: offline package use / XFCE. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:50:32 -0000 Thomas W. Holloway wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:16:45 -0500, Manolis Kiagias > wrote: > >> As a side note, I have a machine specifically for building packages and >> it just happens that I finished a complete build run today (for FreeBSD >> 7.1 32bit). This includes XFCE, Xorg, Gnome + power tools + fifth toe, >> KDE4 (4.1 actually) and few other things. More than 1.5G of packages. I >> could possibly upload just the XFCE + dependencies packages somewhere so >> you can download them and use them. Contact me directly if you wish to >> go down that route. > > Let me take this opportunity to express my sincere thanks to Mr. > Kiagias for his (offline) assistance with this. In the process, we > seem to have uncovered a small bug: pkg_add -n apparently does not > check properly for _local_ dependencies. Being a newb, I leave any bug > reporting to Mr. Kiagias. > > Thanks again to Mr. Kiagias and the list. > > regards, > > Tom Holloway > Thanks Tom. Problem report submitted already! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:17:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3A9106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FC48FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567BF1901D; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:17:14 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:17:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:17:10 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Alex Karpovic Message-ID: <20090126001710.688b53eb@gluon> In-Reply-To: <700ff07a0901251351t629b9606g260447b4cbaef00b@mail.gmail.com> References: <700ff07a0901251351t629b9606g260447b4cbaef00b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hex editors, disk info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:17:15 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:51:45 +0200 Alex Karpovic wrote: > I need a hex editor able to work directly with disks, preferably > those, which can be started without X. > I tried hexcurse, chexedit, bpatch - and it seems that they are unable > to open /dev/something. Have you tried /usr/bin/hd? It seems it doesn't have any problem opening disk devices. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:18:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CBF10656C4 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB858FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0Q0JBTW069556 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:19:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:18:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:18:26 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:18:31 -0000 Folks, Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can build? thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:25:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95957106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekar2009@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f33.google.com (mail-gx0-f33.google.com [209.85.217.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A908FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekar2009@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so2879555gxk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZdZvse+1aUxWJJEKStZMDVk0bGWqKj9NWTVgC+OxhOc=; b=NNiM5s1S+BInMN5r+DPe/Uveecw0NWxVL9JXtxnazKV6yPLUZRwPb3682tKurQnBMB 9OY/NppiV+aJnGruI+A7VV/cUOz0UvjQMLPNkXAO0pyKieqoZV7VL++wQ4ILWgFjB+aX HlKL8cOARB7YqtHnWzeWQuB3W9kWV2+dEC7uE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pp31Dp5Gu3OZN53b04G18EWM1rEHv5FHzjiWgNR0jw50Dc262qjqH+KhS4WN+uRRY1 v2pujuzPefr0DzgAon/s/B3V5D/mfXN0i4+t2Vu/t2r1Mx+uj1rV7BYWGOlvXE33CRNJ vv5WN7fqV6OlrLKyuFs3yR1E0qkbd2AAmZcHU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.42.12 with SMTP id u12mr3037913ybj.18.1232929534685; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <700ff07a0901251625y140636cdx8403bf97f3aebbd8@mail.gmail.com> References: <700ff07a0901251351t629b9606g260447b4cbaef00b@mail.gmail.com> <20090126001710.688b53eb@gluon> <700ff07a0901251625y140636cdx8403bf97f3aebbd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:25:34 +0200 Message-ID: <700ff07a0901251625h4a944e41hba8c44b023fbcc2a@mail.gmail.com> From: Alex Karpovic To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fwd: hex editors, disk info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:25:35 -0000 >> I need a hex editor able to work directly with disks, preferably >> those, which can be started without X. >> I tried hexcurse, chexedit, bpatch - and it seems that they are unable >> to open /dev/something. > > Have you tried /usr/bin/hd? It seems it doesn't have any problem opening > disk devices. Bruce, hd is suitable for viewing only. I need *editing* tool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:30:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045DF1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DF38FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB0F32D58; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:29:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:30:42 +0100 From: cpghost To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20090126003042.GA5314@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:30:01 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 04:18:26PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Folks, > > Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] > chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can > build? > > thanks in advance, > > gary To split the file, use split(1): $ split -b 1M file.pdf file-chunk See "man split". But you won't be able to view the chunks separately, because, well, they aren't PDF files anymore. ;-) For this, you'd prefer to split the PDF file after N pages. You may want to investigate print/pdftk: >From /usr/ports/print/pdftk/pkg-descr: If PDF is electronic paper, then pdftk is an electronic staple-remover, hole-punch, binder, secret-decoder-ring, and X-Ray-glasses. Pdftk is a simple tool for doing everyday things with PDF documents. Keep one in the top drawer of your desktop and use it to: Merge PDF Documents Split PDF Pages into a New Document Decrypt Input as Necessary (Password Required) Encrypt Output as Desired Burst a PDF Document into Single Pages Report on PDF Metrics, including Metadata and Bookmarks Uncompress and Re-Compress Page Streams Repair Corrupted PDF (Where Possible) Pdftk is also an example of how to use a library of Java classes in a stand-alone C++ program. Specifically, it demonstrates how GCJ and CNI allow C++ code to use iText's (itext-paulo) Java classes. WWW: http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/ There are also other less heavy-weight programs to extract pages and page-ranges from a PDF and PostScript file... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:35:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88D01065690 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C138FC3C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0Q0ZV3j069728; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:35:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:34:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:34:46 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090126003446.GA38834@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:35:09 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:18:43AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Now that I have > > > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. > > You're right. It is a pre-mastered file system that just needs to be > recorded onto a media. The size 657922048 indicates that it would fit > onto a regular CD-R. > > > > > cdrdao seems like more toward audio, so i'm guessing that it's > > either cdrecord or burncd. I'll share my shell script once it > > works on both media. > > Yes, both will work, and yes, cdrdao is better for audio or mixed > forms (allthough it can burn data ISO, too, but I don't know how, > out of the box). :-) > > You may follow my examples from Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:46 +0100. > > I'm a lazy guy, so I've setup the following aliases in /etc/csh.cshrc: > > alias burndata 'cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data' > alias burnaudio 'cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -dao -audio' > alias burntoc 'cdrdao write --driver generic-mmc-raw --device 1,0,0 --speed 16 --eject' > > And I've got a shell script "burndvd" in ~/bin (included in $PATH): > > #!/bin/sh > > if [ "$1" = "" ]; then > echo "$0 " > exit 1 > fi > > if [ ! -f "$1" ]; then > echo "$0: cannot open $1" > exit 1 > fi > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=$1 > cdcontrol eject > > I know this is *very* lazy stuff, but it works, and I never change > a running system. :-) > > > Yo! thanks! :-) > > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:36:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9DF1065806 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8A08FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0Q0ajFF045926; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:36:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0Q0ajRn045923; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:36:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:36:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> Message-ID: <20090126013604.A45918@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:36:50 -0000 > Folks, > > Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] > chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can > build? as every other file. use split. or you meant splitting to separate pdf by some pages? convert to ps (pdf2ps) then use mpage to extract pages then make pdf back From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:37:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E1A10658CA for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69E88FC29 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0Q0b9Mi045933; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:37:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0Q0b8OM045930; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:37:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:37:08 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20090126003042.GA5314@phenom.cordula.ws> Message-ID: <20090126013658.T45918@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126003042.GA5314@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:37:27 -0000 > because, well, they aren't PDF files anymore. ;-) > For this, you'd prefer to split the PDF file after > N pages. You may want to investigate print/pdftk: > >> From /usr/ports/print/pdftk/pkg-descr: > > If PDF is electronic paper, then pdftk is an electronic staple-remover, > hole-punch, binder, secret-decoder-ring, and X-Ray-glasses. > Pdftk is a simple tool for doing everyday things with PDF documents. > Keep one in the top drawer of your desktop and use it to: nice tool. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:41:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBF6106568D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4745F8FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so719591ewy.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:41:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2zGQzZ8uP4moKokE+dZr7YcyIL1iekFlSKMhQQnTnrs=; b=uRdlxS6wftK+nEPaj++3TeJuUTggNcKtSMNlB4S+XN63PfM3VmjMfqIwiK9nPQVlOT ANHoxrad0THjbBMlwhgJNOdTaeH/vGhVfysODep3bvvbRYHO46khIHzysM7InMeBCqCx rWCIvy4yd/YqUg6KRPQ0JlPaF9tJLLKEooT/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DBGazFmJv+/xKoue16s9Bf9ew/B+Ll9wp+bxnDlZVqieIPr60ZGD1pIYuIl82xdLJ5 JHr5Dq71n/bFVrJvMe5lT8NUk6wzsZpgwEXfxL/VaCUSqYHRK1LhR8dhdwv7IA6f/S+E LI1I7qSRPaejST0yWT0/xN6GMygR4yH/E9w+Q= Received: by 10.210.141.17 with SMTP id o17mr639140ebd.195.1232930474432; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z34sm3749351ikz.22.2009.01.25.16.41.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:41:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:41:10 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126004110.3d6721dc@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090125224654.GB4568@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> <20090125224654.GB4568@phenom.cordula.ws> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:41:16 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:46:54 +0100 cpghost wrote: > That's a good hint indeed. I'll try it. Maybe I'll modify it a bit to > include ONLY the "build" target, because -jN fails on nearly every > other target, AFAICS. Don't forget that there are two different makes; BSD make does the ports infrastructure bit, and usually gmake (Gnu Make) does the actual build and install in the work directory. IIRC MAKE_ARGS only goes to the lower-level make (gmake), and aside from those ports that don't work with -j at all, the failure with other targets are caused by bsd make i.e. by trying to run the whole ports infrastructure with -j. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 00:46:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92558106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488A98FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0Q0kibf069844; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:45:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:45:59 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: cpghost Message-ID: <20090126004559.GB38834@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:46:22 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:35:44AM +0100, cpghost wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 05:56:33PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Now that I have > > > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. > > In addition to the cdrecord examples shown earlier, you can also > simply use burncd: > > # burncd -f /dev/acd0 -s max data cdr.iso fixate > > But remember one thing: don't try to mix and match accesses to > /dev/acd0 and /dev/cd0. IIRC, there are (were?) some issues with > using ATAPI and ATAPICAM drivers simultaneously. > > If you prefer to stick to ATAPICAM (recommended), use cdrecord > to write to the virtual device represending the burner. Use > cdrecord's -scanbus option (as root!) to find out: > > phenom# cdrecord -scanbus > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd7.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 > Jörg Schilling > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) * > 0,1,0 1) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7203A ' '1.01' Removable CD-ROM > 0,2,0 2) * > 0,3,0 3) * > 0,4,0 4) * > 0,5,0 5) * > 0,6,0 6) * > 0,7,0 7) * > > This would then be on that machine: > > # cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,1,0 cdr.iso > > To burn to a DVD, use growisofs, using something like this: > > # growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=8 -Z /dev/cd0=cdr.iso > > Regards, > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ Thanks for the clue. I remember "some sort of cmd" that told me that my second drive was (I thought) 1,1,0... but wasn't abs certain. Your ``cdrecord -scanbus'' did the trick:: Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW DVR-112D' '1.21' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'LITE-ON ' 'DVDRW LH-20A1P ' 'KL0N' Removable CD-ROM 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * Being new to this burning discs as backup, i didn't want to risk trying my second burner. (seeing smoke coming from the drive or whatever... ;) Now I'm set to try. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:01:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BEA106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F6F8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7qHs1b00D0mlR8UA711CXH; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:01:13 +0000 Received: from bsd.remdog.net ([76.102.24.75]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 811A1b00A1dCpWs8X11Boe; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:01:12 +0000 Message-ID: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:01:11 -0800 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Delivering system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:01:12 -0000 I currently have to retrieve crontab generated system mail from the command line. Is it possible to have system mail delivered to my Thunderbird mail client? Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:05:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2126106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE878FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 80oz1b00F0ldTLk520ryFd; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:51:58 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 80rx1b00M1f6R9u3Q0ryP6; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:51:58 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:51:56 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:51:56 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.x/FreeBSD 7.0 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 Cc: Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:05:14 -0000 On Sun 25 Jan 2009 at 16:18:26 PST Gary Kline wrote: > > Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] > chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can build? pdfsam ( http://www.pdfsam.org/ ) does both splits and merges of pdf files, but it doesn't seem to be in the FreeBSD ports system. There is a pdfmerge in /usr/ports/print, but no pdfsplit. -- Charlie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:20:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9830D1065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CC58FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA46358AD; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:20:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:20:52 +0100 From: cpghost To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090126012052.GB5314@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126003042.GA5314@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090126013658.T45918@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126013658.T45918@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:20:25 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 01:37:08AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > because, well, they aren't PDF files anymore. ;-) > > For this, you'd prefer to split the PDF file after > > N pages. You may want to investigate print/pdftk: > > > >> From /usr/ports/print/pdftk/pkg-descr: > > > > If PDF is electronic paper, then pdftk is an electronic staple-remover, > > hole-punch, binder, secret-decoder-ring, and X-Ray-glasses. > > Pdftk is a simple tool for doing everyday things with PDF documents. > > Keep one in the top drawer of your desktop and use it to: > > nice tool. thanks Thanks. Though I prefer your solution (via mpage). pdftk looks a bit too heavy for such a simple task. ;-) Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:27:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8A51065674 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92708FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB779AFC1FE; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:27:17 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:27:07 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <991123400901230656r1dab6e11t4db4aa7eab8d100c@mail.gmail.com> <3.0.1.32.20090124070639.00f092c0@sage-american.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20090124070639.00f092c0@sage-american.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251627.07168.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Jack L. Stone" , cpghost Subject: Re: Registry corrupt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:27:19 -0000 On Saturday 24 January 2009 04:06:39 Jack L. Stone wrote: > At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote: > >On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone > > wrote: > >> > During an upgrade from fbsd-6.3 --> fbsd-7.0, something strange > >> > happened. Some of the programs will not run after rehash or even when > >> > given the precise path to the program. System doesn't "see" several > >> > but not all programs. I've upgraded several servers (using source > >> > files -- cvsup) withoug any such problem. It's just this one machine. > > > >Some programs will not run because of a library version bump. Those > >programs will need to be recompiled, i.e. rebuild all ports. > > > >You can check this by running 'ldd' on the specific program. Let's > >assume that you have zip installed: > > > >$ ldd /usr/local/bin/zip > >/usr/local/bin/zip: > > libbz2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libbz2.so.3 (0x80065c000) > > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80076c000) > > Thanks for that tip. Here's output of one of the programs that doesn't run: > ldd /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup > ldd: /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not a dynamic executable > > BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still gives > this error: > /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found file /usr/bin/perl will give you the answer. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:31:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235DD106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092E88FC19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7qs71b00T0mlR8UA91FMes; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:15:21 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 81FL1b0041f6R9u8X1FLx4; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:15:20 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:15:19 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:15:19 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090126011519.GK66858@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.x/FreeBSD 7.0 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 Cc: Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:31:21 -0000 On Sun 25 Jan 2009 at 16:51:56 PST Charlie Kester wrote: >On Sun 25 Jan 2009 at 16:18:26 PST Gary Kline wrote: >> >> Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] >> chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can build? > >pdfsam ( http://www.pdfsam.org/ ) does both splits and merges of pdf >files, but it doesn't seem to be in the FreeBSD ports system. > Here's a suite of commandline tools for manipulating pdf's, in case you don't want a gui: http://multivalent.sourceforge.net/Tools/ This one uses Java, like pdfsam and pdftk. Like pdfsam, it doesn't seem to be in the ports tree. -- Charlie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:43:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7E0106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B70C8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AFBAFC206; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:42:59 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:42:59 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200901251700.01126.gnemmi@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200901251700.01126.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251642.59718.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Roland Smith , Gonzalo Nemmi Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:43:01 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 10:00:01 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > Going through src.conf(5) is ok .. but having a src.conf template already > available and fully commented sounds better to me ... > > Nothing is further from the truth than my opinions, but I still think that > having such a file available does come in handy :) You can base all switches on /usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk for easy typing and use similar logic in your src.conf: OFF=ZFS SENDMAIL KERBEROS .for var in ${OFF} WITHOUT_${var}=yes .endfor Also, bsd.own.mk can be ahead of the man page. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:56:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C2C106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CEB8FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8387B5C26 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:58:22 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type:mime-version :references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date:received :received:received:x-virus-scanned; s=aegis; t=1232935102; bh=LA 9zz+yGPImgubZyk6V8kWKpCen+BRSfOn0bfiJxAPU=; b=tlbFtCP6cj6/sjpgOh WjAe1QNHrKuK0Hx1I9uGEcp9H+4/9TNRUFwjD6rMWH70yMqG8GaOMhF392kEdaHQ 3Iqv14wn1pLBSZrgRgIt4A6BXqkyoHmt+8eshmGhIgq7pqpHVR9D2hbnCV9AcUmh wDjekB5L/ZGMj0LTXDM3FCSBU= X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id 3KehC7byxLdl for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from shepherd.hamla.org (shepherd.hamla.org [74.72.46.40]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 410C45C24 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by shepherd.hamla.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 940CC1407CBA; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:55:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:55:59 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126015558.GA24931@shepherd.hamla.org> References: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Delivering system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:56:02 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Rem P Roberti wrote: > I currently have to retrieve crontab generated system mail from the command > line. Is it possible to have system mail delivered to my Thunderbird > mail client? According to the cron(8) manual: When executing commands, any output is mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user named in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists). So you can configure Thunderbird to retrieve email for the user running the crontab, or set the MAILTO environment variable within your crontab. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:06:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCCB106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ACF8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1464AFC206; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:06:15 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:06:15 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090125113516.GB33731@screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20090125113516.GB33731@screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251706.15683.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: jail init, but another question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:06:17 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 02:35:16 Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello, > > I always try to set up the devfs ruleset in rc.conf. So my question is > about this in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: === > #jail_example_devfs_ruleset="ruleset_name" # devfs ruleset to apply to > jail === > > It appears not to work in /etc/rc.conf without this rc.subr patch: > === > $ diff -u /etc/rc.subr /usr/src/etc/rc.subr > --- /etc/rc.subr 2008-07-20 19:26:20.000000000 +0500 > +++ /usr/src/etc/rc.subr 2008-05-12 12:29:03.000000000 +0500 > @@ -1242,7 +1242,7 @@ > devfs_set_ruleset() > { > local devdir rs _me > - [ -n "$1" ] && eval rs=\$1 || rs= > + [ -n "$1" ] && eval rs=\$$1 || rs= > [ -n "$2" ] && devdir="-m "$2"" || devdir= > _me="devfs_set_ruleset" > === > > And, by far the "ruleset_name" does not work in favour of ruleset number. your patch broke it. eval rs=\$1 means rs will be set to the literal $1, while it should expand to the ruleset number, using the ruleset name, because devfs_rulesets_from_file sets: eval $rulename=\$rulenum Something else is wrong. Set rc_debug="YES" in /etc/rc.conf then /etc/rc.d/jail start example to trace how the rulesets are evaluated. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:08:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC201065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021078FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FC2AFC209; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:08:14 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:08:14 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: jail devfs openpty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:08:20 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 02:25:17 Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello, > > I am doing the portupgrade inside my jail. > I see that script(1) have no permission on openpty. > I deleted all the devfs rules on tha jail's /dev both by hand and by > deleting the ruleset string in master's rc.conf. So i stopped jail and > mounted devfs by hand. Started jail. It appears to work, the portupgrade. I > suppose that if mounted with /etc/rc.d/jail the devfs has some tweak that > makes it different from mounted by hand. Are you sure that's the problem? When going inside a jail with jexec(8) there is no /dev/tty. You have to login using ssh to get fully functional tty's. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:10:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC4110656C4 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC678FC1B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45A0AFC20B; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:09:58 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:09:58 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251709.58605.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: EA EA Subject: Re: dlopen Undefined symbol with x11/nvidia-driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:10:04 -0000 On Saturday 24 January 2009 19:05:19 EA EA wrote: > dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so: Undefined symbol > "miZeroLineScreenIndex" > (EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/modules//libfw.so > (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (loader failed 7) > > Fatal server error: > Caught sigal 11. Server aborting > > Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) > > > Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it ? You upgraded xorg-server after nvidia-driver, which installed it's own libwfb over nvidia's. Reinstall nvidia-driver and the problem should go away. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:15:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF30C106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C187B8FC1C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718DFAFC20B; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:15:31 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:15:31 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <85c8e1e10901241737t4077ce4fjfc611aa849de2702@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <85c8e1e10901241737t4077ce4fjfc611aa849de2702@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251715.31207.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Jeffrey R. Hellem" Subject: Re: Wierd Port Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:15:32 -0000 On Saturday 24 January 2009 16:37:08 Jeffrey R. Hellem wrote: > [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make clean > ===> Cleaning for php5-dba-5.2.8 > [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# > > i tried make install > > [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make install > install: That's not supposed to happen. Can you provide: ls -la `make -C /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba -V WRKDIR` -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:16:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CBF106568A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BE28FC22 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 10853 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 01:27:57 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jan 2009 01:27:57 -0000 Message-ID: <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:20:51 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:16:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charlie Kester wrote: > On Sun 25 Jan 2009 at 16:18:26 PST Gary Kline wrote: >> >> Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] >> chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can build? > > pdfsam ( http://www.pdfsam.org/ ) does both splits and merges of pdf > files, but it doesn't seem to be in the FreeBSD ports system. > > There is a pdfmerge in /usr/ports/print, but no pdfsplit. > It's a very junky way to do it (but the only way I know), use pdf2ps to convert the pdf to postscript, then you stand at least a good chance of doing the split, which many utilities allow. You could even do it graphically via gv. The problem with this (and the reason it might well fail anyhow) is because some things that pdfs do aren't implemented in any standard postscript level I ever heard of. It depends how many of the more recent extensions to pdf are being used. I've done this, *sometimes*. Because the pdf spec is fully published, it might one day allow someone to write a splitter, but because the spec is SO enormous, maybe they won't, either. Actually, that's a really good notion ... I need to give it some thought. > -- Charlie > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl9D/MACgkQz62J6PPcoOnxIQCgg+Suf4NpK8TXTNbYZIW0BCrR fKYAn3ljinZw9s1fPG39IMpblVNg0H+N =mGhJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:24:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED361106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4018FC1D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so8860592qyk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:24:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=q/Fc9CGtxsqEXtG0m60sxzaEavUHo4+Ll1DJvHEA270=; b=BqJSNVVL7ntAppngJyChoZnXRNhIhBo6lAFM7jaZ6ZLgAiMgxXHcZf88oDGwrE3YNA ktrDkjs4iZpx5PgxxiEWtY/ofZKVP7bIEByC/3m3AlvpSEwlCsC4rgUKY9x5xkehDpFU pnPLxsBSu+oHh7gqewXUd9hxa1SAh0plszmAw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=VX6l5QHDWqehA6hADuHiVAJFkBU8hHVrD8Ym+VE931E+vIa09KEEK1kZUmvvUeZq5c vK7qo1C7mrWM4/p4/Zjqvd+JmZty1WgJE+I/Qk3N3TlNB027YmuMXRi8XvC2chVMWdoF 8pViulltTDxigCLbWm0FPGmw5FcPJpY0SoIZs= Received: by 10.215.67.14 with SMTP id u14mr1250222qak.383.1232936651374; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm14776535yxt.21.2009.01.25.18.24.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:24:10 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Mel Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:24:07 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <200901251700.01126.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200901251642.59718.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901251642.59718.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901260024.07822.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:24:18 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:42:59 pm Mel wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 10:00:01 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > Going through src.conf(5) is ok .. but having a src.conf template already > > available and fully commented sounds better to me ... > > > > Nothing is further from the truth than my opinions, but I still think > > that having such a file available does come in handy :) > > You can base all switches on /usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk for easy typing and > use similar logic in your src.conf: > OFF=ZFS SENDMAIL KERBEROS > .for var in ${OFF} > WITHOUT_${var}=yes > .endfor > > Also, bsd.own.mk can be ahead of the man page. That's a _really_ good tip ... So much so that it should probably be documented somewhere. Thanks a lot Mel ! Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:31:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9701065672 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEC18FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so8863684qyk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:31:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=sh14LotZLFjXqdQRxdzFISDr0hLTrVaQPJWvGCngKlw=; b=gNyWqa9ak5yarI3sC0PRuP6mzDwg6PK886bhIvNrS7j0geu1irKTgxbMogsrELFVAA nM3sa9yB+L+cvjRCF7J3aaBaikUZZayb5s/fQ+ZvoLWrBMdvmC7nJIwH2K8mR6P5IHhK EdpXlxiS12dAJLMsMXvUHaba3KJb8TmphWaPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=x1HnU+Hdt8yJ6bO2MYLvYacez1ufzwFbJgQJbSVCCVYRyncge3FaUJpKdFTn81ydZG BcGEXKe49xjmMWvr4do4+Ftd7TcMcfyWJ5hlszGrpOJmoQwuQQk/iYkCDEB0T6f3S11U FNy2PsA160Zs08cJkK/4VPTtORzdc3Bdoqu/4= Received: by 10.214.218.4 with SMTP id q4mr708350qag.332.1232937087539; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm4296696ywo.10.2009.01.25.18.31.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:31:27 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:31:24 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901260031.24297.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: Rem P Roberti Subject: Re: Delivering system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:31:28 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:01:11 pm Rem P Roberti wrote: > I currently have to retrieve crontab generated system mail from the comma= nd > line. Is it possible to have system mail delivered to my Thunderbird > mail client? > > Rem On a default system, you probably want to edit /etc/aliases an make root ma= il=20 get redirected to you ... In order to do so, open your /etc/aliases file, look for the line that read= s: # Pretty much everything else in this file points to "root", so # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or forwarding # root's email from here. root: and edit it so it looks like this: # Pretty much everything else in this file points to "root", so # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or forwarding # root's email from here. root: yourusername save the changes and run the following command as root: newaliases =46rom then on, all mail directed to "root" (like those crontab send) will = be=20 forwarded to you .. so all you need to do is set up your mail client to pic= k=20 up it's mail from /var/mail/yourusername and there you go :) Hope that helps. Regards =2D-=20 Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:43:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81C91065672 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-25.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-25.bluehost.com [69.89.21.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 750688FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 25355 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2009 02:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2009 02:43:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ExdD9ymGQgi9uCFltv4lSCFvjmqItXluONP1XvDvjmMXWB3u9taSEJZ7aUu3gsEaUFKkRLjg3JikAgPmwYfrlSfuprX3BuccHmcuijxTHs5McOF5amV69gehAgyfc9e+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRHS2-00031L-UP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:43:51 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:42:24 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:42:24 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126024224.GA2193@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> <20090125185736.D44868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125185736.D44868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:43:48 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 06:57:48PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 > >Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zioni= st=20 > >mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy > >that Obama is President of the USA? > >by David Duke > because he use FreeBSD? Man . . . if I'd known that, I might have considered voting for him. Maybe. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth FreeBSD Secure Programming Guidelines: "In fact, never ever use gets() or sprintf(), period. If you do - we will send evil dwarfs after you." --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl9IxAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW+owCgqb9SZC2sG+HlYOIa6ZzX8aYQ qsgAoJvlv6HWtGlCG0mAvDa8rfpohI7u =GCXK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:45:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B232D1065674 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-128.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-128.bluehost.com [67.222.38.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DAA38FC1B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 29741 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2009 02:45:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2009 02:45:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=OeFRQt+oNdH3ydf3AVmZDo/vHgCGDknSZczk9VThWYFkIdXtU8+2lkFIyY/3EbzsZPxgDmnVXo4myBvzYrOU30Um8ocWHMzV3Mp6MpULEieAX7WVFlzCjn8SkiHzrAQP; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRHTL-0003P2-Lq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:45:11 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:43:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:43:44 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126024344.GB2193@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <320685273-1232899457-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1217896543-@bxe1008.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MW5yreqqjyrRcusr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <320685273-1232899457-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1217896543-@bxe1008.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:45:10 -0000 --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 04:04:15PM +0000, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: > Lawrence Auster wrote: > >Bla bla bla Ku Klux Klan crap. >=20 > Why don't you bring your hatred outta here. This is a family-oriented cha= nnel. >=20 > Next time, even when you put OOT label on subject, I still will call it c= rap. >=20 > If you name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But= it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. Technically, "chink" is a slur for Chinese -- not Asian in general. Just tryin' ta help. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Sterling Camden: "The Church doesn't want people calling for inquisitions." --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl9I2AACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXLBwCdHs/7Pp/1mLZdsqdIdOiQUaDX Wo0AnRbfIwXx4qw8mXhshbG7GzTnd4FQ =um+W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:46:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3621065738 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CAF8FC21 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5784184rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:46:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t+TikEjLNbgKYICH8+/qqS6NsdehB/SeDB65YM0zpjk=; b=ThIh29ZPUMC0MdSJ3t/NII3nDzeH/4BX9wF8b+G5Eo+PyoZZZvWAJbrUI6jk0jPyE4 asv+bqQJl5tO9u9Tr7RqD2CRAt9P1UOU8XdGg5NUYsBD7XMUYzV63mm39JrRQKQcQxv4 sTNR0FpB274347IwVgy2eJvKhEvbSKapLXx9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dCnrUc0WFKoPy6F6h8Vja75XX2egvm6ecn/w7zqDOoRW7hgE4NbQ42aTWKjC9h+zYB W2LrXItlJZGJXOryzt1ZelbURDuGWoV12VrStjp+qwnqVpQbXgSeVINmcJLUPF8ncb7Z OQKXg4uhQl0XaXOB+RBRSbUL7i2+cx6XZE6Zg= Received: by 10.142.69.20 with SMTP id r20mr2608010wfa.188.1232937984944; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm1585739wfa.40.2009.01.25.18.46.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:46:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497D23FC.9040006@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:46:20 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <200901251709.58605.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901251709.58605.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dlopen Undefined symbol with x11/nvidia-driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:46:25 -0000 >> Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it ? > > You upgraded xorg-server after nvidia-driver, which installed it's own libwfb > over nvidia's. Reinstall nvidia-driver and the problem should go away. > I tried both ways. In either case the symlink was still from libwfb -> nvidia libwfb. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 03:05:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED7C106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4978FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4957CAFC1FE; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:05:13 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:05:12 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251805.12600.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Doug Poland Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:05:14 -0000 On Saturday 24 January 2009 09:32:54 Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD (6.3, 7.0) on > different architectures (i386, SPARC64). > > What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all machines, but > preserving ports/packages for each version/architecture. I also want > to make rebuilding indexes run as fast as possible. > > Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3. The problem > comes in with INDEX files and packages. Indexes get updated only when > the host serving the export updates the hierarchy via portsnap update. > If I create a package on SPARC64 and the package exists already for > an i386 build, then I've got an issue. > > Can someone point me to a doc/google/man page that may give me some > guidance in setting up such an environment? The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should fix those problems: PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} Packages will end up in /usr/ports/packages/sparc64 on sparc64 machines and /usr/ports/packages/i386 on i386 machines etc. Indexfiles will be named according to arch as well. Adjust PKG_PATH in your environment if you use pkg_add(1) accordingly. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 04:11:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B98C106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from outbound04.telus.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5918FC19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net ([75.156.151.50]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090126035505.NAOD1538.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:55:05 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (d75-156-151-50.abhsia.telus.net [75.156.151.50]) by priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 1FDB3B21381EEDD0 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:55:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <497D3449.50001@telus.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:55:53 -0700 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090122120026.7431E10656BF@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090122120026.7431E10656BF@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 7.1, Xorg 7.4, Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:11:04 -0000 I upgrade to Xorg 7.4 yesterday, and now I can't seem to start gnome. For the life of me, I can't figure out what is going on. startx and X both start fine... (that is how I am able to type this email). But when starting the machine, my screen just flashes a few times and returns to the console. Looking at Xorg.0.log I see the same error a few others are getting... dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so: Undefined symbol "miZeroLineScreenIndex" (EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/modules//libfw.so (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (loader failed 7) (EE) NVIDIA(0): Need libwfb but wfbScreenInit not found I am also not able to use Vesa or NV (both options that have worked in the past when having issues with the Nvidia driver). I have read updating, and none of the advice has helped. I have even tried the 180.22 driver. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get Gnome/GDM working again? I don't care if I have 3d, as long as I have a usuable system until drivers or issues are resolved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 04:19:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFDC106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791298FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so6181798wfg.7 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:19:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v2XFJn6vWnZiEmiy8t+WbcnlI/AIaMdPnaj37aj8kFg=; b=i3LCtHg2tPn76wAJ8kYd6qhm7dXCzk7iG24Zs7pyS5AeNvYRPFZPy9caBBeJIPVsTo lMq3+TNwvjQNpaZwYHtXdZov/Q0fW+oVEyPbhtn0SaoFpCZhCbLpZ6X0cjy/OyfXp9B0 Lt0bi3GpXDE+6RR34BtP0Xjj518UQu5Q1+Xu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OkhHcv99AHCjnlyyFh1nyJC91xjx8xCdP38xhaJyBQkcrb6qj3lWfzYFZVNrLFEFil VRCp2UO7Va2o1xc8hZO4BuTwfuGzA6KPD2ccXib2W5lgFnz/zNbshiouII/a6m1O3RUF eF1l6UcwLd3ySh5jifCIYNTdH8ZOoHsgeS/7U= Received: by 10.142.125.4 with SMTP id x4mr34332wfc.75.1232943552125; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm8068694wfg.45.2009.01.25.20.19.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:19:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497D39BC.9050003@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:19:08 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Molofee References: <20090122120026.7431E10656BF@hub.freebsd.org> <497D3449.50001@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <497D3449.50001@telus.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1, Xorg 7.4, Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:19:13 -0000 Jeff Molofee wrote: > I upgrade to Xorg 7.4 yesterday, and now I can't seem to start gnome. > For the life of me, I can't figure out what is going on. startx and X > both start fine... (that is how I am able to type this email). But when > starting the machine, my screen just flashes a few times and returns to > the console. Looking at Xorg.0.log I see the same error a few others are > getting... > > dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so: Undefined symbol > "miZeroLineScreenIndex" > (EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/modules//libfw.so > (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (loader failed 7) > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Need libwfb but wfbScreenInit not found > > I am also not able to use Vesa or NV (both options that have worked in > the past when having issues with the Nvidia driver). I had the exact same issue. I played around so much I don't know /exactly/ what helped but the following might: 1) restart hald, devd, the computer 2) use xf86-video-nv 3) run X -configure again 4) recompile xorg-server 5) These same steps in a different order. Someone mentioned that I installed xorg after nvidia-driver which messed up some symlink or another. As far as I could tell this is not true. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 04:27:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126381065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82718FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDC5AFC1FE; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:27:25 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:27:24 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901251709.58605.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <497D23FC.9040006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <497D23FC.9040006@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251927.25023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: dlopen Undefined symbol with x11/nvidia-driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:27:26 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:46:20 Eitan Adler wrote: > >> Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it ? > > > > You upgraded xorg-server after nvidia-driver, which installed it's own > > libwfb over nvidia's. Reinstall nvidia-driver and the problem should go > > away. > > I tried both ways. In either case the symlink was still from libwfb -> > nvidia libwfb. Judging from a google search on "miZeroLineScreenIndex", the fix needs to come from nvidia, as xorg yet again broke ABI. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 04:42:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E31B106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E148FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7qs81b00J0b6N64A64iER1; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:14 +0000 Received: from bsd.remdog.net ([76.102.24.75]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 84iD1b0041dCpWs8P4iDvi; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:14 +0000 Message-ID: <497D3F25.5020400@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:42:13 -0800 From: Rem P Roberti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090124) To: FreeBSD References: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> <200901260031.24297.gnemmi@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200901260031.24297.gnemmi@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Delivering system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:13 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:01:11 pm Rem P Roberti wrote: I currently have to retrieve crontab generated system mail from the command line. Is it possible to have system mail delivered to my Thunderbird mail client? Rem On a default system, you probably want to edit /etc/aliases an make root mail get redirected to you ... In order to do so, open your /etc/aliases file, look for the line that reads: # Pretty much everything else in this file points to "root", so # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or forwarding # root's email from here. root: and edit it so it looks like this: # Pretty much everything else in this file points to "root", so # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or forwarding # root's email from here. root: yourusername save the changes and run the following command as root: newaliases >From then on, all mail directed to "root" (like those crontab send) will be forwarded to you .. so all you need to do is set up your mail client to pick up it's mail from /var/mail/yourusername and there you go :) Hope that helps. Regards I had made the changes to aliases as soon as I set up the system. The only thing that I have yet to do is configure Thunderbird to go fetch user's mail. I'll try setting up a a rule to do that and see what happens. Thanks all for the help. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 04:45:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99621065672 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B607D8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.195] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC765C2F1EC for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:47:16 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:46:17 +1000 Message-Id: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:45:56 -0000 I don't want to raise an argument here (on multiple levels, no less...), but what would the compatibility be between FreeBSD (release) and Solaris? Why I ask is Adobe have released a version of flash for Solaris, and I'm wondering if this might work better than the linux_compat types. I tried running it straight out, but I'm getting errors of a missing libsocket.so library. Any thoughts? Perhaps an idea on whether this library could be built on FBSD? BTW, before anyone raises an issue regarding EULA apparently Adobe don't care now IF an EU sets it up on any platform (if it works), just that they won't support it any way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:03:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5DF1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-71-117-207-61.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.117.207.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696FD8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 5A7B4B64F; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id VAA04563; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:28:47 GMT Message-Id: <200901252128.VAA04563@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:22 GMT." <497C312E.6050802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:28:47 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:03:09 -0000 >>>> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory >>>> >>>> My console says: >>>> >>>> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>>> >>>> pstat -sk >>>> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity >>>> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% >>>> >>>> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related >>>> complaints in dmesg. >>>> >>>> Is this something to worry about? >>> Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing so. >>> >>> Kris >> >> Whoops, I forgot to change the subject line after adding the k option >> to pstat. Without the k it said 0 used. And this morning it occurs to >> me that even if swap used was zero, it could have been trying to *start* >> using swap. >> >> Anyway... given this timeout explaination, I'm guessing that page/swap >> has to compete with user processes for disk i/o, and thus probably >> suffers from the same lack of fair i/o scheduling that user processes >> suffer from. E.g. one process doing disk i/o can lock out another >> process for at least several minutes, probably indefinitely. :-( > > There is a timeout of (from memory) 60 seconds. I've not seen this > timeout exceeded on properly functioning disk hardware (even heavily > loaded), only on broken hardware/controllers, or on I/O devices that are > intrinsically slow for some reason (USB stick, or swapping to a file). > > Unless you're doing something truly unspeakable to that disk's load, I'd > look at the hardware. zcat /ad8/7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso.gz > /ad6/7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso I'll spare you the real paths. :-) The target was to slice 2, which is very near the beginning of the disk, while swap is in slice 10 at the very end of the same disk. These disks are both Seagate 7200 SATA connected to nforce4-ultra. I just ran the same command again, and the CPU is 89-96% idle. So it is I/O bound writing to the disk, as expected. The machine was rebooted Tuesday afternoon (I had been testing a firewire patch for Sean). Friday morning I copied the 7.1 ISO to the machine and was verifying checksums. After I noticed the swap_pager complaints on the console I checked and it was only using 96 KiB of swap. Two days later (Sunday morning) swap usage has grown to 500 KiB: pstat -sk Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/ad6s10 4590208 500 4589708 0% So the machine doesn't normally use swap much at all, but messing with the large ISO apparently kicked something out of memory, and the disk with the swap partition was already busy writing at the other end of the disk. Do you consider writing a large file to disk a "truly unspeakable" load? Scott Bennett writes: >> This machine has 2 GiB of main memory and almost never uses the swap >> partition, so I put swap at the slow end of the drive. Yes I have >> swap on slice 10. I use NetBSD's fdisk, as it handles more than >> 4 slices nicely, unlike FreeBSD's fdisk. As far as I know, the BIOS > > So NetBSD's fdisk understands logical partitions in an extended > partition? Cool. I wish we had it in FreeBSD. It's really a pain to > have to shut FreeBSD down and boot a standalone program to change the layout > of a disk that has an EP. :-( At least the FreeBSD kernel has no problem > understanding a disk like that. I haven't ported NetBSD's fdisk to FreeBSD, I just boot NetBSD, fdisk the new disk, and boot back to FreeBSD. I also use NetBSD's MBR, which has a nice boot menu. (well, as nice as it can be with only 512 bytes to work with) It would be nice to have NetBSD's fdisk ported, as FreeBSD's fdisk can't even read the logical/extended partitions. >> message I suspect that the pager/swaper is competing for disk i/o. >> I forgot to ask if there is some sysctl or other knob to lengthen >> the timeout. The real fix is to improve the i/o fairness, but I've >> been asking about this for 2-3 years and not getting anywhere. >> > BSD UNIX introduced the disksort() routine into its kernel ages ago. > I know it was in 4.2BSD, but it may well have been there long before then. > disksort() was added to satisfy a maximum number of disk I/O requests with > a minimum of head movement and delay. Basically, it sorts new requests > into queues for each drive such that the arm moves from request to request > in one direction through the disk, and then the next queue started is sorted > into the opposite sequence for the arm to move in the opposite direction. > The result is that the arm moves back and forth from the start to the end > of the disk and then back again, reading and writing as it goes, thus > minimizing the distance traveled for each request handled. In FreeBSD, > I think there is also some sort of change to the algorithm that tends to > subprioritize or subdivide requests according to the amount of data to be > read/written in each request, but I don't know any of its details. In > general, disksort() gives pretty good performance. > I doubt that the current algorithm is the source of your problems, but > if it is, then perhaps moving swap to sit between the two most active file > systems on that drive could help. You may wish to look carefully at the > disk I/O system in FreeBSD to see whether your idea of "fairness" could be > implemented without running afoul of the existing code structure and also > to get an idea as to whether what you want done would really be likely to > yield any performance improvement. I don't think the elevator algorithm is the problem. I think it has something to do with the disk buffer cache. Which has changed a lot since I took that internals class back in the dark ages. Something about buffer cache and vm being unified now. I haven't had a chance to study the new way. :-( Anyway, the problem seems to be related to reading or writing large files and being i/o bound. My theory is that the i/o bound process keeps the buffer cache full, and then other processes don't get their i/o queued, so they block. Often I have the case where I have one disk i/o bound and a different process blocks waiting for i/o on an idle disk. Occasionally I try to come up with a demo for this two disk scenario, but so far no luck, so there may be something else going on. I did find a good demo using one disk: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-performance/2008-July/003533.html I haven't received any replies to this. It should be trivially easy for someone to try it and see if they get similar results or not. Just find or create a file larger than main memory and run the test. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:06:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF2C106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82AF8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so2291554yxb.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:06:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=lwYLspv440mLgLcuYbyGFWG/jPefhd0bCjGsXLsCnpw=; b=d/Zvm0+KFJBcuZ11rTRfWmHi+/8M87/CU/shMFHuClUqTgffLXyvtvACxliQbPFibR gLXoR9VSA4c4On4FbxW667GqybJNIwwAcSXuq/SmdjUs0TaILHk4zeqMnBns+TVmfJRr 57KnmMVipHEuP1XCUvSAvu6askJ2Ry2V4ZOXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=i/y6p+EeqKOb4hxjfRHj80iBMJi54JVNaCv+w21dhnoB8jrme2DWW0CHRKk297MU90 sVAVjbQdmzwizI3mTvDegLNP7pPi/vVQp7hXB+P8dBwUb0S+LveQwDSN890ewegkFQDM wdgYskl3moOutvsveCv34xoznpgy2CQ2614rc= Received: by 10.100.174.13 with SMTP id w13mr1135126ane.123.1232946407324; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c28sm15381076anc.25.2009.01.25.21.06.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:06:47 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:06:44 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> <200901260031.24297.gnemmi@gmail.com> <497D3F25.5020400@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <497D3F25.5020400@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901260306.44749.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: Rem P Roberti Subject: Re: Delivering system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:06:48 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 2:42:13 am Rem P Roberti wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:01:11 pm Rem P Roberti wrote: > > > I currently have to retrieve crontab generated system mail from the command > line. Is it possible to have system mail delivered to my Thunderbird > mail client? > > Rem > > > On a default system, you probably want to edit /etc/aliases an make root > mail get redirected to you ... > > In order to do so, open your /etc/aliases file, look for the line that > reads: > > # Pretty much everything else in this file points to "root", so > # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or forwarding > # root's email from here. > > root: > > and edit it so it looks like this: > > # Pretty much everything else in this file points to "root", so > # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or forwarding > # root's email from here. > > root: yourusername > > save the changes and run the following command as root: > > newaliases > > >From then on, all mail directed to "root" (like those crontab send) will > > be > > forwarded to you .. so all you need to do is set up your mail client to > pick up it's mail from /var/mail/yourusername and there you go :) > > Hope that helps. > > Regards > > > I had made the changes to aliases as soon as I set up the system. The > only thing that I have > yet to do is configure Thunderbird to go fetch user's mail. I'll try > setting up a a rule to > do that and see what happens. Thanks all for the help. > Rem Rem, you can do better than that .. AFAIK you can create a new account on Thunderbird and it'll create a new In-box for that account .. So, create a new account, name it "local mail" or something like that, and configure it so it fetches email messages from "localhost" or "localmail" or "/var/mail/yourusername" (instead of POP or IMAP) so every system generated mail will go straight to your new account mailbox avoiding the mixing of external and system mail .. thus .. ridding you from the need to create tedious rules to sort mail ;) Hope I helped. Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:11:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEA9106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E46F8FC19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5823498rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:11:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Pk+Wn8l13MkQYaJjJwf+XwS1wYxw0x3Yqso+MQnK/Q8=; b=su5Cj0WkyW3DwQG3Bf9gmcRAz7Y7jsylsrJWQZwI4rz9EKkax3hzPyXXXSpCGnhivQ Yu2+FYuV6ME2hzVghTqwSJsotbtTX5knphqQZjHpirsXXfuY95BWeZPNwCD7BQa/LEvn xHnotaex8n3MKrwM+DaBbaDCZFEHvcrZVb0a8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CNVkfzI3xnLg3Cl/xtK6vE1I6LDM16Dvh3FO3p/IOzU/7nAjEGI+/ErZ62EjMNl3DB fOiGuR7HmSsQcOIuDgKqvozQnejl8inR+CWdxoBx0DxZX03OuhmTH1ObB/8xfOTA12nZ r1ZfOi3BKYbn7JIrvCoU8tWnEmIL0kr8wQvV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.153.16 with SMTP id f16mr957674rvo.283.1232946660943; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:11:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <00163646ccded2d12c045d57b9cd@google.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:11:00 -0700 Message-ID: <340a29540901252111i2ce1411et3d388fc821c78c9c@mail.gmail.com> From: Andrew Falanga To: nightrecon@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups issue, unsupported format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:11:01 -0000 On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm working on getting cups working and I've installed the "hplip" port > > and the cups program used that to install the printer. At least, there > was > > an "HPLIP" in a list in one of the pages during the setup. My printer is > > an old HP LaserJet 4+ which I've connected through the parallel port. My > > URI for the printer is parallel:/dev/lp0. When I went to do the test page > > I got this error, "Unsupported format 'application/postscript'." Here's > > the problem, I chose a driver which, though I don't remember the full > > string in cups, was a 4/5 PCL driver. So, why is it trying to print using > > postscript? > > > > It's been a while since I've done a virgin cups install so I'm not real > current on what it might be like now. You start out with installing the > /usr/ports/print/cups metaport and this should pull in a few other sub > ports as dependencies. > > The port cups-pstoraster is what coverts postscript print output into > PCL, utilizing (IIRC) one of the ghostscript ports. Perhaps your install > may be incomplete. In the past I've just installed the metaport and it > happily sucked everything else in automagically. > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Truly sad that it took me this long to get to this, but thanks for the tip. I installed that port and everything indeed does work much better. Took me some doing but I've finally got my LJ4+ printing. Cool! Now, though, I've got to go and buy a new toner/drum :-(. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:14:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9EA106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADCA8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so785145ewy.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:14:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tZmsIN6W6Ofl9lBHcYPN3KqwRyfLPnLreQKAi6cHqM4=; b=ToG0ooebw+9sbYkBDkyaticLUU2gOJMH2ipRDO8KsCCoPPGkH9eJ9qJzlrYQkaMzov g3PmC6I5LB3kynbmZU/JYLwezF36HBRLdfY8+AfTDOYIA+Y0zhLo3fCaKG6Mfzkx19dd dA83ia5z9Kj09A8N9RuvBtsJJB5tofakTliCI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TbjDhcChPoQljcj4UyFvhaBziXMMece4KVGJZ+qyNVNOLhhXc29K9zc076zCWmp2bJ 3eWLG1PNpiWWi5NW6oFxG1JpPj6m4FEbj6L06OkMj1932JUppV8d7nao7pXR6NB+90nS QfJ32ratGouRjPqI56ghcYYOL4UHl5vtw2D1c= Received: by 10.210.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr4508881ebb.6.1232946849231; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y34sm26824837iky.16.2009.01.25.21.14.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:14:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:14:05 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126051405.5f63e990@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:14:11 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:46:17 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > Why I ask is Adobe have released a version of flash for Solaris, and > I'm wondering if this might work better than the linux_compat types. > I tried running it straight out, but I'm getting errors of a missing > libsocket.so library. Presumably you would need a minimal version of Solaris, that's equivalent to the linux-base packages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:15:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747B01065687 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5B38FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0Q5EX74095548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0Q5EXRJ095542; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18104; Sun, 25 Jan 09 21:07:33 PST Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:09:14 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <497d457a.vHS8e1pdUGuWBy1x%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200901251700.01126.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200901251642.59718.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901251642.59718.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnemmi@gmail.com Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:15:14 -0000 > ... bsd.own.mk can be ahead of the man page. Perhaps the OP would consider writing a sed script to generate /usr/share/examples/etc/src.conf from /usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:22:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501A2106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227D48FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5826374rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:22:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=grHHOUdarBdzfY9qh8h5u/mDc0VonwpNqDZwfaSpfp0=; b=kxRNUnvrbhwIxqyAWVlasoaTS8bGkTCgS8uB1x7CPZdDl/ey5/y/WxiWqpBSKhI1ua odlaFJZxfG/oVL1P0ABVqSMTVHk5oQ5/HKvfzwb4Wk0jioIDUPeyDY5alZT0sXVaFpz7 1QMvpzLWGxNofvdjRKYhUGvXxGbNl6G+kcOZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fFC8Ei1a4Wn8s2wfkT7f0AV1ieDQqR3kijAFditdtjziD8c9bjhjSunhq0DyPgT9QU j31vOye/0ejaYBx0HtDwXn0fyaCTpafaMflI9tCnKopQ3/23Cbu/YQNYoX25tw4T/dFP cAZELXcCYBg1k6d8fv3Ze54sK7YpzR/KAoZro= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.164.13 with SMTP id r13mr3195882rvo.33.1232947327784; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:22:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090126024344.GB2193@kokopelli.hydra> References: <320685273-1232899457-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1217896543-@bxe1008.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20090126024344.GB2193@kokopelli.hydra> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:22:07 +0700 Message-ID: <5635aa0d0901252122m5e4cf782id5092704d218735f@mail.gmail.com> From: Outback Dingo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:22:08 -0000 I really dont think this is an appropriate FreeBSD thread can we get kill this thread, its quite offensive On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 04:04:15PM +0000, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: > > Lawrence Auster wrote: > > >Bla bla bla Ku Klux Klan crap. > > > > Why don't you bring your hatred outta here. This is a family-oriented > channel. > > > > Next time, even when you put OOT label on subject, I still will call it > crap. > > > > If you name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But > it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. > > Technically, "chink" is a slur for Chinese -- not Asian in general. > > Just tryin' ta help. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > Quoth Sterling Camden: "The Church doesn't want people calling for > inquisitions." > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 05:35:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E521065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E1E8FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so1554713ele.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:35:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LYdwUCWRMlWe0rjrq+iCiFkpYcIZTwVIT0FIHz7ZEZs=; b=GYyqkpOWRUMp4Pr0STWRRPcjDKHceK47eWySkBgR9+3huPp+hEMPAcbDSSgEwZtajt qo2GXrX6C7r4hsxo98lxW6I4UyEQ4mHS7TKGzq9RyKs2qsyPF0XkMt5oagxw3TVsxeFW eBJB53V0MEPK97gQjCcBbc1clD5+0ItIDzY7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WuV00JTWd84xkt4hzdOLNSU0AlNKBBMLEzrrWy6igkc+uPioQU8ZGABcGKRNpjCVs4 dPa/k11WYZxQwk9Z5wwAZ0LX5sMUUHKUmtrqMmoHgkKvxtPKWqqaxOIjBpkiIgPZNu8E Osyciiit3PHT9fNajGcK0J+tCOAxXLVXZXpcc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.20.1 with SMTP id d1mr29677ibb.19.1232946544360; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:09:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:09:04 -0800 Message-ID: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> From: sk89q To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X11 forwarding through SSH: Can't open display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:35:34 -0000 Hello, I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and I have been trying to get X11 forwarding through SSH to work. I've gotten to the point where the environment variable "DISPLAY" is set, but I get a "Can't open display" error when I attempt to run an X application. The remote server in question does not have an X server install. In /etc/ssh/ssh_config, I have the following lines: X11Forwarding yes AllowTcpForwarding yes UseLogin no When I first tried logging in with `ssh -Xvvv user@host`, I got an error message stating that "xauth" could not be found. DISPLAY was not set and X11 was not forwarded. `sockstat -4 | grep sshd` didn't return any relevant entries. Looking at the strings of sshd, I noticed that it had a hard-coded path pointing to "/usr/X11/bin/xauth", so I made a hard link from "/usr/local/bin/xauth" to "/usr/X11/bin/xauth". Now, sshd can find xauth, and DISPLAY is properly set to "localhost:10.0". sockstat shows: USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root sshd 62372 7 tcp4 127.0.0.1:6010 *:*" However, running `xeyes` reports the error "Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0". Right now, `ssh -Xvvv user@host` shows: debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-dd77LaQ9BG/xauthfile generate unix:0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout 1200 2>/dev/null Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0 On the local end, I have tried connecting with PuTTY, ssh through Cygwin, and ssh on a Ubuntu system. I have also tried ssh -Y as well. Regards, sk89q From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 06:02:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CA11065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B548FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.132] (helo=smtp1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRKYH-0000Sh-QH; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:02:29 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRKY9-00060b-Hn; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:02:21 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48243989E; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:02:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <497D51E6.2000904@boosten.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:02:14 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sk89q References: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1LRKY9-00060b-Hn X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.913, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 forwarding through SSH: Can't open display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:02:31 -0000 sk89q wrote: > Hello, > > I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and I have been trying to get X11 forwarding > through SSH to work. I've gotten to the point where the environment > variable "DISPLAY" is set, but I get a "Can't open display" error when > I attempt to run an X application. The remote server in question does > not have an X server install. > > In /etc/ssh/ssh_config, I have the following lines: > X11Forwarding yes > AllowTcpForwarding yes > UseLogin no > Have a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config of the remote server and restart sshd after modification. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 06:02:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768BA10656CB for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B07F8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0Q62TYg001610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0Q62TiH001587; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18245; Sun, 25 Jan 09 21:48:28 PST Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:50:08 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <497d4f10.Q/a15CDNMxuhS95v%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <200901251805.12600.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901251805.12600.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doug@polands.org Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:02:55 -0000 > > I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD > > (6.3, 7.0) on different architectures (i386, SPARC64). > > > > What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all machines, > > but preserving ports/packages for each version/architecture. > > I also want to make rebuilding indexes run as fast as possible. > > > > Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3 ... ... > The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should > fix those problems: > PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} > INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} To speed up building, it may also be useful to set WRKDIRPREFIX to something like /var/ports or /var/tmp/ports, so that the work directories are local rather than having to be accessed via NFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 06:15:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F91106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1318FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 12111 invoked by uid 399); 26 Jan 2009 05:48:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 26 Jan 2009 05:48:24 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <497D4EA6.1020100@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:48:22 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: josh.carroll@gmail.com References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:15:05 -0000 Josh Carroll wrote: > What I do is the following via make.conf, I think this is a good solution. Given that incredible foot-shooting power of the -j stuff I am not inclined to add something like this to portmaster, not even as an "advanced" option. Doug > which will work for > portmaster/portupgrade or manual builds: > > # set MAKE_ARGS for the build target(s) > .if !(make(*install) || make(package)) > MAKE_ARGS+=-j8 > .endif > > Then as you find ports that don't build properly, add an entry like this: > > # some ports don't like -j8, so we can undo the MAKE_ARGS addition for those > .if ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/mplayer} > MAKE_ARGS:=${MAKE_ARGS:C/-j8//} > .endif > > It's a bit of a hack, but I've had decent success with this. Enough > ports fail to build with -jX, that I'd never do the above on a > production machine, especially since it's possible for some sort of > silent error that produces an unpredictable binary. But for my home > machine, I've been pretty happy with it. > > Regards, > Josh > -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 06:17:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64106106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0728FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so1559789ele.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:17:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VoHtys0GFrOSuJnX+O0fOdZr0a1rvR6hDxX3PRnp1cM=; b=kPDb27Xj0W5OA4ZnwegxO6HBQDqxeUBzy7c5L9ue2Y+nPtg44+svbI3UlTJprYqC1d +bHVuC+8j1B9//8blsEsEM3XrC4C4yAMat7TuCdPNLLVZtyNdSPvm/1iSToc9cHI0gop R0VoqNaA8UHYcs08siYBaVDDIYmk0uqGPyea4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CPTAbLwPzrSPC90qjfl3a6ypcbcnE2XlXxDS8NLucAEeRfhDk7CGqNrG5zlDOyjOPI 1ebDqc7DuV2s40zzQji05QAeUhQ1yR+wwFcRfBisRHLLK7piZfMNWDhSazXPAyKnIQm1 1EGtllTVBVWpDPgrVaCYFf/28CugGTvOhX15Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.197 with SMTP id p5mr194620iba.51.1232950666339; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:17:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497D51E6.2000904@boosten.org> References: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> <497D51E6.2000904@boosten.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:17:46 -0800 Message-ID: <825770ac0901252217m74882871o543027b0e32b9eb8@mail.gmail.com> From: sk89q To: Peter Boosten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 forwarding through SSH: Can't open display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:17:47 -0000 I meant sshd_config. Regards On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Peter Boosten wrote: > sk89q wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and I have been trying to get X11 forwarding >> through SSH to work. I've gotten to the point where the environment >> variable "DISPLAY" is set, but I get a "Can't open display" error when >> I attempt to run an X application. The remote server in question does >> not have an X server install. >> >> In /etc/ssh/ssh_config, I have the following lines: >> X11Forwarding yes >> AllowTcpForwarding yes >> UseLogin no >> > > Have a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config of the remote server and restart > sshd after modification. > > Peter > > -- > http://www.boosten.org > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 06:46:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071091065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D378FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.195] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F73B5C2EE36 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:47:26 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:46:27 +1000 Message-Id: <1232952388.32181.38.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Kino port fails to build on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:46:07 -0000 This may turn out to be a PR, but I'll check here quickly first and if I have no success I'll send to the -ports@. I tried installing kino from ports on an amd64 system but got the following errors after a few hours of building: In file included from h264.h:32, from h264.c:31: cabac.h: In function 'decode_significance_x86': cabac.h:693: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size cabac.h:694: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size cabac.h: In function 'decode_significance_8x8_x86': cabac.h:742: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size In file included from h264.c:8083: svq3.c: In function 'svq3_decode_slice_header': svq3.c:707: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:31: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:44: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:46: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:58: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:61: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10792: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10805: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10807: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10819: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10822: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10858: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10871: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10873: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10885: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10888: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10924: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10937: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10939: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10951: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10954: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:10990: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11003: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11005: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11017: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11020: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11055: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11068: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11070: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11082: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11085: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11115: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11128: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11130: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11142: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11145: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11175: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11188: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11190: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11202: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11205: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11235: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11248: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11250: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11262: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11265: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11295: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11308: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11310: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11322: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11325: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11670: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11683: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11685: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11697: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11700: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11817: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%edx,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11830: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11832: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%edx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11844: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11847: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11858: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%edx,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11871: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11873: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%edx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11885: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:11888: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12076: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12089: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12091: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12103: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12106: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12145: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12158: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12160: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12172: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12175: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12204: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12217: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12219: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12231: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12234: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12263: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12276: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12278: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12290: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12293: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12322: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12335: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12337: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12349: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12352: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12381: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12394: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12396: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12408: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12411: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12440: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12453: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12455: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12467: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12470: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12499: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12512: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12514: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12526: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12529: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12558: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12571: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12573: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12585: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12588: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12617: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12630: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12632: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12644: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12647: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12676: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12689: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12691: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12703: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12706: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12735: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12748: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12750: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12762: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12765: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12794: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12807: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12809: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12821: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12824: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12853: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12866: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12868: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12880: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:12883: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13149: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%edx,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13162: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13164: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%edx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13176: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13179: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13188: Error: `last_coeff_flag_offset_8x8(%edi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13193: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%edx,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13206: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13208: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%edx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13220: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:13223: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76139: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76152: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76154: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76166: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76169: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76198: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76211: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76213: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76225: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76228: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76254: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76267: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76269: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76281: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76284: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76309: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76322: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76324: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76336: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:76339: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:77915: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:77928: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:77930: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:77942: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:77945: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78649: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78662: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78664: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78676: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78679: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78712: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78725: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78727: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78739: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78742: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78773: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78786: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78788: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78800: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78803: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78848: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78861: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78863: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78875: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78878: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78911: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78924: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78926: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78938: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78941: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78972: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78985: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78987: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:78999: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79002: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79047: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79060: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79062: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79074: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79077: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79110: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79123: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79125: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79137: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79140: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79171: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79184: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79186: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79198: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79201: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79246: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79259: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79261: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79273: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79276: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79309: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79322: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79324: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79336: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79339: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79370: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79383: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79385: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79397: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79400: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79549: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79562: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79564: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79576: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79579: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79907: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79920: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79922: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79934: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79937: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79970: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79983: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79985: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:79997: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80000: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80027: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80040: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80042: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80054: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80057: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80083: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80096: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80098: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80110: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80113: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80198: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80211: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80213: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80225: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80228: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80261: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80274: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80276: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80288: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80291: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80318: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80331: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80333: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80345: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80348: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80374: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80387: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80389: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80401: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80404: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80479: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80492: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80494: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80506: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80509: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80542: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80555: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80557: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80569: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80572: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80599: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80612: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80614: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80626: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80629: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80655: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80668: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80670: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80682: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80685: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80760: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80773: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80775: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80787: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80790: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80823: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80836: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80838: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80850: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80853: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80880: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80893: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80895: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80907: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80910: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80936: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80949: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80951: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80963: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:80966: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:81317: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:81330: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:81332: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:81344: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:81347: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:82597: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:82610: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:82612: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:82624: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:82627: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83377: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83390: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83392: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83404: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83407: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83437: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83450: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83452: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83464: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83467: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83496: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83509: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83511: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83523: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:83526: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85779: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85792: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85794: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85806: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85809: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85851: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85864: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85866: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85878: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85881: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85912: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85925: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85927: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85939: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:85942: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86104: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86117: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86119: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86131: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86134: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86161: Error: `ff_h264_lps_range(%eax,%esi,2)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86174: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%esi)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86176: Error: `ff_h264_mlps_state+128(%eax)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86188: Error: `-1(%ebx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression {standard input}:86191: Error: `ff_h264_norm_shift(%ecx)' is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression gmake[3]: *** [h264.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/kino/work/kino-1.3.2/ffmpeg/libavcodec' gmake[2]: *** [lib] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/kino/work/kino-1.3.2/ffmpeg' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/kino/work/kino-1.3.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino. Would there be a way to install kino as i386- a switch perhaps? Or how would I go about fixing this? Also, Jahshaka is failing to build because its marked as broken (wont compile on gcc42). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 07:22:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6679A106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272B88FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20D516C0044; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:22:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0Q7M61q001562; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:22:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:22:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Rem P Roberti Message-Id: <20090126082205.8ccb6a89.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> References: <497D0B57.8040804@comcast.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delivering system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:22:13 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:01:11 -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote: > I currently have to retrieve crontab generated system mail from the command > line. Is it possible to have system mail delivered to my Thunderbird > mail client? In most cases, system mail will be sent to root. If you edit the file /etc/mail/aliases, you can redirect any mail sent to root to your local user account (/var/mail/) and then use TB to retrieve it from there (just as it would have been recieved by fetchmail). Don't forget to "make aliases" and restart the sendmail subsystem, see /etc/mail/Makefile for details. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 07:41:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E99106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EBF8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5078EAFC1FE; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:41:25 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:41:05 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> <497D4EA6.1020100@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <497D4EA6.1020100@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901252241.05483.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: josh.carroll@gmail.com, Doug Barton , cpghost Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:41:26 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 20:48:22 Doug Barton wrote: > Josh Carroll wrote: > > What I do is the following via make.conf, > > I think this is a good solution. Given that incredible foot-shooting > power of the -j stuff I am not inclined to add something like this to > portmaster, not even as an "advanced" option. Given the fact that the build target is presumably -j safe (as far as the ports system is concerned), it would be nice to have a BUILD_JOBS in Mk/bsd.port.mk similar to INDEX_JOBS that is already there. Port maintainers then can also set WITHOUT_PARALLEL (or USE_PARALLEL=NO etc) for ports that break by themselves (f.e. www/lynx, editors/vim). portmaster should then have no problem setting BUILD_JOBS on request. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 07:47:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25A2106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9566B8FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AAAAFC206; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:47:29 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:47:29 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901252128.VAA04563@sopwith.solgatos.com> In-Reply-To: <200901252128.VAA04563@sopwith.solgatos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901252247.29775.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Dieter Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:47:31 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 04:28:47 Dieter wrote: > >>>> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory > >>>> > So the machine doesn't normally use swap much at all, but messing with > the large ISO apparently kicked something out of memory, and the disk > with the swap partition was already busy writing at the other end of > the disk. > > Do you consider writing a large file to disk a "truly unspeakable" load? Just curious, since you're running 7.0: SCHED_4BSD or SCHED_ULE? And if you have a chance to change it, does the scenario persist? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 08:06:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679F7106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B728FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0Q873Xm073690; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:07:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:06:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:06:18 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:06:24 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 08:20:51PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Charlie Kester wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jan 2009 at 16:18:26 PST Gary Kline wrote: > >> > >> Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] > >> chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can build? > > > > pdfsam ( http://www.pdfsam.org/ ) does both splits and merges of pdf > > files, but it doesn't seem to be in the FreeBSD ports system. > > > > There is a pdfmerge in /usr/ports/print, but no pdfsplit. > > > > It's a very junky way to do it (but the only way I know), use pdf2ps to convert > the pdf to postscript, then you stand at least a good chance of doing the split, > which many utilities allow. You could even do it graphically via gv. The > problem with this (and the reason it might well fail anyhow) is because some > things that pdfs do aren't implemented in any standard postscript level I ever > heard of. It depends how many of the more recent extensions to pdf are being > used. I've done this, *sometimes*. > > Because the pdf spec is fully published, it might one day allow someone to write > a splitter, but because the spec is SO enormous, maybe they won't, either. > Actually, that's a really good notion ... I need to give it some thought. > > > -- Charlie > > > > Thanks, Gents, But according to one smallish pdf file that I send to a web based tool, it was not a real pdf. Or, more accurately, it (the pdf to speech program) couldn't decode it. I'll play around with this more tomorrow. The problem with a lot of this electronic paper is that the lines are sequeezed together. Makes scanning them that much more difficult. Last month I read a book [book-book, from the library!] with more ~1.5 spaces between lines, and even tho the font was small, no problem in reading the entire text. ((FWIW: I'll find the URL of a piece on Hegelian ethics --PDF-- and see if the firefox speech site can grok that!)) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 08:16:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C74106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB1F8FC21 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED2816C0177; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:16:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0Q8GNOg003338; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:16:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:16:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:16:32 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:06:18 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Thanks, Gents, > > But according to one smallish pdf file that I send to a web based > tool, it was not a real pdf. Or, more accurately, it (the pdf to > speech program) couldn't decode it. This is a typical problem with "poorly engineered" PDFs where the author puts in the text as images (you'll see this stupidity across the Web, too). A good tool to check if the PDF file can be (audibly) read is the use of the tool pdftotext from the port xpdf. % pdftotext bla.pdf && less bla.txt Then, even the FF speech plugin should work correctly - as long as the PDF file contains decodable text. If it's just a bunch of images, well, what are we expecting, hm? FF-speech: "You see a pretty image of some text..." :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 08:38:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531DB106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4628FC18 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 88e11b0080EPchoA28eKrU; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:38:19 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 88eJ1b0020Yq9Sc8M8eJwF; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:38:19 +0000 Message-ID: <497D7682.10104@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:38:26 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Updates / Upgrades X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:38:19 -0000 Hi all, I have installed FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on two of my systems. One of them (This one I'm using) is a PC I use as one of my main desktops. The other I decided on after wanting to keep safe with my main one which has important data on it, so I decided to use another machine and do an install so I could test out patches and updates on it before applying them to this machine so that if something happened during the updates I wouldn't lose this machine and could just format the other machine if something really crashed or had a really huge error, and basically use this machine as production and that one as the test for things so I don't break / screw up anything. Anyway, I used a tool like this: #update-scan It gave me a list of ports and things to update and how to do it. Thing is, when I took the advice of what the application said, and did what it said, it still shows it. I moved over to the test machine and grabbed the application and ran it to see what I could do, and noticed I did miss the first step, so I figured that was the problem, and used my test machine to do an update for Perl. I saw it had two things to do to upgrade those packages, so I did step one, then, did step two. I figured this would remove it from the list of packages that need an upgrade, and after a few hours of downloading some stuff off my FTP server (MP3s, no software) I rebooted the machine. I was surprised to find Perl still listing to do the exact same thing. So this time I did this: portupgrade -a It said I needed to run the pkgdb thing, so I did. Once it finished and fixed up a few apps that needed something or other, I ran it again: portupgrade -a After a while, it started going and I figured everything would be done and I could update my main box after checking to be sure that the patches didn't break anything. Trouble is, after the reboot, I noticed that it still listed all of them. I'm almost certain the problem is me. So my question is, what am I doing wrong? I'm no guru or BSD hacker, but I am a competent user of Unix systems and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I'm a LITTLE new to doing on the fly upgrades like this I'll admit. Before I'd just wait for a new version of FreeBSD to come out, like say 6.0 - 6.x and just do a fresh install after backing up the small things I need and call it a day. So can someone please either type, copy and paste, or link me, to some info on doing updates and upgrades and patches so I can keep my system updated? BOTH machines are running FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE and both have almost the same software installed on them. I'd like to find out because I'm really enjoying 7.1, it has to be by far the best release I've used to date. portupgrade -a used to do all this for me and take a while, but I'm not sure what is going on with this one. Thanks for any help, -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 10:01:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38001106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31378FC19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.195] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C189D5C2F409 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:02:32 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497D7682.10104@comcast.net> References: <497D7682.10104@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:01:20 +1000 Message-Id: <1232964081.41990.7.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Updates / Upgrades X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:01:13 -0000 On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 03:38 -0500, Akenner wrote: > Hi all, > > I have installed FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE > on two of my systems. One of them (This one I'm using) is a PC I use as > one of my main desktops. The other I decided on after wanting to keep > safe with my main one which has important data on it, so I decided to > use another machine and do an install so I could test out patches and > updates on it before applying them to this machine so that if something > happened during the updates I wouldn't lose this machine and could just > format the other machine if something really crashed or had a really > huge error, and basically use this machine as production and that one as > the test for things so I don't break / screw up anything. > > Anyway, I used a tool like this: > > #update-scan > > It gave me a list of ports and things to update and how to do it. Thing > is, when I took the advice of what the application said, and did what it > said, it still shows it. > > I moved over to the test machine and grabbed the application and ran it > to see what I could do, and noticed I did miss the first step, so I > figured that was the problem, and used my test machine to do an update > for Perl. I saw it had two things to do to upgrade those packages, so I > did step one, then, did step two. > > I figured this would remove it from the list of packages that need an > upgrade, and after a few hours of downloading some stuff off my FTP > server (MP3s, no software) I rebooted the machine. > > I was surprised to find Perl still listing to do the exact same thing. > So this time I did this: > > portupgrade -a > > It said I needed to run the pkgdb thing, so I did. > > Once it finished and fixed up a few apps that needed something or other, > I ran it again: > > portupgrade -a > > After a while, it started going and I figured everything would be done > and I could update my main box after checking to be sure that the > patches didn't break anything. > > Trouble is, after the reboot, I noticed that it still listed all of them. > > I'm almost certain the problem is me. So my question is, what am I doing > wrong? I'm no guru or BSD hacker, but I am a competent user of Unix > systems and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. > > I'm a LITTLE new to doing on the fly upgrades like this I'll admit. > Before I'd just wait for a new version of FreeBSD to come out, like say > 6.0 - 6.x and just do a fresh install after backing up the small things > I need and call it a day. > > So can someone please either type, copy and paste, or link me, to some > info on doing updates and upgrades and patches so I can keep my system > updated? > > BOTH machines are running FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE and both have almost the > same software installed on them. I'd like to find out because I'm really > enjoying 7.1, it has to be by far the best release I've used to date. > > portupgrade -a used to do all this for me and take a while, but I'm not > sure what is going on with this one. > > Thanks for any help, > It can be tricky at first, and I'm not sure about the update-scan utility you're using. Check out the handbook and just run the directions from there: portsnap fetch portsnap update (or you can run "portsnap fetch update" in one go) then freebsd-update fetch freebsd-update install (or all in one as above) then (assuming you've installed portupgrade as you mentioned above) portupgrade -a then reboot. If this doesn't work post back your errors and we can help you debug. If there are no errors in running these steps then all is good! :) If you want to check your programs are up to date then run the portsnap steps again and run pkg_version -v. The freebsd-update steps will tell you whether FreeBSD is up to date. HTH and good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 10:16:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4486C106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60EE8FC1D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from anubis.getmyip.com (anubis.getmyip.com [78.46.33.178]) by mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7407A70015D8; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:16:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from 130.149.220.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user smellmann) by anubis.getmyip.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:16:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <38577.130.149.220.164.1232964978.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> In-Reply-To: <20090125153358.X90458@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090122120027.4E186106570D@hub.freebsd.org> <20090125153358.X90458@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:16:18 +0100 (CET) From: "Sebastian Mellmann" To: "Ian Smith" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:16:20 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:10:09 +0100 (CET) > > > > So far I've got those rules: > > > > in_if="em0" > > out_if="em1" > > management_if="em2" > > in_ip="100.100.100.1" > > out_ip="200.200.200.1" > > management_ip="172.16.0.201" > > client1_subnet="192.168.5.0/26" > > client2_subnet="192.168.6.0/26" > > server_subnet="192.168.7.0/24" > > > > download_bandwidth="6144Kbit/s" > > upload_bandwidth="1024Kbit/s" > > delay="0" > > queue_size="10" > > 10 slots ie packets is likely too small a queue size at these rates. > You want to check the dropped packet stats from 'ipfw pipe show' re > that; see the section in ipfw(8) about calculating sizes / delays. > I had a look at the ipfw howto on the freebsd site [1], but I'm not 100% sure how to choose a "good" value for the queue size. If I choose the default (50 packets) it means that it takes approx. 100ms (600kbits / 6144kbits) to fill the queue. So the question is: Which value to choose for the queue? > I suggest using 'in recv' and 'out xmit' rather than via for these, for > the sake of clarity. 'in recv' and 'in via' come to the same thing, as > only the receive interface is known on inbound packets, but 'out via' > applies to packets that were *received* on the specified interface as > well as those going out on that interface after routing, which can lead > to surprising results sometimes, and being more specific never hurts .. Thanks for the hint. I'll change that. > > But when I have a look at the pipes with 'ipfw show' I can only see > > packets go through the pipe 50 and nothing goes through the other pipes > > (which makes sense actually since IPFW work that way?). > > IPFW works that way if you (likely) have net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 .. so > that packets exiting from pipes aren't seen by the firewall again. If > you set one_pass=0, packets are reinjected into the firewall at the rule > following the pipe (or queue) action, which is what you want to do here. Actually this is also described in the manpage of ipfw(8). Shame on me ;-) > And you'll surely need a much larger queue for this pipe, at 100Mbit/s. > As already asked above: How do I know the queue is large or small enough for my needs? > cheers, Ian Regards, Sebastian [1] http://www.freebsd-howto.com/HOWTO/Ipfw-HOWTO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 11:33:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A889106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014978FC19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A1D5A8B; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:23:32 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:33:21 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: Mel Message-ID: <20090126113321.GA2944@screwed.box> References: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail devfs openpty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:33:25 -0000 You'll never silence the voice of the voiceless, Mel! Probably that was caused by overall instability of my 7.1 system: === # devfs -m /jailpath/dev rule apply path ttyp* unhide # chroot /jailpath/ # ls /dev dsp0.1 lpt0 mixer0 random ttyp1 ttyp3 ttyp5 zero log lpt0.ctl null ttyp0 ttyp2 ttyp4 urandom # script script: openpty: Resource temporarily unavailable # exit exit # devfs -m /jailpath/dev rule apply path pty* unhide # chroot /jailpath/ # script script: openpty: Permission denied # exit exit # devfs -m /jailpath/dev rule apply path * unhide devfs rule: unknown argument: Desktop # devfs -m /jailpath/dev rule apply type tty unhide # chroot /jailpath/ # script Script started, output file is typescript # exit Script done, output file is typescript # exit exit # === Now this seem to work, after the reboot. Although I'd like to ask if I used the major/minor numbers for temporary rules when portupgraded the 5/6 systems, what kind of rule I should specify to avoid 'openpty' reason of script(1) failure? Which tty devices does it use? You may see I try the path pty* and path ttyp* without that luck though. Major/minor numbers are gone since some of 6.X. 2009/01/25 17:08:14 -0900 Mel => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : M> On Sunday 25 January 2009 02:25:17 Peter Vereshagin wrote: M> > Hello, M> > M> > I am doing the portupgrade inside my jail. M> > I see that script(1) have no permission on openpty. M> > I deleted all the devfs rules on tha jail's /dev both by hand and by M> > deleting the ruleset string in master's rc.conf. So i stopped jail and M> > mounted devfs by hand. Started jail. It appears to work, the portupgrade. I M> > suppose that if mounted with /etc/rc.d/jail the devfs has some tweak that M> > makes it different from mounted by hand. M> M> Are you sure that's the problem? M> When going inside a jail with jexec(8) there is no /dev/tty. You have to login M> using ssh to get fully functional tty's. M> M> -- M> Mel M> M> Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules M> and never get to the software part. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 11:49:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885791065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE8E8FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ACB5A8F; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:39:40 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:49:28 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: Mel Message-ID: <20090126114928.GB2944@screwed.box> References: <20090125113516.GB33731@screwed.box> <200901251706.15683.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901251706.15683.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail init, but another question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:49:31 -0000 You'll never silence the voice of the voiceless, Mel! Yes. Ruleset name did not resolve into the number. So rc.subr asked for a digit and I provided a number that way. It was too obvious for me to specify the 'devfsrules_' prefix for the case it cannot be anything other than devfs rules. And so it did not resolve by provided meaningful part ( e. g., 'example' ) of ruleset name only. Thanks! 2009/01/25 17:06:15 -0900 Mel => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : M> Something else is wrong. Set rc_debug="YES" in /etc/rc.conf then M> /etc/rc.d/jail start example M> to trace how the rulesets are evaluated. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 12:04:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046C110656CE for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFD18FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QC4DFP069224; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0QC4DB4069221; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:13 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:04:59 -0000 > I don't want to raise an argument here (on multiple levels, no less...), > but what would the compatibility be between FreeBSD (release) and > Solaris? > > Why I ask is Adobe have released a version of flash for Solaris, and I'm > wondering if this might work better than the linux_compat types. I tried it's nonsense to FreeBSD developers to do workaround just because adobe don't want to make FreeBSD binary. If they don't want to make, then they DONT WANT US to use their product. They DO HAVE RIGHT to do so, and please respect their rights! PS. Of course it's nonsense what they do, but again it's their right to do stupid things From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 12:07:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8A8106579E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F788FC2F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22005A8B; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:57:57 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:07:46 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: Mel Message-ID: <20090126120746.GA15139@screwed.box> References: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail devfs openpty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:08:02 -0000 You'll never silence the voice of the voiceless, Mel! Sorry the script(1) did work, but stopped since the portupgrade tried it: === # portupgrade -varRp ---> Session started at: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:58:54 +0400 [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 190 packages found (-0 +1) . done] ** Port marked as IGNORE: mail/cclient: is forbidden: multiple vulnerabilities http://www.vuxml.org/freebsd/a6713190-dfea-11dd-a765-0030843d3802.html http://www.vuxml.org/freebsd/69a20ce4-dfee-11dd-a765-0030843d3802.html ---> Upgrade of mail/courier-imap started at: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:59:40 +0400 ---> Upgrading 'courier-imap-4.3.1,2' to 'courier-imap-4.4.1,2' (mail/courier-imap) ---> Build of mail/courier-imap started at: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:59:40 +0400 ---> Building '/usr/ports/mail/courier-imap' script: openpty: Permission denied === Same as with script(1) by hand now. I do all this in chroot. No difference if under gnu screen or in ttyv4. 2009/01/25 17:08:14 -0900 Mel => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : M> On Sunday 25 January 2009 02:25:17 Peter Vereshagin wrote: M> > Hello, M> > M> > I am doing the portupgrade inside my jail. M> > I see that script(1) have no permission on openpty. M> > I deleted all the devfs rules on tha jail's /dev both by hand and by M> > deleting the ruleset string in master's rc.conf. So i stopped jail and M> > mounted devfs by hand. Started jail. It appears to work, the portupgrade. I M> > suppose that if mounted with /etc/rc.d/jail the devfs has some tweak that M> > makes it different from mounted by hand. M> M> Are you sure that's the problem? M> When going inside a jail with jexec(8) there is no /dev/tty. You have to login M> using ssh to get fully functional tty's. M> M> -- M> Mel M> M> Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules M> and never get to the software part. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 12:30:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4384106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas.xanke@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367CB8FC2C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas.xanke@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB71316C02BA; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:12:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0QCCc9d005093; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:12:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas.xanke@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:12:37 +0100 From: Andreas Xanke To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090126131237.f38c572c.andreas.xanke@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andreas Xanke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:30:43 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:13 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > it's nonsense to FreeBSD developers to do workaround just because adobe=20 > don't want to make FreeBSD binary. >=20 > If they don't want to make, then they DONT WANT US to use their product. > They DO HAVE RIGHT to do so, and please respect their rights! >=20 > PS. Of course it's nonsense what they do, but again it's their right to d= o=20 > stupid things I do share this point of view, but sadly, an open system like the Web has been polluted and made unusable (or at least has the tendency to be this way) for those who cannot access this propretary product / format. Don't get me wrong, I've played a bit with "Flash" on FreeBSD, found it useless and am living happily now without it, without getting bothered to install strange "Plugins" or "Extensions" all day long. The day "Flash" will be an open standard and will be integrated into browsers (such as graphic formats are, or even other media), then I'll think about it again, for sure. But as long as something that unimportant hooks so deeply into the system that it's hard work to create workarounds to use it (swfdecoder, linux-flash, gnash etc.), it simply isn't worth thinking about. Or could you imagine that a company would release some software that makes it possible to view PNG images within a webpage, but your OS isn't intended to have support for this, because it would require the modification of the OS kernel? :-) --=20 "Die Rechtschreibreform ist v=F6llig in Ordnung, wenn man weder lesen noch schreiben kann." (Loriot) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 12:42:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDDD106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250B88FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5947873rvf.43 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0WYZ1JU3cufIfxZqbh1cVfRBOpNtN2Hx5PU0n9QW7I4=; b=FFkba1KcU2ZXLJrGHvHlQW0QDA3jfHutVSETBgqKgqCAhVCuPR3/5UPUExW6BuTQbO 9Yi/UyBFiJUbvK6UQPWV4A2+JYVLtOWZWLjkW5/LCIHRc7Xc2KjTFNz56cCjE2pGsWuo 2z/a1jWFz7Xse/OB6TMqPWybFzPfRr6Lhysqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ty/aZ0fynq4bP4HYmX/JesHg0a5Yo4nLhEbVaV8q0wuOFfpWXsWQJpuhsFcTR/f1PW Doh2FPft8nNaNsviMbnJcpj7drmIeUsIxr5Z9K9yatRExwJW9QR+JpkaSCbOXs42YxjK 0gm+w7LfHnAu96vT3Onyr+at3Qo9tdeNDpaz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.37.8 with SMTP id p8mr1671826rvj.227.1232973763763; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:42:43 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cbeb81f395f554ba Message-ID: <9a52b1190901260442i5c268754xb46e6e9f64127076@mail.gmail.com> From: Saifi Khan To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how to install all p5-* one shot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:42:44 -0000 Hi all: There are many PERL packages in ports whose names are prefixed with p5-* . How does one install all the p5-* packages one shot ? Is there a way one can do it with the options available in ports or does one need to write a script to locate all the dir names starting with p5-* ? Any pointer in this direction will be appreciated. -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 12:48:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56A61065675 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5988FC1D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31345A8F; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:38:43 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:48:31 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: Mel Message-ID: <20090126124831.GA3578@screwed.box> References: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail devfs openpty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:48:34 -0000 It appeared to work after rule apply unhide. Will find out more. Just how to delete or view the ruleset? Thanks. 2009/01/25 17:08:14 -0900 Mel => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : M> On Sunday 25 January 2009 02:25:17 Peter Vereshagin wrote: M> > Hello, M> > M> > I am doing the portupgrade inside my jail. M> > I see that script(1) have no permission on openpty. M> > I deleted all the devfs rules on tha jail's /dev both by hand and by M> > deleting the ruleset string in master's rc.conf. So i stopped jail and M> > mounted devfs by hand. Started jail. It appears to work, the portupgrade. I M> > suppose that if mounted with /etc/rc.d/jail the devfs has some tweak that M> > makes it different from mounted by hand. M> M> Are you sure that's the problem? M> When going inside a jail with jexec(8) there is no /dev/tty. You have to login M> using ssh to get fully functional tty's. M> M> -- M> Mel M> M> Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules M> and never get to the software part. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 12:55:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0290106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9978FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRR0I-0003TZ-LH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:53 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRR0C-0001Pe-Oi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:44 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QCth8D000327 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:44 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0QCtUt6000326 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:30 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:29 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126125528.GA292@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: overwriting NOT_FOR_ARCHS via /etc/make.conf has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:55 -0000 I'm trying to overwrite a Makefile variable via /etc/make.conf It doesn't seem to work: # cd /usr/ports/lang/gcc43 # grep NOT Makefile NOT_FOR_ARCHS= alpha ia64 # grep -C1 NOT /etc/make.conf .if ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc4*} NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64 .endif # make ===> gcc-4.3.3_20090122 does not run on alpha ia64, while you are running alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc43. # What am I doing wrong? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 12:58:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E801065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F718FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5953196rvf.43 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:58:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cc+GY5o4GikLuNkubFSaN0KurcSvirAPFbn0jKaVSQQ=; b=SfMbYMoJTQhdd0w16INUTRJSWlFJtQRolrGXb1Xc28RBxoko8X/KsVuPq5XGNPRhL/ rad2Y1psPGZ0AhWrpaCsQ5RbFbHfBye/HgQT99OA0HoBZWSeMuIYU1vrs8T6iORmbjnZ qlcHTknBTuKcaOiigVXToOSpyKao96OFae0hM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dUUnLV0ukMy3rNkUAmfjeF5gl61neSuriL+57UiWdTsaCRPG2IwH0xiGXE/LiqBQR9 yWQcGFsZTKqwXeZLGD3+Z2TEIGYdszLjp7hpcKHJbiff6LGg7xFFsZWAOMlweHt0yPgu qkgII9vzx9c0laOoP1gqmn0fdSEIx2SQYhhNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.101.16 with SMTP id d16mr6822275rvm.277.1232974735474; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:58:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9a52b1190901260442i5c268754xb46e6e9f64127076@mail.gmail.com> References: <9a52b1190901260442i5c268754xb46e6e9f64127076@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:58:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to install all p5-* one shot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:58:56 -0000 2009/1/26 Saifi Khan : > Hi all: > > There are many PERL packages in ports whose names are prefixed with p5-* . > > How does one install all the p5-* packages one shot ? > > Is there a way one can do it with the options available in ports > or does one need to write a script to locate all the dir names > starting with p5-* ? > > Any pointer in this direction will be appreciated. % cd /usr/ports % find . -name "p5\-*" | wc -l 3360 Good idea? Then try: % sudo portmaster -i */p5\-* - Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 13:04:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CEB106568A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A048C8FC2B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.195] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542ED5C2E5C6 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:05:56 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090126131237.f38c572c.andreas.xanke@edvax.de> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126131237.f38c572c.andreas.xanke@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:04:44 +1000 Message-Id: <1232975084.41990.12.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:37 -0000 On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 13:12 +0100, Andreas Xanke wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:13 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > it's nonsense to FreeBSD developers to do workaround just because adobe > > don't want to make FreeBSD binary. > > > > If they don't want to make, then they DONT WANT US to use their product. > > They DO HAVE RIGHT to do so, and please respect their rights! > > > > PS. Of course it's nonsense what they do, but again it's their right to do > > stupid things > > I do share this point of view, but sadly, an open system like > the Web has been polluted and made unusable (or at least has the > tendency to be this way) for those who cannot access this > propretary product / format. > > Don't get me wrong, I've played a bit with "Flash" on FreeBSD, > found it useless and am living happily now without it, without > getting bothered to install strange "Plugins" or "Extensions" > all day long. The day "Flash" will be an open standard and will > be integrated into browsers (such as graphic formats are, or > even other media), then I'll think about it again, for sure. > But as long as something that unimportant hooks so deeply into > the system that it's hard work to create workarounds to use > it (swfdecoder, linux-flash, gnash etc.), it simply isn't > worth thinking about. > > Or could you imagine that a company would release some software > that makes it possible to view PNG images within a webpage, but > your OS isn't intended to have support for this, because it would > require the modification of the OS kernel? :-) Understandable. Try clipsal.com , or try freeview.com.au - and this is just a few of the sites and organisations I deal with that don't offer workarounds (and I have said words to them regarding accessibility). Unfortunately, some organisations don't believe flash is that unaccessible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 13:23:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A598106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9728FC1C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5962557rvf.43 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:23:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tMCupmXR3EoD3sc3R6XjNkWBNDZ6WfPNVhB8h/AeS0o=; b=D4kTTgfejdhubdt4puMCdXTG2yPMQc+3C1XgonOTpyxr44/3d7VT4RQ71Hotlur1Zz zO8GeVv2G28RiBMle3sHpFLMBbsoIceKIK7XckexoNaTz5sc/yqcEu3ttLljQbr+IxAd BSneV86W+FX9JplWTTpH3ArB0AHzhSvN/GnQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QEfk/duhw7aRzLIRlk4PVAvWIR4zIPIi3OTAfdJesRGnOahPSftZ/RRsGUn6+xX+qb pVfIRnKg8ddCsa7PtG3GKYoqPs/dnFqm2r/lA/igeABPz5MoHp3o0IWfVxHegrpiAbge ptDCAI29v+0ocTrtUdGzdHqhuvIlch+VJCx7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.27.16 with SMTP id e16mr1130529rvj.219.1232976211822; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:23:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9a52b1190901260442i5c268754xb46e6e9f64127076@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:23:31 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c3c25b1763533f5b Message-ID: <9a52b1190901260523r17cc1f99waf42ee0f9e298057@mail.gmail.com> From: Saifi Khan To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to install all p5-* one shot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:23:32 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > 2009/1/26 Saifi Khan : >> Hi all: >> >> There are many PERL packages in ports whose names are prefixed with p5-* . >> >> How does one install all the p5-* packages one shot ? >> >> Is there a way one can do it with the options available in ports >> or does one need to write a script to locate all the dir names >> starting with p5-* ? >> >> Any pointer in this direction will be appreciated. > > % cd /usr/ports > % find . -name "p5\-*" | wc -l > 3360 > > Good idea? Then try: > > % sudo portmaster -i */p5\-* > > - Herbert Thanks Herbert. I'd did not know about 'portmaster' until you mentioned in your mail. Wow, so i got cvsup, portsnap and now portmaster :) -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 13:29:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE20106572E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD068FC29 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0QDTk7A038245; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:29:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:29:45 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE490@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: how to install all p5-* one shot Thread-Index: Acl/udoBEO/Dd/QjQzK53oTjFX9ojgAABvag References: <9a52b1190901260442i5c268754xb46e6e9f64127076@mail.gmail.com> <9a52b1190901260523r17cc1f99waf42ee0f9e298057@mail.gmail.com> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Saifi Khan" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: how to install all p5-* one shot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:29:56 -0000 >> 2009/1/26 Saifi Khan : >>> Hi all: >>> >>> There are many PERL packages in ports whose names are prefixed with = p5-* . >>> >>> How does one install all the p5-* packages one shot ? >>> >>> Is there a way one can do it with the options available in ports >>> or does one need to write a script to locate all the dir names >>> starting with p5-* ? >>> >>> Any pointer in this direction will be appreciated. >> >> % cd /usr/ports >> % find . -name "p5\-*" | wc -l >> >> >> Good idea? Then try: >> >> % sudo portmaster -i */p5\-* >> >> - Herbert >Thanks Herbert. >I'd did not know about 'portmaster' until you mentioned in your mail. >Wow, so i got cvsup, portsnap and now portmaster :) >--=20 >thanks >Saifi. I don't think (i am actually sure) that you can not install all the p5-* = ports. A lot of ports conflict with each other.=20 So it is better to install the p5-* ports you actually need. And the good thing about the ports tree is that they will be when = installing software that require those p5-* ports. Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1915 - Release Date: = 25-1-2009 18:13 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:00:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57AD1065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1DE8FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ACC3CCA2; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:00:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0QE0JrX005560; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:00:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:00:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:00:44 -0000 Dear list, I'm starting to make myself unpopular today. :-) On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:51 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > fortunately it's only tendency to "trendy" software like KDE. not for all > unix software. But sadly for the most software that is used for real productivity, such as media players, programming environments, or even web browsers and mail clients. > and definitely NOT for FreeBSD OS inself, that gets > same or faster every release on THE SAME machine! Exactly, that's why I'm such a happy FreeBSD user, or, to be honest, HAVE BEEN, because I think... well, sometimes I could crash the stupid box against the wall because things that worked well years ago when I setup the system with "old" software aren't possible with "modern" software anymore, and that's a thing I cannot believe. Evolution is good, but what if it's not only about adding, fixing and optimizing things, but making things impossible, due to handling or dropping of functionalities? In this regards, FreeBSD always was / is good: A solid OS base where certain things can be EXPECTED to work. Up to today, I haven't found an operating environment that serves me as good as FreeBSD did in the past. FreeBSD in the "equation of speed": Hardware --------- = speed++ FreeBSD-- And yes, I think I could notice the speed improvement in the past. Improvements in performance and startup speed are always welcome, allthough they're not a major issue to me. As long as it works flawlessly in general, I'm happy. :-) > it's not unix problem. it's problem of people that like to have their unix > be "like windows" so it is :) I cannot imagine one (!) reason why I would like to have my UNIX to be like "Windows", I'm happy it NOT like "Windows". :-) (These words from a man who has never used "Windows", so I'm not spoiled with its strange concepts or assumptions about how things should be done.) > what exactly software you rebuild and found slower (except KDE/Gnome > bloatware) ? You're inviting me to complain. :-) Before I will start, I may say that I often heared that "KDE is an excellent development platform", so I tried it out, especially because of KDEvelop which I found quite interesting (running it without KDE). KDE and Gnome are simply too much for my machine - end for me. So much stuff I don't need and don't want (such as automounting devices, this is - in terms of security - not wanted on my system). And all that stuff that comes bundled with it that I even don't know about... And I think Gnome isn't much better due to Gtk 2 and its huge pile of dependencies. People keep saying that XFCE 4 would be good for a lightweight desktop, but it uses Gtk 2, too, so same problem here. Okay, when your weight is 200kg, then 150kg may be "lightweight", but not compared to mankind's average. :-) KDE wouldn't let me utilize the keys on my Sun USB Type 6 keyboard anymore. I've always been a fan of lightweight software (and I MEAN lightweight), such as WindowMaker, an excellent window manager, and all the programs that do not have a K or a G in the name. :-) Now, let's start complaining. It will be a looong list, and I have to admit that I've not found the motivation yet to fix the problems that can be fixed, allthough I'm sure not all of them can be fixed. Introduction: I've used FreeBSD 5.4-p something since I set it up some years ago, and up to July 2008 when an inode crashed my life, the universe, and everything, the system ran fine so I had no reason to update anything. Machine is an Intel P4 with 2 GHz and 768 MB SDR-SDRAM (yes, I know, I'm too mean to buy DDR1-SDRAM for this). GPU is an ATI Radeon 9200 / RV250 AGP. Sound is CMI. First I found that compiling lasts much longer. I know that the new C compiler does much more optimization, but compile times have almost doubled - remember, we're talking about the same hardware configuration, no change. Some numbers: FreeBSD 7 --------- buildkernel KERNCONF 1:05:25.90 97.2% 1:11:05.53 94.4% buildworld 3:54:15.31 96.8% installkernel KERNCONF 0:46.89 63.9% ... make update ... buildkernel KERNCONF -D USBDEBUG 1:58:29.08 64.7% buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF -D USBDEBUG 6:06:03.90 86.9% 7:19:49.24 78.2% installkernel KERNCONF 1:11.85 43.1% buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF 6:01:33.44 90.1% 6:19:33.55 92.8% 7:39:11.57 82.0% 9:12:00.28 65.1% FreeBSD 5 --------- buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF 5:46:42.25 96.4% buildworld buildkernel KERNCONF 5:46:30.40 95.9% buildkernel KERNCONF 43:42.15 97.6% I will need to have a look at my kernel configuration file. In some regards, my knowledge is still on the standpoint of FreeBSD 5 and I've got to learn some new things. With FreeBSD 7, my Sun hardware (Type 6 keyboard and mouse) aren't recognized anymore, allthough they work. I have been told that this is a hardware issue (due to poor engineering on Sun's site), but I can't find any reason why it worked on FreeBSD 4, 5 and 6 before and stopped with FreeBSD 7. Usually, I get this: % dmesg | grep "^u[mk]" ums0: on uhub1 ums0: 3 buttons. ukbd0: on uhub1 But it should be this: % dmesg | grep "^u[mk]" ums0: Sun Microsystems Type 6 USB mouse, rev 1.00/1.02, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons ukbd0: Sun Microsystems Type 6 USB keyboard, rev 1.00/1.02, addr 3, iclass 3/1 The corresponding strings haven't disappeared from the usbdevs file in the kernel source... And burncd doesn't work on my CD/DVD recorder anymore, but I have already made the switch to ATAPICAM oriented programs such as cdrecord and cdrdao. Now for X. The startup of X has been "improved" over the startup of XFree86. It now lasts almost 10s from "startx" to X. Launching WindowMaker needs no more than 1s of this time. But sadly, X cannot run 1400x1050 anymore. Autodetect does lead to stupid values such as 1024x800 or the like. So I created the xorg.conf myself and cannot, under NO circumstances, get 1400x1050 "hardcoded" in any way. My workaround: Start at 1152x864 (seems to be the maximum that's possible) and then have "xrandr --size 1400x1050" and "xrandr --fb 1400x1050" in ~/.xinitrc. Generally, everything on X is slower. Further fun with X that has already been discovered by others on that list: Whenever I switch to textmode and then back to X, the content of the edit buffer (that what you select with the left button and output with the middle button) gets output at the window where the mouse is! So if it is an X Terminal, the content of this buffer is in the terminal window. And oh joy oh fun, if it contains carriage returns, it even gets executed! Or when Opera has focus, the right click context menu is displayed. It can easily be checked with a text editor and something inside the edit buffer. Opera has long time been my favourite browser, but today, I tend to use Firefox more and more (FF2), but today, it it's terrible to open some tabs, because load goes up to 90% and more and Opera doesn't react anymore. The configuration dialogs are worse, if I compare them to older versions. And if I try to print pages, they look terrible (exceed page borders). Furthermore, it crashes more often than Opera 5 or 7. When Opera loads a page, the mouse pointer becomes ugly. Why does it have to override the system standard? Instead of the normal (black) mouse pointer, I get an ugly white one with an hourglass attached. Does it want to tell me something, time for tea? :-) Ah yes, and Firefox doesn't have a key combination to quit the program (such as every other program has, usually something like Ctrl-Q). Firefox has always been criticised for being slower than every other browser. I'm still sticking to Opera because I like the look and feel, the good keyboard support and the mouse gestures. Yes, I know some of them can be installed to FF as an addition, but... it's not the same! :-) Oh and printing, apsfilter, allthough equipped with the same settings as before, doesn't utilize the duplexer of my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex office class printer. It reqires me to pull paper cartridges (because it uses them, even if paper is in tray 1) and then put paper manually (!) into tray 1. What the hell? If I wanted this, I would have bought an ink-pee printer (electric paper feeder)! :-) I didn't change anything on the printer, I even have a second one that does misbehave the same way, but works correctly on my 300 MHz P2 FreeBSD 5 spare box. I know that most of these "improvements" come along when the developers decide to move to a new version of the toolkit, for example Gtk to Gtk 2, such as it has been in X-Chat. Try to follow this example (or try it by yourself): Normally, you have X-Chat with a startup dialog of the available IRC servers. In Gtk 1, you could double-click on an entry and it would connect to that server. If you click today with Gtk 2, once or twice, you can edit (!) the displayed name (that's what the server configuration dialog has been for in Gtk 1 where you could change display name, server settings and port etc.). Well, fine, let's not way you have a web browser open with some server and channel name you want to pste into this "hybrid list - input box". So you select it with the mouse, move focus to the list, click left and then, in order to output the buffer, press the middle button. What happens? Nothing! Yeah, super, wow! You need to enter the information MANUALLY! The same applies for the server settings dialog box that the Edit... button opens; here, instead of a regular input box, this "hybrid" is there again. Allthough I welcome the new layout (list on the left instead of tabs) of the new X-Chat, it's very uncomfortable to use. Now for mail. Sylpheed has always been a good mail client, easy to use and fast. It isn't anymore. Startup (Gtk 2, formerly 1) needs 5 seconds. After pressing the "Get" button to incorporate new mail (from /var/mail, I fetch separately via fetchmail) disables its whole GUI for several seconds, especially when retrieving 50 -- 100 messages from this list (per day). Another thing is the Gimp. I like the concept of NOT having a main window, but image windows, dialog windows and menus (!) arrangable on one or more desktops as I like it. Gimp startup (without loading a file) now lasts 15s. In order to get the menu, I click the right button inside the image. For the menu to show it needs further 3s. When trying to print with Gimp, it complains that it cannot access lpstat. Hello? Good morning? I don't have CUPS installed. And bringing up the printing dialog lasts 5s. The image viewer xzgv, a fine thing, now has problems displaying the file and directory icons on the left. Let's say the window is 800px in height, then all the images are visible (xzgv -tz). But if I scroll down that list, only the file names are shown, the icons are missing. Some multimedia stuff: mplayer is one of the finest players (and encoders) out there, or, in my opinion, THE finest. But now, when scrolling inside a movie, no matter if from a DVD, from a file, no matter which file format, the indicator bar doesn't update. Let's say I'm at the 1st quarter of a file, then the bar is [|||---------]. While I keep holding down cursor up or cuirsor left, this bar should move [||||||||----] until the end of the file. But now, allthough I can hear the sound "move", the bar AND the screen content doesn't update, so I could reach the file's end without knowing it. And OSD doesn't work anymore, but I don't care for this. Whenever I quit some programs (confirmed for: xmms, xzgv), the Num Lock light on the keyboard switches off, allthough the Num Lock state keeps active. I need to press the NumL key twice in order to get NumL state and indicator to match! This happens on some programs, but not on all of them. For a long time, StarOffice 5.2 was my tool of choice when I thought I needed something except LaTeX. It didn't matter that it brought its own desktop. For some time afterwards, versions 1.x of OpenOffice could be installed via pkg_add, including the german version. Since 2.x and now with 3.x, it seems that compiling it is required. I don't have an office package installed at the moment, I think I should look if AbiWord can be installed as a german version... (I prefer my system to be english-only, with this particular piece of software as the only exception.) Then, the Midnight Commander has been "improved". The command line now includes the full path, and for longer paths, column 70 is easily exceeded, making it useless because you can't write and edit commands correctly anymore (you're just seeing a five letter excerpt from it). Such stupid stuff, you see your path from one of the panels anyway! Ah yes, and sometimes it doesn't handle the terminal (background) output anymore, instead of displaying a program's output, it displays nothing, but the command is running, and this seems to happen if you "run" enough files using the mc.ext facility (e. g. pressing Enter on a mp3 file launched madplay in textmode and xmms in X mode) And if you then quit the MC and want to start it again, it displays "read (subshell_pty...): No such file or directory (2)" Sometimes, "killall mc" helps. And wine doesn't run my old games anymore. I'm talking abouth things like Jedi Knight II and the like. Even Mortyr or Descent 2 won't run. And if I run generic "Windows" applications (which I have to, for testing recovery software), instead of text I only get Boxes, Xes and circles. So wine has gotten nearly useless for me, allthough it had major improvements, at least in its version number. Enough for now, I'm getting angry. :-) I could surely find some more complains (and I may add them if they come to my mind). In the german language, we have an artifical term for this, it's called "verschlimmbessern" which means with the intention to make something better, it's made worse in fact. And that's how I see this "improvements"... It simply CANNOT BE that things run faster on my 5.x 300 MHz P2 with 256 MB RAM. So now a suggestion could be: Why don't I run XFree86 and all the software with the older version numbers that worked perfectly? Answer: Because I think that's impossible or at least much too complicated, so I'm crunching my teeth and accepting this situation, grrr... And most of today's applications are tied to the "modern" versions of many many libraries and other dependencies, so it's nearly impossible to run, say, XFree86 and a recent version of mplayer (requires x.org dependencies). Again, I know that some problems can be fixed (e. g. wine fonts maybe), but isn't it sad that it NEEDS fixing? I didn't encounter these problems with OLDER software, why do I have them with today's software? Don't get me wrong: I'm not toying around with "bleeding edge" software. I do setup a system ONCE and then don't touch it anymore because it simply works - that what I have FreeBSD for. (On servers, in opposite to my home desktop, I do of course follow the security updates for FreeBSD with freebsd-update and the neccessary updates for the installed programs with portupgrade.) > > THIS TO ALL FreeBSD DEVELOPERS: NOT YOUR FAULT! Every release of > > FreeBSD brought a higher bootup speed to my system, faster system > > services and better performance. > > INDEED. contrary to linux that it's mostly faster in artifical tests, > slower on everything else. contrary to NetBSD, (no idea about openbsd), > not mentioning Slowlaris :) Hey hey, Solaris is not that bad, it's my secondary OS (usually for professional use, not for the home desktop). :-) > that's why i use it! I prefer FreeBSD over Linux because of its tidy system layout, the well intended structures, the separation between OS and everything else, the excellent documentation (as a developer the Alpha and Omega!) and the look & feel as a real UNIX that does behave like a UNIX - and not a marketing demonstration. :-) > > But what about these advantages? They've got eaten up by all the > > applications installed, their libraries and especially their GUI > > toolkits. Nearly every Gtk application has been switched from > > Gtk 1 to Gtk 2, including more disk consuming libs and depencencies, > > slower program startup and slower reaction. > > unfortunately you are right. but you can use IMHO firefox with GTK1 This would be an exception, and maybe it would reduce in functionality. > are you sure there are no other problems with your system? No hardware problems (because I never changed something there), but maybe I should start over and build everything new with FreeBSD 7.1. I think I'll get a new HDD next month and then try it. As I described above: What Im encountering CAN'T be normal. > > On the other hand, there are "old" programs that seem to profit > > from the system's speed gain. That's why I love to use them instead > > of their "oversized brothers". > > so use them as long as you can - as i do. I would still run my 5.x system, I would change back ANY DAY. But it's impossible. I can't even get my files back due to "fsck_ffs: bad inode number 306176 to nextinode"! :-) > > Such an "oversized brother" is KDE 4. Don't get me wrong, please. > > so why do you use it? it's mostly useless even if it would be fast. I don't use it anymore. I tried it with PC-BSD, but then found the german language internationalization too bad and I quickly switched to english. I prefer a good english UI over a bad german one. (Gnome's i18n seems to be much better, just as a sidenote, I tried it out with some openSuSE live system CD.) > There is NO USE for it's "GUI", and it's programs are toys, not much > usable. KDE's philosophy seems to resemble the same concepts that have spoiled users who are long time "Windows" users: Put as much functions as possible into one program. Don't mind if it takes up half of your hard disk. Don't mind if it doesn't work completely, it's just important that you can click on something, no matter if the result is what you expect. :-) No, honestly: KDE involves too much work (changing settings) to get it the way I like it - while others may be completely comfortable with the default settings. So I'm much faster doing work "the old fashioned way", say, CLI and specific programs for each purpose. I think that's UNIX great advantage over all these "one program does everything" concepts. Sure, there are many little tools that seem to perform similar tasks, and you have to choose which one you'll use, but I enjoy HAVING that choice instead of being forced to use what someone else thinks I should use. Allthough KDE tries to integrate all the components, it often fails with it, for example, scaring german computer users with an english error message allthough "Deutsch" has already been selected as the "system language". > use separate programs for spreadsheets, word processors and similar > "office" work. I grew up with this spirit. =^_^= > > On an up-to-date hardware basis, it's surely a joy to use, fast > > you are wrong. it's slow on quad core intel with 4GB RAM. > i tested it. It was just an assumption so it wouldn't look like I did not like KDE in the first place. :-) > > and responsive. But if your system isn't from today, you don't > > gonna have fun with it. Around me, other users seem to favour > > Gnome instead of KDE because they are not willing to update their > > gnome is slow too. just a little bit less slow ;) Are we comparing desktop systems noch in magnitudes of "how much they suck"? :-) Okay well, that's how elections work here in Germany: you're voting for the party or the candidate that seems to be the smaller evil, allthough everyone knows that it / he IS evil. :-) > BTW are there somewhere available older version of opera package? :) It seems to be good to store /usr/ports/packages of older versions that habe been confirmed to work well, but if they can ever be installed on a newer system...? Okay, I hope I haven't bothered the list too much, but that's my revenge for 50 -- 100 messages per day. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:04:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB41065673 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB478FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69C83CCB3; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:04:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0QE4hPK005602; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:04:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:04:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090126150443.63f97233.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andreas Xanke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:04:46 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:04:13 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > it's nonsense to FreeBSD developers to do workaround just because adobe > don't want to make FreeBSD binary. > > If they don't want to make, then they DONT WANT US to use their product. > They DO HAVE RIGHT to do so, and please respect their rights! > > PS. Of course it's nonsense what they do, but again it's their right to do > stupid things I do share this point of view, but sadly, an open system like the Web has been polluted and made unusable (or at least has the tendency to be this way) for those who cannot access this propretary product / format. Don't get me wrong, I've played a bit with "Flash" on FreeBSD, found it useless and am living happily now without it, without getting bothered to install strange "Plugins" or "Extensions" all day long. The day "Flash" will be an open standard and will be integrated into browsers (such as graphic formats are, or even other media), then I'll think about it again, for sure. But as long as something that unimportant hooks so deeply into the system that it's hard work to create workarounds to use it (swfdecoder, linux-flash, gnash etc.), it simply isn't worth thinking about. Or could you imagine that a company would release some software that makes it possible to view PNG images within a webpage, but your OS isn't intended to have support for this, because it would require the modification of the OS kernel? :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:07:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17562106567A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CDB8FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492143CCC7; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:06:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0QE6mnK005611; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:06:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:06:48 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20090126150648.57c70940.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126125528.GA292@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090126125528.GA292@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: overwriting NOT_FOR_ARCHS via /etc/make.conf has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:07:01 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:29 +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm trying to overwrite a Makefile variable via /etc/make.conf > It doesn't seem to work: This behaviour is correct. The local makefiles have precedence before the /etc/make.conf settings. > What am I doing wrong? You could modify the port's Makefile itself, or create Makefile.local in the port's dicrectory with your specific settings, but I don't now if this mechanism is still supported. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:32:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59AE10656C2 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9C48FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 282D7EBC0A; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:32:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:32:42 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: sk89q Message-Id: <20090126093242.863c59b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <825770ac0901252217m74882871o543027b0e32b9eb8@mail.gmail.com> References: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> <497D51E6.2000904@boosten.org> <825770ac0901252217m74882871o543027b0e32b9eb8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Boosten Subject: Re: X11 forwarding through SSH: Can't open display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:32:48 -0000 In response to sk89q : > I meant sshd_config. Do you have the xauth package installed on the remote server? You don't need a full X install, but X11 forwarding won't work without xauth installed. > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Peter Boosten wrote: > > sk89q wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and I have been trying to get X11 forwarding > >> through SSH to work. I've gotten to the point where the environment > >> variable "DISPLAY" is set, but I get a "Can't open display" error when > >> I attempt to run an X application. The remote server in question does > >> not have an X server install. > >> > >> In /etc/ssh/ssh_config, I have the following lines: > >> X11Forwarding yes > >> AllowTcpForwarding yes > >> UseLogin no > >> > > > > Have a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config of the remote server and restart > > sshd after modification. > > > > Peter > > > > -- > > http://www.boosten.org > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:33:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0651065754 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekar2009@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f33.google.com (mail-gx0-f33.google.com [209.85.217.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F0E8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alekar2009@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so2955750gxk.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:33:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bzlMFrMNTdMzaKEvCpkRQ9+AyU0SVjFJBgMboAiDqDY=; b=DpxP3E2XN0Lvcr69Gh/bJEsLNfvWXgqsHeI/CCC3Bz5XWaJ4nPOOXxK12DCKUvdvv6 RyTQGlrPNySvXmM/OXfAWUaf8OIFlSc9G5MfosU6jtR7HPc2QsvuP5mvmgbshuTRNai+ voMZ6oFjXXIFA+R6Vaxl61U3D5VYWiXeJ81Bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t8ZoqNfEvP+RkxNaoxNpcKdNUWKWKUS88uaReGfaTJ97r4ZlBSnn1F5Mx0WbW7I1ke W+0bAIIVKh9VdmbIUf7/FakISMin07OH0yjhTJfe963zj/yAXChfyRXRN68MbWWk/yGH nL+aJP9nkNf+dp6dGcXBqBm2Mh3t+jsx4l77g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.152.17 with SMTP id z17mr1796442ybd.45.1232980406918; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:33:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497D1201.6060503@telenix.org> References: <700ff07a0901251351t629b9606g260447b4cbaef00b@mail.gmail.com> <20090126001710.688b53eb@gluon> <497D1201.6060503@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:33:26 +0200 Message-ID: <700ff07a0901260633n2b09d056n64cf6b1def013f04@mail.gmail.com> From: Alex Karpovic To: Chuck Robey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: hex editors, disk info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:33:28 -0000 > That in mind, what's wrong with bpatch? I've used it for binary patching, it > works just fine that that (if my first assumption is totally off-base). You > download from the device, change any required data, and (if the device allows > writes) write it back to the device. Of course, not all devices allow writes. It's a bit uncomfortable. Just for example: I need to search some signatures, which could be anywhere in 640Gb disk, and make some changes around them. And I don't have spare 640+ Gb to copy whole disk to. And even if I would have enough space, it is painfully slow to move 640Gb twice just to make ten minutes editing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:39:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852D71065688 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@firstkmh.co.uk) Received: from 1stkmhwebservices.co.uk (andromeda.1stkmhwebservices.co.uk [217.112.92.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ABF8FC1B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@firstkmh.co.uk) Received: from [84.45.213.116] (port=52798 helo=firstkmh.co.uk) by 1stkmhwebservices.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRSAz-0004mf-VV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:11:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.170] (unknown [192.168.1.170]) by firstkmh.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F1217910 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:11:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <497DC475.6040905@firstkmh.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:11:01 +0000 From: "Terry ( 1stKMH )" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "andromeda.1stkmhwebservices.co.uk", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Do you have anything obscure in make.conf ? When it fails in succession, does it fail *after* the last point of failure, or is it randomized? When was your last c(v)sup? Hi Glen the error seems randomized I did a fresh cvsup and moved make.conf out of the way and did all the clean up steps as per the handbook this morning and it still failed. The only thing the error has in common each time is [...] Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Subject: Buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:39:32 -0000 Do you have anything obscure in make.conf ? When it fails in succession, does it fail *after* the last point of failure, or is it randomized? When was your last c(v)sup? Hi Glen the error seems randomized I did a fresh cvsup and moved make.conf out of the way and did all the clean up steps as per the handbook this morning and it still failed. The only thing the error has in common each time is internal compiler error: in find_idf, Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 14:40:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FB31065679 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0531F8FC23 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090126142539.NCTE4821.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@haran.polands.org>; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:25:39 +0000 Received: from eden.polands.org (pccardwifi0.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QEPbIl045688; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:25:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <497DC7E1.4080201@polands.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:25:37 -0600 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090106) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net References: <200901251805.12600.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <497d4f10.Q/a15CDNMxuhS95v%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <497d4f10.Q/a15CDNMxuhS95v%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:40:46 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD >>> (6.3, 7.0) on different architectures (i386, SPARC64). >>> >>> What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all machines, >>> but preserving ports/packages for each version/architecture. >>> I also want to make rebuilding indexes run as fast as possible. >>> >>> Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3 ... > ... >> The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should >> fix those problems: >> PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} >> INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} > > To speed up building, it may also be useful to set WRKDIRPREFIX > to something like /var/ports or /var/tmp/ports, so that the work > directories are local rather than having to be accessed via NFS. > > Thank you very much! -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 15:04:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9026A106567C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB48FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so4067925mue.3 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:04:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=TOkhM1ELYiJwUDOGIytK/+mkZfi6v2/+KC5wd7ojIWg=; b=QJPkgn07e8mtK+J4oDfkj6QtO2eVPZKUQffTfo95+A988kqxIxOuZy1OUMxHkd94JP 40hr18ug+hfB3UXFl4sQos+IRiHP0gGBvyyf7vYVfHQXLYC87H9B4bJWeUtVK3YrPndu bHhC2K3VtWzP1QLipnPP++RY40rt1NFeQXEbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uT/ZIr3Ldc0Dj9M+gcqPXSfLCij0GknkZ6vguORl63wCQDzxVjej7i3UyT7mwXEGm7 QHrRlTBA/CQsFURXnsaQbd1K/FPimvIqzeoA6EdCIPSPuaM/dX1xHFMs39C32ZD7CBKR pTU40Op2EsjgP52W7ZWSEG64b7EjlyMhcdRXI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.9 with SMTP id z9mr295816fao.1.1232982253069; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:04:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:04:13 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400901260704m5be0dbfen7dcfc6c7a54dd665@mail.gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: All-in-One Web Application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:04:14 -0000 Hello, I am scratching my head here endlessly. We have a site where we have installed Joomla+Moodle+Mailman. These are three different applications. Isn't there one that is all-in-one (has all these features built int) for these? And now that guys are talking Web2.0, would there be one that is compliant? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 15:33:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC844106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A8F8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so2347765yxb.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:33:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7X79IkhnDOEcnARwMpJuHkj+d+iI7T5VTSer0miTml0=; b=o++5B34Yy1JykAhLw053Vzla5pTadufU/Q2AMsqYS3i8x0VXlS9rjO+UiqySotSIFV nl8nLWrOzNtC1HphKhNh1zNQ7PFPVZNA8sx3+TjILrUW1Tmmvdqein5nMTrLaoBrgBE7 pQU0cPp7avOEXhaEDn8w/MwZk48H4fyE4FJLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SU3qKoC5m5P+gZptnMAEtjv5vJlbeAOryEPkwFsh6mAoprVg1M0BljJuQvS56UXLIc EpkAT6ITyaQZ4YbnQ73ae2Acog1VZN1nAS5sqq56De+58FUsLt4Y3oYPXuDsBkzwq+Pp vRZMnOhG3cl3TpK1HdO46ag5bymG51DqVhUxI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.191.15 with SMTP id o15mr3356063ybf.217.1232982125827; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:02:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:02:05 +0100 Message-ID: <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> From: n j To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:33:11 -0000 Linus Torvalds on KDE4... [quote] Q: Another open source project that underwent a big change was KDE with version 4.0. They released a lot of fundamental architectural changes with 4.0 and it received some negative reviews. As a KDE user how has this impacted you? A: I used to be a KDE user. I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster I switched to GNOME. I hate the fact that my right button doesn't do what I want it to do. But the whole "break everything" model is painful for users and they can choose to use something else. I realise the reason for the 4.0 release, but I think they did it badly. They did so many changes it was a half-baked release. It may turn out to be the right decision in the end and I will re-try KDE, but I suspect I'm not the only person they lost. I got the update through Fedora and there was a mismatch from KDE 3 to KDE 4.0. The desktop was not as functional and it was just a bad experience for me. I'll revisit it when I reinstall the next machine which tends to be every six to eight months. The GNOME people are talking about doing major surgery so it could also go the other way. [/quote] Full story: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Software&articleId=9126619&taxonomyId=18&pageNumber=5 -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 15:52:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E398C1065672 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA048FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k32so2256658rnd.12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:52:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f3rERJ8+gsf0ZbyqPHHAi3gcC7kbIhjAiaiarEuA7qk=; b=e6Xzz92XPXWxdsHT6V10RdhkbUpbXOKHNYTXx36eu0/rLGbBpjIXKBoX+DA+QAA9Tc H+V40vK7ND8fZ5U7MeKu+AbkUZ5OtUbg76MYCItb0f2yU6OH7V1nODUGJBC1Id0f9Hm9 fCg6ga6sraMkMKqzJDuf6eVCz6mI8fnxZE3FQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x9XzdeIEmKrd30nKrQQkkosDwbIIBXfBQbmZQRbMKGhoPWS6so5beQglAjLJwHouBK OPQY6sV4i5ZnE/J45tqrGnNQlHH2349McNFgBu84yR8FIknFsGokxLddu8ylBER/Xz/y se4MeOp3xc+zWOrpZKNzMyXoeYL25tTb0YYCY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.20.65 with SMTP id e1mr1376129ibb.1.1232985159765; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:52:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090126093242.863c59b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> <497D51E6.2000904@boosten.org> <825770ac0901252217m74882871o543027b0e32b9eb8@mail.gmail.com> <20090126093242.863c59b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:52:39 -0800 Message-ID: <825770ac0901260752s16655f49ue069d2166450d672@mail.gmail.com> From: sk89q To: Bill Moran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Boosten Subject: Re: X11 forwarding through SSH: Can't open display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:52:41 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to sk89q : > >> I meant sshd_config. > > Do you have the xauth package installed on the remote server? You don't > need a full X install, but X11 forwarding won't work without xauth > installed. Yes, I do (at least to my knowledge), but xauth is located at "/usr/local/bin/xauth". sshd wasn't able to find xauth, so I made a hard link at "/usr/X11/bin/xauth" to "/usr/local/bin/xauth". That fixed a can't-find-xauth error, and that's where I am now. >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Peter Boosten wrote: >> > sk89q wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and I have been trying to get X11 forwarding >> >> through SSH to work. I've gotten to the point where the environment >> >> variable "DISPLAY" is set, but I get a "Can't open display" error when >> >> I attempt to run an X application. The remote server in question does >> >> not have an X server install. >> >> >> >> In /etc/ssh/ssh_config, I have the following lines: >> >> X11Forwarding yes >> >> AllowTcpForwarding yes >> >> UseLogin no >> >> >> > >> > Have a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config of the remote server and restart >> > sshd after modification. >> > >> > Peter >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.boosten.org >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 15:53:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94B910656C2 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604708FC18 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0QFrR8r087229; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:53:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4D0B2BA8B; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:53:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:53:27 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20090126155327.GA19435@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:53:30 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 04:18:26PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Folks, >=20 > Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] > chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can > build? =20 =09 Ghostscript (when built with the pdfwrite driver) will copy pages from a PD= F: gs -DNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=3Dpdfwrite -dFirstPage=3D -dLastPage=3D \ -sOutputFile=3D -c quit >/dev/null 2>&1 Where and are page numbers, and and are the output and original filename respectively. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl93HcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVEfwCgjW/dL5NDS3fh2C1cLpsB4cVR p2cAnjQFpydTqZtnq5XdS32P9zxzoxeI =q1nD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 15:56:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4941A1065687 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202A48FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KE300G105M199E0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:25 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <497DDDB7.4000702@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:58:47 -0500 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:56:32 -0000 Hi everyone, Just to put you in context, I applied the following patch to make the card available: SVN rev 186389 on 2008-12-22 00:46:22Z by yongari Since we don't request reset for rlphy(4), the link state 'UP' event from mii(4) may not be delivered if valid link was already established. To address the issue, check current link state after driving MII_TICK. This should fix a regression introduced in r185753 on fast ethernet controllers. --- I don't have any issue related to that anymore. The problem is that I get link UP/DOWN a few times per hour on 3 identical machines that I dumped/restored. They are all pluged in a Cisco switch that works fine for every other PCs. Jan 26 06:09:15 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN Jan 26 06:09:17 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP I tried to switch cables, but I got the same result. There is the pciconf -lv output: re0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x02831028 chip=0x816810ec rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' class = network subclass = ethernet There is the output of vmstat -i: interrupt total rate irq18: re0 ehci0++ 63766 0 irq19: atapci0 277001 3 cpu0: timer 156068748 1961 Total 156409515 1966 Could it be related to the fact that there is re0 and ehci0++ on the same IRQ? Thank you for your help, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 16:48:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41F7106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA868FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 1441 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 16:48:45 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Jan 2009 16:48:45 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 58B605084B; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) To: "Terry \( 1stKMH \)" References: <497DC475.6040905@firstkmh.co.uk> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:48:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <497DC475.6040905@firstkmh.co.uk> (terry@firstkmh.co.uk's message of "Mon\, 26 Jan 2009 14\:11\:01 +0000") Message-ID: <44y6wyxbbn.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:48:46 -0000 "Terry ( 1stKMH )" writes: > Hi Glen the error seems randomized I did a fresh cvsup and moved > make.conf out of the way and did all the clean up steps as per the > handbook this morning and it still failed. > The only thing the error has in common each time is > > internal compiler error: in find_idf, If the errors are different each time, it's probably not a software problem. Test your RAM. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:18:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF6F106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D9C8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 28280 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 17:18:16 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jan 2009 17:18:16 -0000 Message-ID: <497DEEB0.7060704@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:11:12 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <320685273-1232899457-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1217896543-@bxe1008.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20090126024344.GB2193@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20090126024344.GB2193@kokopelli.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 04:04:15PM +0000, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: >> Lawrence Auster wrote: >>> Bla bla bla Ku Klux Klan crap. >> Why don't you bring your hatred outta here. This is a family-oriented channel. >> >> Next time, even when you put OOT label on subject, I still will call it crap. >> >> If you name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. > > Technically, "chink" is a slur for Chinese -- not Asian in general. > > Just tryin' ta help. > I was noticing that he's been crapping over the GentooLinux lists also (at the very least, along with a long list of FreeBSD lists, not just -Questions) and he's learned to obfuscate his source address. Not that he couldn't be blocked, and I (for one) really dislike offering him his pulpit of hate here. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl97rAACgkQz62J6PPcoOk6NgCfUmpfbMCO7ESzGAzl+yUJwAS2 Z/wAoJPjoAD6dXmuEJotYKpkRaP9VOPj =vI85 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:18:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4160C106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B558FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 19709 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 17:15:10 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jan 2009 17:15:10 -0000 Message-ID: <497DEDF6.7040102@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:08:06 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Karpovic References: <700ff07a0901251351t629b9606g260447b4cbaef00b@mail.gmail.com> <20090126001710.688b53eb@gluon> <497D1201.6060503@telenix.org> <700ff07a0901260633n2b09d056n64cf6b1def013f04@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <700ff07a0901260633n2b09d056n64cf6b1def013f04@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: hex editors, disk info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Alex Karpovic wrote: >> That in mind, what's wrong with bpatch? I've used it for binary patching, it >> works just fine that that (if my first assumption is totally off-base). You >> download from the device, change any required data, and (if the device allows >> writes) write it back to the device. Of course, not all devices allow writes. > > It's a bit uncomfortable. Just for example: I need to search some > signatures, which could be anywhere in 640Gb disk, and make some > changes around them. And I don't have spare 640+ Gb to copy whole disk > to. And even if I would have enough space, it is painfully slow to > move 640Gb twice just to make ten minutes editing. That's an unusual requirement, but folks ought to listen here, because optimizing such a problem, it's an interesting challenge. There is NO established tool which will do such an outre' task well, just because it's so unusual) I won't probe into your reasons, although a request so very odd usually means that there's some misunderstanding at the back of it. Anyhow, if I were given this task, I really think that the problem is in localizing the area you need to change, not in changing it. I'd use whatever language you feel comfortable with, then using that language (either directly, or by piping dd or nc to help out) so that you could do a global search for your target. Your search could trivially do extra things, like uniquely identifiying the target area, even dumping surrounding blocks into work file, so you could follow up with bpatch to actually change things. Don't expect such a thing to go quickly ... however, this is one of those tasks that can be made to operate significantly quicker, if you choose an efficient language and (easily as important) choose a good search/comparison algorithm. Actually, this sort of thing mgiht well have been given as homework to an undergrad, a very good learning opportunity indeed. Lot's of room for optimization of all kinds, and that task is big enough to really show obvious results. Done wrong, with tools bent into shape, this task is really too large to be reasonably contemplated. Unless you have a few extra months to use waiting for results, and you'd have to keep your mitts off the disk in the meanwhile. Just not a good idea to take that approach. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl97fYACgkQz62J6PPcoOmJzgCePrJCKxJc6y92RNJPa+Nr76GY dDoAniq7ay6Bb72eVUFVOeyxWo5IPehc =r9vi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:21:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603AB106568E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036AD8FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2372306ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:21:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=WBsrmKWobUsvZ3aSALIwtQnt1oeIMzREuWGwy/DTyPM=; b=UmKUi3nWobyvKrjfj0d4IKWtdk6xY1EO3N2YJgN8xbPbzKzqQCctHYZgdETAxIG7Ok PiyBfwnz2y0iMfYyE4yxL8W6SYEDhVK3pCIhecYztiClLUD4Em/HcTYdnYyLB0UzMsEu QH4i3DmjedD/H3XXWcBanhtEHnY/BnLhxVVj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=t3tP58puGTsSNndNVQrWS/WrjEjj9Q/wyQpA0gV5imEzjWtDgYJxdlkac3Fzv7ACvY CcHdFtLuomxAtrSrt4vQDiYGfDYdPK2q+GK9iOWbEIWqtQOoJDGdegymHV3jm6Cm6HTX aiVf/cS75A0OiPPgxRga7YNJ5mcY4ePFT3+SM= Received: by 10.90.88.17 with SMTP id l17mr408285agb.84.1232990471151; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:21:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm15111802agc.30.2009.01.26.09.21.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:21:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497DF104.3000406@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:21:08 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <320685273-1232899457-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1217896543-@bxe1008.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20090126024344.GB2193@kokopelli.hydra> <497DEEB0.7060704@telenix.org> In-Reply-To: <497DEEB0.7060704@telenix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:21:13 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chad Perrin wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 04:04:15PM +0000, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: >> >>> Lawrence Auster wrote: >>> >>>> Bla bla bla Ku Klux Klan crap. >>>> >>> Why don't you bring your hatred outta here. This is a family-oriented channel. >>> >>> Next time, even when you put OOT label on subject, I still will call it crap. >>> >>> If you name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. >>> >> Technically, "chink" is a slur for Chinese -- not Asian in general. >> >> Just tryin' ta help. >> >> > > I was noticing that he's been crapping over the GentooLinux lists also (at the > very least, along with a long list of FreeBSD lists, not just -Questions) and > he's learned to obfuscate his source address. Not that he couldn't be blocked, > and I (for one) really dislike offering him his pulpit of hate here. > Besides, we all know its the Amish who are really in control. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkl97rAACgkQz62J6PPcoOk6NgCfUmpfbMCO7ESzGAzl+yUJwAS2 > Z/wAoJPjoAD6dXmuEJotYKpkRaP9VOPj > =vI85 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:28:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690BA106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC9B8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 4239 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 17:28:20 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jan 2009 17:28:20 -0000 Message-ID: <497DF10C.9000601@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:21:16 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sk89q References: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> <497D51E6.2000904@boosten.org> <825770ac0901252217m74882871o543027b0e32b9eb8@mail.gmail.com> <20090126093242.863c59b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <825770ac0901260752s16655f49ue069d2166450d672@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <825770ac0901260752s16655f49ue069d2166450d672@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Boosten , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 forwarding through SSH: Can't open display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:28:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sk89q wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Bill Moran wrote: >> In response to sk89q : >> >>> I meant sshd_config. >> Do you have the xauth package installed on the remote server? You don't >> need a full X install, but X11 forwarding won't work without xauth >> installed. > > Yes, I do (at least to my knowledge), but xauth is located at > "/usr/local/bin/xauth". sshd wasn't able to find xauth, so I made a > hard link at "/usr/X11/bin/xauth" to "/usr/local/bin/xauth". That > fixed a can't-find-xauth error, and that's where I am now. I think a far more likely thing might be being missed here. Usually when I'm surprised when a new system refuses to allow me to remotely open X apps, it's not the problem of ssh, it's because X11, by default, doesn't open up the port 6000 IP socket to allow remotes to work. You can easily use netstat, to look for open sockets 6xxx range, opened by your X server. If you can't find it, then some part of your X installation is likely giving the -nolisten tcp commands when starting up the X server. I don't know how you open your X, so I couldn't directly tell you how to fix this. Being a bit more honest, the X server itself doesn't block the remote ports. It's all of the startup tools (like startx) which stick in the anti-remote prejudice. Giving the fact that it IS a security risk, I guess they're right, it just means that if you want remote operation, you need to tell X (via whatever startup method you use) to stop blocking the opening of that port 6000. > >>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Peter Boosten wrote: >>>> sk89q wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and I have been trying to get X11 forwarding >>>>> through SSH to work. I've gotten to the point where the environment >>>>> variable "DISPLAY" is set, but I get a "Can't open display" error when >>>>> I attempt to run an X application. The remote server in question does >>>>> not have an X server install. >>>>> >>>>> In /etc/ssh/ssh_config, I have the following lines: >>>>> X11Forwarding yes >>>>> AllowTcpForwarding yes >>>>> UseLogin no >>>>> >>>> Have a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config of the remote server and restart >>>> sshd after modification. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.boosten.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> Bill Moran >> http://www.potentialtech.com >> http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl98QwACgkQz62J6PPcoOmRaQCglJDR9D5/C1Wp5Q0cnd6Z3bi3 cvMAoI14mmJVzWWhRsJmT0lKsvakVkbu =BS/x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:38:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8436C1065676 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED338FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090126172314.JHHL26080.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@haran.polands.org>; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:23:14 +0000 Received: from moab.polands.org (moab.polands.org [172.16.1.8]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QHNDoA046212; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:23:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from moab.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moab.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QHNDcJ008687; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:23:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@moab.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by moab.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0QHNDLB008686; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:23:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:23:13 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net Message-ID: <20090126172312.GA8644@polands.org> References: <200901251805.12600.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <497d4f10.Q/a15CDNMxuhS95v%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <497DC7E1.4080201@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497DC7E1.4080201@polands.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:38:43 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:25:37AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>>> I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD >>>> (6.3, 7.0) on different architectures (i386, SPARC64). >>>> >>>> What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all machines, >>>> but preserving ports/packages for each version/architecture. >>>> I also want to make rebuilding indexes run as fast as possible. >>>> >>>> Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3 ... >> ... >>> The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should >>> fix those problems: >>> PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} >>> INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} >> It would seem the package building tools (make package, portinstall -p) do not honor the PACKAGES setting in /etc/make.conf. The package is simply deposited in /usr/ports/{category}/{pkgname}. Is there a way to force the package builder to use this knob? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:40:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D053410656F4 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@strongmail.going.com) Received: from promotions.going.com (promotions.going.com [67.192.23.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9138C8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@strongmail.going.com) Received: from strongmail.going.com ([10.241.70.249]) by promotions.going.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.1(4.1.1-44827)); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:14:12 -0500 X-VirtualServer: promotions, promotions.going.com, 67.192.23.84 X-VirtualServerGroup: promotions X-MailingID: 1217280870::1916::1329::1413::30449::30449 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Mailer: StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.1(4.1.1-44827) X-Destination-ID: questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: cXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3Jn DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=sm; d=going.com; q=dns; b=coHcLAhWj7BA7H3TFkEzl8EHPqXfl6sX2t8e7vYN/cVmorAzBFG6hAgh7mpfhyHSvCUBoWf0gts/HSwDw88JL0inb+b/rLHJNc4CQik919qecKVaMjpn6uBvVt1sV2bSSmgvJo6+ekBXSvHHF4pmBFBvCSPqMVQ5vcGbSnAXMJE= Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1217280870.30449@going.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:14:12 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Stash Magazine" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Hey, you never responded to my friend request on Going X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: donotreply@going.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:40:49 -0000 [track?mailingid=1916&messageid=1413&databaseid=1329&type=open&serial= 1217280870&emailid=questions@freebsd.org&userid=30449&extra=&&&] [1]Stash Magazine San Francisco, CA Hey! 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Firstly, I stumbled with the "AllowEmptyInput" thing, as described in /usr/ports/UPDATING (20090123 entry). Fine, that was easy enough. After that, I found that the "sis" driver was broken, or at least it resulted in my card no longer working. Granted, I have a very old 4MB (or maybe 8MB) card I snagged at a thrift shop to drive my 2nd monitor. So I gave up on the sis driver, and tried to run w/ the vesa driver. No luck, either. I can't seem to get that working now. Either dual-head got tweaked with the latest X updates, or my understanding of setting up X is extremely deficient. My guess is the latter. It's very frustrating that it just worked, then stopped. Having this blank CRT in my field of vision is really tweaking me out. :) So, before I get involved in a storm of posting copies of my xorg.conf and log files, has anyone else had issues with the new Xorg stuff? Also, is there a good howto for setting up Xorg with 2 heads and 2 different cards? In the mean time, I'll be recompiling the whole chain of programs with the default make options, just to make sure my custom CPUTYPE and optimizations didn't break stuff. Thanks. -- Geoff P.S. -- If it comes down to posting full config/log files, what's the preferred method, inline or as attachments? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:52:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC9010656ED for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45818FC1B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 7800 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 17:52:09 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jan 2009 17:52:09 -0000 Message-ID: <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:45:05 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:52:10 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> I don't want to raise an argument here (on multiple levels, no less...), >> but what would the compatibility be between FreeBSD (release) and >> Solaris? >> >> Why I ask is Adobe have released a version of flash for Solaris, and I'm >> wondering if this might work better than the linux_compat types. I tried > > it's nonsense to FreeBSD developers to do workaround just because adobe > don't want to make FreeBSD binary. > > If they don't want to make, then they DONT WANT US to use their product. > They DO HAVE RIGHT to do so, and please respect their rights! > > PS. Of course it's nonsense what they do, but again it's their right to > do stupid things I really, really dislike the notion that any company, in the selfishly sheer pursuit of profits, should be able to dictate to anyone what that person should be able to do, giving that it's within the limits of the law. Not allowing one to view many sites ISN'T within the moral control of any company, as long as you don't violate laws in doing it. Telling me that I should respect some idiot being able to tell me what I should or should not do with my own personal equipment (again, as long as you stay legal) is is the worst sort of moral cowardice. If you look at what Adobe is doing, they're making it obviously clear that they don't care about you using their tools, they only don't want you to use the operating system of your choice. And you want me to respect that, right? Sheesh! Why is it you use FreeBSD? Isn't it obviously clear that MicroSoft doesn't want you to? As long as you stay within the letter of the law, don't be so pusillanimous as to allow *any* company to dictate your free speech. As long as you stay within the law, then Free Speech is precisely what this all comes down to, and my rights to use whatever operating system I care to. Same as it's Adobe's right to refuse to support such a choice, which I agree with. But they can't tell me what I can do on my own. If I misunderstood you, above, then I apologize, but if I correctly read your meaning, then I'm sure my personal rights are important enough to me, to stay the course here. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl99qEACgkQz62J6PPcoOkO4wCfZjUdhbszESNHXKrdM8JvxbSS we0An2zAvnI/0cNM4cxTMrH8Zh/qxkUz =Unze -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:00:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E65106574A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FBF8FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF47AFC1FE; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:00:15 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:00:14 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090126125528.GA292@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090126150648.57c70940.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126150648.57c70940.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901260900.15053.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: overwriting NOT_FOR_ARCHS via /etc/make.conf has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:00:18 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 05:06:48 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:55:29 +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I'm trying to overwrite a Makefile variable via /etc/make.conf > > It doesn't seem to work: > > This behaviour is correct. The local makefiles have precedence > before the /etc/make.conf settings. They don't, even though it seems so. The Makefile is *read* after /etc/make.conf. The Makefile sets this variable unconditionally, therefore cannot be overridden by anything that is read before the Makefile. If the Makefile defined it like so: NOT_FOR_ARCHS?=alpha ia64 then /etc/make.conf would work, since the variable is defined at the time the Makefile is read. > > > What am I doing wrong? > > You could modify the port's Makefile itself, or create Makefile.local > in the port's dicrectory with your specific settings, but I don't > now if this mechanism is still supported. It is and since Makefile.local is read *after* the Makefile, you can override the variable there. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:11:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB6A106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFE58FC0C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7036AFC1FE; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:11:17 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:11:17 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3.0.1.32.20090124070639.00f092c0@sage-american.com> <3.0.1.32.20090126062743.00ea1680@sage-american.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20090126062743.00ea1680@sage-american.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901260911.17420.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Registry corrupt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:11:18 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 03:27:43 Jack L. Stone wrote: > At 04:27 PM 1.25.2009 -0900, you wrote: > >On Saturday 24 January 2009 04:06:39 Jack L. Stone wrote: > >> At 04:33 PM 1.23.2009 +0100, cpghost wrote: > >> >On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:56:45PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >> >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jack L. Stone > >> > >> BUT, it is executable and using the exact path to the program still > >> gives this error: > >> /usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup: not found > > > >file /usr/bin/perl will give you the answer. > > > >-- > >Mel > > Yes, know it's perl and here's how I really use fastest_cvsup: > # /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 -h `(fastest_cvsup -q -c us )` \ > # /root/kernels/7.0.src-supfile > > The above finds the fastest fbsd source and cvsup's from it. But, was > getting "fastest_cvsup not found" fastest_cvsup did not find perl. Your /usr/bin/perl is a *broken* symlink to a perl version that does not exist anymore, which file /usr/bin/perl would show you if you actually did run that command. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:12:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C513610656D5; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0398C8FC0C; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C019335C4B; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:12:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:14:21 +0100 From: cpghost To: Mel Message-ID: <20090126181421.GA1472@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> <497D4EA6.1020100@FreeBSD.org> <200901252241.05483.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901252241.05483.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:12:21 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:41:05PM -0900, Mel wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 20:48:22 Doug Barton wrote: > > Josh Carroll wrote: > > > What I do is the following via make.conf, > > > > I think this is a good solution. Given that incredible foot-shooting > > power of the -j stuff I am not inclined to add something like this to > > portmaster, not even as an "advanced" option. Yes, I understand the problem with that. The make.conf solution is good enough for now. ;) > Given the fact that the build target is presumably -j safe (as far as the > ports system is concerned), it would be nice to have a BUILD_JOBS in > Mk/bsd.port.mk similar to INDEX_JOBS that is already there. Port maintainers > then can also set WITHOUT_PARALLEL (or USE_PARALLEL=NO etc) for ports that > break by themselves (f.e. www/lynx, editors/vim). > portmaster should then have no problem setting BUILD_JOBS on request. That would be absolutely perfect! At least, big ports (www/firefox3 etc...) that take a long time to compile could use USE_PARALLEL=YES right now (or the solution with make.conf) if they are safe with -jN. The gazillion smallish ports could come later when maintainers have some time to follow up, but they are not really all that critical. Memory may fail me, but wasn't there a GSoC project to parallelize the ports infrastructure? Or was that about building many different ports simultaneously instead of one port on multiple cores? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:20:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B34106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38A78FC19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E392AFC1FE; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:20:01 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:20:00 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <85c8e1e10901241737t4077ce4fjfc611aa849de2702@mail.gmail.com> <200901251715.31207.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <85c8e1e10901261001x6837dd1bl93e9d2c2215892b8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <85c8e1e10901261001x6837dd1bl93e9d2c2215892b8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901260920.00847.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Jeffrey R. Hellem" Subject: Re: Wierd Port Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:20:02 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 09:01:37 Jeffrey R. Hellem wrote: > tried again today :P still no goran your command at the end.. hope it helps > > [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make > ===> PHPizing for php5-dba-5.2.8 > ===> php5-dba-5.2.8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/phpize - found > ===> php5-dba-5.2.8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.62 - found > Configuring for: > PHP Api Version: 20041225 > Zend Module Api No: 20060613 > Zend Extension Api No: 220060519 > ===> php5-dba-5.2.8 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - found > ===> php5-dba-5.2.8 depends on shared library: db41.1 - found > ===> Configuring for php5-dba-5.2.8 > [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make install I'm missing a build here. Can you instead of typing make install, type make build? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:21:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8753710656FB for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DBD8FC2E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE051AFC1FE; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:21:55 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:21:55 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497DC7E1.4080201@polands.org> <20090126172312.GA8644@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20090126172312.GA8644@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901260921.55827.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Doug Poland Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:21:58 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 08:23:13 Doug Poland wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:25:37AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >>>> I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD > >>>> (6.3, 7.0) on different architectures (i386, SPARC64). > >>>> > >>>> What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all machines, > >>>> but preserving ports/packages for each version/architecture. > >>>> I also want to make rebuilding indexes run as fast as possible. > >>>> > >>>> Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3 ... > >> > >> ... > >> > >>> The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should > >>> fix those problems: > >>> PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} > >>> INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} > > It would seem the package building tools (make package, portinstall -p) > do not honor the PACKAGES setting in /etc/make.conf. The package is > simply deposited in /usr/ports/{category}/{pkgname}. Is there a way to > force the package builder to use this knob? make package respects it. portinstall -p might override it itself in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. Hurray for sane defaults. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:56:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0EC106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EE58FC2A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KE300071DXFIU00@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:56:03 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <497E07D1.3030604@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:58:25 -0500 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <497DDDB7.4000702@optiksecurite.com> In-reply-to: <497DDDB7.4000702@optiksecurite.com> Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:56:04 -0000 FreeBSD a écrit : > Hi everyone, > > Just to put you in context, I applied the following patch to make the > card available: > > SVN rev 186389 on 2008-12-22 00:46:22Z by yongari > > Since we don't request reset for rlphy(4), the link state 'UP' > event from mii(4) may not be delivered if valid link was already > established. To address the issue, check current link state after > driving MII_TICK. This should fix a regression introduced in > r185753 on fast ethernet controllers. > > --- > > I don't have any issue related to that anymore. The problem is that I > get link UP/DOWN a few times per hour on 3 identical machines that I > dumped/restored. They are all pluged in a Cisco switch that works fine > for every other PCs. > > Jan 26 06:09:15 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN > Jan 26 06:09:17 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP > > I tried to switch cables, but I got the same result. > > There is the pciconf -lv output: > > re0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x02831028 chip=0x816810ec rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > There is the output of vmstat -i: > > interrupt total rate > irq18: re0 ehci0++ 63766 0 > irq19: atapci0 277001 3 > cpu0: timer 156068748 1961 > Total 156409515 1966 > > Could it be related to the fact that there is re0 and ehci0++ on the > same IRQ? > > Thank you for your help, > > Martin I just tried with a brand new Dell 2708 switch and the problem is still there. I just confirmed that the UP/DOWN occurs every 10 minutes (+- a few seconds). Thanks again, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 20:15:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED76106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34DD8FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so6134560rvf.43 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:15:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xT8J59EbeIa0f0k5RAftJ52YPAEzVuEHnLZhWCimJmU=; b=VFHplnvF6V5IN/W4gZUH9wNGmn770sfEwMbP/JR/WBETuMuXSHrtZxuGFpNwxueptL /gPwoLAFPQZRB9PHTk+I35WMRxJu7nV/9Kd+Md5csAbseHBrtkwRXmkPuIS9v9bVwFxI EgHOwRsot06znDvvSmZaZzSp87H6EDj2pxz08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v9E5k5H6M+v6QVOp9LwBzvRPJSpYMU2yCYLN9swD5kdqSLpZPLcYSlOymLXY0WtiBl 1+X70kEexda1DI/BARM0ldc5hsMbr9nQS06fnlbVMA7WzSAXibuoJ4IA1VgGHqbFFGmq 3dajj5bIoOme/jQp9ZHVVd82GVRTJXb0/qZw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.151.18 with SMTP id d18mr2908264rvo.134.1233000928791; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:15:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:15:28 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6746f2feab6aafb3 Message-ID: <9a52b1190901261215wc2a495evf085fd856f54b1d3@mail.gmail.com> From: Saifi Khan To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ELF format alternative ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:15:32 -0000 Hi all: Curious to know if there are "under research" or known format other than ELF format ? Pls note i'm aware of a.out and COFF, ELF format was developed by wonderful USL. -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 20:22:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E556C106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA8B8FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LRXyy-0003ln-MH; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:22:56 +0000 Received: from [92.238.154.32] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LRXyy-0001O9-6P; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:22:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:24:02 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F78973929561F@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: <497E07D1.3030604@optiksecurite.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1 Thread-Index: Acl/6BGGh6SzvMqTTSixnIhvZ5QePgAC8mUw References: <497DDDB7.4000702@optiksecurite.com> <497E07D1.3030604@optiksecurite.com> From: "Graeme Dargie" To: "FreeBSD" , Cc: Subject: RE: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:22:58 -0000 If you do a dmesg are you also showing a watchdog time out for the nic ? I only ask as I am having the exact same problem with the exact same = card and I have yet to find a solution, if I come across something I = will let you know. Regards Graeme -----Original Message----- From: FreeBSD [mailto:freebsd@optiksecurite.com]=20 Sent: 26 January 2009 18:58 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1 FreeBSD a =E9crit : > Hi everyone, >=20 > Just to put you in context, I applied the following patch to make the=20 > card available: >=20 > SVN rev 186389 on 2008-12-22 00:46:22Z by yongari >=20 > Since we don't request reset for rlphy(4), the link state 'UP' > event from mii(4) may not be delivered if valid link was already > established. To address the issue, check current link state after > driving MII_TICK. This should fix a regression introduced in > r185753 on fast ethernet controllers. >=20 > --- >=20 > I don't have any issue related to that anymore. The problem is that I=20 > get link UP/DOWN a few times per hour on 3 identical machines that I=20 > dumped/restored. They are all pluged in a Cisco switch that works fine = > for every other PCs. >=20 > Jan 26 06:09:15 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN > Jan 26 06:09:17 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP >=20 > I tried to switch cables, but I got the same result. >=20 > There is the pciconf -lv output: >=20 > re0@pci0:3:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x02831028 chip=3D0x816810ec = rev=3D0x02=20 > hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device =3D 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > class =3D network > subclass =3D ethernet >=20 > There is the output of vmstat -i: >=20 > interrupt total rate > irq18: re0 ehci0++ 63766 0 > irq19: atapci0 277001 3 > cpu0: timer 156068748 1961 > Total 156409515 1966 >=20 > Could it be related to the fact that there is re0 and ehci0++ on the=20 > same IRQ? >=20 > Thank you for your help, >=20 > Martin I just tried with a brand new Dell 2708 switch and the problem is still=20 there. I just confirmed that the UP/DOWN occurs every 10 minutes (+- a=20 few seconds). Thanks again, Martin _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:00:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5F91065807 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557848FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KE3002ZXJO8Y0D1@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:00:08 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <497E24E5.5090701@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:02:29 -0500 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) To: Graeme Dargie References: <497DDDB7.4000702@optiksecurite.com> <497E07D1.3030604@optiksecurite.com> <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F78973929561F@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-reply-to: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F78973929561F@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:00:11 -0000 Graeme Dargie a écrit : > If you do a dmesg are you also showing a watchdog time out for the nic ? > > I only ask as I am having the exact same problem with the exact same card and I have yet to find a solution, if I come across something I will let you know. > > Regards > Graeme Not a single time...sorry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: FreeBSD [mailto:freebsd@optiksecurite.com] > Sent: 26 January 2009 18:58 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1 > > FreeBSD a écrit : >> Hi everyone, >> >> Just to put you in context, I applied the following patch to make the >> card available: >> >> SVN rev 186389 on 2008-12-22 00:46:22Z by yongari >> >> Since we don't request reset for rlphy(4), the link state 'UP' >> event from mii(4) may not be delivered if valid link was already >> established. To address the issue, check current link state after >> driving MII_TICK. This should fix a regression introduced in >> r185753 on fast ethernet controllers. >> >> --- >> >> I don't have any issue related to that anymore. The problem is that I >> get link UP/DOWN a few times per hour on 3 identical machines that I >> dumped/restored. They are all pluged in a Cisco switch that works fine >> for every other PCs. >> >> Jan 26 06:09:15 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN >> Jan 26 06:09:17 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP >> >> I tried to switch cables, but I got the same result. >> >> There is the pciconf -lv output: >> >> re0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x02831028 chip=0x816810ec rev=0x02 >> hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' >> device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' >> class = network >> subclass = ethernet >> >> There is the output of vmstat -i: >> >> interrupt total rate >> irq18: re0 ehci0++ 63766 0 >> irq19: atapci0 277001 3 >> cpu0: timer 156068748 1961 >> Total 156409515 1966 >> >> Could it be related to the fact that there is re0 and ehci0++ on the >> same IRQ? >> >> Thank you for your help, >> >> Martin > > I just tried with a brand new Dell 2708 switch and the problem is still > there. I just confirmed that the UP/DOWN occurs every 10 minutes (+- a > few seconds). > > Thanks again, > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:10:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C19D10656CD for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4C18FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRYiW-0000EB-9g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:10:00 -0800 Message-ID: <21673928.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:10:00 -0800 (PST) From: regis505 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090124034209.GA31215@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: regis505@gmail.com References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <20090123074516.GC96433@thought.org> <20090123091407.0485db35.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090124034209.GA31215@thought.org> Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:10:01 -0000 > But this does not (!) make the media mountable! You may see that > as a disadvantage, but maybe it's not: You can access it now > directly without needing to mount it, and you can extract from > it by selection, e. g. > > % tar xvjf /dev/cd0 ~/music > > to only extract the music/ subtree. > > The tar "file system" is best for interoperability because (if > I may say this) every UNIX-like OS can read tar, no matter if you > put it n discs, disks, tapes or even hard disks or USB sticks. I was curious to tar directly to a blank dvd+rw. I tried: tar -cvf /dev/cd1 root0-090107.gz root1-090116.gz a root0-090107.gz a root1-090116.gz I got the prompt back but the dvd device stays busy (on the unit, the light flashes non stop). Any ideas? Regis -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-create-a-DVD-backup-filesystem--tp21617046p21673928.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:12:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AA6106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B010A8FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QLBu03001527; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:11:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0QLBt0o001524; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:11:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:11:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: regis505 In-Reply-To: <21673928.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20090126221139.O1523@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <20090123074516.GC96433@thought.org> <20090123091407.0485db35.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090124034209.GA31215@thought.org> <21673928.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:12:05 -0000 > > > I was curious to tar directly to a blank dvd+rw. I tried: > > tar -cvf /dev/cd1 root0-090107.gz root1-090116.gz > a root0-090107.gz > a root1-090116.gz > > I got the prompt back but the dvd device stays busy (on the unit, the light > flashes non stop). Any ideas? > perform ANY read from the drive and that's all :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:13:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9381065687 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062668FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QLDdFc001538; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:13:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0QLDbc9001535; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:13:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:13:37 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chuck Robey In-Reply-To: <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> Message-ID: <20090126221219.F1523@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:13:51 -0000 > pursuit of profits, should be able to dictate to anyone what that person should They DO NOT DICTATE ANYTHING. It's quite free market here, you can use they product or not. I don't use, mostly because it doesn't run on an OS that i use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:36:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3512E106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1947C8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8MAV1b0140cQ2SLA7McrxR; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:36:51 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8Mcq1b0021f6R9u8WMcq4N; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:36:50 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:36:48 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:36:48 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090126213648.GL66858@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.x/FreeBSD 7.0 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:36:51 -0000 On Mon 26 Jan 2009 at 00:16:23 PST Polytropon wrote: >On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:06:18 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >> Thanks, Gents, >> >> But according to one smallish pdf file that I send to a web based >> tool, it was not a real pdf. Or, more accurately, it (the pdf to >> speech program) couldn't decode it. > >This is a typical problem with "poorly engineered" PDFs where the >author puts in the text as images (you'll see this stupidity across >the Web, too). In most cases where I've seen this, it's because they had scanned an actual printed document. Many old, out-of-print books are being made newly available this way, so I'm not inclined to complain. Unfortunately, OCR software still isn't reliable enough (or, if reliable, cheap enough) to convert these scanned images to actual text. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:52:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13350106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene2.itea.ntnu.no (bene2.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B59E8FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene2.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B958F90005 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene2.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 6289590004 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 4123 invoked by uid 88); 26 Jan 2009 22:49:20 +0100 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:49:20 +0100 Message-ID: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:58:06 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene2.itea.ntnu.no Cc: Subject: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:52:04 -0000 As far as I can see, printf is not calculating strings lengths correctly when using utf-8 encoding. Either that, or I'm using byte count, and can't find the character count :-/ Eg: $ printf "|%-10s|" "æøå" |æøå | $ printf "|%-10s|" "123" |123 | I'm on 7.1-p2 sv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:00:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2073C106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0248FC1A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.195] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5BE5C2F064 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:01:52 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:00:32 +1000 Message-Id: <1233007232.41990.18.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:00:36 -0000 On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 12:45 -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> I don't want to raise an argument here (on multiple levels, no less...), > >> but what would the compatibility be between FreeBSD (release) and > >> Solaris? > >> > >> Why I ask is Adobe have released a version of flash for Solaris, and I'm > >> wondering if this might work better than the linux_compat types. I tried > > > > it's nonsense to FreeBSD developers to do workaround just because adobe > > don't want to make FreeBSD binary. > > > > If they don't want to make, then they DONT WANT US to use their product. > > They DO HAVE RIGHT to do so, and please respect their rights! > > > > PS. Of course it's nonsense what they do, but again it's their right to > > do stupid things > > I really, really dislike the notion that any company, in the selfishly sheer > pursuit of profits, should be able to dictate to anyone what that person should > be able to do, giving that it's within the limits of the law. Not allowing one > to view many sites ISN'T within the moral control of any company, as long as you > don't violate laws in doing it. Telling me that I should respect some idiot > being able to tell me what I should or should not do with my own personal > equipment (again, as long as you stay legal) is is the worst sort of moral > cowardice. > > If you look at what Adobe is doing, they're making it obviously clear that they > don't care about you using their tools, they only don't want you to use the > operating system of your choice. And you want me to respect that, right? > Sheesh! Why is it you use FreeBSD? Isn't it obviously clear that MicroSoft > doesn't want you to? > > As long as you stay within the letter of the law, don't be so pusillanimous as > to allow *any* company to dictate your free speech. As long as you stay within > the law, then Free Speech is precisely what this all comes down to, and my > rights to use whatever operating system I care to. Same as it's Adobe's right > to refuse to support such a choice, which I agree with. But they can't tell me > what I can do on my own. > > If I misunderstood you, above, then I apologize, but if I correctly read your > meaning, then I'm sure my personal rights are important enough to me, to stay > the course here. As I said before, I didn't want to start an argument, and Adobe now don't care what system you use: just that they will only support those systems designated. If you can get linux flashplayer working on FreeBSD then thats cool- just don't go whinging to them about how to do it or fix it if it doesn't work. My interest here is that they HAVE supported Solaris (Sun's influence has finally swayed them) which, unless I'm very much mistaken, is a closer relative of FreeBSD than linux. Any further thoughts on this front? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:06:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BB5106564A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2178FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0QM79Xq081968; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:07:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:06:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:06:23 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090126220623.GA76673@thought.org> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:06:44 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 09:16:23AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:06:18 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Thanks, Gents, > > > > But according to one smallish pdf file that I send to a web based > > tool, it was not a real pdf. Or, more accurately, it (the pdf to > > speech program) couldn't decode it. > > This is a typical problem with "poorly engineered" PDFs where the > author puts in the text as images (you'll see this stupidity across > the Web, too). So what kind of moron is going to photograph pages --or maybe just get-screenshot-of-this-page" and upload it? Or a Real question: I read an online pdf of "The Art of War" from the 1880's [?], and it was in an old-English or olden-Deutsch type font. In PDF. i have other p.d. texts in pdf and am wondering in there is some sort of scanner than can take a book-length script and create a pdf file. Anybody know? > > A good tool to check if the PDF file can be (audibly) read is the > use of the tool pdftotext from the port xpdf. > > % pdftotext bla.pdf && less bla.txt > > Then, even the FF speech plugin should work correctly - as long as > the PDF file contains decodable text. If it's just a bunch of images, > well, what are we expecting, hm? FF-speech: "You see a pretty image of > some text..." :-) > Yeah, that's about right! I got a bunch of ^L bytes and nothing else. Now I'm looking at the file with od -c and, yup, it's and image. The parts inbetween pages are in ASCII. Do you know what "MediaBox" is? At least the web article was not an image! Google had it both in PDF and HTML. gary > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:25:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692D5106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2345D8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194384EC76BB; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id F295128084; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:25:14 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-a4889bb000000fcd-ce-497e384a755f Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id D57BD2807E; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:25:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <0B02CEE8-D38A-4D94-B76D-49721BDDACF0@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen In-Reply-To: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:25:14 -0800 References: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:25:15 -0000 On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > As far as I can see, printf is not calculating strings lengths > correctly when using utf-8 encoding. Either that, or I'm using byte > count, and can't find the character count :-/ printf(1) explicitly states that it works with ASCII and ANSI X3.159-1989 (``ANSI C89'') character escapes, and it also notes: Multibyte characters are not recognized in format strings (this is only a problem if `%' can appear inside a multibyte character). Some platforms have a printf_l(3) which is locale/xlocale-aware, but there doesn't seem to be a corresponding CLI utility which understands Unicode/UTF8/widechars. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:38:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BDB1065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1650E8FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F37C2E4F7; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:38:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:06 +0100 From: cpghost To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20090126223906.GA2444@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090126220623.GA76673@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126220623.GA76673@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:38:28 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 02:06:23PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 09:16:23AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:06:18 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Thanks, Gents, > > > > > > But according to one smallish pdf file that I send to a web based > > > tool, it was not a real pdf. Or, more accurately, it (the pdf to > > > speech program) couldn't decode it. > > > > This is a typical problem with "poorly engineered" PDFs where the > > author puts in the text as images (you'll see this stupidity across > > the Web, too). > > > So what kind of moron is going to photograph pages --or maybe just > get-screenshot-of-this-page" and upload it? It happens quite frequently nowadays. Those PDFs are usually scanned, and the scanner software (usually on Windows) assembles all screenshots into a PDF of images. That's what you find on the Net. This is not such a bad idea, esp. when it comes to technical textbooks, which usually contain a lot of diagrams, formulae, tables etc...; since an OCR software that would be able to reverse all this into LaTeX and EPS figures has yet to be programmed (that's a difficult task). > Or a Real question: > I read an online pdf of "The Art of War" from the 1880's [?], and > it was in an old-English or olden-Deutsch type font. In PDF. i > have other p.d. texts in pdf and am wondering in there is some > sort of scanner than can take a book-length script and create a > pdf file. Anybody know? It all depends how the PDF is created. Some PDFs encode the fonts in a special section, and then use text (sometimes compressed or encrypted), which refers to those fonts. In such a case, you could extract the pure text from the PDF. Other PDFs simply encode the book as a set of bitmaps (see above); and then your only chance is to find an OCR software that would not only be able to recognize the characters in the bitmaps, but also to cope with those Fraktur- or other exotic fonts. Some OCR programs are interactive and trainable, so that you can say: this is an 'S', and that is a 'T'..., but AFAIK, there's no free and open source OCR program with this capability (yet). > > A good tool to check if the PDF file can be (audibly) read is the > > use of the tool pdftotext from the port xpdf. > > > > % pdftotext bla.pdf && less bla.txt > > > > Then, even the FF speech plugin should work correctly - as long as > > the PDF file contains decodable text. If it's just a bunch of images, > > well, what are we expecting, hm? FF-speech: "You see a pretty image of > > some text..." :-) > > Yeah, that's about right! I got a bunch of ^L bytes and nothing > else. Now I'm looking at the file with od -c and, yup, it's and > image. The parts inbetween pages are in ASCII. Do you know what > "MediaBox" is? So it's a set of images. There's not much you could do about it. Oh, you can still try to extract the images from the PDF by using the program 'pdfimages' (part of the graphics/xpdf port); and look at them individually with an image processor (Gimp etc...). Then run an OCR program on those images. Try graphics/gocr for example. But it would still be tedious, to say the least. > At least the web article was not an image! Google had it both in > PDF and HTML. > > gary -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:39:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ACE106567C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451168FC27 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QMdJuQ001722 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0QMdJGe001719 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:19 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:39:28 -0000 is it any decruncher for unix for this format (it's compressed audio CD, from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:51:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2931065672 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80E38FC18 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0QMpxpv082217 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:51:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:51:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:51:14 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090126225113.GA78416@thought.org> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090126213648.GL66858@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126213648.GL66858@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:19 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 01:36:48PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Mon 26 Jan 2009 at 00:16:23 PST Polytropon wrote: > >On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:06:18 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > >> Thanks, Gents, > >> > >> But according to one smallish pdf file that I send to a web based > >> tool, it was not a real pdf. Or, more accurately, it (the pdf to > >> speech program) couldn't decode it. > > > >This is a typical problem with "poorly engineered" PDFs where the > >author puts in the text as images (you'll see this stupidity across > >the Web, too). > > In most cases where I've seen this, it's because they had scanned an > actual printed document. Many old, out-of-print books are being made > newly available this way, so I'm not inclined to complain. > > Unfortunately, OCR software still isn't reliable enough (or, if > reliable, cheap enough) to convert these scanned images to actual text. You're probably right about the cost/performance idea. Still, before I get back to the Last few pages of my thesis, maybe I'll try feeding parts of my most vanilla image-PDF file to an opensource OCR program. I'm pretty sure there are a couple in ports. IIRC, though, the images have to be jpegs of tiffs or the like. If anybody knows, please give me a shout out! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:51:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975A11065670 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312F98FC1B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 8911 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2009 22:51:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2009 22:51:23 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 9A1AF28429; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:51:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:51:22 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090126225122.GA38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:25 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:39:19PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > is it any decruncher for unix for this format (it's compressed audio > CD, from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) What does file(1) think it is? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:52:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3DA106579B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D55E8FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QMqmaD001798; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:52:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0QMqmom001795; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:52:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:52:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20090126225122.GA38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20090126235236.F1785@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126225122.GA38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:52:57 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:39:19PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> is it any decruncher for unix for this format (it's compressed audio >> CD, from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) > > What does file(1) think it is? > don't think anything, says "data" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:56:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B211065741 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB738FC17 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 18706 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2009 22:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2009 22:56:04 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 9CE7E28429; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:56:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:56:01 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090126225601.GB38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126225122.GA38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20090126235236.F1785@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126235236.F1785@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:56:07 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:52:48PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, David Kelly wrote: > > >On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:39:19PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>is it any decruncher for unix for this format (it's compressed audio > >>CD, from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) > > > >What does file(1) think it is? > > > don't think anything, says "data" Monkey's Audio: http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:57:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E5A106570E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64FF8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C80AFC1FE; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:57:53 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:57:40 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901261357.40676.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:57:55 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 13:39:19 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > is it any decruncher for unix for this format (it's compressed audio CD, > from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) # cd /usr/ports/audio # grep -l APE */pkg-descr gnormalize/pkg-descr optimfrog/pkg-descr p5-Audio-Musepack/pkg-descr py-apetag/pkg-descr py-musepack/pkg-descr py-mutagen/pkg-descr py-tagpy/pkg-descr soundconverter/pkg-descr -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:58:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE7C10657E1 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21D08FC20 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so9602937qyk.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:58:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fg2o8Z8hFaT1IuDbO4fuW+aV6pH6IAq2jv8JYi8dzvk=; b=Da9HiXb/7rU2cDbxtI8NBZZj5ay/VHWCbj16PzJV28haBWZ7QJIMPhQco/6xZwJNax V/zfj68HNPxuZgMQqq4zIWWwGDDA+/HebWJZY2DDLZpygxqMaMD3ISYYWInaPnHYKv4+ 9RyCm56pzBzRk1jfLIWM/g/4y9tgk1gP0ZMw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=M2gmOEzkZ2DoLHRkL6NkHlhNp4PZup49trrjLyCZV5Xs+CqTX7tsvMMVZu6A6Eg6yZ MaHyQXO5uelwQQKceQsw8EwdWHkt718q+AxokDSc5CVs/EOs916TMssDI7rEHTH3uK7L SDDVIy+KZub/OV+3gH3dIBU1srsvYsVD3O4ic= Received: by 10.214.181.17 with SMTP id d17mr12473049qaf.355.1233008890795; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.202? (itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm830284qwi.20.2009.01.26.14.28.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:28:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497E38F7.9010405@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:28:07 -0500 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: danging dbufs in ZFS v6 , FreeBSD 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:58:31 -0000 A problem I'm hoping you can solve ! Running on a 64bit platform with 5, 500GB HDDs in a basic raidz configuration classically named 'tank', I began copying a file. During the copy, I lost a disk. Since these are all hot swappable SATA drives, I pulled the one I *thought* had died and swapped in a good drive, which powered up and I attempted a 'replace'. The copy was still proceeding... (you see where this is going...) This wasn't the broken drive I pulled, which I quickly found after the replace attempt ! In an effort to put the good drive back into the array, I reconnected and rebooted the machine citing possible 'drive disappearance' problems with the stunt I just pulled. Nothing doing. The kernel hung at : "panic : dangling dbufs. dn = 0xffffff000a49f338 dbuf = 0xffffff000a4a01e0 " Leading me to believe the array is dead. :-/ I am happy to lose the data that was copied at the time of failure if it's possible to recover the rest of the array. I suppose that the rest of the data remains intact. Is there a way to rid myself of the dangling buffers to get back to a usable state ? (some dd magic ?) Could I recover by using a newer version of ZFS for FreeBSD ? (v13 instead of v v6) Quickly it moved from : NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank DEGRADED 0 0 0 raidz1 DEGRADED 0 0 0 da0 ONLINE 0 0 0 da1 UNAVAIL 0 887 0 cannot open da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad5 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad6 ONLINE 0 0 0 to : NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas raidz1 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas da0 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open da1 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad5 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad6 ONLINE 0 0 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:59:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6661065725 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene2.itea.ntnu.no (bene2.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD0D8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene2.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEE990006 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:59:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene2.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id AB5E690004 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:59:22 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 29420 invoked by uid 88); 26 Jan 2009 23:56:41 +0100 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:56:41 +0100 Message-ID: <497E41B8.2030203@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:05:28 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <0B02CEE8-D38A-4D94-B76D-49721BDDACF0@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <0B02CEE8-D38A-4D94-B76D-49721BDDACF0@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene2.itea.ntnu.no Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:59:25 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >> As far as I can see, printf is not calculating strings lengths >> correctly when using utf-8 encoding. Either that, or I'm using byte >> count, and can't find the character count :-/ > > printf(1) explicitly states that it works with ASCII and ANSI > X3.159-1989 (``ANSI C89'') character escapes, and it also notes: > > Multibyte characters are not recognized in format strings (this is > only a > problem if `%' can appear inside a multibyte character). > > Some platforms have a printf_l(3) which is locale/xlocale-aware, but > there doesn't seem to be a corresponding CLI utility which understands > Unicode/UTF8/widechars. Thanks for your explanation. Do you have a suggestion to solve the following problem without using printf(1): I have a text file that I want to print in a "box" on a terminal from a shell script. Now I've padded the lines with spaces to a certain length using printf %-70s and appended the box drawing character. Is there another simple way that will work with utf-8? sv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:03:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED7210656D7 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42DB8FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55164EC9D76; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 9E19028098; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:03:44 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-a508abb000000fcd-11-497e41502d53 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 817962807E; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:03:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <6A32981B-AD8F-4CAA-B1BD-38A06654C69A@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen In-Reply-To: <497E41B8.2030203@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:03:44 -0800 References: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <0B02CEE8-D38A-4D94-B76D-49721BDDACF0@mac.com> <497E41B8.2030203@lvor.halvorsen.cc> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:03:45 -0000 On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Do you have a suggestion to solve the following problem without > using printf(1): > > I have a text file that I want to print in a "box" on a terminal > from a shell script. Now I've padded the lines with spaces to a > certain length using printf %-70s and appended the box drawing > character. Is there another simple way that will work with utf-8? My first thought was about dialog(1), but I'm not sure whether that deals with UTF8 any better...? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:05:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459C2106568D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61548FC16 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id d26so808343eyd.7 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:05:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UDwFtJEDil+zs2TYSarAVW8kWVbQCWb8nMRSQw9qPpE=; b=qyxcNnXRFQI+LecIyGHQ/XI3PmWACuppRNFRbhksfCir7TPg3gBKNkMAUOo6+glSKf qljtJ31V15q+lg9rAnK8AcpG+xL814NOFBq6sWB7Q0C6IubzKLFmPJxv2+iajuHMPHSh 9CF4otHKDEdXEJcLuw5FZXt3un2PoitZSFQGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NkLscWjFX6MJLUDVwUjMRUvf0AJlXb+ckFKklUoiLDCoxlSbcqAtRBRa/U57iRDxfR /8na3PXzHjXWOIziCJdz5b9hg1EeuUWu5bf0qrnASbQTgW0EQ2oFDAtw7LdUBSz8XFCA UYz4axbfH7uxHYUrYx5RvAJjggsolA1JBGxmk= Received: by 10.210.86.10 with SMTP id j10mr7327062ebb.153.1233011141862; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4559058.home.otenet.gr [94.70.92.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm3391256eye.50.2009.01.26.15.05.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:05:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497E41C2.9020500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:05:38 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200901261357.40676.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901261357.40676.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:05:43 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Monday 26 January 2009 13:39:19 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> is it any decruncher for unix for this format (it's compressed audio CD, >> from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) >> > > # cd /usr/ports/audio > # grep -l APE */pkg-descr > gnormalize/pkg-descr > optimfrog/pkg-descr > p5-Audio-Musepack/pkg-descr > py-apetag/pkg-descr > py-musepack/pkg-descr > py-mutagen/pkg-descr > py-tagpy/pkg-descr > soundconverter/pkg-descr > > > And audio/aqualung as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:12:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905EF10656F7 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene1.itea.ntnu.no (bene1.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C178FC25 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E10B24040 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:12:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id D7F6D24022 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:12:39 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 34547 invoked by uid 88); 27 Jan 2009 00:09:59 +0100 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:09:58 +0100 Message-ID: <497E44D5.4070905@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:18:45 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <0B02CEE8-D38A-4D94-B76D-49721BDDACF0@mac.com> <497E41B8.2030203@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <6A32981B-AD8F-4CAA-B1BD-38A06654C69A@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <6A32981B-AD8F-4CAA-B1BD-38A06654C69A@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene1.itea.ntnu.no Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:12:43 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >> Do you have a suggestion to solve the following problem without using >> printf(1): >> >> I have a text file that I want to print in a "box" on a terminal from >> a shell script. Now I've padded the lines with spaces to a certain >> length using printf %-70s and appended the box drawing character. Is >> there another simple way that will work with utf-8? > > My first thought was about dialog(1), but I'm not sure whether that > deals with UTF8 any better...? No, it doesn't seem to. Also it clears the entire screen to draw the box. I only want a small box, and not clear the screen, and I don't want a OK-button or any other user interaction. Just print the simple box, then whatever follows from the script should print after it. Nevertheless, thanks for your help and your time! sv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:19:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772BE106566B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seanj@xyke.com) Received: from xyke.com (xyke.com [173.45.229.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5467F8FC08 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seanj@xyke.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1) ident=seanj) by xyke.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (envelope-from ) id 1LRaCS-0005IL-66 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:45:00 +0000 Message-Id: <9F98B0FE-EEEA-4104-91C0-AEC87C4621B2@xyke.com> From: Sean Jensen-grey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:44:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 208.77.153.8 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: seanj@xyke.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on xyke.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.7-deb X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:51:29 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on xyke.com) Subject: which video card for dual monitor portrait? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:19:32 -0000 I like to use dual monitors in portrait mode. I am running Freebsd 7.1 STABLE which uses release 7.3 of Xorg afaik. What video card runs * Multimonitor * Rotated using the built-in xorg bundled with Freebsd 7.1? I attempted to use an ATI X1650 PRO which has an RV535 core, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R520#X1650_series xrandr -o left resulted in screen0 being rotated 90 degrees to the left but ending up on screen1 and very slow. I assume that the "good stuff" in xorg for these cards is in 7.4 and 7.5 releases. What cards allow one to run dual monitor (single card dual dvi) in portrait mode? I am interested in setups that are currently running. Exact make and model of your card along with an xorg.conf would be awesome. Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:29:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7F710656C0 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A83D8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QNTaUV001980; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:29:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0QNTaqn001977; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:29:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:29:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <497E41C2.9020500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090127002930.R1976@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200901261357.40676.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <497E41C2.9020500@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:29:43 -0000 >>> from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) >>> >> >> # cd /usr/ports/audio >> # grep -l APE */pkg-descr >> gnormalize/pkg-descr >> optimfrog/pkg-descr >> p5-Audio-Musepack/pkg-descr >> py-apetag/pkg-descr >> py-musepack/pkg-descr >> py-mutagen/pkg-descr >> py-tagpy/pkg-descr >> soundconverter/pkg-descr >> THANKS >> >> > And audio/aqualung as well. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BD31065687 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mail.khubla.com (gateway.khubla.com [66.18.197.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0098A8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from [192.168.128.143] ([192.168.128.143]) (authenticated user tom@khubla.com) by mail.khubla.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:04:02 -0700 Message-ID: <497E3FEE.3020601@khubla.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:57:50 -0700 From: Tom Everett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 SMP on IBM x330 Dual Processor server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:16 -0000 I'm running the "stock" FreeBSD 7.1 kernel on an IBM x330 machine. The machine has two physical processors but it seems that FreeBSD 7.1 on sees one. I downloaded the kernel source and it seems that the GENERIC kernel has SMP installed. Is there something else I can try? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. $ sysctl -a | grep cpu kern.threads.virtual_cpu: 1 kern.ccpu: 0 kern.smp.cpus: 1 kern.smp.maxcpus: 16 debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0 debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0 debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1 debug.stop_cpus_with_nmi: 1 debug.PMAP1changedcpu: 0 hw.ncpu: 1 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 machdep.cpu_idle_hlt: 1 machdep.hlt_cpus: 0 dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU1 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. 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FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1133MHz (1128.54-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 1073659904 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1036943360 (988 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Overriding SCI Interrupt from IRQ 3 to IRQ 30 acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4e8-0x4eb on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 vgapci0: mem 0xfeb80000-0xfebfffff,0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff at device 1.0 on pci0 fxp0: port 0x2200-0x223f mem 0xfeb7f000-0xfeb7ffff,0xfea00000-0xfeafffff irq 27 at device 2.0 on pci0 fxp0: Disabling dynamic standby mode in EEPROM fxp0: New EEPROM ID: 0x48a0 fxp0: EEPROM checksum @ 0x3f: 0xbe76 -> 0xbe76 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:55:c6:69:58 fxp0: [ITHREAD] fxp1: port 0x2240-0x227f mem 0xfeb7e000-0xfeb7efff,0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff irq 25 at device 10.0 on pci0 fxp1: Disabling dynamic standby mode in EEPROM fxp1: New EEPROM ID: 0x48a0 fxp1: EEPROM checksum @ 0x3f: 0x2d79 -> 0x2d79 miibus1: on fxp1 inphy1: PHY 1 on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: Ethernet address: 00:02:55:c6:69:59 fxp1: [ITHREAD] isab0: port 0x440-0x44f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x700-0x70f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] ohci0: mem 0xfeb7d000-0xfeb7dfff irq 7 at device 15.2 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: <(0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 ahc0: port 0x2300-0x23ff mem 0xeffff000-0xefffffff irq 28 at device 3.0 on pci1 ahc0: [ITHREAD] aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs atapci1: port 0x2280-0x22ff,0x2400-0x24ff mem 0xefffe000-0xefffefff,0xeffc0000-0xeffdffff irq 20 at device 5.0 on pci1 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] cpu0: on acpi0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcafff,0xcb000-0xcc7ff,0xcc800-0xd4fff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1128539539 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA150 ad6: 476940MB at ata3-master SATA300 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ar0: 476939MB status: READY ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:34:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773681065679 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB258FC4B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp14.yandex.ru (smtp14.yandex.ru [77.88.32.84]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 62D564C50FA for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:34:38 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 215-94-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.94.215]:56334 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S393316AbZAZXe2 (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:34:28 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp14 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233012868 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 1 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:34:34 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1292888884.20090127013434@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Can not set up two ADSL link to provider X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:41 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Freebsd-questions. I can not setup two ADSL PPPoE Links to same provider. Because of imposibility to setup route for second connection First connection gets: ng0: flags=88d1 metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 92.113.94.215 --> 195.5.5.203 netmask 0xffffffff Second can not be established because of: Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Add address 92.113.94.249/32->195.5.5.203 to ng1 Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Adding IPv4 address to ng1 failed: File exists My suggestion is that that FreeBSD can not establish two ptp links with same gateway, cat it? please help to resolve problem -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:39:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1392106566C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE068FC12 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D0F3CB7F; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:39:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0QNdYdb005827; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:39:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:39:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090127003934.3d828210.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126220623.GA76673@thought.org> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090126220623.GA76673@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:57 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:06:23 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > So what kind of moron is going to photograph pages --or maybe just > get-screenshot-of-this-page" and upload it? The PDF serves as a container for pictural images in this context. Another idea would be to have separate image files, one file per page, that you could view at with your favourite image viewer. The advantage of the PDF container is that you can easily print a bunch of pages (or, a book). > Or a Real question: > I read an online pdf of "The Art of War" from the 1880's [?], and > it was in an old-English or olden-Deutsch type font. In PDF. i > have other p.d. texts in pdf and am wondering in there is some > sort of scanner than can take a book-length script and create a > pdf file. Anybody know? It's very complicated to handle old fonts using OCR techniques. It's even quite complicated with today's standard fonts. Allthough there are (usually expensive) OCR programs with good algorithms, most documents need some work afterwards. It's not only about correcting mis-recognized characters, you have to handle hyphenation and paragraph typesetting as well. I know that there are scanners that can process a bunch op paper (sheets of paper) through an automatic feeder, then scan them and finally have a PDF file ready for FTP download. But there's no OCR involved, of course. > I got a bunch of ^L bytes and nothing > else. The Ctrl-L (^L) is the page break character (FF = form feed). The rest of the file then contains images that are not transformable into characters. > Now I'm looking at the file with od -c and, yup, it's and > image. The parts inbetween pages are in ASCII. Do you know what > "MediaBox" is? An image container maybe? So every page contains of a "MediaBox" container holding one image. > At least the web article was not an image! Don't mind, I know "important" web pages where the text content actually IS an image, and of course theres no alt= or longdesc= parameter because they're for weenies. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:40:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD0E1065697 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15088FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0QNe9F7007867; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:40:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0QNe8vt007807; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:40:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:40:08 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20090126225601.GB38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20090127003732.G2034@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090126233838.S1718@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126225122.GA38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20090126235236.F1785@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126225601.GB38262@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: .ape extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:40:17 -0000 ports/audio/mac works, thanks On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:52:48PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, David Kelly wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:39:19PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> is it any decruncher for unix for this format (it's compressed audio >>>> CD, from size i think it's kind of lossless compression) >>> >>> What does file(1) think it is? >>> >> don't think anything, says "data" > > Monkey's Audio: http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:51:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E3810656F7 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0D08FC1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C853CB94; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:51:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0QNpGtv005883; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:51:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:51:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090127005116.0e977d27.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126225113.GA78416@thought.org> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090126213648.GL66858@comcast.net> <20090126225113.GA78416@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:51:33 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:51:14 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Still, > before I get back to the Last few pages of my thesis, maybe I'll > try feeding parts of my most vanilla image-PDF file to an > opensource OCR program. I'm pretty sure there are a couple in > ports. IIRC, though, the images have to be jpegs of tiffs or the > like. If anybody knows, please give me a shout out! The best idea is to use a format that does not have artifacts due to image compression through DCT or similar algorithms, read: "real black-white pictures" (1 bit color). JPEG is not such a format, you can see this by magnifying the surrounding of text: it is gray and looks "dusty". TIFF, GIF and PNG surely are better formats for feeding images into an OCR processor. (Background: Long time ago, I knew a man who did electronics and printed circuit boards. In order to save hard disk space, he converted his 1-bit BMP images of the schematics and the PCB layout to JPEG format - instead of just zipping, raring or arjing them. He was very unhappy to see them coming out of the printer "so dirty, partially unreadable" then allthough it was a high quality office class laser printer. And when he took the PCBs out of the acid bath, their previously photochemical treated surface looked strange, had holes in the copper, ready to be thrown away. This man was very upset when he was told about DCT and artifacts. Later on, he used GIF images and turned happy again.) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:56:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19803106566C; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB248FC12; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so948638rvb.3 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:56:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q7OQ2RZVgM2yhkaLfjD4262ds4hsIH5RTVFS9sLzNw4=; b=stj4+LP1Jbzn54gKDdRezHPyJQadx0j48/4bJ08kXgbaI8mGdYHUm91GdsdByiUpw9 SlV79Z5fxJstT1V3so/qdVtLokJo7ofGstgn3ZZFkRUkNVQV5ejPb/p2qmKyEdLcOOvk wu9axl0y+/cSb3H5drnYkej77RP8ZzcHe3NCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kMsXrDMuKyzuHMZffQPalSBsKHymqfsfVBsX/L1yqpquXcDbwcSzFL/96ssVYZ1che apsk4ZnJKzoFKbcIrLXgFiw1I5OhdwLrH5KdWYJtjyl5ZNMwFotfmfPmcWsfAsu6dfhW 4HE7LyDTtSES80gjfQLSxL6KupdW33GzNHaXA= Received: by 10.142.224.12 with SMTP id w12mr1081852wfg.307.1233014173391; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm26774093wfc.42.2009.01.26.15.56.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:56:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497E4D9A.30208@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:56:10 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <8cb6106e0901251422q1412ed38gd14f7591d4dfcabd@mail.gmail.com> <497D4EA6.1020100@FreeBSD.org> <200901252241.05483.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090126181421.GA1472@phenom.cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: <20090126181421.GA1472@phenom.cordula.ws> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Doug Barton , Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:56:14 -0000 > That would be absolutely perfect! > +1 > Memory may fail me, but wasn't there a GSoC project to parallelize > the ports infrastructure? Or was that about building many different > ports simultaneously instead of one port on multiple cores? > > -cpghost. > http://wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCode2008#head-1abba39cb7f9d11ebef625f2287dbaebe6daf000 Ready to enter CVS: Probably not. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 23:57:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631E110656F5 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6338FC14 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B333F4ECCCC2; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 9CD132807E; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:57:10 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-ac899bb000000fcd-53-497e4dd6840d Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 829C128099; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:57:10 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Swiger To: KES In-Reply-To: <1292888884.20090127013434@yandex.ru> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <1292888884.20090127013434@yandex.ru> Message-Id: <79E49174-F6EC-4E97-AB7F-BCE05303A749@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:57:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can not set up two ADSL link to provider X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:57:20 -0000 On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:34 PM, KES wrote: > I can not setup two ADSL PPPoE Links to same provider. > Because of imposibility to setup route for second connection > First connection gets: > ng0: flags=88d1 > metric 0 mtu 1492 > inet 92.113.94.215 --> 195.5.5.203 netmask 0xffffffff > > Second can not be established because of: > Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Add address > 92.113.94.249/32->195.5.5.203 to ng1 > Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Adding IPv4 address to ng1 > failed: File exists You should talk to your network provider and ask them whether they want you to do multilink PPP or IEEE 802.3ad link aggregation. Either way, the bonding of the two connections should give you a single virtual network interface (tunX for the first, probably, and laggX in the second case) which has only a single route. For example: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/erx/junose80/swconfig-physical/html/ethernet-config14.html ...talks about "After you configure the LAG bundle, you can route IP traffic over it, create a VLAN over it, or route PPPoE traffic over it." Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 00:10:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21721065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E22A8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AB43CB46; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:10:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0R09tUl006091; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:09:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:09:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: cpghost Message-Id: <20090127010955.88683592.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090126223906.GA2444@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090126001822.GA38314@thought.org> <20090126005156.GJ66858@comcast.net> <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> <20090126080618.GA51983@thought.org> <20090126091623.a0b50f64.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090126220623.GA76673@thought.org> <20090126223906.GA2444@phenom.cordula.ws> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:10:07 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:39:06 +0100, cpghost wrote: > Those PDFs are usually scanned, > and the scanner software (usually on Windows) assembles all screenshots > into a PDF of images. Handy for printing, but not for OCR postprocessing. > That's what you find on the Net. On the Web. :-) > This is not such a bad idea, esp. when it comes to technical textbooks, > which usually contain a lot of diagrams, formulae, tables etc...; since > an OCR software that would be able to reverse all this into LaTeX and > EPS figures has yet to be programmed (that's a difficult task). As I've already mentioned, scanning the characters is only one part. Your example of diagrams and formulas is good to illustrate this. And because LaTeX is the only professional typesetting system (and no, "Word" isn't such a tool), it would be really great to have a tool pdf2tex which would get the characters of the text, typeset them as in the original (paragraphing, hyphenation etc.), input embedded pictures as pictures (of course), re-create formulas so the result would run through pdf-LaTeX and produce an improved version of the source PDF file. But that's a task for the next generation of mankind. :-) > Some PDFs encode the fonts > in a special section, and then use text (sometimes compressed > or encrypted), which refers to those fonts. In such a case, you > could extract the pure text from the PDF. It's worth mentioning that if the original text has characters (represented in the additionally stored fonts) that have special accents or orientations (non-english languages usually), the target system needs to support them, which it usually does through the means of UTF-8. > Other PDFs simply encode the book as a set of bitmaps (see above); > and then your only chance is to find an OCR software that would not > only be able to recognize the characters in the bitmaps, but also > to cope with those Fraktur- or other exotic fonts. Yes, das Doytsh Uberfrucktoor makes everything unreadable. :-) It gets even more complicated with hand-written books... > Some OCR programs > are interactive and trainable, so that you can say: this is an 'S', > and that is a 'T'..., but AFAIK, there's no free and open source > OCR program with this capability (yet). Wow, never heared of this concept, but really intelligent solution. If this really works, it still has the "disadvantage" of needing much time for training the program, and postprocessing. It's easier to \usepackage[german]{uberfraktur} to make the text unreadable again. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 00:30:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB6A1065672; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3A18FC17; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740FCAFC1FE; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:30:57 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:30:57 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090126181421.GA1472@phenom.cordula.ws> <497E4D9A.30208@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <497E4D9A.30208@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901261530.57255.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eitan Adler , Doug Barton , cpghost Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:30:58 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 14:56:10 Eitan Adler wrote: > > > > That would be absolutely perfect! > > +1 > > > > Memory may fail me, but wasn't there a GSoC project to parallelize > > the ports infrastructure? Or was that about building many different > > ports simultaneously instead of one port on multiple cores? > > > > -cpghost. > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCode2008#head-1abba39cb7f9d11ebef625f2287db >aebe6daf000 Ready to enter CVS: Probably not. This is different: it allows multiple ports to be built at the same time, not 1 port with multiple make processes. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 01:39:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B8B1065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DEC8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090127013936.BHUH26080.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@haran.polands.org>; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:36 +0000 Received: from moab.polands.org (moab.polands.org [172.16.1.8]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R1daRD047700; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:39:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from moab.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moab.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R1dZci012342; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:39:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@moab.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by moab.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0R1dZhi012341; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:39:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:39:35 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Mel Message-ID: <20090127013934.GA12318@polands.org> References: <497DC7E1.4080201@polands.org> <20090126172312.GA8644@polands.org> <200901260921.55827.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901260921.55827.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:38 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 09:21:55AM -0900, Mel wrote: > On Monday 26 January 2009 08:23:13 Doug Poland wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:25:37AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > > > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > >>>> I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD (6.3, > > >>>> 7.0) on different architectures (i386, SPARC64). > > >>>> > > >>>> What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all > > >>>> machines, but preserving ports/packages for each > > >>>> version/architecture. I also want to make rebuilding indexes > > >>>> run as fast as possible. > > >>>> > > >>>> Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3 ... > > >> > > >> ... > > >> > > >>> The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should > > >>> fix those problems: > > >>> PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} > > >>> INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} > > > > It would seem the package building tools (make package, portinstall > > -p) do not honor the PACKAGES setting in /etc/make.conf. The > > package is simply deposited in /usr/ports/{category}/{pkgname}. Is > > there a way to force the package builder to use this knob? > > make package respects it. > Curious... I tested it on two different machines, and make package did not put the package in the expected location. Perhaps I'm missing something? > portinstall -p might override it itself in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. > Hurray for sane defaults. > I will check that out, thanks. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 01:39:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8DF106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1EE8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.sk89q@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2465988ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:39:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3Z0788F3AQOot6VViv6gZ3jSBhjDk84VjBotjwQ8S6M=; b=rxrh1r15UUOPySU/4qHtACNV4YRlYJqyg/OeOGIctdwRv9ttRFiLPCiNs1YW32no+1 KK9qbVkoaJ7iao+lqglyA122TMGWyBa3u5q3LwkOaErt96wOrkP9iti9ZijzA3cYmZiR CURfI0Q/kjn3A2gELpP5ttsofO+02SNU858fU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iK7ekjU8fVv7a0KJ7gWAbnFrr47G3/SI79oKkhgz258w827JwrufIKdKmJCFLx9B50 u2cvfpH4DsCan9ssdr/XLlR6kiPGMVYh7K5tf0vEhwNXzWZqxymLAY/hJoj9qDYNcPVg hvTeSF0MsIp9hkoHKEYf8Q9s4/Vkkd3snhngE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.15.130 with SMTP id k2mr60038iba.31.1233020382355; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:39:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497DF10C.9000601@telenix.org> References: <825770ac0901252109n14c9de4exec2fe3c1daed335b@mail.gmail.com> <497D51E6.2000904@boosten.org> <825770ac0901252217m74882871o543027b0e32b9eb8@mail.gmail.com> <20090126093242.863c59b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <825770ac0901260752s16655f49ue069d2166450d672@mail.gmail.com> <497DF10C.9000601@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:39:42 -0800 Message-ID: <825770ac0901261739k19b6f65ap431db4a959a43262@mail.gmail.com> From: sk89q To: Chuck Robey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Boosten , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 forwarding through SSH: Can't open display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:39:44 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > sk89q wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Bill Moran wrote: >>> In response to sk89q : >>> >>>> I meant sshd_config. >>> Do you have the xauth package installed on the remote server? You don't >>> need a full X install, but X11 forwarding won't work without xauth >>> installed. >> >> Yes, I do (at least to my knowledge), but xauth is located at >> "/usr/local/bin/xauth". sshd wasn't able to find xauth, so I made a >> hard link at "/usr/X11/bin/xauth" to "/usr/local/bin/xauth". That >> fixed a can't-find-xauth error, and that's where I am now. > > I think a far more likely thing might be being missed here. Usually when I'm > surprised when a new system refuses to allow me to remotely open X apps, it's > not the problem of ssh, it's because X11, by default, doesn't open up the port > 6000 IP socket to allow remotes to work. You can easily use netstat, to look > for open sockets 6xxx range, opened by your X server. If you can't find it, > then some part of your X installation is likely giving the -nolisten tcp > commands when starting up the X server. I don't know how you open your X, so I > couldn't directly tell you how to fix this. > > Being a bit more honest, the X server itself doesn't block the remote ports. > It's all of the startup tools (like startx) which stick in the anti-remote > prejudice. Giving the fact that it IS a security risk, I guess they're right, > it just means that if you want remote operation, you need to tell X (via > whatever startup method you use) to stop blocking the opening of that port 6000. Well, the good news is that it works now. The bad news is that I don't know why. I haven't made a change to anything (except change /etc/motd and restart sshd, which I had already previously done numerous times). Nothing else has been restarted. However, I can say that it was most likely an issue on the server, because now it works with PuTTY, ssh -X on Windows, and ssh -X on Ubuntu. Nevertheless, performance (over the Internet) is pretty bad... so I'll probably have to look into NX (even though the version of FreeNX in the ports system presently doesn't support amd64...). Thanks for everyone's help, sk89q From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 02:31:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EFF106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7888FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AF6AFC1FE; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:31:18 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:31:18 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901260921.55827.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090127013934.GA12318@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20090127013934.GA12318@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901261731.18637.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Doug Poland Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:31:20 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 16:39:35 Doug Poland wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 09:21:55AM -0900, Mel wrote: > > On Monday 26 January 2009 08:23:13 Doug Poland wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:25:37AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > >>>> I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD (6.3, > > > >>>> 7.0) on different architectures (i386, SPARC64). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all > > > >>>> machines, but preserving ports/packages for each > > > >>>> version/architecture. I also want to make rebuilding indexes > > > >>>> run as fast as possible. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3 ... > > > >> > > > >> ... > > > >> > > > >>> The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should > > > >>> fix those problems: > > > >>> PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} > > > >>> INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} > > > > > > It would seem the package building tools (make package, portinstall > > > -p) do not honor the PACKAGES setting in /etc/make.conf. The > > > package is simply deposited in /usr/ports/{category}/{pkgname}. Is > > > there a way to force the package builder to use this knob? > > > > make package respects it. > > Curious... I tested it on two different machines, and make package did > not put the package in the expected location. Perhaps I'm missing > something? Ah, my bad: Mk/bsd.port.mk: do-package: ${TMPPLIST} @if [ -d ${PACKAGES} ]; then \ $PACKAGES has to be created before it respected. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 03:55:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB940106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A368B8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDCE5C2F65D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:56:46 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:55:02 +1000 Message-Id: <1233028502.1110.3.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:55:29 -0000 On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 22:04 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 11:22 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > Here's another one: > > > > /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -D_THREAD_SAFE > > -I/usr/local/include -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include > > -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -version-number > > 2:1:0 -no-undefined -o libXrandr.la -rpath /usr/local/lib Xrandr.lo > > XrrConfig.lo XrrCrtc.lo XrrMode.lo XrrOutput.lo XrrProperty.lo > > XrrScreen.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lX11 -L/usr/local/lib -lXext -lXrender > > -lX11 > > grep: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory > > sed: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory > > libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la' is not a valid libtool > > archive > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I tried a search myself: ng. > > I tried to find a config switch for libxcb: ng. > > > > Let me know what else you need or what I can do to help here. Obviously > > other ports are dependent on these and are therefore failing as well. > > FWIW this is an upgrade using portupgrade. > > This is fallout from the libxcb update. xcb-xlib no longer exists, you > need to update everything that depends on libxcb using your preferred > method. I'm now aware of that, but I'm trying to do the updates and nothing is working because they're all still asking for that package. I have to admit I'm not 100% proficient with updating to handle curl balls like this; can you supply some pointers as to how to get around this? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 03:56:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762081065697 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E08F8FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065C35C2E52D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:58:06 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:56:24 +1000 Message-Id: <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:56:48 -0000 On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 22:04 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 11:22 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > Here's another one: > > > > /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -D_THREAD_SAFE > > -I/usr/local/include -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include > > -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -version-number > > 2:1:0 -no-undefined -o libXrandr.la -rpath /usr/local/lib Xrandr.lo > > XrrConfig.lo XrrCrtc.lo XrrMode.lo XrrOutput.lo XrrProperty.lo > > XrrScreen.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lX11 -L/usr/local/lib -lXext -lXrender > > -lX11 > > grep: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory > > sed: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory > > libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la' is not a valid libtool > > archive > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I tried a search myself: ng. > > I tried to find a config switch for libxcb: ng. > > > > Let me know what else you need or what I can do to help here. Obviously > > other ports are dependent on these and are therefore failing as well. > > FWIW this is an upgrade using portupgrade. > > This is fallout from the libxcb update. xcb-xlib no longer exists, you > need to update everything that depends on libxcb using your preferred > method. I'd also like to point out that I just rebooted and X died in the hole... :) Missing rgb files and what not From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 04:20:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD46C1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vlad.sekulic@utoronto.ca) Received: from bureau63.ns.utoronto.ca (bureau63.ns.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4608FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vlad.sekulic@utoronto.ca) Received: from localhost (webmail16.ns.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.157]) by bureau63.ns.utoronto.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0R34BuU022687 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:04:11 -0500 Received: from 76-10-159-36.dsl.teksavvy.com (76-10-159-36.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.159.36]) by webmail.utoronto.ca (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:04:11 -0500 Message-ID: <20090126220411.b9c04ypy0wo04wkk@webmail.utoronto.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:04:11 -0500 X-ID: sekulicv From: Vladislav Sekulic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-PMX-Version: 5.4.2.338381, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2009.1.27.25524 Subject: Adding partitions to gmirror device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:20:40 -0000 Hi! I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on a couple of Sun X2100 servers, each =20 with 2X 250GB SATA drives that I've established a gmirror(8) over, =20 following the instructions in section 19.4 of the Handbook. Now, one of the machines, being transformed into a webserver, needs a =20 separate, newly created /var/www partition (its current partitions =20 only take up 27G of the total ~238G available). My dilemma is -- how do I add another partition without hosing the =20 system? It seems to me that there is no other way than to destroy the =20 gmirror, create the new partition, then re-create the gmirror. The =20 issue is how to proceed in a safe manner, without destroying any data =20 or causing undue hassle (time is of the essence, as always). My draft plan is as follows, with ad4 and ad6 being the component drives: $ sudo gmirror deactivate gm0 /dev/ad6 $ sudo gmirror deactivate gm0 /dev/ad4 $ sudo gmirror remove gm0 /dev/ad6 $ sudo gmirror remove gm0 /dev/ad4 I believe this would result in all metadata associated with the =20 gmirror to be wiped, and hence the gmirror to be destroyed, based on =20 my potentially faulty reading of the manpage. Then edit fstab to restore the ``/dev/mirror/gm0s1?'' entries to their =20 corresponding ``/dev/ad4s1?'' entries & reboot. Afterwards, would run ``bsdlabel -e ad4'', then newfs, and finally, =20 redo the gmirror sequence (following the steps in section 19.4 of the =20 handbook, as before). Am I missing any critical steps here, or have any redundant steps? Or =20 just not getting it? Thank you for any pointers! Vlad P.S. Is it possible to operate directly on the gm0 device, i.e., to =20 create a partition using it rather than destroying the entire gmirror? -- Vladislav Sekulic Research Computing System Administrator Systems and Networks Research Group Dept. of Computer Science, University of Toronto http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~pocsys From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 05:10:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A0D106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-173-50-231-101.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [173.50.231.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49868FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 9ACCEB650; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id BAA04110; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:23:18 GMT Message-Id: <200901270123.BAA04110@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:47:29 -0900." <200901252247.29775.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:23:18 +0000 From: Dieter Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:10:54 -0000 In message <200901252247.29775.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net>, Mel writes: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 04:28:47 Dieter wrote: > > >>>> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory > > >>>> > > > So the machine doesn't normally use swap much at all, but messing with > > the large ISO apparently kicked something out of memory, and the disk > > with the swap partition was already busy writing at the other end of > > the disk. > > > > Do you consider writing a large file to disk a "truly unspeakable" load? > > Just curious, since you're running 7.0: SCHED_4BSD or SCHED_ULE? And if you > have a chance to change it, does the scenario persist? kern.sched.name: 4BSD Right now I'm trying to collect enough info to fix the Seagate 2700.11 firmware fubar. Once that is resolved, I plan to update to 7.1. IIRC 7.1 defaults to ULE. If not I can try switching. But my understanding is that the scheduler pays little if any attention to I/O, a holdover from the days when CPU was the main thing that needed rationing. These days it is just the opposite. CPUs have gotten much much faster, but I/O is only slightly faster. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 05:34:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C6D106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B848FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090127053411.GSPJ29583.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:34:11 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (d75-156-151-50.abhsia.telus.net [75.156.151.50]) by priv-edmwaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id E46026343833431D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:34:11 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <497E9D04.8090409@telus.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:35:00 -0700 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090126233452.11DEB106566B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090126233452.11DEB106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030001040902030606080703" Subject: Nvidia, GDM, Xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:34:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030001040902030606080703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Surprised I don't see more postings, find it hard to believe I'm the only one unable to resolve this issue... Still can't get GDM working (gnome). Machine boots and drops back to console. Have tried playing with every setting in xorg.conf I can think of, have even tried nuking it completely. System will not boot to GUI. I can type startx and X... just fine... screen shows up, everything working (mouse/kb, etc). If I do GDM restart/stop, etc... nothing. I have no idea what the error is in Xorg.0.log that's causing an issue... I doesn't seem to me that there is a serious error. I have tried with x11/nvidia-driver, with driver off nvidia site, with nv, and with vesa. I can't get anything to work. Even more odd, is if I do a X -configure, my xorg.conf file has 32 of everything... 32 monitors, 32 drivers, 32 etc... and it will still not boot FreeBSD 7.1, Xorg 7.4, i386, intel cpu, system running fine before xorg 7.4, hald running, rc.conf should be fine, nvidia driver was working fine with compiz, etc. Have gone through all the steps in UPDATING, have even tried -ignoreABI... nothing working. I should at the very least be able to get Vesa or NV to work shouldn't I? Ports are all up to date with portmanager -u Have tried reinstall everything to do with xorg, etc (let machine run all night rebuilding everything). As I said before, don't care about 3d right now, would just like to see good old gnome once again. ... help :) Sorry for the log... didn't want to leave anything out in case I'm overlooking something. --------------030001040902030606080703 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Xorg.0.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Xorg.0.log" X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD nehe 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #13: Sun Jan 25 07:41:34 MST 2009 jeffm@nehe:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NeHe i386 Build Date: 26 January 2009 05:46:26PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jan 26 20:24:19 2009 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) Including the default font path /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd' or 'mouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Mouse0 (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 (II) Loader magic: 0x81b3460 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 4.1 X.Org XInput driver : 2.1 X.Org Server Extension : 1.1 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6 (II) Loader running on freebsd (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS] rev 0, Mem @ 0xcc000000/0, 0xb0000000/0, 0xca000000/0, I/O @ 0x00009c00/0, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "freetype" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (==) AIGLX disabled (==) Exporting typical set of GLX visuals (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.6 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "nv" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so (II) Module nv: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 2.1.12 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1 (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, Unknown TNT2, Vanta, RIVA TNT2 Ultra, RIVA TNT2 Model 64, Aladdin TNT2, GeForce 256, GeForce DDR, Quadro, GeForce2 MX/MX 400, GeForce2 MX 100/200, GeForce2 Go, Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go, GeForce2 Integrated GPU, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 Ti, GeForce2 Ultra, Quadro2 Pro, GeForce4 MX 460, GeForce4 MX 440, GeForce4 MX 420, GeForce4 MX 440-SE, GeForce4 440 Go, GeForce4 420 Go, GeForce4 420 Go 32M, GeForce4 460 Go, Quadro4 550 XGL, GeForce4 440 Go 64M, Quadro NVS, Quadro4 500 GoGL, GeForce4 410 Go 16M, GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 4000, GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 488 Go, Quadro4 580 XGL, Quadro4 NVS 280 SD, Quadro4 380 XGL, Quadro NVS 50 PCI, GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU, GeForce3, GeForce3 Ti 200, GeForce3 Ti 500, Quadro DCC, GeForce4 Ti 4600, GeForce4 Ti 4400, GeForce4 Ti 4200, Quadro4 900 XGL, Quadro4 750 XGL, Quadro4 700 XGL, GeForce4 Ti 4800, GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X, GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE, GeForce4 4200 Go, Quadro4 700 GoGL, Quadro4 980 XGL, Quadro4 780 XGL, GeForce FX 5800 Ultra, GeForce FX 5800, Quadro FX 2000, Quadro FX 1000, GeForce FX 5600 Ultra, GeForce FX 5600, GeForce FX 5600XT, GeForce FX Go5600, GeForce FX Go5650, Quadro FX Go700, GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200LE, GeForce FX Go5200, GeForce FX Go5250, GeForce FX 5500, GeForce FX 5100, GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M, Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI, Quadro FX 500/600 PCI, GeForce FX Go53xx Series, GeForce FX Go5100, GeForce FX 5900 Ultra, GeForce FX 5900, GeForce FX 5900XT, GeForce FX 5950 Ultra, GeForce FX 5900ZT, Quadro FX 3000, Quadro FX 700, GeForce FX 5700 Ultra, GeForce FX 5700, GeForce FX 5700LE, GeForce FX 5700VE, GeForce FX Go5700, GeForce FX Go5700, Quadro FX Go1000, Quadro FX 1100, GeForce 6800 Ultra, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XE, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800 XT, Quadro FX 4000, GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce Go 6800, GeForce Go 6800 Ultra, Quadro FX Go1400, Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI, Quadro FX 1400, GeForce 6600 GT, GeForce 6600, GeForce 6600 LE, GeForce 6600 VE, GeForce Go 6600, GeForce 6610 XL, GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE, GeForce 6700 XL, GeForce Go 6600, GeForce Go 6600 GT, Quadro FX 550, Quadro FX 550, Quadro FX 540, GeForce 6200, GeForce 6500, GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM), GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(TM), GeForce 6200 LE, GeForce Go 6200, Quadro NVS 285, GeForce Go 6400, GeForce Go 6200, GeForce Go 6400, GeForce 6250, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce 6200, GeForce 6200 A-LE, GeForce 7800 GTX, GeForce 7800 GTX, GeForce 7800 GT, GeForce 7800 GS, GeForce 7800 SLI, GeForce Go 7800, GeForce Go 7800 GTX, Quadro FX 4500, GeForce 7300 LE, GeForce 7300 SE, GeForce Go 7200, GeForce Go 7300, GeForce Go 7400, GeForce Go 7400 GS, Quadro NVS 110M, Quadro NVS 120M, Quadro FX 350M, GeForce 7500 LE, Quadro FX 350, GeForce 7300 GS, GeForce 7600 GT, GeForce 7600 GS, GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce 7600 LE, GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce Go 7700, GeForce Go 7600, GeForce Go 7600 GT, Quadro NVS 300M, GeForce Go 7900 SE, Quadro FX 550M, Quadro FX 560, GeForce 7900 GTX, GeForce 7900 GT, GeForce 7900 GS, GeForce Go 7900 GS, GeForce Go 7900 GTX, Quadro FX 2500M, Quadro FX 1500M, Quadro FX 5500, Quadro FX 3500, Quadro FX 1500, Quadro FX 4500 X2, GeForce 6150, GeForce 6150 LE, GeForce 6100, GeForce Go 6150, GeForce Go 6100, GeForce 8800 GTX, GeForce 8800 GTS, GeForce 8800 Ultra, Quadro FX 5600, Quadro FX 4600, GeForce 8600 GTS, GeForce 8600 GT, GeForce 8600 GT, GeForce 8600 GS, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 9500M GS, GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 9650M GS, GeForce 8700M GT, Quadro FX 370, Quadro NVS 320M, Quadro FX 570M, Quadro FX 1600M, Quadro FX 570, Quadro FX 1700, GeForce 8400 SE, GeForce 8500 GT, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 8300 GS, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 8600M GS, GeForce 8400M GT, GeForce 8400M GS, GeForce 8400M G, Quadro NVS 140M, Quadro NVS 130M, Quadro NVS 135M, GeForce 9400 GT, Quadro FX 360M, GeForce 9300M G, Quadro NVS 290, GeForce GTX 280, GeForce GTX 260, GeForce 8800 GTS 512, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 9800 GX2, GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce 8800M GTS, GeForce 8800M GTX, GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce 9600 GSO, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 9800 GTX, GeForce 9800 GTK+, GeForce 9800 GT, Quadro FX 3700, Quadro FX 3600M, GeForce 9600 GT, GeForce 9600 GS, GeForce 9800M GTS, GeForce 9700M GTS, GeForce 9800M GTS, GeForce 9500 GT, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce 9600M GS, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce 9500M G, GeForce 9300 GS, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 9300M GS, GeForce 9200M GS, GeForce 9300M GS, Quadro NVS 150M, Quadro NVS 160M (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0 (--) NV: Found NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS at 01@00:00:0 (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1 (II) NV(0): Initializing int10 (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear (II) NV(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (--) NV(0): Console is VGA mode 0x3 (==) NV(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NV(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NV(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NV(0): Using hardware cursor (==) NV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) NV(0): MMIO registers mapped at 0x34540000 (--) NV(0): Total video RAM: 640.0 MB (--) NV(0): BAR1 size: 256.0 MB (--) NV(0): Mapped memory: 256.0 MB (II) NV(0): Linear framebuffer mapped at 0x35540000 (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Module "i2c" already built-in (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Module "ddc" already built-in (--) NV(0): Connector map: (--) NV(0): Bus 1 -> DAC1 (--) NV(0): Bus 1 -> SOR1 (--) NV(0): Bus 2 -> DAC2 (--) NV(0): Bus 2 -> SOR0 (--) NV(0): Load detection: 420 (II) NV(0): I2C bus "I2C1" initialized. (II) NV(0): Output VGA1 using monitor section Monitor0 (II) NV(0): Output DVI1 has no monitor section (II) NV(0): I2C bus "I2C2" initialized. (II) NV(0): Output VGA2 has no monitor section (II) NV(0): Output DVI0 has no monitor section (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus 1... (II) NV(0): I2C device "I2C1:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (--) NV(0): DDC detected a DFP: (II) NV(0): Manufacturer: DEL Model: 4033 Serial#: 1096372556 (II) NV(0): Year: 2008 Week: 3 (II) NV(0): EDID Version: 1.3 (II) NV(0): Digital Display Input (II) NV(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 43 vert.: 27 (II) NV(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) NV(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off (II) NV(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 (II) NV(0): Default color space is primary color space (II) NV(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) NV(0): redX: 0.635 redY: 0.342 greenX: 0.292 greenY: 0.611 (II) NV(0): blueX: 0.147 blueY: 0.070 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 (II) NV(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) NV(0): 720x400@70Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@60Hz (II) NV(0): 640x480@75Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@60Hz (II) NV(0): 800x600@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@60Hz (II) NV(0): 1024x768@75Hz (II) NV(0): 1280x1024@75Hz (II) NV(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported Future Video Modes: (II) NV(0): #0: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337 (II) NV(0): #1: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 (II) NV(0): #2: hsize: 1680 vsize 1050 refresh: 60 vid: 179 (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 146.2 MHz Image Size: 433 x 270 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 1680 h_sync: 1784 h_sync_end 1960 h_blank_end 2240 h_border: 0 (II) NV(0): v_active: 1050 v_sync: 1053 v_sync_end 1059 v_blanking: 1089 v_border: 0 (II) NV(0): Serial No: PR10381DAYQL (II) NV(0): Monitor name: DellSP2008WFP (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 56 V max: 76 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 83 kHz, PixClock max 160 MHz (II) NV(0): EDID (in hex): (II) NV(0): 00ffffffffffff0010ac33404c515941 (II) NV(0): 03120103802b1b78eeaec5a2574a9c25 (II) NV(0): 125054a54b00714f8180b30001010101 (II) NV(0): 01010101010121399030621a274068b0 (II) NV(0): 3600b10e1100001c000000ff00505231 (II) NV(0): 30333831444159514c0a000000fc0044 (II) NV(0): 656c6c535032303038574650000000fd (II) NV(0): 00384c1e5310000a20202020202000c3 (--) NV(0): Trying load detection on VGA1 ... nothing. (II) NV(0): EDID vendor "DEL", prod id 16435 (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus 2... (II) NV(0): I2C device "I2C2:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) NV(0): I2C device "I2C2:ddc2" removed. (II) NV(0): ... none found (--) NV(0): Trying load detection on VGA2 ... nothing. (II) NV(0): Output VGA1 disconnected (II) NV(0): Output DVI1 connected (II) NV(0): Output VGA2 disconnected (II) NV(0): Output DVI0 disconnected (II) NV(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes (II) NV(0): Output DVI1 using initial mode 1680x1050 (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1680x1680 (pitch 1792) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1680x1050": 146.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 65.3 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1680x1050": 147.1 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 65.2 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync (65.2 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1400x1050": 155.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 81.5 kHz, 74.8 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1400x1050"x74.8 155.80 1400 1464 1784 1912 1050 1052 1064 1090 +hsync +vsync (81.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1400x1050": 122.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 64.9 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1400x1050"x60.0 122.00 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1052 1064 1082 +hsync +vsync (64.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1280x1024": 108.9 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 63.6 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0 108.88 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1060 -hsync +vsync (63.6 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x960"x60.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1152x864": 105.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 67.7 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0 104.99 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 902 -hsync +vsync (67.7 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.1 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "896x672": 102.4 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 83.7 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "896x672"x60.0 102.40 896 960 1060 1224 672 672 674 697 doublescan -hsync +vsync (83.7 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 87.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 81.2 kHz, 65.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x65.0 87.75 800 832 928 1080 600 600 602 625 doublescan +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 81.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.0 81.00 800 832 928 1080 600 600 602 625 doublescan +hsync +vsync (75.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "700x525": 77.9 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 81.5 kHz, 74.8 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "700x525"x74.8 77.90 700 732 892 956 525 526 532 545 doublescan +hsync +vsync (81.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "700x525": 61.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 64.9 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "700x525"x60.0 61.00 700 744 820 940 525 526 532 541 doublescan +hsync +vsync (64.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x512": 67.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x512"x75.0 67.50 640 648 720 844 512 512 514 533 doublescan +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x512": 54.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x512"x60.0 54.00 640 664 720 844 512 512 514 533 doublescan +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 54.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 54.00 640 688 744 900 480 480 482 500 doublescan +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 31.5 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Driver mode "720x400": 28.3 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 31.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "576x432": 54.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "576x432"x75.0 54.00 576 608 672 800 432 432 434 450 doublescan +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 39.4 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384"x75.0 39.38 512 520 568 656 384 384 386 400 doublescan +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 37.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384"x70.1 37.50 512 524 592 664 384 385 388 403 doublescan -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "512x384"x60.0 32.50 512 524 592 672 384 385 388 403 doublescan -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "416x312": 28.6 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 49.7 kHz, 74.7 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "416x312"x74.7 28.64 416 432 464 576 312 312 314 333 doublescan -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (**) NV(0): Default mode "400x300": 25.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (D) (II) NV(0): Modeline "400x300"x72.2 25.00 400 428 488 520 300 318 321 333 doublescan +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (==) NV(0): DPI set to (96, 96) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libxaa.so (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (--) NV(0): 212.51 MB available for offscreen pixmaps (II) NV(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Scanline Image Writes Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 32 256x256 slots 16 512x512 slots (==) NV(0): Backing store disabled (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) NV(0): DPMS enabled (II) NV(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. (--) RandR disabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 433 x 270 (II) config/hal: Adding input device product 0x0000 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.4.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1 (**) product 0x0000: Device: "/dev/ums0" (==) product 0x0000: Protocol: "Auto" (**) product 0x0000: always reports core events (**) Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" (==) product 0x0000: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) product 0x0000: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) product 0x0000: Buttons: 9 (**) product 0x0000: Sensitivity: 1 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "product 0x0000" (type: MOUSE) (II) product 0x0000: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 5, hw.model is 0 (II) product 0x0000: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (WW) fcntl(11, O_ASYNC): Inappropriate ioctl for device (II) config/hal: Adding input device G15 Gaming Keyboard (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.3.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1 (**) G15 Gaming Keyboard: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) G15 Gaming Keyboard: Protocol: standard (**) Option "Device" "/dev/ukbd0" (EE) G15 Gaming Keyboard: cannot open "/dev/ukbd0" (EE) PreInit failed for input device "G15 Gaming Keyboard" (II) UnloadModule: "kbd" (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) --------------030001040902030606080703-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:23:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A771065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B20F8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so21149fga.35 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:23:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Gn/Triuw2atDMKjjXedVlPceHwvg8dlAGDu48jPrMKk=; b=Yy9uZMqaUxiDtmQ8EkxtG4LERIfgMvEO7FxB6B6W00Qq9nC8JQEF92i3HCMSIKfuGS iTeMqKWWBsu/mDrWWbgWa7zzVOK1IX+KujQck3ciAnufSAiRDBSMjOZij+5BYHQYoj9B 71QyKnGhcTW5U9kZ9Fibt0pMEG1FSKmIzI/Hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eV+OY9fkPWA5DD6QMmQN9Kf3uPZ0oejOi0wdbQbjNR0dn1RpKtTIWX6z+Vg2C4XuHK bxGn+jmawMMpA0hrJYMs6LluFzVp4iR9vPBo2hynBdeLbow2CnzW/9I/M0KCSMwqDAJ+ BHQc44igwh60bFAWnbGpNkNflX/KaSk13AASY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.66 with SMTP id b2mr168188fas.18.1233037435203; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:23:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497E9D04.8090409@telus.net> References: <20090126233452.11DEB106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <497E9D04.8090409@telus.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:23:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310901262223j1f6ec244n1b9872453d14162f@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Jeff Molofee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia, GDM, Xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:23:56 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/131016 -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:31:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81E2106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78A38FC25 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0R6GPSg002865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:16:26 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:31:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.157 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:31:34 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 17:02:05 n j wrote: > Linus Torvalds on KDE4... > > [quote] > > A: I used to be a KDE user. I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster I > switched to GNOME. I hate the fact that my right button doesn't do > what I want it to do. But the whole "break everything" model is > painful for users and they can choose to use something else. > > I realise the reason for the 4.0 release, but I think they did it > badly. They did so many changes it was a half-baked release. It may > turn out to be the right decision in the end and I will re-try KDE, > but I suspect I'm not the only person they lost. I've seen it suggested that KDE4 is faster than KDE3. I'm running FreeBSD 7.0 - granted, my machine is not brand-new: it's a P4 1.8GHz with 512MB of RAM and an NVidia GeForce MX4000 (I mention the graphics card because the latest NVidia binary driver doesn't support it). KDE3.5 does what I want my window manager to do - keeps out of my way and works snappily enough that I don't notice it. I recently installed PCBSD7.02, which uses KDE4.1. It's unusable. For example, with only two applications running - the KBreakout game and the Psi Jabber/XMPP client - the game was unplayable because each time Psi received an incoming chat or event, the game froze for a second or two while KDE struggled to open the chat window. The claim that KDE4 is faster than KDE3 is frankly incredible to me. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:32:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1771065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from da.ajoy@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345868FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from da.ajoy@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so9866582qyk.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:32:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :user-agent; bh=VwvINAffrdDuo0kuK54PGU7R6KnMEknZrS2f88nF2uA=; b=Ed6GBEZxg3xrNiTufK1oeoRJ26OzXqfRxwRUJYDahhg/JaPvfRNLNB5vlZUe+SG0bi YvWIe3IaYwZQZeOkfoucjqSA78r+xc4oLR941qImRCglRG6y2g/tX64d9lmjp3/xhHze mTJPx+unScGZTCGtPVwiRPii+HnW77ez528HY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:user-agent; b=NyWpcp/LU0dYYKO3mScTeoDFmIG/KJ/+lAqQ7++C8ZxIBnETCsbDXRUmLjd7OFB8oU 1J9zmd8HMhAAjMd3TqnctVrTv8NoNMKqEAt8d7jdbGb5ZUu4dDSW+5E0oJmd9RpzOAT9 WwJZJrKSVrS4mRskRb48p7kbj42WBu4K5UY1s= Received: by 10.214.43.20 with SMTP id q20mr4356484qaq.205.1233036016117; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from daniel-pc ([190.152.74.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm2603309yxt.11.2009.01.26.22.00.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:00:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:00:09 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Daniel Ajoy" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) Subject: Re: /rescue is huge!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:32:11 -0000 http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2004-07/0442.html This is what's happening to me: ================== In the last episode (Jul 06), Richard Bradley said: > On Tuesday 06 July 2004 2:36 am, you wrote: > > In the last episode (Jul 06), Richard Bradley said: > > > I recently tried to add a user to my FreeBSD box, but was amazed > > > to find that the / partition was full! I had a look, and the > > > culprit is the "/rescue" folder, holding 135 statically linked > > > binaries of nearly 4Mb each, giving a folder size of 491Mb! > > > > Check the inode number of each file in /rescue (ls -li /rescue). > > You'll notice they're all the same, which means they're all > > hardlinks to the same file. "du /rescue" should report under 4MB. > > > > Your space is probably being taken up somewhere else. > > That's very strange if true, because since deleting the "/rescue" > folder, the used space on / has gone from 550Mb+ to 129Mb. I can't > check the inodes now, as I have `rm`ed them all! If at some point you had copied /rescue with cp (instead of a tar pipe or something else that preserves hardlinks), you would have gotten a separate file for each link. ================== my ls looks like this: ls -li /rescue total 427594 26 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 [ 64 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 atacontrol 65 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 atm 66 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 atmconfig 67 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 badsect 68 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bsdlabel 69 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bunzip2 70 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bzcat 71 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bzip2 72 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 camcontrol 73 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 cat ... how do I reduce the size of the rescue directory? Or, as a last resort, can I safely move it under /usr (which is in a different partition)? Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:47:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B70106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509048FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8205C2E798 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:48:55 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ad871310901262223j1f6ec244n1b9872453d14162f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090126233452.11DEB106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <497E9D04.8090409@telus.net> <4ad871310901262223j1f6ec244n1b9872453d14162f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:47:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1233038831.1202.14.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nvidia, GDM, Xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:47:34 -0000 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 01:23 -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/131016 > According to the latest UPDATING (thanks for the reminder Robert) this shouldn't be a problem anymore. Not that I should talk- my X hasn't started since I ran portupgrade -a last.... :D hopefully the portupgrade -a -rf I'm running currently will have success for me. Read that and try some of the tips there- in particular have you got any errors on the RGBPath? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:56:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540D41065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADA38FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141435C2E715 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:58:06 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +1000 Message-Id: <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:56:45 -0000 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 08:31 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Monday 26 January 2009 17:02:05 n j wrote: > > Linus Torvalds on KDE4... > > > > [quote] > > > > A: I used to be a KDE user. I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster I > > switched to GNOME. I hate the fact that my right button doesn't do > > what I want it to do. But the whole "break everything" model is > > painful for users and they can choose to use something else. > > > > I realise the reason for the 4.0 release, but I think they did it > > badly. They did so many changes it was a half-baked release. It may > > turn out to be the right decision in the end and I will re-try KDE, > > but I suspect I'm not the only person they lost. > > I've seen it suggested that KDE4 is faster than KDE3. > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0 - granted, my machine is not brand-new: it's a P4 > 1.8GHz with 512MB of RAM and an NVidia GeForce MX4000 (I mention the graphics > card because the latest NVidia binary driver doesn't support it). KDE3.5 does > what I want my window manager to do - keeps out of my way and works snappily > enough that I don't notice it. > > I recently installed PCBSD7.02, which uses KDE4.1. It's unusable. For example, > with only two applications running - the KBreakout game and the Psi > Jabber/XMPP client - the game was unplayable because each time Psi received > an incoming chat or event, the game froze for a second or two while KDE > struggled to open the chat window. > > The claim that KDE4 is faster than KDE3 is frankly incredible to me. Wouldn't that be dependent on the Xorg server version and setup? It may be that some extra features of the video you're using need to be enabled. That said I'm not very impressed either (speed, features, etc). It looks to me like they've gone to compete with Vista and have succeeded there, but I find some of the little extras and the core of it seem unfinished somehow. The concept is good (in that it could compete with Vista), but to be completely successful in that venture even the aesthetics need to be tidied up. I'm also ashamed that they released it in a hurry to compete in this condition to a very sceptical Window$ crowd. If they had of waited and finished it properly even if it didn't reach the masses before Vista they may have pulled more disgruntled users from the M$ addiction. Now most are under the impression that nothing is any better than the crap they have now so they may as well stick with it... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 07:34:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88A91065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: from c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (c220-239-136-154.frank2.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.239.136.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341268FC1C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: from c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0Q7HFVu070778 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:17:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: (from andrewr@localhost) by c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0Q7H5u4070773 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:17:05 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) X-Authentication-Warning: c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au: andrewr set sender to A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:17:05 +1100 From: Andrew Robinson To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20090126071705.GQ1313@ms.unimelb.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:34:50 -0000 Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:20:51 -0500 > From: Chuck Robey > Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Message-ID: <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Charlie Kester wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jan 2009 at 16:18:26 PST Gary Kline wrote: > >> > >> Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] > >> chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can build? > > > > pdfsam ( http://www.pdfsam.org/ ) does both splits and merges of pdf > > files, but it doesn't seem to be in the FreeBSD ports system. > > > > There is a pdfmerge in /usr/ports/print, but no pdfsplit. > > > > It's a very junky way to do it (but the only way I know), use pdf2ps > to convert the pdf to postscript, then you stand at least a good > chance of doing the split, which many utilities allow. You could even > do it graphically via gv. The problem with this (and the reason it > might well fail anyhow) is because some things that pdfs do aren't > implemented in any standard postscript level I ever heard of. It > depends how many of the more recent extensions to pdf are being used. > I've done this, *sometimes*. > > Because the pdf spec is fully published, it might one day allow > someone to write a splitter, but because the spec is SO enormous, > maybe they won't, either. Actually, that's a really good notion ... I > need to give it some thought. It's not quite the same thing, but pdfnup from the /usr/ports/print/pdfjam package allows page selections from the contributing pdfs. http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic/firth/software/pdfjam Andrew > > -- Charlie > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkl9D/MACgkQz62J6PPcoOnxIQCgg+Suf4NpK8TXTNbYZIW0BCrR > fKYAn3ljinZw9s1fPG39IMpblVNg0H+N > =mGhJ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Andrew Robinson Department of Mathematics and Statistics Tel: +61-3-8344-6410 University of Melbourne, VIC 3010 Australia Fax: +61-3-8344-4599 http://www.ms.unimelb.edu.au/~andrewpr http://blogs.mbs.edu/fishing-in-the-bay/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 07:47:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC991065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D538FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0R7WKft004478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:20 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:47:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20090126071705.GQ1313@ms.unimelb.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <20090126071705.GQ1313@ms.unimelb.edu.au> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.176 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:47:28 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 09:17:05 Andrew Robinson wrote: > Message: 2 > > > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:20:51 -0500 > > From: Chuck Robey > > Subject: Re: can i split a pdf file? > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Message-ID: <497D0FF3.6090402@telenix.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Charlie Kester wrote: > > > On Sun 25 Jan 2009 at 16:18:26 PST Gary Kline wrote: > > >> Is there a way to split a large pdf file into smaller [ say 1MB ] > > >> chunks? Or are there open source tools out there that i can > > >> build? [various suggestions including pdfmerge and psnup from ports] Alternatively, if you have a reasonably complete TeX installation (I'm still using teTeX), check whether you have texexec installed - which can extract pages from PDFs. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 08:17:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622301065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF7F8FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LRipF-00055f-0H for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:57:37 +1100 From: Warren Liddell Organization: Blackthorn PTY LTD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:57:40 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901271757.40290.shinjii@maydias.com> Cc: Subject: Programs loading but sitting in limbo whilst not displaying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:17:33 -0000 Im running FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE4.1.4 and recently for no reason i can think of when i try and load FireFox or Thunderbird, according to my process list, the applications are running, but yet they dont ever show up in KDE to use//liaise with. I have even started them from command line but again, nothing, it just sits there, no error msg, but process list again, sais there running. I have tried recompiling both ports with no success and im runnin gout of theorys as to whats happening. Any ideas/thoughts welcomed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 08:38:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7A0106567D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA1B8FC3C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R8cEAd013113; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:38:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0R8cDW9013110; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:38:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:38:13 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Ajoy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090127093659.X13109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /rescue is huge!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:38:25 -0000 > > > ls -li /rescue > > total 427594 > 26 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 [ > 64 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 atacontrol > 65 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 atm > 66 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 atmconfig > 67 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 badsect > 68 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bsdlabel > 69 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bunzip2 > 70 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bzcat > 71 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 bzip2 > 72 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 camcontrol > 73 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3324376 Jan 12 2007 cat do cd /rescue echo * >/tmp/xxx edit /tmp/xxx - remove all files that doesn't have 3324376 size, and one file of 3324376, say it will be cat then rm `cat /tmp/xxx` for x in `cat /tmp/xxx`;do ln cat $x;done From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 08:39:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C910656D1 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6938FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R8dUtQ013120; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:39:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0R8dUZU013117; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:39:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:39:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: <20090127093900.C13109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:39:44 -0000 > to me like they've gone to compete with Vista and have succeeded there, > but I find some of the little extras and the core of it seem unfinished > somehow. The concept is good (in that it could compete with Vista), but no it's bad. if they wat compete with windows, let they do the whole OS, and one that runs windoze binaries directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 08:49:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80769106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BDB8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srv47.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.137]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 09:48:58 +0100 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.188]) by srv47.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:48:58 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:48:58 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0R8mwfI004128 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:48:58 +0100 Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0R8mwte004127 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:48:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:48:58 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127084858.GA4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2009 08:48:58.0290 (UTC) FILETIME=[17E37920:01C9805C] Subject: portupgrade dies during upgrade of x11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:03 -0000 Hi, During an upgrade of my ports involving x11 portupgrade dies (FreeBSD 7.1, AMD64) Here's what I did: After cvsup, make fetchindex, I did a pkgdb -F and then portupgrade -rf libxcb as per UPDATING of 20090123. Next I did a pkgdb -F again, which complained about obsoleted packages while at the same time telling me that they're still needed, so I didn'd de-install them: # pkgdb -F ---> Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'x11/xorg-protos': perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'x11/xorg-protos' was removed on 2009-01-23 because: "Not really necessary" -> Hint: xorg-protos-7.3_2 is required by the following package(s): xorg-7.3_2 -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by xorg-protos-7.3_2 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall xorg-protos-7.3_2 ? [no] Stale origin: 'x11/xphelloworld': perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'x11/xphelloworld' was removed on 2009-01-24 because: "Xprint application, deprecated upstream" -> Hint: xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 is required by the following package(s): xorg-7.3_2 xorg-apps-7.3 -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 ? [no] Duplicated origin: delete - xorg-protos-7.3_2 xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 Unregister any of them? [no] Stale dependency: xorg-7.3_2 -> add (x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome): Fixed. (-> xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.903) Stale dependency: xorg-7.3_2 -> xinput-1.4.0 (x11/xinput): xinit-1.1.1 (score:18%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] Install stale dependency? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] a [Gathering depends for x11/xinput ................................................................. done] ---> Installing 'xinput-1.4.0' from a port (x11/xinput) ---> Building '/usr/ports/x11/xinput' . . . ===> Compressing manual pages for xinput-1.4.0 ===> Registering installation for xinput-1.4.0 ===> Cleaning for xinput-1.4.0 Fixed. (-> xinput-1.4.0) Stale dependency: xorg-apps-7.3 -> xinput-1.4.0 (x11/xinput): xinput-1.4.0 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] a Fixed. (-> xinput-1.4.0) # After that I started portupgrade -arR which died in the following way: # portupgrade -arR ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga: is marked as broken: Needs to be removed ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-via: requires pciVideoPtr typedef ** Port directory not found: x11/xorg-protos ** Port directory not found: x11/xphelloworld ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg-apps' (xorg-apps-7.3) because a requisite package 'xphelloworld-1.0.1_1' (x11/xphelloworld) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'x11-drivers/xorg-drivers' (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) because a requisite package 'xf86-video-vga-4.1.0_2' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg' (xorg-7.3_2) because a requisite package 'xorg-apps-7.3' (x11/xorg-apps) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga (marked as IGNORE) - x11-drivers/xf86-video-via (marked as IGNORE) - x11/xorg-protos (port directory error) - x11/xphelloworld (port directory error) * x11/xorg-apps (xorg-apps-7.3) * x11-drivers/xorg-drivers (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) * x11/xorg (xorg-7.3_2) # I've also tried to uninstall x11/xorg-protos during pkgdb -F which also died: # pkgdb -F ---> Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'x11/xorg-protos': perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'x11/xorg-protos' was removed on 2009-01-23 because: "Not really necessary" -> Hint: xorg-protos-7.3_2 is required by the following package(s): xorg-7.3_2 -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by xorg-protos-7.3_2 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall xorg-protos-7.3_2 ? [no] yes ---> Deinstalling 'xorg-protos-7.3_2' pkg_delete: package 'xorg-protos-7.3_2' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled: xorg-7.3_2 ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! xorg-protos-7.3_2 (pkg_delete failed) Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_deinstall xorg-protos-7.3_2 # Any way to resolve this? Thanks much in advance for any clue, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:07:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69721106567A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441388FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRjuo-0000JP-V4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:07:27 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRjun-00019l-Ua for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:07:26 +0000 Message-ID: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:07:25 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:07:28 -0000 Hello all. What we have: Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). All latest version from ports. After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. We swap RAM - not helps. We swap chassis - not helps. I rebiuld all ports - not helps. (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) In attach screens of error what i have to catch. Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:09:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C077E10656D4 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4898FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R99MdK017096; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:09:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0R99M6o017093; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:09:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:09:22 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jonathan McKeown In-Reply-To: <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Message-ID: <20090127100857.V17092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:09:33 -0000 > card because the latest NVidia binary driver doesn't support it). KDE3.5 does > what I want my window manager to do - keeps out of my way and works snappily > enough that I don't notice it. > The claim that KDE4 is faster than KDE3 is frankly incredible to me. > fastest and most stable is not using it at all. it doesn't offer anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:10:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F72C10657AF for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582618FC27 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0R9A63J017104; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:10:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0R9A5jx017101; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:10:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:10:05 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Vladislav Sekulic In-Reply-To: <20090126220411.b9c04ypy0wo04wkk@webmail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <20090127100947.M17100@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090126220411.b9c04ypy0wo04wkk@webmail.utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding partitions to gmirror device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:10:14 -0000 > 2X 250GB SATA drives that I've established a gmirror(8) over, following the > instructions in section 19.4 of the Handbook. > > Now, one of the machines, being transformed into a webserver, needs a > separate, newly created /var/www partition (its current partitions only take > up 27G of the total ~238G available). > > My dilemma is -- how do I add another partition without hosing the system? normally bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/yourmirror and add partition From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:30:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17D51065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wearabnet@yahoo.ca) Received: from n1.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com (n1.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 846C38FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wearabnet@yahoo.ca) Received: from [68.142.230.29] by n1.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 09:16:50 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.82] by t2.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 09:16:50 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.101] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 09:16:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 09:16:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 880034.20141.bm@omp105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 47976 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jan 2009 09:16:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Yj0BsAF0U/RzpYT4cc3XEU3ZC9pYknB1I97zquo/OegRm3DmC3ePeh1KlOddV4Bip3n9Dto6NrllyXTyu87qPa9aX+VjeFxhqAA/jvRKxVVn2jdhGAoVnPcIDEG4JTrNmp/ESi5tkkptzo3qHA5NnrvFdEAyA9m9Sit2VccLXnI=; X-YMail-OSG: ZrCmBLoVM1k0Qb4HHBXXA5Tj3Z2OLNntvb5.3.BUH9o.Zrc4VMHSsfwnzLADueg5KXYQacOX8Xe673lEQ2MCdJJjH0EjtwViUApDmja5iehKSdICq1Yx1BFwFguSQo7MolNeSPZNQTp4C8yVQ3lJ1gyMdlt2UOH1MrmodRPOXwcn14kNM8KVHdTbzqHboZ4B6WJco4KvT66AKsYvvpV_ib9q0oz4gM_v Received: from [212.77.203.38] by web111314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:16:49 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:16:49 -0800 (PST) From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <653439.47832.qm@web111314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:30:46 -0000 ----- Original Message ---- > From: Proskurin Kirill > To: freebsd-questions > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:07:25 PM > Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 > > Hello all. > > What we have: > Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > All latest version from ports. > > > After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no > reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > > We swap RAM - not helps. > We swap chassis - not helps. > I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > > In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > > > Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > > -- Best regards, > Proskurin Kirill I think you should upgrade to FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE at least, if not -STABLE. Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:42:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C637106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025EE8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srv47.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.137]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 10:42:35 +0100 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.188]) by srv47.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:42:35 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:42:35 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0R9gZMF004447; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:42:35 +0100 Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0R9gMNi004422; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:42:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:42:22 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Tom Everett Message-ID: <20090127094222.GB4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <497E3FEE.3020601@khubla.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497E3FEE.3020601@khubla.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2009 09:42:35.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[956A0240:01C98063] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 SMP on IBM x330 Dual Processor server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:42:37 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 03:57:50PM -0700, Tom Everett wrote: > I'm running the "stock" FreeBSD 7.1 kernel on an IBM x330 machine. The > machine has two physical processors but it seems that FreeBSD 7.1 on > sees one. I downloaded the kernel source and it seems that the GENERIC > kernel has SMP installed. Is there something else I can try? Thanks in > advance for your wisdom. Have you already tried to build a kernel for your system using the latest sources, i.e. cvsup-ing the sources and build your own system/kernel (see e.g. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html) HTH -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:45:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5341410657FA for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CE38FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRkVv-0002nE-Jp; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:45:47 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRkVu-0005km-KZ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:45:46 +0000 Message-ID: <497ED7CA.8030204@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:45:46 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <653439.47832.qm@web111314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <653439.47832.qm@web111314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:45:55 -0000 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Proskurin Kirill >> To: freebsd-questions >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:07:25 PM >> Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 >> >> Hello all. >> >> What we have: >> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. >> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). >> All latest version from ports. >> >> >> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no >> reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. >> >> We swap RAM - not helps. >> We swap chassis - not helps. >> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. >> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) >> >> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. >> >> >> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > I think you should upgrade to FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE at least, if not -STABLE. Well - why I must do this? It is was a some problems with 7.0? I don`t want to do this just to do this. Well - if nothing helps may be. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 09:55:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C7F1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from msa.vap.navalradio.cl (smtp.vap.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7358FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [172.18.64.106] ([172.18.64.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa.vap.navalradio.cl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0R9Ybki031098 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:34:38 GMT (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <497ED529.5060603@webanoide.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:34:33 -0300 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:55:33 -0000 Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Hello all. > > What we have: > Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > All latest version from ports. > > > After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day > with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > > We swap RAM - not helps. > We swap chassis - not helps. > I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > > In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > > > Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? Check the fan on the CPU. Probably it's dead or malfunctioning. Also check the heat sink underneath the fan. It could be dirty and blocking the airflow. Regards, Mikhail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:02:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B26D1065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wearabnet@yahoo.ca) Received: from n1.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com (n1.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B2908FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wearabnet@yahoo.ca) Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n1.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 10:02:00 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.82] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 10:02:00 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.102] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 10:02:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 10:02:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 422129.24276.bm@omp106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 75468 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jan 2009 10:02:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=y5+G1ZHTY9dRGlI9QAER7ZuArg2d+qF5Dfqq4ptosPcpmLN/dziUAat0PiWTHM16Lg5AzvpXUp08tM/ilYJwEykH/9pmsaZbUMBBuHYLXFBRxV26e8wxMLVqpW/ghXoJO44YZ044lR5pGZ5E+FYbNju4mGKR3LmqYX+eMMQee9I=; X-YMail-OSG: FlFZrY0VM1m2lz00QtZUn.42twtUBhW_uMLgMIUxEmIu5oii81RiiI1oL8G44XwafNq_jMBiAbp.qcbEp4sINnC6rIEIFOoqNnotUmUImRMY5wvrnF6XRB0w7_ic9yeMbJhON2gcD5tHvxskRaDYZU27to7rqKGC1Xy3BkhrsCWMrKnCLYXyDnWgdxyZbROU4jDPruKT.z2ffp76SUwdMrwMYaGzCFUv Received: from [212.77.203.38] by web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:02:00 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <653439.47832.qm@web111314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <497ED7CA.8030204@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:02:00 -0800 (PST) From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <204332.75237.qm@web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:02:01 -0000 ----- Original Message ---- > From: Proskurin Kirill > To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri ; FreeBSD Questions Mailing List > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:45:46 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 > > Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > >> From: Proskurin Kirill > >> To: freebsd-questions > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:07:25 PM > >> Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 > >> > >> Hello all. > >> > >> What we have: > >> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > >> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > >> All latest version from ports. > >> > >> > >> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no > >> reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > >> > >> We swap RAM - not helps. > >> We swap chassis - not helps. > >> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > >> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > >> > >> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > >> > >> > >> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > > > I think you should upgrade to FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE at least, if not > -STABLE. > > Well - why I must do this? It is was a some problems with 7.0? > I don`t want to do this just to do this. Well - if nothing helps may be. > > -- > Best regards, > Proskurin Kirill Because there are many bugs were in 7.0 and got fixed in 7.1, and maybe you are affected by one of them. Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:11:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E403106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AB78FC20 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7905A8B; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:01:59 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:11:48 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: Mel Message-ID: <20090127101148.GB55540@screwed.box> References: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901251708.14416.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail devfs openpty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:50 -0000 It appeared to work after rule apply unhide. Will find out more. Just how to delete or view the ruleset? Thanks. Seem to get on it. Looks like it's not very obvious. The cure was: === devfs -m /jailpath/dev rule -s 5 add type tty unhide === the unobvious for me was to put -s in the right place. And, I'm still in question how should I delete the ruleset once added for devfs. Thanks all. 2009/01/25 17:08:14 -0900 Mel => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:37:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD71106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80BE8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRlJU-00064b-Mo; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:37:00 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRlJT-000BDz-Pj; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:36:59 +0000 Message-ID: <497EE3CB.1000004@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:36:59 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Goriachev , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497ED529.5060603@webanoide.org> In-Reply-To: <497ED529.5060603@webanoide.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:37:02 -0000 Mikhail Goriachev wrote: > Proskurin Kirill wrote: >> Hello all. >> >> What we have: >> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. >> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). >> All latest version from ports. >> >> >> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day >> with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. >> >> We swap RAM - not helps. >> We swap chassis - not helps. >> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. >> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > Check the fan on the CPU. Probably it's dead or malfunctioning. Also > check the heat sink underneath the fan. It could be dirty and blocking > the airflow. No - fan is work good. It is not a heat problem. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 12:19:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3109C106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joris.lammers.be@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35D08FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joris.lammers.be@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so91563fga.35 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:19:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jh1/8F4GATCu8VQOzMCvveQGSsr3xqu19eWPtiXh4Wc=; b=J8eXCqZmbX/voBpIevBr70+dE+yuzBAAobGEgCE1J3ja17G9+iMLEEd2ZhVVj/oCiF C/Xa9gRB3jm10FfQiu+meyafA1d4hvvTuPQgC7xyRfJk5rGxD5LpgPXRB3gmmGIeJ6dc dzj5Jw+BykE93aiRcvWTWRB2L8sO8vXVr9ePg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=csprykiQ5HlnHzC0P852tuMkmYy/fpx/lRZuVwvCmCtuajG1tvj0rPpXmPG3EHEs/Z COciVyDju0SACs13BOp3yfBllfY+VFJAE9pwvxfiOeLCCd3q5n3ihdyW0UqVTlonN16k rhK3NzADrBDxKYgy9sYm2yfsq5OKF1eDcrI5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.148.13 with SMTP id a13mr371403bko.20.1233056765253; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:46:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: Joris Lammers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ddclient broken after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:19:14 -0000 Hi, Yesterday evening I tried upgrading my ports by using the portupgrade tool. The exact command that I used was: portupgrade -a --batch All but one package failed to build properly. The offending package was git. For some reason it could not find the p5-xyz module while these were properly installed. Not able to get around the problem I finally tried the FORCE_PKG_REGISTER approach after reading about this on the net and in the output of the portupgrade run. This installed git and I thought everything was running fine till today. After rebooting I saw ddclient was no longer able to run. If I check /var/log/messages it complains that it can't load p5-IO-Socket-SSL. I can't get ddclient to work. A "make deinstall; make reinstall" does not work. Currently I am trying "portupgrade -a -f --batch" to try and rebuild every port on my system. What could have been the original problem with git and how can I get out of this nasty situation? My system is running FreeBSD 7.1-p2. Regards, Joris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 12:45:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260021065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE72F8FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKyPfknDDR9Z/2dsb2JhbADKP4VL Received: from event89.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 13:45:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:44:29 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127124429.GA41244@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: portupgrade xorg-server failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:45:13 -0000 When I try to upgrade my xorg-server, it fails with the following error, apparently it is looking for dri_interface.h (and I have /graphics/dri installed). cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../include -I../hw/xfree86/os-support -I../hw/xfree86/os-su pport/bus -I../hw/xfree86/common -I../hw/xfree86/dri -I../hw/xfree86/dri2 -I../mi -DH AVE_DIX_CONFIG_H -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmis sing-declarations -Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing -D_BSD_SOURCE -DHAS_FCHOWN -D HAS_STICKY_DIR_BIT -D_THREAD_SAFE -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE -I/usr/local/include - I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/hal -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I../include -I.. /include -I../Xext -I../composite -I../damageext -I../xfixes -I../Xi -I../mi -I../mie xt/shadow -I../miext/damage -I../render -I../randr -I../fb -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/loca l/include -I/usr/local/include/drm -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/i nclude -I/usr/local/include/drm -I/usr/local/include/X11/dri -DXFree86Server -O2 -fno -strict-aliasing -pipe -MT glxdriswrast.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/glxdriswrast.Tpo -c glxd riswrast.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/glxdriswrast.o glxdriswrast.c:39:39: error: GL/internal/dri_interface.h: No such file or directory In file included from glxdriswrast.c:49: glxdricommon.h:32: error: expected ':', ',', ';', '}' or '__attribute__' before '*' t oken glxdricommon.h:36: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__DRIcoreExtens ion' glxdricommon.h:36: error: expected ';', ',' or ')' before '*' token glxdricommon.h:38: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'sy stemTimeExtension' glxdriswrast.c:64: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before '__DRIscreen' glxdriswrast.c:75: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before '__DRIcontext' glxdriswrast.c:80: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before '__DRIdrawable' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIdrawableDestroy': glxdriswrast.c:92: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token glxdriswrast.c:92: error: 'core' undeclared (first use in this function) What do I need to do to get this solved? Thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 12:45:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0527F1065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from ariqua.hostforweb.net (ariqua.hostforweb.net [64.202.123.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43618FC1D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [84.238.220.62] (port=58722 helo=[10.30.1.106]) by ariqua.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRnJq-00016E-Iu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:45:30 -0600 Message-ID: <497F01E3.9040307@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:45:23 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ariqua.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aboutsupport.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:45:31 -0000 Hi, Try updating to lastest version: BIOS RAID Controller BIOS RAID Controller Firmware Peter Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Hello all. > > What we have: > Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > All latest version from ports. > > > After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day > with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > > We swap RAM - not helps. > We swap chassis - not helps. > I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > > In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > > > Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:10:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9391065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02A38FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8bA41b0090bG4ec58dAyZ1; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:10:58 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8dAx1b00L0Yq9Sc3PdAx3P; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:10:58 +0000 Message-ID: <497F07E8.1050604@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:11:04 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497D7682.10104@comcast.net> <1232964081.41990.7.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1232964081.41990.7.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Updates / Upgrades X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:10:58 -0000 Da Rock wrote: >> > > It can be tricky at first, and I'm not sure about the update-scan > utility you're using. Check out the handbook and just run the directions > from there: > > portsnap fetch > portsnap update (or you can run "portsnap fetch update" in one go) > > then > > freebsd-update fetch > freebsd-update install (or all in one as above) > > then (assuming you've installed portupgrade as you mentioned above) > > portupgrade -a > > then reboot. > > If this doesn't work post back your errors and we can help you debug. If > there are no errors in running these steps then all is good! :) > > If you want to check your programs are up to date then run the portsnap > steps again and run pkg_version -v. The freebsd-update steps will tell > you whether FreeBSD is up to date. > > HTH and good luck. > > > Thanks, I'm going to give this a try today. I had to take some time last night and redo my set up in the tech room. My Wife and I have an entire bedroom we aren't using (3 bedroom house, one spare room for guests, and one we weren't going to use) so we made one room a tech room with all out computers, and other little gadget workshop . After re-arranging some of the monitors and a desktop on my desk, I can now use my BSD test box without neck strain heh. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:15:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B923C106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5404E8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:15:00 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0RDF05A022468; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:15:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:15:00 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, perl@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127131500.GA22386@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2009 13:15:00.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[4228B3B0:01C98081] Cc: Subject: errors on pkg_create for p5-* ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:15:03 -0000 Hello, After installing 7.1R ports (portupgraded) I'm trying to create packages of all the ~1000 installed packages; 8 packages, all belonging to bsdpan-* packages from ports/www/p5-* (exact list below) are giving errors; what could I do? the command has been always 'pkg_create -Rnb xxxxx'; thx matthias bsdpan-URI-1.37: ... tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::Escape.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::Heuristic.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::QueryParam.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::Split.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::URL.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::WithBase.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::data.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::file.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/URI::ldap.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Removing leading '/' from member names tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 bsdpan-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.015: ... tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/Compress::Raw::Zlib.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Removing leading '/' from member names tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 bsdpan-IO-Compress-Base-2.015: ... tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/File::GlobMapper.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Compress::Base.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Uncompress::AnyUncompress.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Uncompress::Base.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Removing leading '/' from member names tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 bsdpan-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.015: ... tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Compress::Deflate.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Compress::Gzip.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Compress::RawDeflate.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Compress::Zip.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Uncompress::AnyInflate.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Uncompress::Gunzip.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Uncompress::Inflate.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Uncompress::RawInflate.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/IO::Uncompress::Unzip.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Removing leading '/' from member names tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 bsdpan-Compress-Zlib-2.015: ... tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/Compress::Zlib.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Removing leading '/' from member names tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 bsdpan-HTML-Tagset-3.20: ... tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::Tagset.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Removing leading '/' from member names tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 bsdpan-HTML-Parser-3.59: ... tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::Entities.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::Filter.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::HeadParser.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::LinkExtor.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::Parser.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::PullParser.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/HTML::TokeParser.3: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Removing leading '/' from member names tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.823: ... tar: Removing leading '/' from member names bsdpan-XML-Parser-2.36: ... tar: Removing leading '/' from member names -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen >From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:17:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C6A10656E0 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939408FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id n0RD3QfP026303; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id n0RD3P1a026298; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:03:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:03:25 -0500 From: Thomas Dickey To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20090127130325.GA15809@saltmine.radix.net> References: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <0B02CEE8-D38A-4D94-B76D-49721BDDACF0@mac.com> <497E41B8.2030203@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <6A32981B-AD8F-4CAA-B1BD-38A06654C69A@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6A32981B-AD8F-4CAA-B1BD-38A06654C69A@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: Svein Halvor Halvorsen , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:17:54 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 03:03:44PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > >Do you have a suggestion to solve the following problem without =20 > >using printf(1): > > > >I have a text file that I want to print in a "box" on a terminal =20 > >from a shell script. Now I've padded the lines with spaces to a =20 > >certain length using printf %-70s and appended the box drawing =20 > >character. Is there another simple way that will work with utf-8? >=20 > My first thought was about dialog(1), but I'm not sure whether that =20 > deals with UTF8 any better...? There's dialog(1) in the FreeBSD tree, and dialog(1) on my website. The latter can work with UTF-8 (if it's built with ncursesw). But that's a little different from printf... --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFJfwXttIqByHxlDocRAgveAJ9r8Jq+7UOjCPYxCxGLNIx9gMaFWwCfeDss h8G6+yjdqTb0gwerChV9Vj0= =oOX3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:27:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A74106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=271add535=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4B18FC20 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=271add535=a@jenisch.at) Received: from srv47.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.137]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 13:58:00 +0100 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.188]) by srv47.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:58:00 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:57:59 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0RCvxgv005516; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:57:59 +0100 Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0RCvxsw005515; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:57:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:57:59 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: ol@adlogic.ru Message-ID: <20090127125759.GC4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20090127084858.GA4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> <1e821f0a8a49d7f24b0933de40da3d6b.squirrel@xeonic.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1e821f0a8a49d7f24b0933de40da3d6b.squirrel@xeonic.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2009 12:57:59.0238 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1633660:01C9807E] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade dies during upgrade of x11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:27:25 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:37:24PM +0300, ol@adlogic.ru wrote: > Ewald, also look at /usr/ports/UPDATING , 20090123 > Hi Oleg, Thanks for the hint. Do you mean "portupgrade -rf libxcb"? I did that before running portupgrade -arR so I assume the problem I'm having is caused by something different... -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:31:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687FA106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EAE8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRo2Q-000Iin-Le; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:31:34 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRo2P-0006hZ-NI; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:31:33 +0000 Message-ID: <497F0CB4.4070700@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:31:32 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F01E3.9040307@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <497F01E3.9040307@aboutsupport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:31:35 -0000 Peter wrote: > Hi, > > Try updating to lastest version: > > BIOS > RAID Controller BIOS > RAID Controller Firmware Do you think it can be a problem? It is possible to test it some how? This host is really far away from me. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:33:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F70106568D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C09E8FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRo4N-000Irj-Rl; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:33:35 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRo4M-0006vQ-TB; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:33:34 +0000 Message-ID: <497F0D2E.5060309@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:33:34 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Toth , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F0BE6.105@queldor.net> In-Reply-To: <497F0BE6.105@queldor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:33:37 -0000 Michael Toth wrote: > Proskurin Kirill wrote: >> Hello all. >> >> What we have: >> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. >> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). >> All latest version from ports. >> >> >> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day >> with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. >> >> We swap RAM - not helps. >> We swap chassis - not helps. >> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. >> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) >> >> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. >> >> >> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? >> > Hi, > Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid controller ? > Hm Port: megarc-1.51 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software Maint: gerrit.beine@gmx.de B-deps: R-deps: WWW: http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ Do you think it can work with Dell controller? -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 13:48:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13575106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41C38FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRoIR-0000mu-7F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:48:13 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRoIL-0006vt-GM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:48:01 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RDm1H0073528 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:48:01 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0RDm0E2073505 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:48:00 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:47:59 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127134759.GA69715@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: X - configure -> No devices to configure. Configuration failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:48:15 -0000 I cannot configure X after recent ports upgrade. I followed the /usr/ports/UPGRADING, but no luck. Compaq Armada 1700 laptop FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 xorg-server-1.5.3_2,1 hal-0.5.11_14 and running X -configure I get #cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Dec 30 17:05:06 GMT 2008 mexas@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARMADA1700 i386 Build Date: 27 January 2009 12:14:17PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jan 27 13:44:22 2009 (II) Loader magic: 0x81bce80 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 4.1 X.Org XInput driver : 2.1 X.Org Server Extension : 1.1 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6 (II) Loader running on freebsd (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0@0:8:0) Chips and Technologies F65555 HiQVPro rev 0, Mem @ 0x40000000/0, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 List of video drivers: chips (II) LoadModule: "chips" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//chips_drv.so (II) Module chips: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.2.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00@00:08:0 No devices to configure. Configuration failed. What's going on? Obviously nothing happened with devices during the ports upgrade. The driver is still chips, so.. I don't get it. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:09:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00D21065698 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.mtoth@queldor.net) Received: from queldor.net (queldor.com [216.164.83.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E62E8FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.mtoth@queldor.net) Received: from c-24-34-183-218.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.34.183.218] helo=[192.168.1.197]) by queldor.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRo70-000F6h-P4; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:36:18 -0600 Message-ID: <497F0DF8.5030507@queldor.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:36:56 -0500 From: Michael Toth User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F0BE6.105@queldor.net> <497F0D2E.5060309@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497F0D2E.5060309@fxclub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Michael Toth Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:09:41 -0000 Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Michael Toth wrote: >> Proskurin Kirill wrote: >>> Hello all. >>> >>> What we have: >>> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. >>> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). >>> All latest version from ports. >>> >>> >>> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day >>> with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. >>> >>> We swap RAM - not helps. >>> We swap chassis - not helps. >>> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. >>> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) >>> >>> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. >>> >>> >>> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? >>> >> Hi, >> Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid controller ? >> > > Hm > > Port: megarc-1.51 > Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc > Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software > Maint: gerrit.beine@gmx.de > B-deps: > R-deps: > WWW: http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ > > Do you think it can work with Dell controller? > I know it works w/ the Dell controllers, I have also had issues with it where it randomly made my machines (all Power Edge 2950 running 7.x) core dump From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:14:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DF31065670; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16D88FC14; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:14:52 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0REEqjX024287; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:14:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:14:52 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Anton Berezin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, perl@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127141452.GA24178@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090127131500.GA22386@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090127135924.GA28672@heechee.tobez.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090127135924.GA28672@heechee.tobez.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2009 14:14:52.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F3F4B10:01C98089] Cc: Subject: Re: errors on pkg_create for p5-* ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:14:54 -0000 El día Tuesday, January 27, 2009 a las 02:59:24PM +0100, Anton Berezin escribió: > Matthias, > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:15:00PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > After installing 7.1R ports (portupgraded) I'm trying to create packages > > of all the ~1000 installed packages; 8 packages, all belonging to > > bsdpan-* packages from ports/www/p5-* (exact list below) are giving > > errors; what could I do? > > Something is very interesting here. If you used ports to install those > modules, there will be no bsdpan packages, there will be p5 packages. > > If you installed modules directly from CPAN, there will be bsdpan packages. > > So before trying to figure out the problem with pkg_create, it would be > useful to figure out how the modules in question were installed, and if the > answer is "directly from CPAN", why the "real" ports were not used for the > task. Your question remembers me what I've posted on January 18 to the kde-freebsd list: > Hello, > > The building of the KDE 3.5.10 master port x11/kde3 fails in > misc/shared-mime-info with: > > # cd /usr/ports/X11/kde3 > # make install BATCH=yes > > .... > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module > is > required for intltool > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > (this is with portsnap fetch+extract and portupgrade) > > I did by hand: > > # perl -MCPAN -e shell > at cpan> prompt type in: > install XML::Parser > > which made it happy; > > is this a known issue? (Cc: maintainer gnome@FreeBSD.org) Well this explains why there is stuff directly from CPAN and why the "real" has not been used; any idea how to avoid this CPAN access? > > Another interesting question is whether a previous version of lang/perl5.8 > (5.8.8) was installed at some point, and whether perl-after-upgrade script > was run after the upgrade to 5.8.9 (as per ports/UPDATING entry). I don't think so that there have been 5.8.8 installed; I installed the base system, portupgraded and went directly to the KDE3 master port which caused the above error; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen >From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:15:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC88D1065672; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: from heechee.tobez.org (heechee.tobez.org [194.255.56.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8045A8FC1B; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: by heechee.tobez.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7661F6D400; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:59:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:59:24 +0100 From: Anton Berezin To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20090127135924.GA28672@heechee.tobez.org> Mail-Followup-To: Anton Berezin , Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, perl@freebsd.org References: <20090127131500.GA22386@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090127131500.GA22386@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Powered-By: FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: perl@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: errors on pkg_create for p5-* ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:15:14 -0000 Matthias, On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:15:00PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > After installing 7.1R ports (portupgraded) I'm trying to create packages > of all the ~1000 installed packages; 8 packages, all belonging to > bsdpan-* packages from ports/www/p5-* (exact list below) are giving > errors; what could I do? Something is very interesting here. If you used ports to install those modules, there will be no bsdpan packages, there will be p5 packages. If you installed modules directly from CPAN, there will be bsdpan packages. So before trying to figure out the problem with pkg_create, it would be useful to figure out how the modules in question were installed, and if the answer is "directly from CPAN", why the "real" ports were not used for the task. Another interesting question is whether a previous version of lang/perl5.8 (5.8.8) was installed at some point, and whether perl-after-upgrade script was run after the upgrade to 5.8.9 (as per ports/UPDATING entry). \Anton. -- There is no beauty in entropy. -- Eliezer Yudkowsky From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:27:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D94C106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001128FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so6895149wfg.7 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:27:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oMBQwh8ZAjJKaGmhk8vcnO/JrGlIYT2+3thHSYXmdUU=; b=t0G1cCqzDgosdo7E8oeiDxaIajjMqo9Tf2Ic2EfE4F3d1JTIAq5bkGVQJit8aim+ye Utj90C9YOLEaefLv51cak9sEWSBERMuGh7OHcUFLZ93fZm4La9apqqNMpJWUSM1vROgv X6IyHpwjQnrTyRiWPY0d7SHSBpuNkLD2gtZxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z9KJkszpDzrjHKnmyw7ZQxqIEz5b+VxTJ+GrEQ8VQtItLA1Or1EpwOlHQjnjCS8q57 gFh8peToEpSA+ZDqpQDogmMml5S5swNYr6Z558S/yoYCE6RcUA1b9lRfRNWOBka9R+nx 8leWkFJlTFY3daVQpUtry1OhpbdQLbRyk+IIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.19 with SMTP id k19mr3140810wfh.31.1233066462607; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:27:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:27:43 -0000 Hi, have you solved the problem yet? I also have libXmu failed to upgrade due to libxcb-xlib.la. Thanks!! TFC On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Da Rock wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 22:04 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 11:22 +1000, Da Rock wrote: >> > Here's another one: >> > >> > /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -D_THREAD_SAFE >> > -I/usr/local/include -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include >> > -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -version-number >> > 2:1:0 -no-undefined -o libXrandr.la -rpath /usr/local/lib Xrandr.lo >> > XrrConfig.lo XrrCrtc.lo XrrMode.lo XrrOutput.lo XrrProperty.lo >> > XrrScreen.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lX11 -L/usr/local/lib -lXext -lXrender >> > -lX11 >> > grep: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory >> > sed: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory >> > libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la' is not a valid libtool >> > archive >> > *** Error code 1 >> > >> > I tried a search myself: ng. >> > I tried to find a config switch for libxcb: ng. >> > >> > Let me know what else you need or what I can do to help here. Obviously >> > other ports are dependent on these and are therefore failing as well. >> > FWIW this is an upgrade using portupgrade. >> >> This is fallout from the libxcb update. xcb-xlib no longer exists, you >> need to update everything that depends on libxcb using your preferred >> method. > > I'd also like to point out that I just rebooted and X died in the > hole... :) Missing rgb files and what not > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:33:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC18D106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48438FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRp0X-000NGL-RK; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:33:41 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRp0W-000EQW-TQ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:33:41 +0000 Message-ID: <497F1B42.4090804@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:33:38 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Toth , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F0BE6.105@queldor.net> <497F0D2E.5060309@fxclub.org> <497F0DF8.5030507@queldor.net> In-Reply-To: <497F0DF8.5030507@queldor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:33:43 -0000 Michael Toth wrote: > > Proskurin Kirill wrote: >> Michael Toth wrote: >>> Proskurin Kirill wrote: >>>> Hello all. >>>> >>>> What we have: >>>> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. >>>> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). >>>> All latest version from ports. >>>> >>>> >>>> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day >>>> with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. >>>> >>>> We swap RAM - not helps. >>>> We swap chassis - not helps. >>>> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. >>>> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) >>>> >>>> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. >>>> >>>> >>>> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? >>>> >>> Hi, >>> Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid controller ? >>> >> Hm >> >> Port: megarc-1.51 >> Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc >> Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software >> Maint: gerrit.beine@gmx.de >> B-deps: >> R-deps: >> WWW: http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ >> >> Do you think it can work with Dell controller? >> > I know it works w/ the Dell controllers, I have also had issues with it > where it randomly made my machines (all Power Edge 2950 running 7.x) > core dump mail# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc mail# make install clean ===> megarc-1.51 is marked as broken: Running megarc seems to cause memory corruption. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc. mail# Hm. Do I really need it? :-) -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:39:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEA8106566B; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: from heechee.tobez.org (heechee.tobez.org [194.255.56.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218338FC19; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: by heechee.tobez.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 528BF6D401; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:39:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:39:31 +0100 From: Anton Berezin To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20090127143931.GB28672@heechee.tobez.org> Mail-Followup-To: Anton Berezin , Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, perl@freebsd.org References: <20090127131500.GA22386@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090127135924.GA28672@heechee.tobez.org> <20090127141452.GA24178@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090127141452.GA24178@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Powered-By: FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: perl@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: errors on pkg_create for p5-* ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:39:33 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 03:14:52PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, January 27, 2009 a las 02:59:24PM +0100, Anton Berezin escribió: > > > Matthias, > > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:15:00PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > After installing 7.1R ports (portupgraded) I'm trying to create packages > > > of all the ~1000 installed packages; 8 packages, all belonging to > > > bsdpan-* packages from ports/www/p5-* (exact list below) are giving > > > errors; what could I do? > > > > Something is very interesting here. If you used ports to install those > > modules, there will be no bsdpan packages, there will be p5 packages. > > > > If you installed modules directly from CPAN, there will be bsdpan packages. > > > > So before trying to figure out the problem with pkg_create, it would be > > useful to figure out how the modules in question were installed, and if the > > answer is "directly from CPAN", why the "real" ports were not used for the > > task. > > Your question remembers me what I've posted on January 18 to the > kde-freebsd list: > > > Hello, > > > > The building of the KDE 3.5.10 master port x11/kde3 fails in > > misc/shared-mime-info with: > > > > # cd /usr/ports/X11/kde3 > > # make install BATCH=yes > > > > .... > > checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl > > checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module > > is > > required for intltool > > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > > > (this is with portsnap fetch+extract and portupgrade) > > > > I did by hand: > > > > # perl -MCPAN -e shell > > at cpan> prompt type in: > > install XML::Parser > > > > which made it happy; > > > > is this a known issue? (Cc: maintainer gnome@FreeBSD.org) > Well this explains why there is stuff directly from CPAN and why the > "real" has not been used; > any idea how to avoid this CPAN access? Well, there is a textproc/p5-XML-Parser port. It should be a dependency of the relevant port required by X11/kde3 (it is not entirely clear from your mail which particular port has failed its configuration change, the "...." above might have contained some useful information). At any rate, this must be fixed unless it was fixed already. I would not know without knowing what port has failed. As for the immediate problem at hand, could you send me (privately, there is no reason to involve that many lists) the output of ls -l /var/db/pkg As well as cat /var/db/pkg/bsdpan-URI*/+CONTENTS As well as ls -l /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3/ As well as cat /etc/make.conf As well as cat /etc/manpath.config That should get us started. In theory modules installed directly from CPAN should have their files registered correctly with the package system. It would be very interesting to find out what went wrong. If you don't care about finding out what went wrong and why, and you are sure that the only thing you installed directly from CPAN is XML-Parser (with its dependencies), then an easy way out is to rm -rf /var/db/pkg/bsdpan* and to go to /usr/ports/textproc/p5-XML-Parser and make install clean that. In this case you would not care about creating packages from bsdpan-* things, and you should be in the clear when you create packages from p5-* things. :-) > > Another interesting question is whether a previous version of lang/perl5.8 > > (5.8.8) was installed at some point, and whether perl-after-upgrade script > > was run after the upgrade to 5.8.9 (as per ports/UPDATING entry). > > I don't think so that there have been 5.8.8 installed; I installed the > base system, portupgraded and went directly to the KDE3 master port > which caused the above error; Ok. Cheers, \Anton. -- There is no beauty in entropy. -- Eliezer Yudkowsky From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:55:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA08E1065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from netuno.levier.com.br (netuno.levier.com.br [201.47.3.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEE88FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from oldnetuno.levier.com.br (oldnetuno [192.168.32.12]) by netuno.levier.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0REtaOI002732; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:55:37 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from levier.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oldnetuno.levier.com.br (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0RB105Y028208; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:55:36 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (levier.com.br) Received: from [201.21.175.251] (authenticated as k1) by levier.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 27 Jan 2009 14:55:36 -0000 From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Tsu-Fan Cheng , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:47:43 -0200 Message-Id: <1233067663.18867.13.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:55:41 -0000 Em Ter, 2009-01-27 às 09:27 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu: > Hi, > have you solved the problem yet? I also have libXmu failed to > upgrade due to libxcb-xlib.la. Thanks!! I removed every instance of libxb-xlib.la from /usr/local/lib/*.la than it all works again a shell script like: ========================== #!/bin/sh lista=`find /usr/local/lib -type f -name "*.la"` if [ -n "$lista" ] then for i in $lista do if grep $1 $i > /dev/null then sed -i "" "s|/usr/local/lib/$1||" $lista fi done fi ================================ supose you name this shell -> XX than..... sh XX libxcb-xlib.la will do the trick.... after that, you will be able to build things again. Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:58:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E2B106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1252D8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 X-RZG-AUTH: :LWgJfE6Id/4Sm/WkdV0gEbKL+/p/UjmosA/b4BPf1Ida/LA6f2WjvdsA Received: from athena.laverenz.de (77-22-194-90-dynip.superkabel.de [77.22.194.90]) by post.strato.de (fruni mo20) (RZmta 18.13) with ESMTP id z0672fl0RECdqp for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:58:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A610127BE3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:58:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14298-03 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:58:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id A943761409; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:58:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:58:20 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127145820.GA6753@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: ddclient broken after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:58:58 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:46:05PM +0100, Joris Lammers wrote: > I can't get ddclient to work. A "make deinstall; make reinstall" does not > work. Currently I am trying "portupgrade -a -f --batch" to try and rebuild > every port on my system. > > What could have been the original problem with git and how can I get out of > this nasty situation? Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING before starting portupgrade? As ddclient depends on several perl-modules I guess you didn't run "perl-after-upgrade -f" after upgrading perl. Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 15:36:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9F8106567E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECCD8FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090127153651.IGZN4789.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@haran.polands.org>; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:36:51 +0000 Received: from eden.polands.org (pccardwifi0.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RFaoUc050265; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:36:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <497F2A12.30109@polands.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:36:50 -0600 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090106) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <200901260921.55827.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090127013934.GA12318@polands.org> <200901261731.18637.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901261731.18637.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sharing ports hierarchy via NFS to different arch/versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:36:54 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Monday 26 January 2009 16:39:35 Doug Poland wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 09:21:55AM -0900, Mel wrote: >>> On Monday 26 January 2009 08:23:13 Doug Poland wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:25:37AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: >>>>> perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>>>>>>> I've got a network running different versions of FreeBSD (6.3, >>>>>>>> 7.0) on different architectures (i386, SPARC64). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is export the ports hierarchy to all >>>>>>>> machines, but preserving ports/packages for each >>>>>>>> version/architecture. I also want to make rebuilding indexes >>>>>>>> run as fast as possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right now, I simply exports(5) /usr/ports via NFSv3 ... >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>>> The following 2 lines on each machine in /etc/make.conf should >>>>>>> fix those problems: >>>>>>> PACKAGES=${PORTSDIR}/packages/${ARCH} >>>>>>> INDEXFILE=INDEX-${ARCH}-${OSVERSION:C/([0-9]).*/\1/} >>>> It would seem the package building tools (make package, portinstall >>>> -p) do not honor the PACKAGES setting in /etc/make.conf. The >>>> package is simply deposited in /usr/ports/{category}/{pkgname}. Is >>>> there a way to force the package builder to use this knob? >>> make package respects it. >> Curious... I tested it on two different machines, and make package did >> not put the package in the expected location. Perhaps I'm missing >> something? > > Ah, my bad: > Mk/bsd.port.mk: > do-package: ${TMPPLIST} > @if [ -d ${PACKAGES} ]; then \ > > $PACKAGES has to be created before it respected. > Ah ha! Thanks for that info, and the reference to Mk/bsd.port.mk -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 15:38:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F1D1065711 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 109398FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Jan 2009 15:38:26 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO bobcat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 27 Jan 2009 16:38:26 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/CxvIDeeLCuphuv0TcnI4OzYQHLLsK96sFHz8PDZ MNQA3VCwKbFF6g Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:38:25 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090127163825.a0461b3f.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Subject: Keyboard-beep on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:38:29 -0000 Hi List, a short question: Is there an easy way to get a keyboard-beep (each letter beeping when you type, like an old terminal)? Maybe there is some straight forward settings - before I start to experiment.. Thank you! herbs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 15:41:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4AC106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365BD8FC26 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0RFfPn7039400; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:41:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:41:25 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Sebastian Mellmann In-Reply-To: <38577.130.149.220.164.1232964978.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> Message-ID: <20090127031304.Y86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090122120027.4E186106570D@hub.freebsd.org> <20090125153358.X90458@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <38577.130.149.220.164.1232964978.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:41:30 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Sebastian Mellmann wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:10:09 +0100 (CET) > > > > > > So far I've got those rules: > > > > > > in_if="em0" > > > out_if="em1" > > > management_if="em2" > > > in_ip="100.100.100.1" > > > out_ip="200.200.200.1" > > > management_ip="172.16.0.201" > > > client1_subnet="192.168.5.0/26" > > > client2_subnet="192.168.6.0/26" > > > server_subnet="192.168.7.0/24" > > > > > > download_bandwidth="6144Kbit/s" > > > upload_bandwidth="1024Kbit/s" > > > delay="0" > > > queue_size="10" > > > > 10 slots ie packets is likely too small a queue size at these rates. > > You want to check the dropped packet stats from 'ipfw pipe show' re > > that; see the section in ipfw(8) about calculating sizes / delays. > > > > I had a look at the ipfw howto on the freebsd site [1], but I'm not 100% > sure how to choose a "good" value for the queue size. Neither am I :) but I'm using some values that seem to work ok. Well actually, on checking since we went from 1500/256kbps to 8192/384k, I might play a bit more, noticing 0.6% or so drops on a couple of pipes. > [1] http://www.freebsd-howto.com/HOWTO/Ipfw-HOWTO That's a very good ipfw tutorial, given parts of it are a bit outdated (FreeBSD 4.x) but it covers a lot of useful background. I just skimmed lots of it now but nothing I read jarred, unlike the Handbook section. > If I choose the default (50 packets) it means that it takes approx. 100ms > (600kbits / 6144kbits) to fill the queue. > So the question is: Which value to choose for the queue? It's going to depend on lots of things, your workload, upstream push .. you could start with more like the default and adjust as necessary? > > I suggest using 'in recv' and 'out xmit' rather than via for these, for > > the sake of clarity. 'in recv' and 'in via' come to the same thing, as > > only the receive interface is known on inbound packets, but 'out via' > > applies to packets that were *received* on the specified interface as > > well as those going out on that interface after routing, which can lead > > to surprising results sometimes, and being more specific never hurts .. > > Thanks for the hint. > I'll change that. Also, I'd take both that howto's and ipfw(8)'s advice about your faster inside pipe, and use one pipe per flow/direction (ie full duplex). > > > But when I have a look at the pipes with 'ipfw show' I can only see > > > packets go through the pipe 50 and nothing goes through the other pipes > > > (which makes sense actually since IPFW work that way?). > > > > IPFW works that way if you (likely) have net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 .. so > > that packets exiting from pipes aren't seen by the firewall again. If > > you set one_pass=0, packets are reinjected into the firewall at the rule > > following the pipe (or queue) action, which is what you want to do here. > > Actually this is also described in the manpage of ipfw(8). > Shame on me ;-) As penance, read 7 times before sleeping with it under your pillow :) > > And you'll surely need a much larger queue for this pipe, at 100Mbit/s. > > As already asked above: > > How do I know the queue is large or small enough for my needs? I'm never sure, so tend to experiment. How fast your hardware is and kern.hz setting could be significant factors, as could be TCP/UDP mix and other factors I know little about. Reducing reported packet drops is about all I've used for a guide so far. This one is a FreeBSd 4.8 box, a 2.4GHz P4 doing little but being a filtering bridge between a 8192/384kbps ADSL link and nests of mostly XP boxes in 3 LAN groups: !ipfw pipe show | egrep 'tcp|bit' 00010: 256.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 30 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail 0 tcp 192.168.0.23/1043 207.46.17.61/80 7196387 2897628161 0 0 9706 00020: 5.120 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail 0 tcp 207.46.17.61/80 192.168.0.23/1043 9977802 12858014698 0 0 63260 00040: 96.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 20 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail 0 tcp 192.168.0.45/1037 66.249.89.147/443 2315107 299340364 0 0 2086 00050: 1.536 Mbit/s 0 ms 40 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail 0 tcp 66.249.89.147/443 192.168.0.45/1037 3279021 3802388928 0 0 22433 00060: 192.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 30 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail 0 tcp 192.168.0.64/1032 207.46.106.36/1863 1847947 563209421 0 0 141 00070: 3.072 Mbit/s 0 ms 40 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail 0 tcp 207.46.106.36/1863 192.168.0.64/1032 2438211 3075075035 0 0 4550 It's nearly all streaming rather than more interactive traffic, so pipe latency isn't so much of a concern. Anyway, I rarely actually catch any traffic still in-queue, which you can stare at for tuning. Also, that's aggregate traffic, not per IP as with your masks (which look maybe wider than necessary, 0x0000ffff covers a /16) so you may wind up with lots of separate queues sharing a pipe, which may look very different. How many hosts, how much memory to spare for each? HTH, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 15:54:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182B2106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34B8FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0RFrEtO091740; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:53:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n0RFrEJt091739; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:53:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:53:14 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Vladislav Sekulic Message-ID: <20090127155314.GC91587@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090126220411.b9c04ypy0wo04wkk@webmail.utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090126220411.b9c04ypy0wo04wkk@webmail.utoronto.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding partitions to gmirror device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:54:27 -0000 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:04:11PM -0500, Vladislav Sekulic wrote: > Hi! > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on a couple of Sun X2100 servers, each > with 2X 250GB SATA drives that I've established a gmirror(8) over, > following the instructions in section 19.4 of the Handbook. > > Now, one of the machines, being transformed into a webserver, needs a > separate, newly created /var/www partition (its current partitions > only take up 27G of the total ~238G available). > > My dilemma is -- how do I add another partition without hosing the > system? It seems to me that there is no other way than to destroy the > gmirror, create the new partition, then re-create the gmirror. The > issue is how to proceed in a safe manner, without destroying any data > or causing undue hassle (time is of the essence, as always). > > My draft plan is as follows, with ad4 and ad6 being the component drives: > > $ sudo gmirror deactivate gm0 /dev/ad6 > $ sudo gmirror deactivate gm0 /dev/ad4 > $ sudo gmirror remove gm0 /dev/ad6 > $ sudo gmirror remove gm0 /dev/ad4 > > I believe this would result in all metadata associated with the > gmirror to be wiped, and hence the gmirror to be destroyed, based on > my potentially faulty reading of the manpage. > > Then edit fstab to restore the ``/dev/mirror/gm0s1?'' entries to their > corresponding ``/dev/ad4s1?'' entries & reboot. > > Afterwards, would run ``bsdlabel -e ad4'', then newfs, and finally, > redo the gmirror sequence (following the steps in section 19.4 of the > handbook, as before). > > Am I missing any critical steps here, or have any redundant steps? Or > just not getting it? I may be confused here, but I think you are making too many steps rather than missing some. But, partly my problem is that I do not have the whole picture of what you have currently set up. First of all, you say that you have allocated 27GB of 238GB available. Is that 238GB in the existing slice - gm0s1 or is it outside of that slice? (NOTE, the 's' in the device name stands for slice - so it is slice 1 of a possible 4). It could be helpful if you posted you /etc/fstab file and also what is printed if you do: bsdlabel gm0s1 or, if it is what they call 'dangerously dedicated' do: bsdlabel gm0 If it is all in that gmos1 slice, then just use bsdlabel on that slice to add the rest to another partition within that slice. Just boot from something other than that mirror, make sure nothing in gm0 is mounted and then do: bsdlabel -e gm0s1 and fix it up as needed. If you are getting the terminology mixed and it is not in that slice, it depends on how you want your disk built. If there is no slice and it is what some call 'dangerously dedicated', then run bsdlabel on gm0 rather than gm0s1 (eg bsdlabel -e gm0). >From your comments above, it sounds like you have made a slice on it. But, seeing fstab and the output of bsdlabel would help figure it out. ////jerry > > Thank you for any pointers! > > Vlad > > P.S. Is it possible to operate directly on the gm0 device, i.e., to > create a partition using it rather than destroying the entire gmirror? > > -- > Vladislav Sekulic > Research Computing System Administrator > Systems and Networks Research Group > Dept. of Computer Science, University of Toronto > http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~pocsys > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 15:57:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69D31065716 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F438FC1C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from anubis.getmyip.com (anubis.getmyip.com [78.46.33.178]) by mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B09470015D8; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:57:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from 62.206.221.107 (SquirrelMail authenticated user smellmann) by anubis.getmyip.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:57:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <58305.62.206.221.107.1233071856.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:57:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Sebastian Mellmann" To: "Ian Smith" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:57:39 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > That's a very good ipfw tutorial, given parts of it are a bit outdated > (FreeBSD 4.x) but it covers a lot of useful background. I just skimmed > lots of it now but nothing I read jarred, unlike the Handbook section. > > > If I choose the default (50 packets) it means that it takes approx. > 100ms > > (600kbits / 6144kbits) to fill the queue. > > So the question is: Which value to choose for the queue? > > It's going to depend on lots of things, your workload, upstream push .. > you could start with more like the default and adjust as necessary? Sounds like a good idea. I'll just start with the default and see if works in my setup. > > > And you'll surely need a much larger queue for this pipe, at > 100Mbit/s. > > > > As already asked above: > > > > How do I know the queue is large or small enough for my needs? > > I'm never sure, so tend to experiment. How fast your hardware is and > kern.hz setting could be significant factors, as could be TCP/UDP mix > and other factors I know little about. Reducing reported packet drops > is about all I've used for a guide so far. This one is a FreeBSd 4.8 > box, a 2.4GHz P4 doing little but being a filtering bridge between a > 8192/384kbps ADSL link and nests of mostly XP boxes in 3 LAN groups: > > !ipfw pipe show | egrep 'tcp|bit' > 00010: 256.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 30 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > 0 tcp 192.168.0.23/1043 207.46.17.61/80 7196387 2897628161 0 > 0 9706 > 00020: 5.120 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > 0 tcp 207.46.17.61/80 192.168.0.23/1043 9977802 12858014698 > 0 0 63260 > > 00040: 96.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 20 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > 0 tcp 192.168.0.45/1037 66.249.89.147/443 2315107 299340364 0 > 0 2086 > 00050: 1.536 Mbit/s 0 ms 40 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > 0 tcp 66.249.89.147/443 192.168.0.45/1037 3279021 3802388928 0 > 0 22433 > > 00060: 192.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 30 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > 0 tcp 192.168.0.64/1032 207.46.106.36/1863 1847947 563209421 0 > 0 141 > 00070: 3.072 Mbit/s 0 ms 40 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > 0 tcp 207.46.106.36/1863 192.168.0.64/1032 2438211 3075075035 0 > 0 4550 > > It's nearly all streaming rather than more interactive traffic, so > pipe latency isn't so much of a concern. Anyway, I rarely actually > catch any traffic still in-queue, which you can stare at for tuning. > > Also, that's aggregate traffic, not per IP as with your masks (which > look maybe wider than necessary, 0x0000ffff covers a /16) so you may > wind up with lots of separate queues sharing a pipe, which may look > very different. How many hosts, how much memory to spare for each? Is there any chance to get the dropped packets for _each_ queue (e.g. logged to a file for further investigation)? Does ipfw provide something here? I'm mainly doing experiments with different kinds of settings (bandwidth limitations, variable delay, dropped packets probability etcpp.) and I want to see how many packets are actually dropped by ipfw. > HTH, Ian Regards and thanks for the help so far, Sebastian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:03:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED238106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oli@devsoft.com) Received: from hermes.devsoft.com (hermes.devsoft.com [88.217.203.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE44A8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oli@devsoft.com) Received: by hermes.devsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 302) id 811F310E5DC; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:45:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:45:36 +0100 From: Oliver Adler To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090127154536.GA17046@hermes.devsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD hermes.devsoft.com 6.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p4 Cc: Subject: Quad Ethernet PCI Card ZNYX ZX346Q is supported X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:54 -0000 Hello, because I'm just building a firewall based on FreeBSD 7.1 I was looking around for a quad port NIC. I got a ZNYX ZX346Q and tested it. It seems to work (I did not yet stress testing). The only problem with the card is, that it doesn't support media autoselect. The media has to be specified with the ifconfig media option. I got the clue for this from http://www.znyx.com/support/drivers/ZX346Q_drivers.htm If there is some more testing necessary to add this card to the list of supported hardware, please give me a note. Thank you for providing FreeBSD. Oliver -- Oliver Adler eMail : buddy@a999.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:04:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2E41065679 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mail.khubla.com (gateway.khubla.com [66.18.197.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F948FC25 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from [192.168.128.143] ([192.168.128.143]) (authenticated user tom@khubla.com) by mail.khubla.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:03:44 -0700 Message-ID: <497F2EEC.9090305@khubla.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:57:32 -0700 From: Tom Everett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <497E3FEE.3020601@khubla.com> <20090127094222.GB4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20090127094222.GB4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 SMP on IBM x330 Dual Processor server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:10 -0000 How does the kernel I would build from that link differ from the stock 7.1 kernel? Ewald Jenisch wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 03:57:50PM -0700, Tom Everett wrote: > >> I'm running the "stock" FreeBSD 7.1 kernel on an IBM x330 machine. The >> machine has two physical processors but it seems that FreeBSD 7.1 on >> sees one. I downloaded the kernel source and it seems that the GENERIC >> kernel has SMP installed. Is there something else I can try? Thanks in >> advance for your wisdom. >> > > Have you already tried to build a kernel for your system using the > latest sources, i.e. cvsup-ing the sources and build your own > system/kernel (see e.g. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html) > > HTH > -ewald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:04:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A931065697 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4978FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so2803935ewy.19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:04:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EDB85WS9mrmCTaA1BEjHPxdri32IkzN1wLU+ljC7sGQ=; b=D355LM1fBKZlzvsHCfwmJq35lE2+dbbiYVfSyFEz/KNGe74XrezyIOW5sgEpYEcNr6 4lNRIjC07V4507vKeTTYwDfCE+7SIursJK2P1/noILlUrg1j2swK+b46UNakYY0H3hzz TQun9AWFctUXx5SYrNZ1+UtfGWnSuJWVWqbXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PMVV6Jie6vdPmD2I+fqLv7D6wxjIMUrgZpj8omx2WlwycDLMF3ie2r3KalLJZt8CDJ KLvq5C25ABSl6ce+U7Xa8p9bf6RLrbfSdukpu1N9vruaiJsszGy5tYutzrCULPSnVkyv fJ7CUfWyqTRlxIYGRd5B0yKjFReKub016esEE= Received: by 10.210.28.4 with SMTP id b4mr1962798ebb.120.1233072279372; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm31068454ikz.13.2009.01.27.08.04.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:04:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:34 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:43 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > I'm also ashamed that they released it in a hurry to compete in this > condition to a very sceptical Window$ crowd. People have to use KDE4 in significant numbers for it to mature. The real problem was not that they released it, but that Linux distributions rushed to make it the default version, or in some cases the only version, in their packaging systems. From what I've read, many people in the KDE4 project were not happy about this. If most distributions had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default, or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete. BTW, I don't think it's really fair to suggest that KDE4 is trying to ape Vista, it looks to me as if the've both just borrowed a lot from OS-X, A lot of the other stuff in KDE4, has been under development for a long-time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:32:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657901065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C4A8FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB1CAFC1FE; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:32:58 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:32:57 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497ED7CA.8030204@fxclub.org> <204332.75237.qm@web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <204332.75237.qm@web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901270732.57972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Proskurin Kirill , Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:32:59 -0000 On Tuesday 27 January 2009 01:02:00 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > Because there are many bugs were in 7.0 and got fixed in 7.1, and maybe you > are affected by one of them. Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any better. At the very least, we should find out if the OS is at fault at all. For Proskurin: Find out if the machine reboots, because of a kernel panic and if so try to get a kernel crash dump [1]. If it does not panic, you're 90% sure it's a hardware issue. The remaining 10% is left for the case where FreeBSD does not configure hardware correctly through ACPI, causing hardware to operate badly. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:34:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C143F10656C3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702C38FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 11:34:20 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PLM24240; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 11:33:55 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18815.14194.856095.406776@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:33:54 -0500 To: Oliver Adler In-Reply-To: <20090127154536.GA17046@hermes.devsoft.com> References: <20090127154536.GA17046@hermes.devsoft.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Quad Ethernet PCI Card ZNYX ZX346Q is supported X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:21 -0000 Oliver Adler writes: > because I'm just building a firewall based on FreeBSD 7.1 I > was looking around for a quad port NIC. I got a ZNYX ZX346Q > and tested it. It seems to work (I did not yet stress > testing). The only problem with the card is, that it doesn't > support media autoselect. The media has to be specified with > the ifconfig media option. I got the clue for this from > http://www.znyx.com/support/drivers/ZX346Q_drivers.htm > > If there is some more testing necessary to add this card to > the list of supported hardware, please give me a note. If you mean "is there a driver for the card?", try de(4). If you mean "will someone please media auto-select?" ... I'm confused. If the hardware doesn't support it (and my ZX345s didn't) how can the driver? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:35:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A53106568B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mail.khubla.com (gateway.khubla.com [66.18.197.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9CF8FC1F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from [192.168.128.143] ([192.168.128.143]) (authenticated user tom@khubla.com) by mail.khubla.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:35:44 -0700 Message-ID: <497F3663.8080203@khubla.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:29:23 -0700 From: Tom Everett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <497E3FEE.3020601@khubla.com> <20090127094222.GB4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20090127094222.GB4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 SMP on IBM x330 Dual Processor server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:35:54 -0000 Am I correct in my understanding that the "stock" kernel is GENERIC? Ewald Jenisch wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 03:57:50PM -0700, Tom Everett wrote: > >> I'm running the "stock" FreeBSD 7.1 kernel on an IBM x330 machine. The >> machine has two physical processors but it seems that FreeBSD 7.1 on >> sees one. I downloaded the kernel source and it seems that the GENERIC >> kernel has SMP installed. Is there something else I can try? Thanks in >> advance for your wisdom. >> > > Have you already tried to build a kernel for your system using the > latest sources, i.e. cvsup-ing the sources and build your own > system/kernel (see e.g. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html) > > HTH > -ewald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:44:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8561065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB4D8FC1A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54686AFC1FE; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:44:16 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:44:15 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> In-Reply-To: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901270744.16043.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Subject: Re: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:44:17 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 12:58:06 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > As far as I can see, printf is not calculating strings lengths correctly > when using utf-8 encoding. Either that, or I'm using byte count, and > can't find the character count :-/ > > Eg: > > $ printf "|%-10s|" "=E6=F8=E5" > > |=E6=F8=E5 | > > $ printf "|%-10s|" "123" > > |123 | > > I'm on 7.1-p2 Does this work on an xterm (or anything else then the FreeBSD console) with= =20 correct LANG variable set? The FreeBSD console does not work with utf-8 (yet), allthough I would not=20 think it should affect printf's character counting, still.....it haunts me. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:52:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1341065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A188B8FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RGqVuR018025; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RGqVOe018022; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: RW In-Reply-To: <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:52:43 -0000 > had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default, > or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have > been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive > attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete. it's not OSS problem but general problem with all software. this problem started with commercial software some years ago because PEOPLE WANTED THIS. they wanted to have top-end rubbish as most of poeple don't do anything more on their computer than starting few simple programs and a web browser, but wanted to stay "ahead". That's why both windoze and KDE (and lots of others) software is such a crap. But it's very simple solution for that for everyone slightly smarter than idiot. Simply DON'T use them. You can do all things with non-"trendy" unix programs, and with "archaic" unix way of computing. for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you use. that's all. the wistles are not needed for work. Actually it makes work harder and much less efficient. You don't need "desktop features", you jest need programs that do what you need, and run them. Leave all this colorful whistles to average monkey. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:54:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB7610656BE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B4D8FC13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RGshLB018036; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:54:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RGshKn018033; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:54:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:54:43 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Oliver Adler In-Reply-To: <20090127154536.GA17046@hermes.devsoft.com> Message-ID: <20090127175251.T18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090127154536.GA17046@hermes.devsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quad Ethernet PCI Card ZNYX ZX346Q is supported X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:54:57 -0000 > and tested it. It seems to work (I did not yet stress > testing). The only problem with the card is, that it doesn't > support media autoselect. The media has to be specified with is it Digital DecChip based? i have similar one (not znyx) ahd have similar problem but not the same. looks like PHY is not supported, so it works in default mode. i can set media manually but it doesn't work i can leave automatic detection, and it works but with not all endpoints. with one - i ended adding cheap 5-port switch in between. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:56:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE351065792 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E413C8FC25 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0F4AFC1FE; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:56:24 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:56:23 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497E3FEE.3020601@khubla.com> <20090127094222.GB4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> <497F2EEC.9090305@khubla.com> In-Reply-To: <497F2EEC.9090305@khubla.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901270756.24072.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Tom Everett , Ewald Jenisch Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 SMP on IBM x330 Dual Processor server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:25 -0000 On Tuesday 27 January 2009 06:57:32 Tom Everett wrote: > How does the kernel I would build from that link differ from the stock > 7.1 kernel? It doesn't. It's the generic "upgrading fixes all" advice. I don't see anything since 7.1-RELEASE in 7.1-STABLE even, that would have the potential to fix your problem. Best thing you can do: 0) Check BIOS if there's something there that can make a CPU 'invisible'. 1) subscribe to freebsd-acpi and ask there if people have seen this before. 2) recompile kernel for acpi debugging, so you have information ready when people ask for it 3) regardless of the 1), search for or file a new PR with your ACPI information. More info here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/acpi-debug.html http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 17:00:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EAC1065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mail.khubla.com (gateway.khubla.com [66.18.197.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996078FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from [192.168.128.143] ([192.168.128.143]) (authenticated user tom@khubla.com) by mail.khubla.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:00:25 -0700 Message-ID: <497F3C2C.3000304@khubla.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:54:04 -0700 From: Tom Everett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <497E3FEE.3020601@khubla.com> <20090127094222.GB4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> <497F2EEC.9090305@khubla.com> <200901270756.24072.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901270756.24072.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ewald Jenisch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 SMP on IBM x330 Dual Processor server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:00:45 -0000 Thanks! Mel wrote: > On Tuesday 27 January 2009 06:57:32 Tom Everett wrote: > >> How does the kernel I would build from that link differ from the stock >> 7.1 kernel? >> > > It doesn't. It's the generic "upgrading fixes all" advice. > I don't see anything since 7.1-RELEASE in 7.1-STABLE even, that would have the > potential to fix your problem. > > Best thing you can do: > 0) Check BIOS if there's something there that can make a CPU 'invisible'. > 1) subscribe to freebsd-acpi and ask there if people have seen this before. > 2) recompile kernel for acpi debugging, so you have information ready when > people ask for it > 3) regardless of the 1), search for or file a new PR with your ACPI > information. > > More info here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/acpi-debug.html > http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 17:13:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4788106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6489A8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RHDcWv018116; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:13:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RHDcgN018113; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:13:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:13:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: herbert langhans In-Reply-To: <20090127163825.a0461b3f.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20090127181332.F18112@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090127163825.a0461b3f.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyboard-beep on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:13:48 -0000 man kbdcontrol :) On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, herbert langhans wrote: > Hi List, > a short question: Is there an easy way to get a keyboard-beep (each letter beeping when you type, like an old terminal)? > > Maybe there is some straight forward settings - before I start to experiment.. > > Thank you! > herbs > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 17:27:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCF81065674 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9C38FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRrih-0005N0-8m; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:27 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n0RHRPe7010752; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:26 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4ED7FFCA6A0; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:20 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:20 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Ewald Jenisch Message-ID: <20090127172720.GA11026@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Ewald Jenisch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090127084858.GA4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090127084858.GA4036@aurora.oekb.co.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:27 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade dies during upgrade of x11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:33 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > > Hi, > > During an upgrade of my ports involving x11 portupgrade dies (FreeBSD > 7.1, AMD64) > > > > Here's what I did: After cvsup, make fetchindex, I did a pkgdb -F and > then portupgrade -rf libxcb as per UPDATING of 20090123. > > Next I did a pkgdb -F again, which complained about obsoleted packages > while at the same time telling me that they're still needed, so I > didn'd de-install them: > > # pkgdb -F > ---> Checking the package registry database > Stale origin: 'x11/xorg-protos': perhaps moved or obsoleted. > -> The port 'x11/xorg-protos' was removed on 2009-01-23 because: > "Not really necessary" > -> Hint: xorg-protos-7.3_2 is required by the following package(s): > xorg-7.3_2 > -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... > -> No files installed by xorg-protos-7.3_2 have been overwritten by other packages. > Deinstall xorg-protos-7.3_2 ? [no] > Stale origin: 'x11/xphelloworld': perhaps moved or obsoleted. > -> The port 'x11/xphelloworld' was removed on 2009-01-24 because: > "Xprint application, deprecated upstream" > -> Hint: xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 is required by the following package(s): > xorg-7.3_2 > xorg-apps-7.3 > -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... > -> No files installed by xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 have been overwritten by other packages. > Deinstall xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 ? [no] > Duplicated origin: delete - xorg-protos-7.3_2 xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 > Unregister any of them? [no] > Stale dependency: xorg-7.3_2 -> add (x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome): > Fixed. (-> xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.903) > Stale dependency: xorg-7.3_2 -> xinput-1.4.0 (x11/xinput): > xinit-1.1.1 (score:18%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] > Install stale dependency? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] a > [Gathering depends for x11/xinput ................................................................. done] > ---> Installing 'xinput-1.4.0' from a port (x11/xinput) > ---> Building '/usr/ports/x11/xinput' > . > . > . > ===> Compressing manual pages for xinput-1.4.0 > ===> Registering installation for xinput-1.4.0 > ===> Cleaning for xinput-1.4.0 > Fixed. (-> xinput-1.4.0) > Stale dependency: xorg-apps-7.3 -> xinput-1.4.0 (x11/xinput): > xinput-1.4.0 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] a > Fixed. (-> xinput-1.4.0) > # > > > > After that I started portupgrade -arR which died in the following way: > > # portupgrade -arR > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga: > is marked as broken: Needs to be removed > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-via: > requires pciVideoPtr typedef > ** Port directory not found: x11/xorg-protos > ** Port directory not found: x11/xphelloworld > ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg-apps' (xorg-apps-7.3) because a requisite package 'xphelloworld-1.0.1_1' (x11/xphelloworld) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'x11-drivers/xorg-drivers' (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) because a requisite package 'xf86-video-vga-4.1.0_2' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg' (xorg-7.3_2) because a requisite package 'xorg-apps-7.3' (x11/xorg-apps) failed (specify -k to force) > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga (marked as IGNORE) > - x11-drivers/xf86-video-via (marked as IGNORE) > - x11/xorg-protos (port directory error) > - x11/xphelloworld (port directory error) > * x11/xorg-apps (xorg-apps-7.3) > * x11-drivers/xorg-drivers (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) > * x11/xorg (xorg-7.3_2) > # > > > I've also tried to uninstall x11/xorg-protos during pkgdb -F which > also died: > > # pkgdb -F > ---> Checking the package registry database > Stale origin: 'x11/xorg-protos': perhaps moved or obsoleted. > -> The port 'x11/xorg-protos' was removed on 2009-01-23 because: > "Not really necessary" > -> Hint: xorg-protos-7.3_2 is required by the following package(s): > xorg-7.3_2 > -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... > -> No files installed by xorg-protos-7.3_2 have been overwritten by other packages. > Deinstall xorg-protos-7.3_2 ? [no] yes > ---> Deinstalling 'xorg-protos-7.3_2' > pkg_delete: package 'xorg-protos-7.3_2' is required by these other packages > and may not be deinstalled: > xorg-7.3_2 > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > ! xorg-protos-7.3_2 (pkg_delete failed) > Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/local/sbin/pkg_deinstall xorg-protos-7.3_2 > # > > > > Any way to resolve this? > > Thanks much in advance for any clue, > -ewald Ewald, What I'd do under your circumstances is run pkgdb -F again and deinstall all the packages that are moved or obsoleted. If it won't deinstall because of dependencies, use: pkg_deinstall -f Then repeat pkgdb -F again & pkg_deinstall -f until it comes up clean. Then have a go again at updating according to the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING If the worst comes to the worst, you can always just deinstall X & then upgrade. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 17:30:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBC51065677 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128238FC1A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84463AFC1FE; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:30:31 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:30:31 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090127163825.a0461b3f.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> <20090127181332.F18112@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090127181332.F18112@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901270830.31293.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , herbert langhans Subject: Re: Keyboard-beep on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:30:32 -0000 On Tuesday 27 January 2009 08:13:38 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > man kbdcontrol Yeah I looked there too, only can set tone and off/normal/visual. Normal being when console asks attention, not on every stroke. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 17:45:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38DF106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA788FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8gzq1b00N0QkzPwAAhlVrV; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:45:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([76.102.24.75]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8hlU1b00T1dCpWs8NhlUab; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:45:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:45:32 -0800 From: Rem P Roberti To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20090127174532.GA1501@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: TEST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:45:29 -0000 Test From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 18:15:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC791065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8B8FC23 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1192849ika.3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:15:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Klr3FpFFiv5ILpFgUngQLT3nlwC4YIhAbXDPs1zBiLs=; b=j8VJylwS4rNhf/Zh2yubBzLRZL4Oe26E0p9Ryc83ghoekVyBsCfLk6hp3SAk2Uaaau efn8r/2JO9QJoYRmHEJqNM3qf8WGDUPmU2OWxBFzmc+QMAQjaLLtPuzfKpdTGZG66FJ3 As+nxB4b3WzeC4NG/MvzNCmqc6MNnibsk3Q1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CZu+P0udm41p1ffPKI6sn5DT9b6YUGgg8Oya+1T5PRfFsx5EXQJ47SSS2j1Z65XQuc SbkpcteGfEJjf0TAhmS4MaCNOhkHmu2UxiR01d5gWGLDe48/E5whBU2lxpgcLgDpuZxn UIHCNFDGEajhWRA3ASwRVa+/WtJvZOIgCoj2o= Received: by 10.210.59.3 with SMTP id h3mr1261605eba.122.1233080113751; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm31280670ikz.13.2009.01.27.10.15.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:15:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:15 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the > > default, or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there > > wouldn't have been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS > > is the pervasive attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or > > it's obsolete. > > it's not OSS problem but general problem with all software. this > problem started with commercial software some years ago because > PEOPLE WANTED THIS. I'm not talking about what you would call bloat, I'm talking about the use of software that's little better than a prototype, and people that would rather use unstable software than software that's a few months old. That is very much an OSS problem. > for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as > name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you > use. IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 18:31:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640A51065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicodache@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5468FC1A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicodache@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so3071483ewy.19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:31:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ic6Q8nqXwjjQWkroC5MSI62CRueQnoL9z4/Dtw61mJM=; b=esqKUEkhFfALB+SIz69PBIpe4ZEswMquXe5IQDoTqgggKh2iD+meKZWJYKQECvBABH 6BWUIUxUN6XaRjul+0+1dnPJtj+qujfXF5LuzzW2ozOIzM9OuOxEjJ5D8B9XEKjma/rW oD+w9O4jrlv+IkNL+lFUNq2ah5odYDV6iPOyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ivZRe9mfzdHTTGXzPyNg3QTf+XBLVRg+/ouJRu33ZJZUMSUSleHC8/So/FaFjrpUTQ 3LE6WdLzQuaFfZYfck/lAhsjL2W+WOeNeMVuB0sjiWuoTtbYBCBimkB0N2bqaZ+Lxf36 qiofovluyzPVtS/UY6ycaSMRvbCeK6hR8msJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.92.4 with SMTP id p4mr623946fgb.36.1233079112674; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:58:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090127174532.GA1501@bsd.remdog.net> References: <20090127174532.GA1501@bsd.remdog.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:58:32 +0100 Message-ID: <82029aed0901270958i67d59cd5qb79401026adadc5c@mail.gmail.com> From: nicodache To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TEST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:31:35 -0000 did not work. please try again. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Test > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 18:49:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25B1106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vlad.sekulic@utoronto.ca) Received: from bureau63.ns.utoronto.ca (bureau63.ns.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872D68FC2A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vlad.sekulic@utoronto.ca) Received: from localhost (webmail7.ns.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.79]) by bureau63.ns.utoronto.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0RIna0c022331; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:49:37 -0500 Received: from sb-sys.cs.toronto.edu (sb-sys.cs.toronto.edu [128.100.5.75]) by webmail.utoronto.ca (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:49:36 -0500 Message-ID: <20090127134936.02bl16g2s4g4o8gw@webmail.utoronto.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:49:36 -0500 X-ID: sekulicv From: Vladislav Sekulic To: Jerry McAllister References: <20090126220411.b9c04ypy0wo04wkk@webmail.utoronto.ca> <20090127155314.GC91587@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090127155314.GC91587@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-PMX-Version: 5.4.2.338381, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2009.1.27.183729 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding partitions to gmirror device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:49:42 -0000 Thanks, Wojciech and Jerry, for your help. Quoting Jerry McAllister : > First of all, you say that you have allocated 27GB of 238GB available. > Is that 238GB in the existing slice - gm0s1 or is it outside of > that slice? (NOTE, the 's' in the device name stands for slice - > so it is slice 1 of a possible 4). > It's 27GB used within the existing slice; gm0s1 spans the entire disk. > It could be helpful if you posted you /etc/fstab file and also > what is printed if you do: bsdlabel gm0s1 or, if it is what > they call 'dangerously dedicated' do: bsdlabel gm0 > $ sudo bsdlabel /dev/mirror/gm0s1 # /dev/mirror/gm0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 b: 8320016 1048576 swap c: 488375937 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" =20 part, don't edit d: 2097152 9368592 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 10485760 11465744 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 41943040 21951504 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > If it is all in that gmos1 slice, then just use bsdlabel on that > slice to add the rest to another partition within that slice. Just > boot from something other than that mirror, make sure nothing > in gm0 is mounted and then do: bsdlabel -e gm0s1 and fix it > up as needed. > Great, makes sense. I'll boot from the FreeBSD livecd and do this. Thanks again! Vlad -- Vladislav Sekulic Research Computing System Administrator Systems and Networks Research Group Dept. of Computer Science, University of Toronto http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~pocsys From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 18:52:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038041065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastiansetzer@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F058FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastiansetzer@alice-dsl.net) Received: from HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net ([192.168.125.98]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:51:15 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:51:14 +0100 Message-ID: <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F6@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? Thread-Index: Acl803H7uOhYZvtqS4q+Kg4h+hGKCwD2zNNK References: <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F5@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> From: "Sebastian Setzer" To: "Kurt Buff" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2009 18:51:15.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B6405A0:01C980B0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: openoffice@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:52:46 -0000 Thanks, with diablo 1.6 it works. To the openoffice porting team: Could you please mention this on = http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/? This page says "We support only Java 1.5" The problem with the macro securitylevel dialog wasn't solved by the = working java, though. But I found a workaround on = http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D244917 (and other sites, after I knew that I must search for MacroSecurityLevel = and Common.xcu): insert the following into = .openoffice.org/3/user/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Common.xcu 1 -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff Sent: Thu 1/22/2009 9:54 PM To: Sebastian Setzer Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? =20 $ uname -a FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #7: Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ pkg_info | grep java javavmwrapper-2.3.2 Wrapper script for various Java Virtual Machines $ pkg_info | grep jdk diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_3 Java Development Kit 1.6.0_07.02 $ pkg_info | grep -i openoffice openoffice.org-3.0.0 Integrated = wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/br On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sebastian Setzer wrote: > Hi, > On 64-bit FreeBSD 7, I installed these two packages: > OOo_3.0.0_FreeBSD71X86-64_install_de.tbz > diablo-caffe-freebsd6-amd64-1.5.0_07-b01.tar.bz2 > When I run OOo, it prints > javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! > Is diablo the wrong java 1.5 JDK? > > I didn't expect to need java - I just wantet to use StarBasic Macros. > But OOo seems to need it. I can't even set the Macro security options = (when I press the button, nothing happens). > > Sebastian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 18:54:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6D8106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8152A8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1118562nfh.33 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:54:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=JFH2i5xkflA+rPKQzIQDRfunSrJUlMk2Mo24E+865Bg=; b=GOlXyS5TZqdw0GDzS1qssUQRogHSm1jjkYYD21DInUe8EFqL6pS4YXt+wq3hwoDShK 5n6L/1sn+95rXxg6ioLdzwTFpBlg72wv5By7+DWSubiYZodAS20tZRP2mLh4e1nLeEgS n11+fje11K87KjXJF0/1NHGbaTA/QxbMOC9C4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HGd63eK3dLQxpjaW88zm2lGBUd/diLI7o/fu23v6shXGwv+o/kEghqvtWngt7Zqznp 8CEgFh5+lfo4me7pvLUMft7/obj9gBjWFKRTHaa42WhsLo5z/baf4f2IbWf1F39r4yM1 mwykL5UZm+i+MksliX7Xpi5rjHOfH6KOS9eiM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.252.17 with SMTP id e17mr222920mus.14.1233082495197; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:54:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:54:55 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: tool for detecting filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:54:57 -0000 Background: I received a CD that I couldn't mount on my FreeBSD computer. Later, in a different city, I played it on my MacBook. It was a slideshow with music that had been created using a Roxio product. I did a right-click on the CD's icon and selected "Get Info", where I learned that the CD was formatted for UDF. What would have been the best/easiest way to determine the filesystem present on a CD or hard drive partition from within FreeBSD? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:02:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27961106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from ariqua.hostforweb.net (ariqua.hostforweb.net [64.202.123.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013328FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [78.90.167.18] (port=39094 helo=[10.30.4.100]) by ariqua.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRtCc-0001ey-HV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:02:26 -0600 Message-ID: <497F5A3A.3070103@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:02:18 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F01E3.9040307@aboutsupport.com> <497F0CB4.4070700@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497F0CB4.4070700@fxclub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ariqua.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aboutsupport.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:02:26 -0000 Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Peter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Try updating to lastest version: >> >> BIOS >> RAID Controller BIOS >> RAID Controller Firmware > > Do you think it can be a problem? > It is possible to test it some how? > > This host is really far away from me. > Last 3 months I had issues will DELL 1650 and DELL R200. In both cases BIOS update fixed it. 1) DELL 1650 - FreeBSD did not want to installl, after BIOS udpate all went well 2) DELL R200 with SATA - no problems 2) DELL R200 with SAS, installed well, extremely scary message about HDD, after BIOS update, RAID controller BIOS udpate and RAID controller firmware udpate all went well BTW when the R200 scared me , I got a DELL diagniostic CD with FreeDOS and it did full system test. If you can get KVM over IP, have someone to put in the CD and 2 hours downtime is acceptable, it is good idea to run that CD on your machine. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:04:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F375E1065672 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401E78FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RJ3t4T018429; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:03:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RJ3skm018426; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:03:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:03:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Andrew Gould In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090127200233.X18393@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: tool for detecting filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:04:05 -0000 > Later, in a different city, I played it on my MacBook. It was a slideshow > with music that had been created using a Roxio product. I did a right-click > on the CD's icon and selected "Get Info", where I learned that the CD was > formatted for UDF. > > What would have been the best/easiest way to determine the filesystem > present on a CD or hard drive partition from within FreeBSD? [root@wojtek ~]# file -s /dev/ad0a /dev/ad0a: Unix Fast File system [v2] (little-endian) last mounted on /mnt3, last written at Tue Dec 30 00:29:21 2008, clean flag 1, readonly flag 0, number of blocks 49992, number of data blocks 49439, number of cylinder groups 4, block size 8192, fragment size 1024, average file size 16384, average number of files in dir 64, pending blocks to free 0, pending inodes to free 0, system-wide uuid 0, minimum percentage of free blocks 0, SPACE optimization From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:09:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AEE106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF1E8FC1F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp14.yandex.ru (smtp14.yandex.ru [77.88.32.84]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id C969119332D; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:09:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 254-0-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.0.254]:19718 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S393321AbZA0TJs (ORCPT + 2 others); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:09:48 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp14 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233083388 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 4 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:09:46 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <546183781.20090127210946@yandex.ru> To: "Sebastian Mellmann" In-Reply-To: <38577.130.149.220.164.1232964978.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> References: <20090122120027.4E186106570D@hub.freebsd.org> <20090125153358.X90458@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <38577.130.149.220.164.1232964978.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:09:55 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Sebastian. Âû ïèñàëè 26 ÿíâàðÿ 2009 ã., 12:16:18: SM> Ian Smith wrote: SM> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:10:09 +0100 (CET) >> > >> > So far I've got those rules: >> > >> > in_if="em0" >> > out_if="em1" >> > management_if="em2" >> > in_ip="100.100.100.1" >> > out_ip="200.200.200.1" >> > management_ip="172.16.0.201" >> > client1_subnet="192.168.5.0/26" >> > client2_subnet="192.168.6.0/26" >> > server_subnet="192.168.7.0/24" >> > >> > download_bandwidth="6144Kbit/s" >> > upload_bandwidth="1024Kbit/s" >> > delay="0" >> > queue_size="10" >> >> 10 slots ie packets is likely too small a queue size at these rates. >> You want to check the dropped packet stats from 'ipfw pipe show' re >> that; see the section in ipfw(8) about calculating sizes / delays. >> SM> I had a look at the ipfw howto on the freebsd site [1], but I'm not 100% SM> sure how to choose a "good" value for the queue size. SM> If I choose the default (50 packets) it means that it takes approx. 100ms SM> (600kbits / 6144kbits) to fill the queue. SM> So the question is: Which value to choose for the queue? >> I suggest using 'in recv' and 'out xmit' rather than via for these, for >> the sake of clarity. 'in recv' and 'in via' come to the same thing, as >> only the receive interface is known on inbound packets, but 'out via' >> applies to packets that were *received* on the specified interface as >> well as those going out on that interface after routing, which can lead >> to surprising results sometimes, and being more specific never hurts .. SM> Thanks for the hint. SM> I'll change that. >> > But when I have a look at the pipes with 'ipfw show' I can only see >> > packets go through the pipe 50 and nothing goes through the other pipes >> > (which makes sense actually since IPFW work that way?). >> >> IPFW works that way if you (likely) have net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 .. so >> that packets exiting from pipes aren't seen by the firewall again. If >> you set one_pass=0, packets are reinjected into the firewall at the rule >> following the pipe (or queue) action, which is what you want to do here. SM> Actually this is also described in the manpage of ipfw(8). SM> Shame on me ;-) >> And you'll surely need a much larger queue for this pipe, at 100Mbit/s. >> SM> As already asked above: SM> How do I know the queue is large or small enough for my needs? How calculate queue length for your link speed: suggest link speed is 64kbit/s = 8KB/s 50pkts in queue is 75000bytes (50*1500) ~73KB 73KB/8KB = 9sec so for bandwidth 64kbit you will have timeout 9000ms if queue is full. For example you want to have only 1000ms timeouts (ping) 1 * 8KB = 8KB. This max information transmited before queue will overflow for given timeout. 8Kb/1500= 5 -- value for your queue size For links with speed > 512Kbit your queue size 50 I use next values for queues: c pipe 1 config bw 65536bit/s queue 5 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 2 config bw 65536bit/s queue 5 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 1 config pipe 1 queue 5 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 2 config pipe 2 queue 5 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 3 config bw 131072bit/s mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 4 config bw 131072bit/s mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 3 config pipe 3 queue 10 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 4 config pipe 4 queue 10 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 5 config bw 262144bit/s mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 6 config bw 262144bit/s mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 5 config pipe 5 queue 20 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 6 config pipe 6 queue 20 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 7 config bw 524288bit/s mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 8 config bw 524288bit/s mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 7 config pipe 7 queue 40 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 8 config pipe 8 queue 40 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 9 config bw 1048576bit/s mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 10 config bw 1048576bit/s mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 9 config pipe 9 queue 50 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 10 config pipe 10 queue 50 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 11 config bw 2097152bit/s mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c pipe 12 config bw 2097152bit/s mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 11 config pipe 11 queue 50 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 c queue 12 config pipe 12 queue 50 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 WARNING!!! you must use own queue/pipe for in/out traffic. In case you put in and out traffic to one pipe/queue you will simulate asyncrounous link!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:18:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFE51065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com [207.106.133.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D2D8FC1B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6880944FA for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:02:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lukas.is-a-geek.org (unknown [71.113.98.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF187944F9 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:02:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:02:28 -0800 (PST) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 0E892B26-ECA5-11DD-91BC-CC4CC92D7133-96347044!a-sasl-fastnet.pobox.com Subject: Restarting new Xorg freezes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:18:49 -0000 The operating system and ports were all cvsupped and built from source today. I'm running Xorg + windowmaker + the "radeon" driver on i386 7-STABLE My xorg.conf was built from scratch by "Xorg -configure", plus I added Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" to the "ServerLayout" section, per /usr/ports/UPDATING, since I'm not running hal and I can't get keyboard or mouse otherwise. Everything appears to be great. My applications launch much faster than they did before the upgrade. Shutting down and restarting X is the only problem I'm having. This was not a problem before I upgraded to the new Xorg. This is a desktop system. I launch X with "startx" from the console. I can shut down X either by exiting windowmaker or by killing the Xorg server with ctrl+alt+backspace. There appear to be some failure messages on the console when I shut down X, but I don't know what they mean or if they're important. I'm attaching a log below. I don't see any stuck processes after the shutdown, but perhaps I don't know what I'm looking for. If I later restart X with "startx", some corrupted graphical junk appears on the screen and the system freezes solid. Keyboard and mouse are completely unresponsive. NumLock light won't change. I can't ssh into the system either. I can reproduce this at will, but my hard drives don't like it. Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? Do I need to switch to hal? This is the console log. The part after the wsoundserver warnings is the shutdown. ------------------------------------------------------------ Script started on Tue Jan 27 10:44:04 2009 [0:usr/home/lukas> startx xauth: creating new authority file /home/lukas/.serverauth.1413 X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD sonata.lukas.is-a-geek.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 27 08:36:33 PST 2009 lukas@sonata.lukas.is-a-geek.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 Build Date: 27 January 2009 08:59:48AM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jan 27 10:44:07 2009 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" object id 0005 01 src object id 2115 21 record type 1 record type 4 object id 000f 01 src object id 2116 22 record type 4 record type 7 object id 0002 02 src object id 2121 33 src object id 2116 22 record type 1 record type 2 record type 4 finished output detect: 0 Dac detection success finished output detect: 1 finished all detect before xf86InitialConfiguration in RADEONProbeOutputModes Dac detection success after xf86InitialConfiguration failed to set mtrr: Invalid argument Output 68 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC memreq 1 success mc fb loc is 00ef00d0 (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed Output 68 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC memreq 1 success Output 68 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Mode 1280x1024 - 1688 1066 5 freq: 108000000 best_freq: 108000000 best_feedback_div: 48 best_ref_div: 2 best_post_div: 6 Set CRTC PLL success Set CRTC Timing success Not using RMX scaler 0 setup success Set CRTC 0 Source success Output DAC1 setup success Output 68 enable success Enable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC 0 success Unblank CRTC 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC memreq 1 success wsoundserver warning: could not locate specified file wsoundserver warning: could not locate specified file wsoundserver warning: could not locate specified file waiting for X server to shut down XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 2149 requests (2149 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 1376 requests (1376 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 2344 requests (2342 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 48875 requests (124 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 18635 requests (18628 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Output 68 disable success wmCalendar: Fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. Blank CRTC 0 success wmfire: Fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. LibGTop-Server: pid 1452 received eof. Disable CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC memreq 1 success Enable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC 0 success Unblank CRTC 0 success [0:usr/home/lukas> exit Script done on Tue Jan 27 10:45:55 2009 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:20:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F808106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322318FC22 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0RJJCsq092534; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:19:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n0RJJCcO092533; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:19:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:19:12 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Vladislav Sekulic Message-ID: <20090127191912.GA92416@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090126220411.b9c04ypy0wo04wkk@webmail.utoronto.ca> <20090127155314.GC91587@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20090127134936.02bl16g2s4g4o8gw@webmail.utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090127134936.02bl16g2s4g4o8gw@webmail.utoronto.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding partitions to gmirror device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:20:23 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 01:49:36PM -0500, Vladislav Sekulic wrote: > Thanks, Wojciech and Jerry, for your help. > > Quoting Jerry McAllister : > > >First of all, you say that you have allocated 27GB of 238GB available. > >Is that 238GB in the existing slice - gm0s1 or is it outside of > >that slice? (NOTE, the 's' in the device name stands for slice - > >so it is slice 1 of a possible 4). > > > > It's 27GB used within the existing slice; gm0s1 spans the entire disk. > > >It could be helpful if you posted you /etc/fstab file and also > >what is printed if you do: bsdlabel gm0s1 or, if it is what > >they call 'dangerously dedicated' do: bsdlabel gm0 > > > > $ sudo bsdlabel /dev/mirror/gm0s1 > # /dev/mirror/gm0s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 > b: 8320016 1048576 swap > c: 488375937 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" > part, don't edit > d: 2097152 9368592 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > e: 10485760 11465744 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > f: 41943040 21951504 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 OK. Based on this you can just do the bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 as root (or from the fixit) and then, right after the definition of the 'f:' partition make an 'h:' partition with '*' as both size and offset. eg. h: * * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 Write and exit from the edit session and then newfs the new partition and fix up your /etc/fstab - the real one, not the fixit one so it will mount where you want it - don't forget to make the mount point. It should work just fine. Note, that when you are running from the fixit, it makes a filesystem in memory and mounts that as root (/). Your real root from the disk will probably be in /dev/mirror/gm0s1a so you will need to make a mount point in the memory root, let's say /tmproot and mount to that and then edit that fstab. eg Boot from fixit - get that holographic shell going bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1 Do the editing, write and quit mkdir /tmproot mount -w /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /tmproot cd /tmproot/etc vi fstab fix it up, write and quit Pull the CD, reboot and things should be just fine. My only concern is, I have never used the fixit on a mirror. I presume it should look just the same, but who knows, it might have a different looking address. I hope the gmirror stuff works on the fixit. If not, you will need to make a boot on something else - another hard disk with a full system. ////jerry > > >If it is all in that gmos1 slice, then just use bsdlabel on that > >slice to add the rest to another partition within that slice. Just > >boot from something other than that mirror, make sure nothing > >in gm0 is mounted and then do: bsdlabel -e gm0s1 and fix it > >up as needed. > > > > Great, makes sense. I'll boot from the FreeBSD livecd and do this. > > Thanks again! > Vlad > > -- > Vladislav Sekulic > Research Computing System Administrator > Systems and Networks Research Group > Dept. of Computer Science, University of Toronto > http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~pocsys > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:23:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9D2106575A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141868FC25 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRtWo-000FQz-F3; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:23:18 +0000 Received: from [83.167.118.179] (helo=[192.168.0.10]) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRtWn-000Jwi-FB; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:23:17 +0000 Message-ID: <497F5F23.8000004@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:23:15 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F01E3.9040307@aboutsupport.com> <497F0CB4.4070700@fxclub.org> <497F5A3A.3070103@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <497F5A3A.3070103@aboutsupport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:23:21 -0000 Peter пишет: > Proskurin Kirill wrote: > >> Peter wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Try updating to lastest version: >>> >>> BIOS >>> RAID Controller BIOS >>> RAID Controller Firmware >>> >> Do you think it can be a problem? >> It is possible to test it some how? >> >> This host is really far away from me. >> >> > > Last 3 months I had issues will DELL 1650 and DELL R200. > In both cases BIOS update fixed it. > > 1) DELL 1650 - FreeBSD did not want to installl, after BIOS udpate all > went well > 2) DELL R200 with SATA - no problems > 2) DELL R200 with SAS, installed well, extremely scary message about > HDD, after BIOS update, RAID controller BIOS udpate and RAID controller > firmware udpate all went well > > BTW when the R200 scared me , I got a DELL diagniostic CD with FreeDOS > and it did full system test. If you can get KVM over IP, have someone to > put in the CD and 2 hours downtime is acceptable, it is good idea to run > that CD on your machine. > Well it is possible - but what information it can give me? Could you explain - just to know if this 2 hours is acceptable for this. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:24:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F23106579B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB7C8FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp5.yandex.ru (smtp5.yandex.ru [77.88.32.24]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id A10CF19336B; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:24:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 254-0-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.0.254]:29446 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S6144111AbZA0TYA (ORCPT + 1 other); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:24:00 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp5 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233084240 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 6 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp5.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:57 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14510195100.20090127212357@yandex.ru> To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <79E49174-F6EC-4E97-AB7F-BCE05303A749@mac.com> References: <1292888884.20090127013434@yandex.ru> <79E49174-F6EC-4E97-AB7F-BCE05303A749@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Can not set up two ADSL link to provider X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:24:13 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Chuck. Âû ïèñàëè 27 ÿíâàðÿ 2009 ã., 1:57:10: CS> On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:34 PM, KES wrote: >> I can not setup two ADSL PPPoE Links to same provider. >> Because of imposibility to setup route for second connection >> First connection gets: >> ng0: flags=88d1 >> metric 0 mtu 1492 >> inet 92.113.94.215 --> 195.5.5.203 netmask 0xffffffff >> >> Second can not be established because of: >> Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Add address >> 92.113.94.249/32->195.5.5.203 to ng1 >> Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Adding IPv4 address to ng1 >> failed: File exists CS> You should talk to your network provider and ask them whether they CS> want you to do multilink PPP or IEEE 802.3ad link aggregation. Either CS> way, the bonding of the two connections should give you a single CS> virtual network interface (tunX for the first, probably, and laggX in CS> the second case) which has only a single route. CS> For example: CS> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/erx/junose80/swconfig-physical/html/ethernet-config14.html CS> ...talks about "After you configure the LAG bundle, you can route IP CS> traffic over it, create a VLAN over it, or route PPPoE traffic over it." I do not want to aggregate links. I want use them as standalone I had two servers, two lans and two ADSLs. Now I have one server, four NICs: first LAN1, second LAN2, third ADSL1, forth ADSL2 I want to route LAN1 through ADSL1, LAN2 through ADSL2. LAN1/LAN2 must not interact with each other. For each LAN I use its own FIB (routing table). Only one problem: I can not run setup two PPPoE link if for second link is leased same gateway as for first So, is it possible to workaround this problem? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:29:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E4E1065706 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A22A8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5F85148483; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 1C38428086; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:29:29 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-ad89bbb000000fcd-06-497f60994128 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 05B4F28098; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:29:29 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Swiger To: KES In-Reply-To: <14510195100.20090127212357@yandex.ru> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <1292888884.20090127013434@yandex.ru> <79E49174-F6EC-4E97-AB7F-BCE05303A749@mac.com> <14510195100.20090127212357@yandex.ru> Message-Id: <02520DA6-8B85-4E58-A358-BA313DD84133@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:29:28 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Can not set up two ADSL link to provider X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:29:29 -0000 On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:23 AM, KES wrote: > CS> ...talks about "After you configure the LAG bundle, you can > route IP > CS> traffic over it, create a VLAN over it, or route PPPoE traffic > over it." > > I do not want to aggregate links. I want use them as standalone > I had two servers, two lans and two ADSLs. Now I have one server, four > NICs: first LAN1, second LAN2, third ADSL1, forth ADSL2 > I want to route LAN1 through ADSL1, LAN2 through ADSL2. LAN1/LAN2 must > not interact with each other. For each LAN I use its own FIB (routing > table). > Only one problem: I can not run setup two PPPoE link if for second > link is leased same gateway as for first > > So, is it possible to workaround this problem? Talk to your ISP. :-) I find it perhaps unusual that you would be in a circumstance which is well-suited for link aggregation and would gain from the higher bandwidth and redundancy advantages which it offers, but do not want to do so. Well, you know your circumstances best.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:49:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10EB1065692 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BD38FC24 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so3197217ewy.19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:49:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TzYOfyaS5MQFJs461B8IZnbHYfOEGRyS9+ad3QXF2mY=; b=O6ybLCvvpCxFCn+jfNr9srCrTgNFTAperpishkTTAFng/PXi7PABPNgGZCqsKYu9Tt 0DVKOXhPz9pQr1J9u4znGVvyzq5/yy0dA7Ir+AWJdDvOsdaDBwgZBnyvBeqc/m1J0i4w YX8AG7eFCbcw3p8bTy/CVPoLywCcA8c9YAoPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=i9Yz//yuuf6MTI9tntsJNTerG5xXKT46sw81mluASjIgnj3D2c8beLZpwfIwNfGz/b pT38co12H6goXvOCExO2L78AS0amfLmC01VO0HUXSSV6AuyfsEgxYlLar4qGrEItoGGL e7GEkBVT6yc5ciRCzhfwEW6Qx8wZhExCVgGq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.223.2 with SMTP id a2mr10639mur.88.1233085791102; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:49:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090127200233.X18393@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090127200233.X18393@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:49:51 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: tool for detecting filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:49:54 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > Later, in a different city, I played it on my MacBook. It was a slideshow >> with music that had been created using a Roxio product. I did a >> right-click >> on the CD's icon and selected "Get Info", where I learned that the CD was >> formatted for UDF. >> >> What would have been the best/easiest way to determine the filesystem >> present on a CD or hard drive partition from within FreeBSD? >> > > [root@wojtek ~]# file -s /dev/ad0a > /dev/ad0a: Unix Fast File system [v2] (little-endian) last mounted on > /mnt3, last written at Tue Dec 30 00:29:21 2008, clean flag 1, readonly flag > 0, number of blocks 49992, number of data blocks 49439, number of cylinder > groups 4, block size 8192, fragment size 1024, average file size 16384, > average number of files in dir 64, pending blocks to free 0, pending inodes > to free 0, system-wide uuid 0, minimum percentage of free blocks 0, SPACE > optimization > > Thanks. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 20:32:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936891065670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2488D8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so229079fga.35 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wSAdfT1ndmPzceP5+ED1L1WfdSQ9q+eu7v7P6SGCHvw=; b=pbJp5kqqHfTpmEOuwatJh1pGHgs56oHv0oJHU2HbxErTZTtrRnkVvUxdVaZDXF7+Y4 0ztSKXrhKCaOfpU3+j3epmClYeu85YM8dBrCAL64oB41kwTt92srF0X8OezW54mkgKby MzsVC2FezMpL752TvigUMKgHHMS3RLLa2pSJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iMkBJe1/aSILdhvB3NAM131AOWuwXFY1DyhSzT8JZw3fGHN8/aluuH6HUQE/1KFs/R DVc5aatAxXhvfHB7VDmjzlzsBlwUjSPQwSE7z+mMjg3pzbCutzPQRBKTeMPeDDTnt6Sn LatgUu4JGjtwVmPj1Bb2k8Vdv6HXbu7hqqkdE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.199.11 with SMTP id b11mr561358bkq.105.1233088355644; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:32:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:32:35 -0800 Message-ID: From: patrick To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Control IRQ assignment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:32:37 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD 7.1 on a new Dell Inspiron 530s. I'm having an issue where the same IRQ is being assigned for multiple devices, and I have a device that absolutely needs its own IRQ. The BIOS is very limiting, and won't allow me to disable shared IRQ assignment. Some suggestions I've read about booting FreeBSD with ACPI hasn't been an option, because without it enabled, FreeBSD does not see the SATA controllers/disks, and thus won't boot. Linux has a utility called irqbalance (http://www.irqbalance.org/) that seems like it could be promising, but of course it is Linux-specific. Is there any way in FreeBSD that I can help the system decide which IRQs to assign to what? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 20:50:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810FB106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinbadie@yahoo.com) Received: from n13.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n13.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C0AE8FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinbadie@yahoo.com) Received: from [209.191.108.97] by n13.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 20:37:41 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.25] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 20:37:41 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.168] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 20:37:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp109.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2009 20:37:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 772635.44521.bm@omp109.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 55662 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jan 2009 20:37:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=w2fAI+/Guj5zogaEQXNuKhEtyRm9x+wYjRax1fW7HSs+WYfWJ2oggZScnQ15EMwm2kgsUF0lbD3hdyGsdpHlnrAGw4xpETl7O2SJum+9CM8fV/YcI+7kvvkgX/tFUZ0TEd/RwGO4Vck3zSlf1upjvksDAFRI/l8uSN/UpxVFo0A=; X-YMail-OSG: 9oEPxrwVM1kfmdkBiqZEC57LROG2bBXp1wisq_PJpPDMT8xrt36nPvhp4YvLF1fLO1wZOIxzrpM_mKDHMS4_jRa17EbkZ7DC.qUgGgSF3DaSPZYi3604xfOm5e8qrhGTdg0RNJ3IHc2MOl7yq058MTul6Dk- Received: from [85.108.205.8] by web59906.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:37:41 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:37:41 -0800 (PST) From: Martin Badie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <699775.55525.qm@web59906.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: audit not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:50:12 -0000 Hi, I am trying to have audit logs but i can't and frankly I couldn't able to find out what is wrong with my conf files: audit_control: dir:/var/audit flags:lo,+ex minfree:20 naflags:lo policy:cnt,argv filesz:0 audit_warn: logger -p security.warning "audit warning: $@" # # Compress audit trail files on close. # if [ "$1" = closefile ]; then gzip -9 $2 fi my audit_user file is empty and all other 2 files are untouched. But only line I get is: header,93,10,audit startup,0,Tue Jan 27 22:34:14 2009, + 916 msec subject,root,root,wheel,root,wheel,1571,1571,0,0.0.0.0 text,auditd::Audit startup return,success,0 trailer,93 praudit /dev/auditpipe also doesn't give me real time logs. One last point is that sometimes with the configuration above i get some command execution lines but not all of them so I could't figure out what is wrong with my config. I appreciate if someone in this list can help me. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 21:09:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B53106566C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtoth@queldor.net) Received: from queldor.net (queldor.com [216.164.83.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6E08FC1D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtoth@queldor.net) Received: from c-24-34-183-218.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.34.183.218] helo=[192.168.1.243]) by queldor.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRuTn-000DJ8-VY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:24:16 -0600 Message-ID: <497F6D95.8040601@queldor.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:24:53 -0500 From: Michael toth User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F0BE6.105@queldor.net> <497F0D2E.5060309@fxclub.org> <497F0DF8.5030507@queldor.net> <497F1B42.4090804@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497F1B42.4090804@fxclub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:09:41 -0000 Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Michael Toth wrote: >> >> Proskurin Kirill wrote: >>> Michael Toth wrote: >>>> Proskurin Kirill wrote: >>>>> Hello all. >>>>> >>>>> What we have: >>>>> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. >>>>> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). >>>>> All latest version from ports. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day >>>>> with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. >>>>> >>>>> We swap RAM - not helps. >>>>> We swap chassis - not helps. >>>>> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. >>>>> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 >>>>> days) >>>>> >>>>> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? >>>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid >>>> controller ? >>>> >>> Hm >>> >>> Port: megarc-1.51 >>> Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc >>> Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software >>> Maint: gerrit.beine@gmx.de >>> B-deps: >>> R-deps: >>> WWW: http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ >>> >>> Do you think it can work with Dell controller? >>> >> I know it works w/ the Dell controllers, I have also had issues with it >> where it randomly made my machines (all Power Edge 2950 running 7.x) >> core dump > > mail# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc > mail# make install clean > ===> megarc-1.51 is marked as broken: Running megarc seems to cause > memory corruption. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc. > mail# > > Hm. Do I really need it? :-) > No, you do not really need it, it would just allow you to get information from the raid controller (and as I said before this port caused me issues and core dump'd my machines) I was more trying to get at IF you were running this that if may have been the cause of your issues. As someone else has already mentioned you really need to find out if there is a kernel panic or not and going from there. -- -- [ Queldor ] (Warning: This message may cause you to understand something) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 21:39:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008051065675 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtame@instec.cu) Received: from instec.cu (mail1.instec.cu [169.158.80.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18468FC23 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtame@instec.cu) Received: from [192.168.3.2] (fgym-95.instec.cu [192.168.3.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by instec.cu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0RL5jNW009109 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:05:45 -0500 Message-ID: <497F7CE3.8070105@instec.cu> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:30:11 -0500 From: "V. M. Tame-Reyes" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Question about install of Fortran compiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:40:06 -0000 Hello FreeBSD community, I had a friend download all the files in freeBSD ports site (the official one) so i have a large collection of .tbz files but i don't seem to be able to find a correct fortran 77 compiler, i already installed c compiler, but calling g77 wouldn't work. Any help anyone could provide ? Best regards, -- Victor Tame From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 21:56:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E561065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mail.khubla.com (gateway.khubla.com [66.18.197.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87758FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from [192.168.128.143] ([192.168.128.143]) (authenticated user tom@khubla.com) by mail.khubla.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:55:06 -0700 Message-ID: <497F813D.1040902@khubla.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:48:45 -0700 From: Tom Everett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "V. M. Tame-Reyes" References: <497F7CE3.8070105@instec.cu> In-Reply-To: <497F7CE3.8070105@instec.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about install of Fortran compiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:56:36 -0000 The FreeBSD ports tree has a number of Fortran compilers in the ports collection: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/lang.html To install one from the ports collection, su to root and then install the port. For example to install G95 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/lang/g95/pkg-descr) cd /usr/ports/lang/g96 make make test make install V. M. Tame-Reyes wrote: > > Hello FreeBSD community, > > I had a friend download all the files in freeBSD ports site > (the official one) so i have a large collection of .tbz files > but i don't seem to be able to find a correct fortran 77 > compiler, i already installed c compiler, but calling g77 > wouldn't work. > > Any help anyone could provide ? > > Best regards, > > -- > Victor Tame > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:17:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9069106567C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD18F8FC19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C4B5C2E52D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:18:49 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:17:03 +1000 Message-Id: <1233094623.1202.27.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:17:31 -0000 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 09:27 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > have you solved the problem yet? I also have libXmu failed to > upgrade due to libxcb-xlib.la. Thanks!! > Yeah, it worked. Run 'portupgrade -a -rf libxcb' and go and do something else for a day... :) > > TFC > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 22:04 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > >> On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 11:22 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >> > Here's another one: > >> > > >> > /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -D_THREAD_SAFE > >> > -I/usr/local/include -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include > >> > -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -version-number > >> > 2:1:0 -no-undefined -o libXrandr.la -rpath /usr/local/lib Xrandr.lo > >> > XrrConfig.lo XrrCrtc.lo XrrMode.lo XrrOutput.lo XrrProperty.lo > >> > XrrScreen.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lX11 -L/usr/local/lib -lXext -lXrender > >> > -lX11 > >> > grep: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory > >> > sed: /usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la: No such file or directory > >> > libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-xlib.la' is not a valid libtool > >> > archive > >> > *** Error code 1 > >> > > >> > I tried a search myself: ng. > >> > I tried to find a config switch for libxcb: ng. > >> > > >> > Let me know what else you need or what I can do to help here. Obviously > >> > other ports are dependent on these and are therefore failing as well. > >> > FWIW this is an upgrade using portupgrade. > >> > >> This is fallout from the libxcb update. xcb-xlib no longer exists, you > >> need to update everything that depends on libxcb using your preferred > >> method. > > > > I'd also like to point out that I just rebooted and X died in the > > hole... :) Missing rgb files and what not > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:21:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13414106567C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0C08FC18 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9105C2F0A2 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:22:28 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1233067663.18867.13.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233067663.18867.13.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:20:43 +1000 Message-Id: <1233094843.1202.30.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:21:15 -0000 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:47 -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Em Ter, 2009-01-27 às 09:27 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu: > > > Hi, > > have you solved the problem yet? I also have libXmu failed to > > upgrade due to libxcb-xlib.la. Thanks!! > > I removed every instance of libxb-xlib.la from /usr/local/lib/*.la > than it all works again > > a shell script like: > ========================== > #!/bin/sh > > lista=`find /usr/local/lib -type f -name "*.la"` > > if [ -n "$lista" ] > then > for i in $lista > do > if grep $1 $i > /dev/null > then > sed -i "" "s|/usr/local/lib/$1||" $lista > fi > done > fi > ================================ > supose you name this shell -> XX > than..... > sh XX libxcb-xlib.la > will do the trick.... > > after that, you will be able to build things again. I've been talking to the porters and that would not be the recommended way of fixing this. Running portupgrade -a -rf libxcb resolves the issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:24:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820751065680 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293DE8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RMNVcd018855; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:23:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RMNV4r018852; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:23:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:23:31 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Andreas Xanke In-Reply-To: <20090126150443.63f97233.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090127232048.S18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150443.63f97233.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:24:06 -0000 >> stupid things > > I do share this point of view, but sadly, an open system like > the Web has been polluted and made unusable (or at least has the > tendency to be this way) for those who cannot access this > propretary product / format. > > Don't get me wrong, I've played a bit with "Flash" on FreeBSD, > found it useless and am living happily now without it, without what i personally found is that webpage that can't be viewed at all without flash most often doesn't have any usable information. for pages that have some flash extras like adverts etc.. it's even adventage not having this. Once again - every company can limit it's userbase just becasue it wants. Flash as a standard isn't bad, but because of this, it's not really a standard. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:28:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09568106564A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24CA8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686FA5C2E558 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:30:17 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:28:31 +1000 Message-Id: <1233095311.1202.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:28:57 -0000 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 16:04 +0000, RW wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > > > > I'm also ashamed that they released it in a hurry to compete in this > > condition to a very sceptical Window$ crowd. > > People have to use KDE4 in significant numbers for it to mature. The > real problem was not that they released it, but that Linux distributions > rushed to make it the default version, or in some cases the only > version, in their packaging systems. From what I've read, many people > in the KDE4 project were not happy about this. If most distributions > had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default, > or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have > been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive > attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete. > Thats a fair comment for the linux crowd... :) > BTW, I don't think it's really fair to suggest that KDE4 is trying to > ape Vista, it looks to me as if the've both just borrowed a lot from > OS-X, A lot of the other stuff in KDE4, has been under development for a > long-time. Another fair comment, but they were still competing with Vista to the punch and only just made it- consider the media releases around the time of the Vista launch from the kde marketers. They were offering kde on M $! Personally I would have waited for the Vista cock up to reveal itself while I tidied up kde4, THEN swooped in with this really cool alternative to save the day. Once people realised that this could run on a FOSS you'd get these projects mobbed with new users (good for linux anyway). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:31:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6311F1065677 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339278FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0RMUsk7035006 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:30:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:30:54 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:31:02 -0000 Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new FreeBSD6.3 system. If I can't figure out what is wrong or whether it is worth fixing, I am going to have to find some other archiver so we can get good backups and trust them to be easily restored. What we plan to do is backup a bunch of Unix systems to one FreeBSD box and then use a commercial package to back that box up to an enterprise-wide system we use. The archiver we need must be able to make 1 full backup of each system like tar and then incrementals until we are ready for another full backup. Any suggestions as to what is best? Dar seemed to be okay until the incrementals would hang each time with some error messages about the format version being too high which is bogus because we are using the same version for all the effected systems. The archive files should use tar or some other common storage method so we could unpack an archive from a Linux system in to a FreeBSD directory or vice versa. Any backup packages using tar would be fine as long as they can do incremental backups and use ssh as the transport. Any ideas are appreciated. Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:35:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F65B106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4E18FC0A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan-a.emsphone.com [199.67.51.107]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n0RMYvXq061862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RMYt7R061292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0RMYsFB061289; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:54 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: patrick Message-ID: <20090127223453.GC63837@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:34:58 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Control IRQ assignment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:35:00 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 27), patrick said: > I'm running FreeBSD 7.1 on a new Dell Inspiron 530s. I'm having an issue > where the same IRQ is being assigned for multiple devices, and I have a > device that absolutely needs its own IRQ. The BIOS is very limiting, and > won't allow me to disable shared IRQ assignment. Some suggestions I've > read about booting FreeBSD with ACPI hasn't been an option, because > without it enabled, FreeBSD does not see the SATA controllers/disks, and > thus won't boot. Linux has a utility called irqbalance > (http://www.irqbalance.org/) that seems like it could be promising, but of > course it is Linux-specific. Is there any way in FreeBSD that I can help > the system decide which IRQs to assign to what? irqbalance doesn't do what you think it does; it simply pins interrupt handlers on particular CPUs. The only way to ensure that a given device has an IRQ line to itself is to look at your motherboard documentation, determine which IRQs are wired to which PCI slots, and rearrange your cards to assign your troublesome device an IRQ of its own. Some motherboards let you assign onboard devices (NICs, parallel port, etc) to different interrupts, too. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:36:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9F810658E7 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810378FC44 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RMaM5t018916; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RMaMrP018913; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090127232455.X18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:36:52 -0000 > > On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:51 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> fortunately it's only tendency to "trendy" software like KDE. not for all >> unix software. > > But sadly for the most software that is used for real productivity, > such as media players, programming environments, or even web browsers > and mail clients. "programming environment"? what do you mean? unix itself is THE BEST (tm) programming environment i've ever seen, with most powerfull project manager called make(1), plus LOTS of tools to automatize most of other things. of course - not everybody likes to "waste" few hours to fully understand things, get "cool" "trendy" "programming environment" and then waste few hours every day. classic unix programs as so flexible that it's often usable for things they were not supposed to. For example - i use make and C preprocessor to make webpages :) instead of all this .css i use headers where i define all colors font sizes etc. i want to change colors on all pages - just one line in one file and run make >> same or faster every release on THE SAME machine! > > Exactly, that's why I'm such a happy FreeBSD user, or, to be honest, > HAVE BEEN, because I think... well, sometimes I could crash the > stupid box against the wall because things that worked well years > ago when I setup the system with "old" software aren't possible > with "modern" software anymore, and that's a thing I cannot so why don't you revert to old software? > believe. Evolution is good, but what if it's not only about > adding, fixing and optimizing things, but making things impossible, why do you use evolution? i installed it once, started once and after being shocked how crappy it is i deinstalled it. text mode mail clients are the best, like mutt, alpine etc. there is not a problem if you like to view attachments, just define a graphic viewer in alpine etc.. > Hardware > --------- = speed++ > FreeBSD-- > > And yes, I think I could notice the speed improvement in the > past. Improvements in performance and startup speed are always > welcome, allthough they're not a major issue to me. As long > as it works flawlessly in general, I'm happy. :-) with FreeBSD you get both. >> it's not unix problem. it's problem of people that like to have their unix >> be "like windows" so it is :) > > I cannot imagine one (!) reason why I would like to have my UNIX > to be like "Windows", I'm happy it NOT like "Windows". :-) me too, but ask others why ;) >> what exactly software you rebuild and found slower (except KDE/Gnome >> bloatware) ? > > You're inviting me to complain. :-) > > Before I will start, I may say that I often heared that "KDE is > an excellent development platform", so I tried it out, from whom ? :) KDE is unless > especially because of KDEvelop which I found quite interesting > (running it without KDE). KDE and Gnome are simply too much > for my machine - end for me. So much stuff I don't need and believe me, there are NO BETTER development platform than standard unix tools > First I found that compiling lasts much longer. I know that the yes gcc gets slower. anyway - i don't compile kernel and FreeBSD every day. something like every year is closer. > And burncd doesn't work on my CD/DVD recorder anymore, but > I have already made the switch to ATAPICAM oriented programs > such as cdrecord and cdrdao. i already did the same. i don't even have atapicd driver in kernel > Now for X. The startup of X has been "improved" over > the startup of XFree86. It now lasts almost 10s from "startx" > to X. Launching WindowMaker needs no more than 1s of this > time. But sadly, X cannot run 1400x1050 anymore. Autodetect X -configure then edit xorg.conf manually. that's all. > others on that list: Whenever I switch to textmode and then > back to X, the content of the edit buffer (that what you select > with the left button and output with the middle button) > gets output at the window where the mouse is! So if it is to tell you the truth i don't switch to textmode. i found my own "desktop enviroment ;)" much better, with switching desktops defined in ALT-F*, and by default having xterm running full screen, and all window frames, decorations and buttons disabled. so xterm looks like true text console. except i can run X clients from it. well you wrote so much i would need to spend a bit time to read it all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:36:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770E610658E6 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B8D8FC42 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CE45C2E9EC for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:38:19 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:36:34 +1000 Message-Id: <1233095794.1202.44.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:37:01 -0000 On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 17:52 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default, > > or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have > > been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive > > attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete. > > it's not OSS problem but general problem with all software. this problem > started with commercial software some years ago because PEOPLE WANTED > THIS. > > they wanted to have top-end rubbish as most of poeple don't do anything > more on their computer than starting few simple programs and a web > browser, but wanted to stay "ahead". > > That's why both windoze and KDE (and lots of others) software is such a > crap. > > But it's very simple solution for that for everyone slightly smarter than > idiot. > > Simply DON'T use them. You can do all things with non-"trendy" unix > programs, and with "archaic" unix way of computing. > > for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as > name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you use. > > that's all. the wistles are not needed for work. Actually it makes work > harder and much less efficient. You don't need "desktop features", you > jest need programs that do what you need, and run them. > > Leave all this colorful whistles to average monkey. Ok, call me monkey average then :) Only this monkey is starting to work on drivers for FreeBSD.... I like a nice looking system to work on - it helps motivate and inspire me to make something easy and useful for people to feel comfortable working with. That said I'm using xfce4 (based on your comments) adjusted to use transparency and all the cool stuff (even compiz-fusion, which I haven't yet found a use for so its disabled atm). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:37:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7C01065A71 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B027A8FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RMbZYa018923; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:37:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RMbZiY018920; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:37:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:37:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Martin McCormick In-Reply-To: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <20090127233659.O18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:37:53 -0000 > Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a > number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It > worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands > working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new > FreeBSD6.3 system. > if you are backup up to disk on same/other server, use rsync. cp -lpR is very useful for doing "snapshots" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:40:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1B21065971 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59378FC16 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RMdtsL018934; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:39:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RMdt26018931; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:39:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:39:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1233095311.1202.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: <20090127233812.U18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <1233095311.1202.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:40:13 -0000 >> long-time. > > Another fair comment, but they were still competing with Vista to the > punch and only just made it- consider the media releases around the time > of the Vista launch from the kde marketers. They were offering kde on M > $! > let they compete how much as they like. be happy at least in this we have close-to-free market rules. both fills large market niche for those who like to have useless system with lots of bells and whistles i simply stay away from this crap, and wish you the same. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:58:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D310656F8 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C7F8FC21 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RMwCS7018955; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:58:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RMwBKg018952; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:58:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:58:11 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090127234024.Q18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:58:40 -0000 > worse, if I compare them to older versions. And if I try to > print pages, they look terrible (exceed page borders). > Furthermore, it crashes more often than Opera 5 or 7. When do you have opera 7 package somewhere? i would like to downgrade. yes it got very bad. > Ah yes, and Firefox doesn't have a key combination to quit > the program (such as every other program has, usually something > like Ctrl-Q). with my fvwm2 config i simply press CTRL+right mouse click to close window:) > Firefox has always been criticised for being slower than > every other browser. I'm still sticking to Opera because > I like the look and feel, the good keyboard support and > the mouse gestures. Yes, I know some of them can be installed > to FF as an addition, but... it's not the same! :-) the best browser i've seen is links (graphics mode). excellent font rendering, excellent speed, but unfortunately quite limited HTML processing. > > Oh and printing, apsfilter, allthough equipped with the same > settings as before, doesn't utilize the duplexer of my HP > Laserjet 4000 duplex office class printer. It reqires me to > pull paper cartridges (because it uses them, even if paper > is in tray 1) and then put paper manually (!) into tray 1. well i have laserjet 4 and use ghostscript+lpr. can't help you. > I know that most of these "improvements" come along when the > developers decide to move to a new version of the toolkit, > for example Gtk to Gtk 2, such as it has been in X-Chat. > Try to follow this example (or try it by yourself): Normally, > you have X-Chat with a startup dialog of the available IRC > servers. In Gtk 1, you could double-click on an entry and simply use text mode irc clients like epic or BitchX. > Now for mail. Sylpheed has always been a good mail client, fast is relative. for me it always been slow. USE TEXT MODE MAIL CLIENTS. > to incorporate new mail (from /var/mail, I fetch separately > via fetchmail) disables its whole GUI for several seconds, which is funny as every normal mail clients reads mailbox files directly. alpine reads maildir dirs directly, and i use maildir format (through procmail). > The image viewer xzgv, a fine thing, now has problems displaying > the file and directory icons on the left. Let's say the window yes it get broken. no cure for this, i use xv now only. it's bad, xzgv was useful. > bar is [|||---------]. While I keep holding down cursor up > or cuirsor left, this bar should move [||||||||----] until the > end of the file. But now, allthough I can hear the sound "move", > the bar AND the screen content doesn't update, so I could reach > the file's end without knowing it. And OSD doesn't work anymore, > but I don't care for this. look at port options. i installed mplayer recently, works fine. i use it regularly > Whenever I quit some programs (confirmed for: xmms, xzgv), the mpg123 is your friend. best ever mp3 player. > For a long time, StarOffice 5.2 was my tool of choice when I > thought I needed something except LaTeX. It didn't matter > that it brought its own desktop. For some time afterwards, > versions 1.x of OpenOffice could be installed via pkg_add, > including the german version. Since 2.x and now with 3.x, > it seems that compiling it is required. I don't have an > office package installed at the moment, I think I should > look if AbiWord can be installed as a german version... > (I prefer my system to be english-only, with this particular > piece of software as the only exception.) use LyX. > Then, the Midnight Commander has been "improved". The command > line now includes the full path, and for longer paths, column ports/misc/mc-light >> not mentioning Slowlaris :) > > Hey hey, Solaris is not that bad, it's my secondary OS (usually well with solaris you have lots of time to make your tea or coffee :) >> unfortunately you are right. but you can use IMHO firefox with GTK1 > > This would be an exception, and maybe it would reduce in > functionality. no it works fine. >>> from the system's speed gain. That's why I love to use them instead >>> of their "oversized brothers". >> >> so use them as long as you can - as i do. > > I would still run my 5.x system, I would change back ANY DAY. i don't mean old FreeBSD version, but old programs. dig out older ports tree and extract needed ports :) >> There is NO USE for it's "GUI", and it's programs are toys, not much >> usable. > > KDE's philosophy seems to resemble the same concepts that have > spoiled users who are long time "Windows" users: Put as much > functions as possible into one program. Don't mind if it takes which is exactly opposite to unix philosophy, having small program doing little things but doing it well, and a method to automatically use many different programs to get your job done. i really prefer unix philosophy. > I think that's UNIX great advantage over all these "one program > does everything" concepts. Sure, there are many little tools that the reason i think that things like KDE in unix are pure nonsense. for those who like windoze way of computing, windoze is the best. it's really worth spending these few $ on windoze that case. >> use separate programs for spreadsheets, word processors and similar >> "office" work. > > I grew up with this spirit. =^_^= good >> i tested it. > > It was just an assumption so it wouldn't look like I did not like > KDE in the first place. :-) for "modern" programs there are no computer on which they work fast. >> >> gnome is slow too. just a little bit less slow ;) > > Are we comparing desktop systems noch in magnitudes of "how much > they suck"? :-) Okay well, that's how elections work here in It doesn't matter how much they suck. Even if it would be superfast, bugfree program sets like KDE, i won't be using them. Actually there are in a world one PROPERLY coded system with GUI, and much more. It's called AmigaOS. As you see - people WANTED crap, that's why Amiga doesn't really exist anymore for over 10 years. > Germany: you're voting for the party or the candidate that > seems to be the smaller evil, allthough everyone knows that there are no smaller evils, all are the same. at least in Poland. I don't think germany is different. Actually all these voting is just to make most people thing that they have any effect of what will go on and how. they have no effects. Those who really rules your/mine country are (with few exceptions) not those who are elected ;) >> BTW are there somewhere available older version of opera package? :) > > It seems to be good to store /usr/ports/packages of older versions > that habe been confirmed to work well, but if they can ever be > installed on a newer system...? if you have opera 7 somewhere please mail be binary package. thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:00:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95651065813 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9C48FC1E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RMxotn018973; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:59:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RMxo5K018970; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:59:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:59:50 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1233095794.1202.44.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: <20090127235839.T18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1233095794.1202.44.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:00:09 -0000 >> >> Leave all this colorful whistles to average monkey. > > Ok, call me monkey average then :) Yes i do. >Only this monkey is starting to work > on drivers for FreeBSD.... And first wasting half of it's time for all this "cool stuff" instead of work on drivers! Of course we are happy someone works on improving/writing drivers be it monkey or not ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:04:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A63C1065B9A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3458FC14 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0RN4Yjm019021; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:04:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0RN4Xv2019018; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:04:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:04:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chuck Robey In-Reply-To: <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> Message-ID: <20090128000025.G18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:04:49 -0000 >> do stupid things > > I really, really dislike the notion that any company, in the selfishly sheer > pursuit of profits, should be able to dictate to anyone what that person should > be able to do, giving that it's within the limits of the law. Not allowing one > to view many sites ISN'T within the moral control of any company. Those who disallow you to view many sites are the sites authors!! Nothing else. Properly designed page is viewable in ANY browser. It's not bad to use flash for some "flashing" adverts, as long as you can browse the site without this. The REAL information doesn't need any extras, and should be always readable with simplest text-based browser. They don't just dumps out potential readers that don't use "the only right" OS and browser. They too - dumps out all disabled people, most importantly blind. It's not a problem for a blind to read plain text on computers (there are LOTS of solutions for this), but navigating in graphics-only manus etc. is impossible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:05:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E8B106599F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8479E8FC0C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Jan 2009 17:39:09 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List In-Reply-To: <497F1B42.4090804@fxclub.org> References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F0BE6.105@queldor.net> <497F0D2E.5060309@fxclub.org> <497F0DF8.5030507@queldor.net> <497F1B42.4090804@fxclub.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:39:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1233095948.18865.599.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sean McAfee , Michael Toth Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:05:54 -0000 > mail# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc > mail# make install clean > ===> megarc-1.51 is marked as broken: Running megarc seems to cause > memory corruption. We have a PR open on that - ports/130326: http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.ports.bugs/browse_thread/thread/14c7c3b8261e8be7/f8cd79bbd9404609?lnk=raot&pli=1 ~BAS > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc. > mail# > > Hm. Do I really need it? :-) IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:14:45 -0000 --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:30:54PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a > number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It > worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands > working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new > FreeBSD6.3 system.=20 >=20 > If I can't figure out what is wrong or whether it is > worth fixing, I am going to have to find some other archiver so > we can get good backups and trust them to be easily restored. Depends on _what you want to back up. For backing up FreeBSD system files, use dump(8). My machines have separate partitions for /, /usr and /var. These are all backed-up by making dumps. For backing up user data, like /home, I prefer rsync. If my machine breaks, I can restore the system from dumps using nothing but a boot CD and the dumps. (to get / and all ports back up and running), and then use rsync to restore the user data. > What we plan to do is backup a bunch of Unix systems to > one FreeBSD box and then use a commercial package to back that > box up to an enterprise-wide system we use. The archiver we need > must be able to make 1 full backup of each system like tar and > then incrementals until we are ready for another full backup. >=20 > Any suggestions as to what is best? Use the OS's native dump(8) command to back up the system partitions. It's the best way to do a bare metal recovery. For the rest, use rsync(1). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl/lV0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUX5wCfRXUVrjeVHzY1j4JxN1+/RdZa qoYAoJ41nASObIUae02x9aQeuhFZ+tQG =K6KQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:18:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D845D10656D9; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BABB8FC21; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434E5AFC1FE; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:18:39 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:18:38 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090125214457.GA4568@phenom.cordula.ws> <200901252241.05483.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090126181421.GA1472@phenom.cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: <20090126181421.GA1472@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200901271418.39080.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Doug Barton , cpghost Subject: Re: make -jN build with portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:18:41 -0000 On Monday 26 January 2009 09:14:21 cpghost wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:41:05PM -0900, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday 25 January 2009 20:48:22 Doug Barton wrote: > > > Josh Carroll wrote: > > > > What I do is the following via make.conf, > > > > > > I think this is a good solution. Given that incredible foot-shooting > > > power of the -j stuff I am not inclined to add something like this to > > > portmaster, not even as an "advanced" option. > > Yes, I understand the problem with that. The make.conf solution > is good enough for now. ;) > > > Given the fact that the build target is presumably -j safe (as far as the > > ports system is concerned), it would be nice to have a BUILD_JOBS in > > Mk/bsd.port.mk similar to INDEX_JOBS that is already there. Port > > maintainers then can also set WITHOUT_PARALLEL (or USE_PARALLEL=NO etc) > > for ports that break by themselves (f.e. www/lynx, editors/vim). > > portmaster should then have no problem setting BUILD_JOBS on request. > > That would be absolutely perfect! > > At least, big ports (www/firefox3 etc...) that take a long time to > compile could use USE_PARALLEL=YES right now (or the solution with > make.conf) if they are safe with -jN. The gazillion smallish ports > could come later when maintainers have some time to follow up, but > they are not really all that critical. PR Filed: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=131065 -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:20:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143A91065B69 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E405E8FC26 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LRxE0-000HSQ-Ba; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:20:10 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFC12A16DED; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:20:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <497F96A8.6080201@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:20:08 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:20:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin McCormick wrote: > Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a > number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It > worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands > working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new > FreeBSD6.3 system. > > If I can't figure out what is wrong or whether it is > worth fixing, I am going to have to find some other archiver so > we can get good backups and trust them to be easily restored. > > What we plan to do is backup a bunch of Unix systems to > one FreeBSD box and then use a commercial package to back that > box up to an enterprise-wide system we use. The archiver we need > must be able to make 1 full backup of each system like tar and > then incrementals until we are ready for another full backup. > > Any suggestions as to what is best? Dar seemed to be > okay until the incrementals would hang each time with some error > messages about the format version being too high which is bogus > because we are using the same version for all the effected > systems. > > The archive files should use tar or some other common > storage method so we could unpack an archive from a Linux system > in to a FreeBSD directory or vice versa. > > Any backup packages using tar would be fine as long as > they can do incremental backups and use ssh as the transport. > > Any ideas are appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group Hi Martin, It doesn't use tar, but I've had great luck with rsnapshot (http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/rsnapshot/ - http://www.rsnapshot.org/) for backing up multiple RedHat Linux and FreeBSD servers to a central server over SSH. rsnapshot is very flexible and you can set up your desired retention policies - hourly, daily, weekly and monthly. The destination backup tree is kept as small as possible with the use of hard links. Best of luck, Greg Larkin - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. 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(69.169.154.48.provo.static.broadweave.net [69.169.154.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm26618708wfa.20.2009.01.27.15.20.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:20:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:19:31 -0700 From: Shawn Badger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Laptop battery life on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:47:19 -0000 Hi, I recently installed FreeBSD 7.1 on my laptop, replacing Arch Linux and I noticed a significant drop in my battery life (from ~3 hours to ~1.5 hours). I realize that Linux has their "tickless" kernel, which I am sure explains the difference, but my question is... is there anything I can do in FreeBSD right now to improve this? And is there going to be any work done the kernel to allow the hardware to enter into a low-power state for an extended period of time? My laptop is an Acer Travelmate 4100 which has the following hardware: - Pentium M 1.6 GHz processer - 2 GB RAM - integrated video/sound - 802.11bg / bluetooth I'm somewhat of a minimalist and don't use X11. I've disabled the bluetooth adapter, but frequently use my wireless adapter (intel pro/2200bg). Does anyone have any suggestions that could potentially extend my battery life? Thank You, Shawn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:59:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAF1106566B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A758FC1D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736374F15C46; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 5885E2808C; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:59:54 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1180711d-a9827bb000000ff0-60-497f9ffacb67 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 2E54F28050; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:59:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2F8A37C3-178D-48CB-A17A-CBF6CAD86F60@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Shawn Badger In-Reply-To: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:59:53 -0800 References: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop battery life on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:59:55 -0000 On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Shawn Badger wrote: > I'm somewhat of a minimalist and don't use X11. I've disabled the > bluetooth adapter, but frequently use my wireless adapter (intel pro/ > 2200bg). Does anyone have any suggestions that could potentially > extend my battery life? Have you tried reducing HZ to 100 (put kern.hz="100" in /boot/ loader.conf and reboot)? Are you running powerd? Look into "sysctl hw.acpi" and "sysctl debug.cpufreq".... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 00:17:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2CF106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848328FC17 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LRy76-0007pJ-PT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:17:05 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline From: Warren Liddell Organization: Blackthorn PTY LTD Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:10 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200901281017.10613.shinjii@maydias.com> Subject: Programs loading but sitting in limbo whilst not displaying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:17:07 -0000 Im running FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE4.1.4 and recently for no reason i can think of when i try and load FireFox or Thunderbird, according to my process list, the applications are running, but yet they dont ever show up in KDE to use//liaise with. I have even started them from command line but again, nothing, it just sits there, no error msg, but process list again, sais there running. I have tried recompiling both ports with no success and im runnin gout of theorys as to whats happening. Any ideas/thoughts welcomed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 00:45:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDA7106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mail.khubla.com (gateway.khubla.com [66.18.197.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76D08FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from [192.168.130.197] ([192.168.128.31]) (authenticated user tom@khubla.com) by mail.khubla.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:44:46 -0700 Message-ID: <497FAA7A.60006@khubla.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:44:42 -0700 From: Tom Everett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497F4857.1060005@khubla.com> <243FF450-D8B0-491D-A341-8758F8EF20D4@gmail.com> <497F67B0.70609@khubla.com> <7d6fde3d0901271224h3b77d59et88fc032857365700@mail.gmail.com> <497F730A.7050402@khubla.com> <7d6fde3d0901271618r68a46d16y5627db66b325261c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0901271618r68a46d16y5627db66b325261c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: SMP Problem on IBM x330 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:45:08 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Tom Everett wrote: > >> the CPUs are active in the BIOS. The BIOS is v 1.05. with 1.06 being the >> very latest. >> >> According to IBM the changes from 1.0.5 to 1.0.6 are >> >> Added in serial remote console redirection >> Fixed PXE ROM execution failure when using PXE on planar Ethernet #2 >> Removed the "Auto Configure" IRQ option for the System Service Processor IRQ >> setting in POST/BIOS setup to prevent erroneous configuration change and >> diskette drive failure messages >> >> I have a number of these machines running linux with no problems. >> >> ? >> >> >> Garrett Cooper wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Tom Everett wrote: >> >> >> ok, two problems. I don't remember that I had the option to explicitly >> install an SMP kernl, and looking back here >> (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html) , I >> don't see that sysinstall gave me that option. Additionally, I have the >> kernel source and I see that in GENERIC, SMP is enabled. Am I missing >> something? >> >> >> Garrett Cooper wrote: >> >> >> On Jan 27, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Tom Everett wrote: >> >> >> >> I originally posted this to "FreeBSD Questions" but was told that the >> ACPI list might be more appropriate. >> >> I'm running the "stock" FreeBSD 7.1 kernel on an IBM x330 machine. The >> machine has two physical processors but it seems that FreeBSD 7.1 only sees >> one. I downloaded the kernel source and it seems that the GENERIC kernel >> has SMP installed. Is there something else I can try? Thanks in advance >> for your wisdom. >> >> $ sysctl -a | grep cpu >> kern.threads.virtual_cpu: 1 >> kern.ccpu: 0 >> kern.smp.cpus: 1 >> kern.smp.maxcpus: 16 >> debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0 >> debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0 >> debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1 >> debug.stop_cpus_with_nmi: 1 >> debug.PMAP1changedcpu: 0 >> hw.ncpu: 1 >> hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 >> machdep.cpu_idle_hlt: 1 >> machdep.hlt_cpus: 0 >> dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU >> dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu >> dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU1 >> dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 >> dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 >> dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 >> dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 >> dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% >> >> >> Did you install the SMP kernel from sysinstall? There's a difference. >> Thanks, >> -Garrett >> >> >> Nope -- that would be it. Is one CPU not active in the BIOS? Do >> you have the latest BIOS flashed from IBM? Does a Linux disk see both >> CPU's? >> Cheers, >> -Garrett >> > > I only see one CPU in the kernel output you provided though -- > that's why I'm confused. Also, please don't top-post ;). > Thanks! > -Garrett > > Sry, didn't know that top-posting was bad etiquette. The BIOS reports 2 CPUs and that they're both enabled. Is there some other output I could provide that would help? I can't be 100% sure, but I _think_ this worked with FreeBSD 6. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 00:50:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFC1106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawnbadger@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCCA8FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawnbadger@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so6797255rvf.43 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:50:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8F1dgWd2a8ckeoKbJdsqjRVIgHb3de9IUMKlsVajqew=; b=q3iKL+qW2e0ompPE3yVOJ0UobfNluMFyWd6xm0YWTJ50HqhS/vfP22wgbEAoH1mNpx QGKRqHRAbastdpMs589WbsDK0W7or1xiUAR8xBQILdY4XgtiYcTkn7kuwgusXYMBYsgZ 2DJUbVB3Y1rgQjbcepasuAhsEyqtxNkNahXJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gffwBX8xfQDi6gBxa0EYmasjKRjF/T/A2M8ZN1KblSNi89HJGP/vUK+EJkm9tiaJHf 4ZfmWI67930YaOGTmjq7SXoPCl8qKoSzFov+e0MVoAiRg2e2TLQRW26jSwBFj2nKE9QA eCfe1wRfsDxziHSvPMUEWKtQsakzvn85kkR2g= Received: by 10.142.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr643960wfb.81.1233103843986; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.132? (69.169.154.48.provo.static.broadweave.net [69.169.154.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1095295wfg.19.2009.01.27.16.50.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:50:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497FAB99.1050607@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:49:29 -0700 From: Shawn Badger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> <2F8A37C3-178D-48CB-A17A-CBF6CAD86F60@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <2F8A37C3-178D-48CB-A17A-CBF6CAD86F60@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop battery life on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:50:44 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Shawn Badger wrote: >> I'm somewhat of a minimalist and don't use X11. I've disabled the >> bluetooth adapter, but frequently use my wireless adapter (intel >> pro/2200bg). Does anyone have any suggestions that could potentially >> extend my battery life? > > Have you tried reducing HZ to 100 (put kern.hz="100" in > /boot/loader.conf and reboot)? > Are you running powerd? Look into "sysctl hw.acpi" and "sysctl > debug.cpufreq".... > > Regards, Thanks for the ideas Chuck. I lowered kern.hz to 100 as you suggested (does this affect the kernel's ability to track time in milliseconds? ie. if I want to run a benchmark using the 'time' utility?). And the output of the two sysctl queries is posted here: http://pastebin.com/m5ae8aa1c I'm not very familiar with acpi, so if you see anything that could be optimized, I'd appreciate the feedback. Shawn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 00:55:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35A4106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0BC28FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 98587 invoked by uid 98); 28 Jan 2009 00:25:56 +0000 Received: from 10.0.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(10.0.0.2):. Processed in 5.669157 secs); 28 Jan 2009 00:25:56 -0000 Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (10.0.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 28 Jan 2009 00:25:50 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.146 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lug) by lerwick.hopto.org with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:25:50 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1472.192.168.0.146.1233102350.squirrel@lerwick.hopto.org> In-Reply-To: <200901281017.10613.shinjii@maydias.com> References: <200901281017.10613.shinjii@maydias.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:25:50 -0000 (UTC) From: craig001@lerwick.hopto.org To: "Warren Liddell" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programs loading but sitting in limbo whilst not displaying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:55:36 -0000 > Im running FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE4.1.4 and recently for no reason i can > think of when i try and load FireFox or Thunderbird, according to my process > list, the applications are running, but yet they dont ever show up in KDE to > use//liaise with. I have even started them from command line but again, > nothing, it just sits there, no error msg, but process list again, sais there > running. > > I have tried recompiling both ports with no success and im runnin gout of > theorys as to whats happening. > > Any ideas/thoughts welcomed. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Warren I also had this problem, I resolved it by; portupgrade -Rf firefox My understanding is that this goes and forcibly builds all of the ports that firefox depends on, then firefox itself. If you run the commands with truss it will give you some debug information on what it is getting stuck on. Kind Regards Craig Butler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 01:39:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6117A1065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475E98FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DE9515CB9F; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id E71B128085; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:39:39 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807134-a7859bb000000ff0-7c-497fb75b3bb1 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id B94CC28041; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:39:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Shawn Badger In-Reply-To: <497FAB99.1050607@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:39:39 -0800 References: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> <2F8A37C3-178D-48CB-A17A-CBF6CAD86F60@mac.com> <497FAB99.1050607@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop battery life on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:39:40 -0000 On Jan 27, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Shawn Badger wrote: >> Have you tried reducing HZ to 100 (put kern.hz="100" in /boot/ >> loader.conf and reboot)? >> Are you running powerd? Look into "sysctl hw.acpi" and "sysctl >> debug.cpufreq".... >> > Thanks for the ideas Chuck. I lowered kern.hz to 100 as you > suggested (does this affect the kernel's ability to track time in > milliseconds? ie. if I want to run a benchmark using the 'time' > utility?). Changing the scheduler quantum won't affect the system clock or the ability to do millisecond-level timing of userland processes. It does affect the granularity of things like ipfw/dummynet if polling is enabled, but shouldn't have any real negative effects otherwise. For most of Unix history, HZ=100 was a common default, and the reduced context switch frequency should result in a decent improvement to power drain. If you have a concern, consider comparing against HZ=250 and see how the battery life and responsiveness or granularity of network traffic, etc feel.... > And the output of the two sysctl queries is posted here: http://pastebin.com/m5ae8aa1c > > I'm not very familiar with acpi, so if you see anything that could > be optimized, I'd appreciate the feedback. I have limited experience with running FreeBSD on a laptop personally [1], so others will likely have more relevant feedback; I'm just aware of some starting points. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck [1]: I've helped a few people run FreeBSD 5.x/6.x on various IBM ThinkPads (circa T.42s) an maybe an HP Pavillion or Dell Latitude, and I've run FreeBSD a bit on a Mac mini and a MacBookPro (2,2), but I don't use FreeBSD on a laptop regularly...I think of it as a server OS. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 01:53:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B00106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@orparadigm.com.au) Received: from smtp-2.servers.netregistry.net (smtp.netregistry.net [202.124.241.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663418FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@orparadigm.com.au) Received: from [122.106.251.79] (helo=[192.168.10.12]) by smtp-2.servers.netregistry.net protocol: esmtpa (Exim 4.63 #1 (Debian)) id 1LRyk5-0002AT-6c for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:57:21 +1100 Message-Id: <2D35ADFA-4CC4-46F1-A963-7AFE698E5C7A@orparadigm.com.au> From: Tom Mende To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:57:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: comms/qfaxreader - printer recognition issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:53:49 -0000 Good day list; Upgraded from 6.2 to 7.0 via clean install from CDs, then to 7.1 via binary update. After upgrading to 7.0 I rebuilt and install all the same ports using the same makefile except that the perl entries are updated. This port built and install beautifully except it no longer recognizes my printer, which it used to do on 6.2. Cups is set as the printing system for xfce in the xfce "Printing & System Settings" dialogue. This was set prior to installing the comms/qfaxreader port. The print dialogue in comms/qfaxreader is greyed out not allowing the selection of a printer. Any ideas or help welcomed. Cheers, Tom ...and everything else prints fine, xpdf, Mousepad (gui test editor), Opera (native), and files from the command line using lp (cups version). uname -mr 7.1-RELEASE-p2 i386 cat /etc/make.conf CPUTYPE?=pentium3 WITH_CUPS=YES CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES WITHOUT_LPR=YES DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 # added by use.perl 2009-01-18 18:58:05 PERL_VER=5.8.9 PERL_VERSION=5.8.9 pkg_version -v | grep -i xfce gtk-xfce-engine-2.4.3 = up-to-date with port libxfce4gui-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port libxfce4mcs-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port libxfce4util-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-appfinder-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-desktop-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-icon-theme-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-mcs-manager-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-mcs-plugins-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-media-0.9.2_9 = up-to-date with port xfce4-mixer-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-panel-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-print-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-session-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-utils-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-wm-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port xfce4-wm-themes-4.4.3 = up-to-date with port pkg_version -v | grep -i qfaxreader qfaxreader-0.3.1_2 = up-to-date with port cat /use/home/tom/.qfaxreader/settingsrc [export] format=PNG scaled=false [image] smooth=true zoom=0.36 [internationalization] language=Standard [mainwindow] dock=\n\n\nFile,View,Image,\n[File,0,0,-1,-1,1][View,0,0,-1,-1,1] [Image,0,0,-1,-1,1]\n\n\n\n\n\n\n maximized=true [printer] border=false default=hp2600n [printer-hp2600n] bottom=0.5 cmd=/usr/local/bin/lp -d {PRINTER} left=0.5 paper=ISO A4 pslevel=1 right=0.5 top=0.5 unit=cm [sidebar] cidame=true cidnumber=true interval=10 lastpath=/var/spool/hylafax/recvq path=/home/tom refresh=true sender=true size=true time=true visible=true width=286 [statusbar] cidname=true cidnumber=true pages=true resolution=true sender=true time=true visible=true [toolbar] hide_at_fullscr=true uses_big_pixmaps=true From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 02:19:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C411106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15538FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE34416C0122; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:19:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S2IuFf002141; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:18:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:18:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: RW Message-Id: <20090128031855.1d32d79c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:19:03 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +0000, RW wrote: > IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a > keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. Well, I found this a problem, too, but very early recognized that there are window managers that can actually combine keyboard AND mouse control at a very user-friendly level. Such a window manager is WindowMaker. It can even utilize the keys on the left of a Sun Type 6 keyboard for window manager functions (front, back, roll up, hide, full- screen etc.) which "the big DEs" can't. What I don't like personally about "the big DEs" is their way of handling windows through the means of the mouse. You're forced to click on tiny buttons, and if you enlarge the control buttons, you end up with uselessly wasting screen space. In WindowMaker, there are many operations that don't force me to first move the mouse to a certain place and THEN do the operation I want. This makes windowing operations, especially in operations context, very fast and easily. So professional window managing isn't about minimalism only. There are other window managers that can provide effects and "bells and whistles" very efficiently, if you think you need them. But, of course, they're not "mainstream". -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 02:30:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D21E106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8888FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E269F16C0163; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:30:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S2UN6h002167; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:30:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:30:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090128033023.0176b724.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090127232048.S18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150443.63f97233.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127232048.S18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:30:30 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:23:31 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what i personally found is that webpage that can't be viewed at all > without flash most often doesn't have any usable information. There are web pages that, without "Flash", won't even let you know if you're on the correct page - the HTML source of the index page doesn't contain anything than one "Flash" reference. It's with "Flash" loaden pages as with orthography (in Germany at least): If you have something OF VALUE to tell, content and form go hand in hand. Professional web projects always honor this point of view, containing valid (!) HTML and, if "Flash" is included, there's always a means to bypass it, because it's an ADDITION, and not required. Even more important: If you're disabled through a disease of your eyes (read: you're blind), youre happy about every page that can be displayed with lynx (or any text mode browser). That's a sign of quality, especially if img includes alt= and longdesc= for the visually impaired. > for pages that have some flash extras like adverts etc.. it's even > adventage not having this. Opera simply displays an empty box, not asking be to download a plugin that doesn't even exist. :-) > Once again - every company can limit it's userbase just becasue it wants. > Flash as a standard isn't bad, but because of this, it's not really a > standard. "Flash" isn't a standard. If it's integrated in every major browser on any OS (such as viewing JPG images is, for example), then I'd be glad to review my standpoint. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 02:57:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA435106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560908FC27 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7162416C010F; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:57:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S2vG5n002237; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:57:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:57:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090128035716.c0f2f0f1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090127232455.X18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127232455.X18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:57:24 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > "programming environment"? what do you mean? Some "heler application" for integration and managing source files, such as KDevelop, Eclipse or the like. > unix itself is THE BEST (tm) programming environment i've ever seen, with > most powerfull project manager called make(1), plus LOTS of tools to > automatize most of other things. I've already recognized this fact. I've tried out KDevelop and Eclipse. Well, fine, they may have their users, but I've not gotten one of them. To me, text-file based controls are the best solution. Multiple X Terminals or screen sessions give me the speed and power to do my development work. And finally, I've found Makefile to be even a good tool for web design. Hm? What? Yes, exactly, or to be more precise, not... I do use it to implement "developer-site SSI replacement", for uploading content (make upload) and similar tasks. It's possible! :-) I have a system to automatize writing of applications for a job (printed output and PDF for e-mail) based on a config file, and then a Makefile to create the tex file from it, and all the other targets. The advantage to automate things is one of the reasons that drove me away from those X based development tools. There's simply too much interaction for nothing. > of course - not everybody likes to "waste" few hours to fully understand > things, get "cool" "trendy" "programming environment" and then waste few > hours every day. If you have a concept for programming (and as a part of it, implementing source code), you're well off with every tool that fits your needs. The most clicky-colorful X environment doesn't help if you can't program. Trying to falsify this condition, there are many tools for web developers that output something that's not HTML, claiming that you don't need to know anything about the Web, HTML, the computer or anything in life, but everyone can be a web developer (and see "Flash" for such reasons, too). I think this "click & done" attitude is found in the programming world, too, but because programming isn't cool enough (not as cool as web development), there are not so much causes from these tools, except what some "script kiddies" do produce. :-) > classic unix programs as so flexible that it's often usable for things > they were not supposed to. As I introduced above. Hey, in the past I even abused a floppy tape drive to play music from QIC tapes. :-) > For example - i use make and C preprocessor to make webpages :) > > instead of all this .css i use headers where i define all colors font > sizes etc. CSS isn't that bad, my most use of make and cc is #include with HTMLPP=cpp -C -P -traditional, and ftp -u ftp://$(FTPUSER):$(FTPPASSWD)@$(SERVER) * for the "make upload" command. Even "make deinstall" (to clean it from the web server) is possible, how would you do this if printf "prompt\nmdelete *\nbye\n" | ftp ftp://$(FTPUSER):$(FTPPASSWD)@$(SERVER)/ wasn't possible? :-) > i want to change colors on all pages - just one line in one file > and run make Possible with CSS, too, as long as read from a file (no inline CSS). > so why don't you revert to old software? Impossible. For example, XFree86 -> xorg dependencies. What I can still use (e. g. xpdf package, LaTeX, xmms) is still in use here. > > believe. Evolution is good, but what if it's not only about > > adding, fixing and optimizing things, but making things impossible, > > why do you use evolution? i installed it once, started once and after > being shocked how crappy it is i deinstalled it. Misunderstanding: I didn't mean Evolution, the e-mail and other things managmement program, I meant evolution, the Charles Darwin thing. :-) I tested the e-mail Evolution once, found it MUCH too complicated and kept using fetchmail + sylpheed. > text mode mail clients are the best, like mutt, alpine etc. Yes, pine was my first working mail client. What I liked most about text mode clients was that I could access them from everywhere just by the means of a SSH application. > > Before I will start, I may say that I often heared that "KDE is > > an excellent development platform", so I tried it out, > > from whom ? :) KDE is unless >From KDE users. :-) > > especially because of KDEvelop which I found quite interesting > > (running it without KDE). KDE and Gnome are simply too much > > for my machine - end for me. So much stuff I don't need and > > believe me, there are NO BETTER development platform than standard unix > tools Let me emphasize your use of "standard" here. Because I did use many differnt platforms (BSD, Linux, Solaris, even IRIX and HP-UX), I found it quite comfortable that with the means of basic (not BASIC) knowledge you could do development on all the platforms in their installed state, no need to install X-based DE tools. This is due to the fact that all the UNIXes and Linusi share essential standards, such as standard scripting shells, standard ways of organizing things and standard ways of accessing files or devices. > > First I found that compiling lasts much longer. I know that the > > yes gcc gets slower. > > anyway - i don't compile kernel and FreeBSD every day. > > something like every year is closer. Yes, same here, too. Setup once, the use. This is one of the first things I do right after installation: configure a kernel that exactly represents the existing hardware and does only contain what's needed. As I said, I may add some new complaining: In the past, I always had these lines in my kernel config: options SC_DFLT_FONT makeoptions SC_DFLT_FONT=iso options ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP makeoptions ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=german.iso options UKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP makeoptions UKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=german.iso This allowed me to have a german keyboard layout even in SUM. But it stopped working with 7.0. > > Now for X. The startup of X has been "improved" over > > the startup of XFree86. It now lasts almost 10s from "startx" > > to X. Launching WindowMaker needs no more than 1s of this > > time. But sadly, X cannot run 1400x1050 anymore. Autodetect > > X -configure > then edit xorg.conf manually. that's all. That's what I did. If I setup things like with XFree86, the whole system stopps working, even if I force a vertain mode with Option "PreferredMode" "1400x1050". The xrandr workaround is simply the only thing that works, allthough it might be the reason for other problems (wine). > well you wrote so much i would need to spend a bit time to read it all. Session suspended. We'll continue another time. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 02:59:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC46A10656F3 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A722E8FC20 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF42216C0165; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:59:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S2xZqb002241; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:59:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:59:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Da Rock Message-Id: <20090128035935.6d77c7b5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1233095794.1202.44.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1233095794.1202.44.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:59:37 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:36:34 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > That said I'm using xfce4 > (based on your comments) adjusted to use transparency and all the cool > stuff (even compiz-fusion, which I haven't yet found a use for so its > disabled atm). Maybe this is interesting or inpiring to you: Hmmm... -> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/ Bah! -> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/ -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:04:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EC3106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6C78FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8gzX1b0040lTkoCA9r49ln; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.244.28]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8r471b00B0dV8n18Qr48i4; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 From: Dave Feustel To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090128031855.1d32d79c.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <20090128030408.5C6C78FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfeustel@mindspring.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:18:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +0000, RW wrote: > > IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a > > keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. > > Well, I found this a problem, too, but very early recognized that > there are window managers that can actually combine keyboard AND > mouse control at a very user-friendly level. Such a window manager > is WindowMaker. > > It can even utilize the keys on the left of a Sun Type 6 keyboard > for window manager functions (front, back, roll up, hide, full- > screen etc.) which "the big DEs" can't. > > What I don't like personally about "the big DEs" is their way of > handling windows through the means of the mouse. You're forced > to click on tiny buttons, and if you enlarge the control buttons, > you end up with uselessly wasting screen space. In WindowMaker, > there are many operations that don't force me to first move the > mouse to a certain place and THEN do the operation I want. This > makes windowing operations, especially in operations context, > very fast and easily. > > So professional window managing isn't about minimalism only. There > are other window managers that can provide effects and "bells > and whistles" very efficiently, if you think you need them. > But, of course, they're not "mainstream". > I have gotten very interested in window managers. Earlier tonight I added links to about 6 non-mainstream window managers, including WindowMaker. But I still don't understand how the menus of each of these WMs are customized via .xinitrc, etc. Where can I find that info. I would like to have a right click menu that would allow me to select a new WM to run with. Is that possible? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:24:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E321065674 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04B98FC1B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0S3NvFw063547 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200901280323.n0S3NvFw063547@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <63545.1233113037.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:57 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:24:09 -0000 Greg Larkin writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > It doesn't use tar, but I've had great luck with rsnapshot > (http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/rsnapshot/ - > http://www.rsnapshot.org/) for backing up multiple RedHat Linux and > FreeBSD servers to a central server over SSH. Thanks to each of you. I have actually experimented once with rsync and I appreciate knowing about rsnapshot. I think one of these plus dump may serve us well. Again, thanks for your help. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:29:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E541106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5AA58FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 4597 invoked by uid 89); 28 Jan 2009 03:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 28 Jan 2009 03:44:37 -0000 Message-ID: <497FD121.9060206@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:29:37 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:29:52 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a > number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It > worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands > working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new > FreeBSD6.3 system. I feel for you. > What we plan to do is backup a bunch of Unix systems to > one FreeBSD box and then use a commercial package to back that > box up to an enterprise-wide system we use. The archiver we need > must be able to make 1 full backup of each system like tar and > then incrementals until we are ready for another full backup. I am an AMANDA advocate. You seem to have a decent understanding of the difference between 'backup' and 'archive'. rsync does not fit your bill here, IMHO. Given that you need a 'standard' method of recovery, AMANDA conforms to dump(8) and restore(8) if you don't have easy/direct access to its internal amrecover(8) command set. The initial learning curve isn't bad for a sys admin who is familiar with performing proper network backups, and once initially configured, just does it's job. Since you can have all of your FreeBSD boxes backed up to a single hierarchical directory structure via AMANDA, your enterprise server should have no problem sweeping that single directory up, fulfilling that portion of the criteria. > Any suggestions as to what is best? Dar seemed to be > okay until the incrementals would hang each time with some error > messages about the format version being too high which is bogus > because we are using the same version for all the effected > systems. My suggestion is to use something that conforms to age-old and tried-and-true dump/restore routines. A backup (as I can tell you already know) is as good as the time it takes to restore from it. > The archive files should use tar or some other common > storage method so we could unpack an archive from a Linux system > in to a FreeBSD directory or vice versa. http://amanda.org Not only will it use tar, but you can define, on a partition level basis, which tar to use, whether to compress, etc etc. > Any backup packages using tar would be fine as long as > they can do incremental backups and use ssh as the transport. If you do use AMANDA, it is trivial to copy the backups over SSH whether it be after they are done or during backup. HTH. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:30:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904DB1065737 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD118FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967D116C00DF; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:30:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S3TsdS002400; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:29:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:29:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090128042954.90cdb848.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090127234024.Q18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127234024.Q18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:30:03 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:58:11 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > do you have opera 7 package somewhere? i would like to downgrade. > yes it got very bad. I think I have a working Opera 7 installation on my old-fashioned laptop (FreeBSD 5), and if I've got the /usr/ports tree still there, maybe I can "make package"? It's just the question if the defective hard drive (sounds like a chainsaw, since it came from the factory already) lets me do this... I'll try and notify you about the results. > with my fvwm2 config i simply press CTRL+right mouse click to close > window:) Hey, good idea! I think Alt+PF4 works (as default) on most window managers (it does in WindowMaker at least). In GeoWorks Ensemble, you could close a window with PF3. > the best browser i've seen is links (graphics mode). excellent font > rendering, excellent speed, but unfortunately quite limited HTML > processing. I didn't know links had agraphics mode... time to checkt this out! > well i have laserjet 4 and use ghostscript+lpr. can't help you. I still have a Laserjet 4 (my first printer), I got it as a present, never treated it kindly (printed VERY much), and it's still working. It's more than 15 years old now, mind this, or better, try this with a "consumer class" ink-pee "printer". :-) The LJ4000d (duplex) does automatically rotate the paper for every \newpage if setup this way (setup in the printer itself), so gs + lpr should work there, too. It can understand PCL and PS. Can you tell me how exactly you combine gs and lpr? Maybe I can get rid of apsfiler (or CUPS, which I refuse to install due to the many dependencies). Only requirement is that printing should work from everywhere (lpr or data piped to lpr). > simply use text mode irc clients like epic or BitchX. I liked the last one, but then switched to X-Chat 1 (with Gtk 1) which was very comfortable. > > Now for mail. Sylpheed has always been a good mail client, > > fast is relative. for me it always been slow. Since switch to Gtk 2, I recognize this. > > to incorporate new mail (from /var/mail, I fetch separately > > via fetchmail) disables its whole GUI for several seconds, > > which is funny as every normal mail clients reads mailbox files directly. > > alpine reads maildir dirs directly, and i use maildir format (through > procmail). I don't have a mail server running on my home desktop, so I get messages through POP3 using fetchmail. Why not through the mail client? Because in the past, I was using different mail clients at the same time for testing, and this was possible due to the fact that all of them could access the same data structures for the messages. Furthermore, fetchmail can get mail periodically, and I don't need to have Thunderbird or the like running all the time to check mail. A little xbiff informs me if something's new. > > The image viewer xzgv, a fine thing, now has problems displaying > > the file and directory icons on the left. Let's say the window > > yes it get broken. no cure for this, i use xv now only. > it's bad, xzgv was useful. I've heared that xnview should be good, but didn't try this out yet. > > bar is [|||---------]. While I keep holding down cursor up > > or cuirsor left, this bar should move [||||||||----] until the > > end of the file. But now, allthough I can hear the sound "move", > > the bar AND the screen content doesn't update, so I could reach > > the file's end without knowing it. And OSD doesn't work anymore, > > but I don't care for this. > > look at port options. i installed mplayer recently, works fine. Is the Makefile.local mechanism still supported? Allthough I'm a big fan of pkg_add -r, mplayer has been one of the few things I always to compile (due to the options). > i use it regularly Me too. > > Whenever I quit some programs (confirmed for: xmms, xzgv), the > > mpg123 is your friend. best ever mp3 player. I always thought madplay is better than mpg123. But I think it doesn't contain rew / ff control via keyboard. > > For a long time, StarOffice 5.2 was my tool of choice when I > > thought I needed something except LaTeX. It didn't matter > > that it brought its own desktop. For some time afterwards, > > versions 1.x of OpenOffice could be installed via pkg_add, > > including the german version. Since 2.x and now with 3.x, > > it seems that compiling it is required. I don't have an > > office package installed at the moment, I think I should > > look if AbiWord can be installed as a german version... > > (I prefer my system to be english-only, with this particular > > piece of software as the only exception.) > > use LyX. Hm, I prefer to "code" LaTeX myself, but I found LyX to be a good tool to suggest to students who wanted to write a thesis that doesn't look like a piece of shit. :-) The reason for an "Office" like program is the ability to read ODF files. (What I like about ODF and OpenOffice's previous file formats: You didn't need the creator program to read the files - they could be unzipped and their content then was XML and image files, readable / viewable with tools of choice.) > > Then, the Midnight Commander has been "improved". The command > > line now includes the full path, and for longer paths, column > > ports/misc/mc-light Will try this, sounds promising. I tried to change the code in MC to NOT show the path in the prompt line, but didn't find it. The stange "subshell pty" error is new, too. Never had this before. > i don't mean old FreeBSD version, but old programs. > > dig out older ports tree and extract needed ports :) If still available? I'm usually using the /etc/sup control files along with "make update" - the old fashioned way. I think I'll try this out. According to the still readable parts of my 5.x hard disk, I will check out which version of XFree86 I used and then give it a try. > which is exactly opposite to unix philosophy, having small program doing > little things but doing it well, and a method to automatically use many > different programs to get your job done. > > i really prefer unix philosophy. Another part of this philosophy is that you can combine these tools, such as by the means of piping of temporary files, so in a "chain" of processing, if something goes wrong, you can inspect every piece in between. > for those who like windoze way of computing, windoze is the best. > > it's really worth spending these few $ on windoze that case. Here in Germany, it's more convenient NOT to pay, but still to use. And "Why should I pay you to work on my computer?" :-) > for "modern" programs there are no computer on which they work fast. Software development is the reason for hardware development is the reason for software development... :-) > Actually there are in a world one PROPERLY coded system with GUI, and > much more. > > It's called AmigaOS. Oh my poor Amiga collection (A500, A600, A1200) cries for reviving! :-) The Amiga was the first usable PC bringing good graphics and stereo audio out of 12V low tension. :-) I read about the AROS project, looks interesting... > As you see - people WANTED crap, that's why Amiga > doesn't really exist anymore for over 10 years. People want crap, they get crap. It's the same story in hardware. Well, you can actually pay lots of money for a brand name, but you get the same short-living stuff as you could get for a discount price. > > Germany: you're voting for the party or the candidate that > > seems to be the smaller evil, allthough everyone knows that > > there are no smaller evils, all are the same. at least in Poland. > I don't think germany is different. Well yes, it's always "worst choice", you notice this right after the election. > Actually all these voting is just to make most people thing that they have > any effect of what will go on and how. they have no effects. "Democracy simulation". That's why less and less people go voting. Our major here in Magdeburg has been elected by 2/3 of the voters, which are 1/3 of the residents of Magdeburg, so it is 2/9, and he's talking about a "majority"... :-) > Those who really rules your/mine country are (with few exceptions) not > those who are elected ;) That's correct. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:34:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA42D106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43568FC1A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95DD16C010F; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:34:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S3Y9RL002425; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:34:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:34:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090128043409.f60e5917.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090128000025.G18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1232945177.32181.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090126130242.F69204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <497DF6A1.3020508@telenix.org> <20090128000025.G18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chuck Robey , Da Rock Subject: Re: Solaris Compat? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:34:13 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:04:33 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > They don't just dumps out potential readers that don't use "the only > right" OS and browser. > > They too - dumps out all disabled people, most importantly blind. > > It's not a problem for a blind to read plain text on computers (there are > LOTS of solutions for this), but navigating in graphics-only manus etc. is > impossible. The HTML standard offers means to accomplish even this: The img tag has the parameters alt= and longdesc= that can be set so the text mode browser shows this text instead of the image. Of couse, it's up to the web developer to use descriptive text, such as the equivalent of the image menu selection in alt= or a description of what you see on an image in longdesc=, but this seems to be too much "old school" for our today's script kiddies who impersonate professional web designers. :-) Following the W3C's standards is always good. They even provide checking software for web pages (HTML and CSS), but "It works for me", said by the web developer, seems to make these excellent tools useless... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:35:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3B410656F3 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46E28FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.171] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EF95C2F44B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:36:53 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090128035716.c0f2f0f1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127232455.X18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090128035716.c0f2f0f1.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:35:05 +1000 Message-Id: <1233113705.1202.79.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:35:39 -0000 On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 03:57 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > "programming environment"? what do you mean? > > Some "heler application" for integration and managing source > files, such as KDevelop, Eclipse or the like. Whether or not it helps others, I'm using netbeans because its very helpful (code completion, auto help dialogs- can be annoying but manageable) in that it reminds me of what else is in a large system of code, and it handles many different languages even when they're all in the same app (php, javascript, java, ruby, etc). I'm working on several different projects to keep things going so I need the flexibility. I know I could probably use emacs and customise, but I can't quite see all that without a lot of hassle. Plus I need to maintain X systems for my users anyway- so why bother fussing? They need a nice, flashy system to work with so the more I use it the better I can tune it to their needs. I deal a lot with users and X, hence my viewpoint on the subject. I also contend with "stuck in a rut"s who refuse to move from a buggy, insecure systems like M$ provides. The most ridiculous situations are when supposedly staunch FOSS administrators are trapped into doing bulk administrative tasks on windows only admin system because (1) the users want something only M$ provides, (2) they can't figure a way to run a suitable alternative on FOSS. Ergo, they're stuck doing a task hundreds of times over because it can't be scripted due to lack of cli. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 03:42:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CFD106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99C18FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7C416C009C; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:42:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S3gpf3002537; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:42:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:42:51 +0100 From: Polytropon To: dfeustel@mindspring.com Message-Id: <20090128044251.21a14bb1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090128030408.5C6C78FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> References: <20090128031855.1d32d79c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090128030408.5C6C78FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:42:59 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 +0000 (UTC), Dave Feustel wrote: > I have gotten very interested in window managers. Earlier tonight > I added links to about 6 non-mainstream window managers, including WindowMaker. > But I still don't understand how the menus of each of these WMs are customized > via .xinitrc, etc. Where can I find that info. I would like to have a > right click menu that would allow me to select a new WM to run with. > Is that possible? I'm not sure I did correctly understand you, so I will try to anwser what I think is the question. In ~/.xinitrc, the window manager's menues aren't controlled. For example for WindiwMaker, its structure is ~/GNUstep for having all the settings. To set menu content in WindowMaker, the Preferences utility can be used, for example, to add other window managers ("switch to other WM"). This would need to be done to every window manager separately because they're not sharing a similar (or the same) configuration data structure. The window manager that will actually be used is the last line, the "exec" line in ~/.xinitrc, such as exec wmaker or exec xfwm I don't know how a display manager like wdm, kdm or gdm allows switching window managers at login time (after X server is run). I think xdm doesn't have such a functionality. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 04:08:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51553106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123DE8FC25 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0S48pge095510 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:08:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:08:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:08:05 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:08:13 -0000 guys, well, i'm ashamed to admit that i've put at least a dozen hours in trying, then re-re-retrying to OCR a imaged pdf file with as many open source ocr packages as i can find. before i quit for supper tonight, i finally threw in the towel. realized than i would have been THROUGH with all 181 pages of the text on Aristotle if i had just read the bloody thing. but anyway, i'm done. there simply is no freeware that runs on a 'nix computer//real computer. so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a 10pt-font file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually hacking, this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is giong to be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR looks best so far to me. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 04:08:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C37106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64288FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1461581qwb.7 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:08:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Vyp4IhOJ74DB89RClz3PvY0TfdVeJEfm21dovp1qtL8=; b=lMT0Sb90xcCQzpcbqUp4WsgXb1rJ2f3DeLitzcpvZKr+B4TZ+GhpFeAK9TUsALxSqI Ezn5Ql0ZccWzIiasFV5HJia2RoLiXlgob9KSVbcxGK17siffxmSWMUrQmvMqF3y6Rkj9 YkhFuCx8yUodY6QctfD/LBNkNzroUHzOFlhBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=UM6FClLuuKjz1Fjye/Gx7Qy2vRl8LGHDZunTf0qK6Lp4gMhWX5PD3IGWZ/SrzQH+5S eUtQQvE6vPEhvLN08VGFh6g5+tar9Fr0cdz/a6Am+OmSwYAUdzBS9P804hkTDkyWreC0 WGC1E/uaJWJU+Pb/2Sr75INNKrZjIvDVhCkOw= Received: by 10.214.217.3 with SMTP id p3mr10210229qag.166.1233115697323; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1498129ywd.52.2009.01.27.20.08.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:08:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:08:12 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128040812.GA7181@phoenix> References: <20090124131926.M40840@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090124131926.M40840@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Subject: Re: flashplugin7 doesn't play video X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:08:18 -0000 Wojciech Puchar said: > youtube-dl from ports is your friend Very true. But unfortunately, there are many sites that overbearingly (and often times hinderingly) use flash for nonsense. Such as banks that play flash videos that hide the login box, etc... -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 04:24:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDC71065672 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E158FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7607116C011C; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:24:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S4OWui003115; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:24:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:24:32 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Da Rock Message-Id: <20090128052432.7fa40b24.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1233113705.1202.79.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127232455.X18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090128035716.c0f2f0f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1233113705.1202.79.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:24:39 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:35:05 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Whether or not it helps others, I'm using netbeans because its very > helpful (code completion, auto help dialogs- can be annoying but > manageable) in that it reminds me of what else is in a large system of > code, and it handles many different languages even when they're all in > the same app (php, javascript, java, ruby, etc). I'm working on several > different projects to keep things going so I need the flexibility. I've been using NetBeans on Solaris for Java development. I found it quite handy within the Solaris enviroment, but I've never tried out PC versions of it. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 04:32:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA62106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD60C8FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5E716C0009; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:32:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S4WNeH003559; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:32:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:32:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Glen Barber Message-Id: <20090128053223.1215a19f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090128040812.GA7181@phoenix> References: <20090124131926.M40840@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090128040812.GA7181@phoenix> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flashplugin7 doesn't play video X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:32:31 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:08:12 -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > Very true. But unfortunately, there are many sites that overbearingly > (and often times hinderingly) use flash for nonsense. Such as banks > that play flash videos that hide the login box, etc... Today, "Flash" is being used for the purposes that animated GIFs have been serving in the past. But with "Flash", you can annoy the user not only with jumping, popping and dancing graphics, but with beeping, boinging and crunching sounds, and furthermore, with lots of annoying and needless interaction. In other words, "Flash" is a replacement for HTML. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 04:41:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C2E106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawnbadger@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEAB8FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawnbadger@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so6882438rvf.43 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:41:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S8vgDDDikIDuLSK4BZJ4KMLgRN0GqzW+wjges5IiPtY=; b=Rtw6BQQLyHHPzuA6nhrk9VUNUGV1RLw67Q7EPa9lj+jYLR33WY6Yvu2LUclUG8uH6J bRi4309jlWw1XMr8+IF5Nj5YCWfZX3JAOrbS6hz7nMgXx6WIn8vMBroLbMkXv3l4br48 LQWd79bx+ZBU9Susv//IJAcpBZjkLsTHOuqSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qKwxpiSV2YgrjTdasWnsMQL8y/j/urDL066K3rLdYcW1J9lWxjY1mfobxuz4NRkhPA IPnHneTeXZKIbKYz1V2Ar1iWAQSv47UKFja3fKhmPNGaVraDlQgt+Y8jtp3pufeH3FA7 DexRjYZE7xmGOKqavihWEI+F0W/IsWjuG+mBg= Received: by 10.142.154.14 with SMTP id b14mr2966600wfe.69.1233117678382; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.132? (69.169.154.48.provo.static.broadweave.net [69.169.154.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm27682270wfc.35.2009.01.27.20.41.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:41:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497FE1A3.3060908@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:40:03 -0700 From: Shawn Badger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> <2F8A37C3-178D-48CB-A17A-CBF6CAD86F60@mac.com> <497FAB99.1050607@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Laptop battery life on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:41:19 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jan 27, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Shawn Badger wrote: >>> Have you tried reducing HZ to 100 (put kern.hz="100" in >>> /boot/loader.conf and reboot)? >>> Are you running powerd? Look into "sysctl hw.acpi" and "sysctl >>> debug.cpufreq".... >>> >> Thanks for the ideas Chuck. I lowered kern.hz to 100 as you >> suggested (does this affect the kernel's ability to track time in >> milliseconds? ie. if I want to run a benchmark using the 'time' >> utility?). > > Changing the scheduler quantum won't affect the system clock or the > ability to do millisecond-level timing of userland processes. It does > affect the granularity of things like ipfw/dummynet if polling is > enabled, but shouldn't have any real negative effects otherwise. > > For most of Unix history, HZ=100 was a common default, and the reduced > context switch frequency should result in a decent improvement to > power drain. If you have a concern, consider comparing against HZ=250 > and see how the battery life and responsiveness or granularity of > network traffic, etc feel.... > Thanks for the info. I'll definitely do some tests and find a good balance. >> And the output of the two sysctl queries is posted here: >> http://pastebin.com/m5ae8aa1c >> >> I'm not very familiar with acpi, so if you see anything that could be >> optimized, I'd appreciate the feedback. > > I have limited experience with running FreeBSD on a laptop personally > [1], so others will likely have more relevant feedback; I'm just aware > of some starting points. :-) > > Regards, -- > -Chuck > > [1]: I've helped a few people run FreeBSD 5.x/6.x on various IBM > ThinkPads (circa T.42s) an maybe an HP Pavillion or Dell Latitude, and > I've run FreeBSD a bit on a Mac mini and a MacBookPro (2,2), but I > don't use FreeBSD on a laptop regularly...I think of it as a server > OS. :-) I too generally think of FreeBSD as a server OS, but I just can't get over how nice the development environment is - hence the laptop. Shawn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 04:43:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7121065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7013D8FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so2204557ele.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:43:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=iFQO6K4hJ1p8Iknc7aaCQZvbelHrKamDJrbuj8EYeYA=; b=uSnVZSg00jRm2jhXZGdqk+wIW6DSw+z/11tO2wBW6kmc36tF0+aK9F3yr8UKBqY8yj lgjrwA6xBvJYGeVDoI6kV0tkkqA+snsONMx6Clz5ALdGMF4jbtIdUK9ZYFP7OFgOxKGR q302JhuGgGElTgo7ABYKqCwv9EzLN0Ev5dj7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=sI4XTE+2/bNW6Ogw4POOG4RBokBfK1xTmCMlEV26Krott4Nl0ktJaCl6Aor+ss+N58 dvs8ys9o1cl6yu4sV0IAqaTe0CPszke6t2U/b2+WLnEaYWpoIBTvL6vT8Etv3u9s04Yg +rzlZBhZGl0D0FayRhsq1UNJ2N7pH1NO+eGxY= Received: by 10.151.7.4 with SMTP id k4mr282604ybi.53.1233117789933; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p33sm3032745elf.8.2009.01.27.20.43.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:43:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:43:06 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090128044306.GC7181@phoenix> References: <20090124131926.M40840@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090128040812.GA7181@phoenix> <20090128053223.1215a19f.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090128053223.1215a19f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flashplugin7 doesn't play video X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:43:11 -0000 Polytropon said: > Today, "Flash" is being used for the purposes that animated GIFs > have been serving in the past. But with "Flash", you can annoy the > user not only with jumping, popping and dancing graphics, but with > beeping, boinging and crunching sounds, and furthermore, with lots > of annoying and needless interaction. In other words, "Flash" is a > replacement for HTML. :-) Well, FWIW, it wouldn't be "my bank" without bouncing and crunching. Certainly not without boinging. ;) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 05:02:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56481065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfb@mr-happy.com) Received: from vexbert.mr-paradox.net (vexbert.mr-paradox.net [IPv6:2001:470:b:28:f::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB39E8FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfb@mr-happy.com) Received: from crow.mr-happy.com (crow.mr-happy.com [10.1.0.2]) by vexbert.mr-paradox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF7584519 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by crow.mr-happy.com (Postfix, from userid 16139) id C19B745020; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:02:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:02:09 -0500 From: Jeff Blank To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128050209.GA31387@mr-happy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Face: #0jV*~a}VtKS-&E/!EJpH('H1Va}24dxF0oT&+.R3Gu8C; xhSC+<|+H84&YLbMvphuRT4cp3.|8EN_(2Eix/6{.Up~u`a^}0Ln&b+9Fw|BPig@-{y\pL_46d&ZwA]5%_AU?}DezfE&1!>H?3E$!Yve7.O<+..Jnb4:'6Ey_]FtFzU9=*l$1p/@gA,Ze>^5<]+r(XJ+m7`/vMDc$'wy|`e Subject: 'ls' output in /sbin/restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:02:11 -0000 Hi, I've noticed that /sbin/restore no longer prints an asterisk next to files/directories marked for extraction. The man page still says the asterisk will be printed, but 7.1-RELEASE and a recent build of 7-STABLE both lack it: # dump L0f - / | restore if - DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Jan 27 23:48:40 2009 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad4s1a (/) to standard output DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 833971 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] restore > ls .: .cshrc boot/ entropy libexec/ proc/ tmp/ .profile cdrom/ etc/ local/ rescue/ ulj/ .snap/ compat@ extra/ media/ root/ usr/ COPYRIGHT dev/ home/ mnt/ sbin/ var/ bin/ dist/ lib/ nvraid/ sys@ restore > add .cshrc .profile bin boot restore > ls .: .cshrc boot/ entropy libexec/ proc/ tmp/ .profile cdrom/ etc/ local/ rescue/ ulj/ .snap/ compat@ extra/ media/ root/ usr/ COPYRIGHT dev/ home/ mnt/ sbin/ var/ bin/ dist/ lib/ nvraid/ sys@ restore > The files I added above do get extracted if I type 'extract'; it seems just a cosmetic change. There was still an asterisk printed in 7.0-RELEASE. Was this removal accidental or intentional? If the latter, why? Just curious. (Apologies if this has been discussed with any frequency anywhere, but various web searches, including http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html, just get me hits related to open-source PBX software.) thanks, Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 05:14:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18152106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmende@optusnet.com.au) Received: from fallbackmx07.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A971D8FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmende@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by fallbackmx07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0S0hDmf027857 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:43:13 +1100 Received: from [192.168.10.12] (c122-106-251-79.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.251.79]) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0S0hAHs021782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:43:11 +1100 Message-Id: <46ADBA2A-2DDF-439A-B6D9-5C82B9AA579A@optusnet.com.au> From: Tom Mende To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:43:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: audio/aureal-kmod - patch-au88x0.c failed to apply cleanly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:14:22 -0000 Good day list; Port worked find on 6.2. Having problems with this port since doing a clean install from CDs to 7.0, further binary upgrade to 7.1 didn't solve the problem. Have removed all exceptions from ports supfiles and fetched and installed clean tree using portsnap without luck vis-a- vis aureal-kmod. I also did the perl-after-update script as I had problems with ports dependant upon perl after updating to 5.8.9. Everything else pretty much works fine. Any help appreciated. Cheers, Tom >uname -mr 7.1-RELEASE-p2 i386 >cat /etc/make.conf CPUTYPE?=pentium3 WITH_CUPS=YES CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES WITHOUT_LPR=YES DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 # added by use.perl 2009-01-18 18:58:05 PERL_VER=5.8.9 PERL_VERSION=5.8.9 /usr/ports/audio/aureal-kmod>make install clean ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found => au88x0-1.5_4.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from http://www.matey.org/au88x0/. au88x0-1.5_4.tar.gz 100% of 212 kB 144 kBps ===> Extracting for aureal-kmod-1.5_6 => MD5 Checksum OK for au88x0-1.5_4.tar.gz. => SHA256 Checksum OK for au88x0-1.5_4.tar.gz. ===> Patching for aureal-kmod-1.5_6 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for aureal-kmod-1.5_6 1 out of 6 hunks failed--saving rejects to au88x0.c.rej => Patch patch-au88x0.c failed to apply cleanly. => Patch(es) patch-10_Makefile patch-20_Makefile patch-30_Makefile patch-Makefile patch-Makefile.inc applied cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/aureal-kmod. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 05:51:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAD7106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maho.nakata@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA9C8FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maho.nakata@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so2945516qba.35 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:51:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:message-id:to:cc :subject:from:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ijxTexv2fzOA4Tn9jXO0K130U010/Oj6Yi5ezlAuB7Q=; b=N1c442E2F/LESAogyGumr2TBkvyoTcj8vYUqkcU1PPQEAyiHtmUfBFglReo6uyEQ/2 3tlfObZUlqHb99kXYRvQXSqgg+Quj/ECA9SaPITGSuHbJ1/gHHFl/ELBPMmobL4802ua gnny2MX/EcIlWq+wq1mRnfhxBn4rVWrAPegXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:message-id:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vy6N7z7MmUeEGpx7kXjJnB8xqPFPAMY0MBLaZ5r1XCj9UvRsx4lsY/ZKRGDnr4TS4Z sYv/0/YN8drkRFG+fuKIF8BwfSkh183O+FxLhM+ZkgrYfH0x9nKocbwvdSrI2DL3KYCC jYEqUaYV6wJB3IO96heMS09RLGMqKhj5XAZa4= Received: by 10.142.217.17 with SMTP id p17mr484596wfg.109.1233120850146; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rikad85.riken.jp [134.160.214.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm501130wfg.48.2009.01.27.21.34.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:34:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: Maho NAKATA Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:33:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20090128.143340.242134838.chat95@mac.com> To: sebastiansetzer@alice-dsl.net From: Maho NAKATA In-Reply-To: <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F6@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> References: <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F5@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F6@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kurt.buff@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, openoffice@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:51:02 -0000 From: Sebastian Setzer Subject: RE: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:51:14 +0100 > Thanks, > with diablo 1.6 it works. > > To the openoffice porting team: > Could you please mention this on http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/? > This page says "We support only Java 1.5" Sorry I must update this page. 1.5 and 1.6 are supported. [sorry again. i don't read your e-mails. just replied with my 5 seconds...] > The problem with the macro securitylevel dialog wasn't solved by the working java, though. > But I found a workaround on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244917 > (and other sites, after I knew that I must search for MacroSecurityLevel and Common.xcu): > insert the following into openoffice.org/3/user/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Common.xcu > > > > > 1 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff > Sent: Thu 1/22/2009 9:54 PM > To: Sebastian Setzer > Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #7: > Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > $ pkg_info | grep java > javavmwrapper-2.3.2 Wrapper script for various Java Virtual Machines > $ pkg_info | grep jdk > diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_3 Java Development Kit 1.6.0_07.02 > $ pkg_info | grep -i openoffice > openoffice.org-3.0.0 Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/br > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sebastian Setzer > wrote: >> Hi, >> On 64-bit FreeBSD 7, I installed these two packages: >> OOo_3.0.0_FreeBSD71X86-64_install_de.tbz >> diablo-caffe-freebsd6-amd64-1.5.0_07-b01.tar.bz2 >> When I run OOo, it prints >> javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! >> Is diablo the wrong java 1.5 JDK? >> >> I didn't expect to need java - I just wantet to use StarBasic Macros. >> But OOo seems to need it. I can't even set the Macro security options (when I press the button, nothing happens). >> >> Sebastian >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-openoffice > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-openoffice-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 06:10:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65011065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7470E8FC23 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EE81901D; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:10:03 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:10:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:09:56 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Shawn Badger Message-ID: <20090128060956.0c164685@gluon> In-Reply-To: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> References: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop battery life on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:10:05 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:19:31 -0700 Shawn Badger wrote: > Hi, I recently installed FreeBSD 7.1 on my laptop, replacing Arch > Linux and I noticed a significant drop in my battery life (from ~3 > hours to ~1.5 hours). I realize that Linux has their "tickless" > kernel, which I am sure explains the difference, but my question > is... is there anything I can do in FreeBSD right now to improve > this? And is there going to be any work done the kernel to allow the > hardware to enter into a low-power state for an extended period of > time? > > My laptop is an Acer Travelmate 4100 which has the following hardware: > - Pentium M 1.6 GHz processer > - 2 GB RAM > - integrated video/sound > - 802.11bg / bluetooth > > I'm somewhat of a minimalist and don't use X11. I've disabled the > bluetooth adapter, but frequently use my wireless adapter (intel > pro/2200bg). Does anyone have any suggestions that could potentially > extend my battery life? powerd isn't run by default, so the laptop will always be running at maximum frequency. By putting powerd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf the CPU will throttle back whenever the system is idle. You can also tell FreeBSD to enter lower Cx states when idle by setting dev.cpu.x.cx_lowest, if it's supported. For example my VIA EPIA system has the following dev.cpu tree: > sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.freq: 533 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 533/-1 266/-1 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 C2/90 C3/900 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 06:29:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AC41065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBE08FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so377048fga.35 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:29:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YMmK6SicKsmfNS46wHwQEyu0O2YhhgSjGDgooZyhS7M=; b=tVcpPIvOcRIhGNOi7k6ot9VtxWnTQKhA0D2i/5BGLTeoTfDflYK9wAdr1g/q2/MrbZ m/bS34ssSB8VSQJR/5twatka2iEB1NutRLj135VbM2/X3VVzWa3ruOXf9R3xG1UWDhmt uKSbidIdXgDrdjBcUArkyCtaqHKtlMBcLipgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Qtz3/0qm+IU91D0tthXjRHy1YIHRlzOGRX2YvR870FQ8UorqdaQXVopSeh6o6bkvLD NXqXXCHESXgv/6HBNh0YM7R1DOeCjQSFm5bYFzJOB/TSJdSXVtGcaPHiiNzpKusB06o4 iJibLYk10wTz1lGLhtuq8YFTLpxLErmoikI6Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.106.68 with SMTP id w4mr932349fao.20.1233124193803; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:29:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:29:53 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400901272229i550b9003w12ae146c1d010a97@mail.gmail.com> From: Mamlookie To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:29:55 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a > number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It > worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands > working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new > FreeBSD6.3 system. > > If I can't figure out what is wrong or whether it is > worth fixing, I am going to have to find some other archiver so > we can get good backups and trust them to be easily restored. I just stumbled upon BackupPC yesterday, so I amnot sure how good it can be because I haven't had time to test, but nothing stops you from looking at it, now that you are after a solution. Please see http://backuppc.sourceforge.net PS: If you do test it out, please come back and tell us what you feel about it. I personally will appreciate the feedback, even if to my personal address. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 06:33:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6AE106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawnbadger@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9148FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawnbadger@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so7272165wfg.7 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:33:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XWKZKFsZ66LqpUtPsush8VG6OfJaJMorFz2ormL8uRU=; b=jsbWeeqszYEV73T8x628mY8zbhMlVEGhqYtf2w16iSzPBxiOnAcKb4o1EDErVnn7sx CWstsGVZLhH/9A5VcdlEZBL3Gm3/KijJMdHbce58oyX85b9b99n6i4oY0CH6VtYT632P FTEU9Cc60h/rfX7WZzUokm8tVshmGy7C3nN40= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xxf/Wg6QbhV9hi6VEpCFHzqYwfDv4XBHiViij4JM3KLB2zsAX8XBkLRxHAPwkvBLAJ 6yRxtcT3Ub0ou+4hV3mqWw4hEb7eInLJLnNOO5hofre6gcSppOahdt/hJzqfMwEBgLv3 J2BbigeozhQcFxpgVlb2N9JAAVMexSNfc31VY= Received: by 10.142.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr290517wff.21.1233124405760; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:33:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.132? (69.169.154.48.provo.static.broadweave.net [69.169.154.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm34802636wfi.58.2009.01.27.22.33.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:33:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497FFBEA.1040102@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:32:10 -0700 From: Shawn Badger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) To: Bruce Cran References: <497F9683.3080905@gmail.com> <20090128060956.0c164685@gluon> In-Reply-To: <20090128060956.0c164685@gluon> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop battery life on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:33:26 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:19:31 -0700 Shawn Badger [1] wrote: Hi, I recently installed FreeBSD 7.1 on my laptop, replacing Arch Linux and I noticed a significant drop in my battery life (from ~3 hours to ~1.5 hours). I realize that Linux has their "tickless" kernel, which I am sure explains the difference, but my question is... is there anything I can do in FreeBSD right now to improve this? And is there going to be any work done the kernel to allow the hardware to enter into a low-power state for an extended period of time? My laptop is an Acer Travelmate 4100 which has the following hardware: - Pentium M 1.6 GHz processer - 2 GB RAM - integrated video/sound - 802.11bg / bluetooth I'm somewhat of a minimalist and don't use X11. I've disabled the bluetooth adapter, but frequently use my wireless adapter (intel pro/2200bg). Does anyone have any suggestions that could potentially extend my battery life? powerd isn't run by default, so the laptop will always be running at maximum frequency. By putting powerd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf the CPU will throttle back whenever the system is idle. You can also tell FreeBSD to enter lower Cx states when idle by setting dev.cpu.x.cx_lowest, if it's supported. For example my VIA EPIA system has the following dev.cpu tree: sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.freq: 533 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 533/-1 266/-1 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 C2/90 C3/900 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% 0.00% My processor now throttles down to 100 MHz when idle and my fan no longer blows like crazy - this is exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks, Shawn References 1. mailto:shawnbadger@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 07:12:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8220F1065672 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5869F8FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd7ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.161]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 23:44:07 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=yPt6q2rsAAAA:8 a=ZEcDIKJQI0IztKDZmFQA:9 a=xBMft_jEWcvdFtT4zcQA:7 a=9MK5CNq_4ST5BvHTA0Xt0wiacVQA:4 a=nnAykRNK7500gLCkwmIA:9 a=akWsfVn36sKEcTrsxyUA:7 a=zE0iXpT6dYDF9lS140OzIlLCZr4A:4 a=-5zMTHQtpVcA:10 a=pEYuAFZ7GsoA:10 Received: from s0106000f3d63c5a5.vc.shawcable.net (HELO [10.54.6.21]) ([24.84.182.173]) by pd7ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 23:44:07 -0700 Message-ID: <497FFEB7.3000205@shaw.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:44:07 -0800 From: Graham North User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cups raw printing - client print queue sticking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:12:06 -0000 I have cups set up on a FreeBSD server to receive raw queues from windows clients on my home network. It is being used indepently of Samba. Access is invoked directly with http - http://xx.yy.zz.ww:631/printers/lex312raw . The printer is an elderly Lexmark 312L. The printer prints fine from 3 different WinXP clients - except the windows print queue does not clear properly. Basically, I set up the printer via the cups gui interface and all works well but the windows print manager queue sticks. The queue permanently shows status of "processing" . Interestingly, I can print multiple print jobs and only one job remains permanently stuck. Which could/may mean that each new job clears the "processing" status of the last job..?? Each subsequent job prints fine, test pages, images, files all seem to work but the Windows print manager doesn't clear. Seems like a final handshake going wrong..? Could this be a client side setting? Thanks for any advice out there. Graham/ -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 07:41:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD28106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B5C8FC1E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LS53Y-00065F-Fo; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:41:52 +1100 From: Warren Liddell Organization: Blackthorn PTY LTD To: craig001@lerwick.hopto.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:41:54 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) References: <200901281017.10613.shinjii@maydias.com> <1472.192.168.0.146.1233102350.squirrel@lerwick.hopto.org> In-Reply-To: <1472.192.168.0.146.1233102350.squirrel@lerwick.hopto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281741.55134.shinjii@maydias.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programs loading but sitting in limbo whilst not displaying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:41:54 -0000 > Hi Warren > > I also had this problem, I resolved it by; > portupgrade -Rf firefox > > My understanding is that this goes and forcibly builds all of the ports > that firefox depends on, then firefox itself. > > If you run the commands with truss it will give you some debug information > on what it is getting stuck on. > > Kind Regards > > Craig Butler Thanks, i did this and everything works fine now, guess something in the packagaes got a bit screwd around somewhere. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 07:42:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7A7106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167A68FC20 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0S7h4Ze097134; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:42:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:42:18 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090128074218.GA480@thought.org> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090128031855.1d32d79c.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090128031855.1d32d79c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:42:40 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:18:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +0000, RW wrote: > > IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a > > keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. > > Well, I found this a problem, too, but very early recognized that > there are window managers that can actually combine keyboard AND > mouse control at a very user-friendly level. Such a window manager > is WindowMaker. > > It can even utilize the keys on the left of a Sun Type 6 keyboard > for window manager functions (front, back, roll up, hide, full- > screen etc.) which "the big DEs" can't. > > What I don't like personally about "the big DEs" is their way of > handling windows through the means of the mouse. You're forced > to click on tiny buttons, and if you enlarge the control buttons, > you end up with uselessly wasting screen space. In WindowMaker, > there are many operations that don't force me to first move the > mouse to a certain place and THEN do the operation I want. This > makes windowing operations, especially in operations context, > very fast and easily. > > So professional window managing isn't about minimalism only. There > are other window managers that can provide effects and "bells > and whistles" very efficiently, if you think you need them. > But, of course, they're not "mainstream". > BUT: do things i _use_ from kde and gnome work with other wm's? if memory serves, i had lots of troubles using kttsd with my favorite manager, ctwm. (i used ctwm for -years- before i finally upgraded to a powerful enough computer and switched.) i use simple cli stuff for most things, kde/gnome when i need it. and i'm sticking with kde3 until kde4 is 1) stable and complete, and 2), IFF it has something worth switching over for. that's my two cent's worth:) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 07:51:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5764106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210D68FC21 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0S7pJCC072280; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:51:21 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:51:19 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Sebastian Mellmann In-Reply-To: <58305.62.206.221.107.1233071856.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> Message-ID: <20090128183250.O86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <58305.62.206.221.107.1233071856.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:51:23 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Sebastian Mellmann wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: [..] > > 00060: 192.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 30 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > > 0 tcp 192.168.0.64/1032 207.46.106.36/1863 1847947 563209421 0 > > 0 141 > > 00070: 3.072 Mbit/s 0 ms 40 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > > 0 tcp 207.46.106.36/1863 192.168.0.64/1032 2438211 3075075035 0 > > 0 4550 > > > > It's nearly all streaming rather than more interactive traffic, so > > pipe latency isn't so much of a concern. Anyway, I rarely actually > > catch any traffic still in-queue, which you can stare at for tuning. Just for reference re KES' message re ping times with a full queue: we only put established TCP traffic through these pipes; ICMP always, and UDP so far - unless/until it becomes an issue - are free-flowing here. > > Also, that's aggregate traffic, not per IP as with your masks (which > > look maybe wider than necessary, 0x0000ffff covers a /16) so you may > > wind up with lots of separate queues sharing a pipe, which may look > > very different. How many hosts, how much memory to spare for each? > > > Is there any chance to get the dropped packets for _each_ queue (e.g. > logged to a file for further investigation)? > Does ipfw provide something here? I don't know, I've only seen 'ipfw pipe show' results here. If you have numbered queues specified too, I guess 'ipfw queue show' would be what to try; if that's any use you could append results to a file/s by cron? > I'm mainly doing experiments with different kinds of settings (bandwidth > limitations, variable delay, dropped packets probability etcpp.) and I > want to see how many packets are actually dropped by ipfw. Happy experimenting .. soon you'll be the expert we can all consult :) If you want to get deeper into it, freebsd-net is the appropriate list. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 08:15:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4E31065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABED08FC1A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp13.yandex.ru (smtp13.yandex.ru [77.88.32.83]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6677A4C59C8; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:15:21 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 254-0-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.0.254]:19460 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S5980285AbZA1IPS (ORCPT + 2 others); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:15:18 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp13 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233130518 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 3 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp13.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:15:16 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5510133465.20090128101516@yandex.ru> To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20090128183250.O86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <58305.62.206.221.107.1233071856.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> <20090128183250.O86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Sebastian Mellmann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:15:24 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Ian. May be this will be usefull for you #1. ping -D -S 10.10.16.16 -s 1472 -i 0.01 10.0.16.1 #2. ping -S 10.10.16.17 10.0.16.1 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 111 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #Put each flow to different pipes #1 do not affect 2. Each flow goes through its own pipe. #c add 10 pipe 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 pipe 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c pipe 1 config bw 64k mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c pipe 2 config bw 64k mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #00001: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 2 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0xffffffff/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 40 ip 10.10.16.17/0 0.0.0.0/0 10 840 0 0 0 # 44 ip 10.10.16.19/0 0.0.0.0/0 1143 1714500 49 73500 1030 0 #00002: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 2 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0xffffffff/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 5 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.17/0 10 840 0 0 0 # 7 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.19/0 64 96000 1 1500 0 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 222 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #Put each flow to the same pipe. #1 affect 2. There are packets drop as for 1 as for 2 #c add 10 pipe 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 pipe 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c pipe 1 config bw 64k mask src-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c pipe 2 config bw 64k mask dst-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #00001: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 icmp 10.10.16.17/0 10.0.16.1/0 879 1159908 49 70668 293 #00002: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 icmp 10.0.16.1/0 10.10.16.17/0 537 706380 1 1500 0 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 333 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #Put each flow to same queue. # 1 affect 2. There is drops for 1 and 99% drop for 2. #c add 10 queue 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 queue 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c pipe 1 config bw 64k mask src-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c pipe 2 config bw 64k mask dst-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 1 config pipe 1 mask src-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 2 config pipe 2 mask dst-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #00001: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #00002: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #q00001: weight 1 pipe 1 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 icmp 10.10.16.19/0 10.0.16.1/0 40854 61184712 0 0 40241 #q00002: weight 1 pipe 2 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 icmp 10.0.16.1/0 10.10.16.19/0 613 909588 0 0 0 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 444 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #!Put each flow to different queue. These queues share same pipe #1 affect 2. There are packets drop for 1 and no drops for 2. There is only dellay for 2. #c add 10 queue 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 queue 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c pipe 1 config bw 64k mask src-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c pipe 2 config bw 64k mask dst-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 1 config pipe 1 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 2 config pipe 2 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #00001: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #00002: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #q00001: weight 1 pipe 1 50 sl. 2 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0xffffffff/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 40 ip 10.10.16.17/0 0.0.0.0/0 371 31164 0 0 0 # 44 ip 10.10.16.19/0 0.0.0.0/0 17422 26133000 0 0 16175 #q00002: weight 1 pipe 2 50 sl. 2 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0xffffffff/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 5 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.17/0 371 31164 0 0 0 # 7 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.19/0 1247 1870500 0 0 0 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 555 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #Put each flow to same queue. These queues share same pipe (see conclusion) # 1 affect 2. There is drops for 1 and 99% drop for 2. # Results are same as for experiment 3. # Conclusion: mask for pipe does not take account on queue #c add 10 queue 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 queue 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c pipe 1 config bw 64k mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c pipe 2 config bw 64k mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 1 config pipe 1 mask src-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 2 config pipe 2 mask dst-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #00001: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #00002: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #q00001: weight 1 pipe 1 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 icmp 10.10.16.19/0 10.0.16.1/0 1030 1447296 0 0 800 #q00002: weight 1 pipe 2 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 icmp 10.0.16.1/0 10.10.16.19/0 230 254376 0 0 0 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 666 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #Put each flow to different queue. These queues share same pipe #1 affect 2. There are packets drop for 1 and no drops for 2. There is only dellay for 2. #Conclusion: mask for pipe does not take account on queue #c add 10 queue 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 queue 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c pipe 1 config bw 64k mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c pipe 2 config bw 64k mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 1 config pipe 1 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 2 config pipe 2 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #00001: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #00002: 64.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #q00001: weight 1 pipe 1 50 sl. 2 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0xffffffff/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 ip 10.10.16.19/0 0.0.0.0/0 4379 6568500 50 75000 4098 # 0 ip 10.10.16.17/0 0.0.0.0/0 122 10248 0 0 0 #q00002: weight 1 pipe 2 50 sl. 2 queues (1 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0xffffffff/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 0 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.19/0 158 237000 0 0 0 # 0 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.17/0 86 7224 0 0 0 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 777 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #We can not add queue without pipe =(. So if you want just queuing add pipe without 'bw' #c add 10 queue 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 queue 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c queue 1 config mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 2 config mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 888 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #Put flows to different queues #1 does not affect 2. #c add 10 queue 1 proto icmp out xmit nfe0 #c add 11 queue 2 proto icmp in recv nfe0 #c pipe 1 config mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c pipe 2 config mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 1 config pipe 1 mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #c queue 2 config pipe 2 mask dst-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 #00001: unlimited 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #00002: unlimited 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 #q00001: weight 1 pipe 1 50 sl. 2 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0xffffffff/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 40 ip 10.10.16.17/0 0.0.0.0/0 39 3276 0 0 0 # 44 ip 10.10.16.19/0 0.0.0.0/0 3805 5707500 0 0 0 #q00002: weight 1 pipe 2 50 sl. 2 queues (64 buckets) # GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 # mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0xffffffff/0x0000 #BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # 5 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.17/0 27 2268 0 0 0 # 7 ip 0.0.0.0/0 10.10.16.19/0 3198 4797000 0 0 0 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### # 999 ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- ### --- #### #Put flows to same queues #1 does not affect 2. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 09:17:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167B9106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FC98FC24 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0S9H720024146; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0S9H684024143; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090128042954.90cdb848.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090128100117.X23975@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127234024.Q18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090128042954.90cdb848.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:17:32 -0000 > > I didn't know links had agraphics mode... time to checkt this > out! start with -g option, of course select X11 support on port config > >> well i have laserjet 4 and use ghostscript+lpr. can't help you. > > I still have a Laserjet 4 (my first printer), I got it as a > present, never treated it kindly (printed VERY much), and it's > still working. It's more than 15 years old now, mind this, or that's why i bought it for ca 50$ USED, already had 86000 pages printed, and i printed about 35000. All you have to do is to lubricate with oil some parts every half a year or so, when it starts to have problem with paper jamming. i once printed 2500 pages at once - all i had to do was to put paper. You can even swap toner cardridge on the fly. There are polish-produced replacement cardridges that costs 35$ for 10000 pages. With this printer the highest cost is a paper ;) > better, try this with a "consumer class" ink-pee "printer". :-) > it's crap don't use it. > The LJ4000d (duplex) does automatically rotate the paper for > every \newpage if setup this way (setup in the printer itself), > so gs + lpr should work there, too. It can understand PCL and PS. > Can you tell me how exactly you combine gs and lpr? Maybe I can in /etc/printcap lp|lokalna::sh:if=/etc/ifhp:lp=/dev/lpt0:df=/etc/hpdf:sd=/var/spool/output/lo:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: your /etc/ifhp script should be a filter converting input to whatever your printer handles - PCL5 in my case i use ghostscript. mine looks like this (sligtly modified example): #!/bin/sh # # ifhp - Print Ghostscript-simulated PostScript on a DesJet 500 # Installed in /usr/local/libexec/hpif # # Treat LF as CR+LF: # printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2 # # Read first two characters of the file # read first_line first_two_chars=`expr "$first_line" : '\(..\)'` if [ "$first_two_chars" = "%!" ]; then # # It is PostScript; use Ghostscript to scan-convert and print it # /usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - \ && exit 0 else # # Plain text or HP/PCL, so just print it directly; print a form # at the end to eject the last page. # echo "$first_line" && cat && printf "\f" && exit 0 fi exit 2 > >> simply use text mode irc clients like epic or BitchX. > > I liked the last one, but then switched to X-Chat 1 (with Gtk 1) > which was very comfortable. you have strange definition of comfort ;) >>> to incorporate new mail (from /var/mail, I fetch separately >>> via fetchmail) disables its whole GUI for several seconds, >> >> which is funny as every normal mail clients reads mailbox files directly. >> >> alpine reads maildir dirs directly, and i use maildir format (through >> procmail). > > I don't have a mail server running on my home desktop, so I get you don't have to use alpine. it access maildir files directly. > messages through POP3 using fetchmail. that's good. >> look at port options. i installed mplayer recently, works fine. > > Is the Makefile.local mechanism still supported? Allthough I'm a > big fan of pkg_add -r, mplayer has been one of the few things I > always to compile (due to the options). no idea all i did was to do make configure then make install >>> Whenever I quit some programs (confirmed for: xmms, xzgv), the >> >> mpg123 is your friend. best ever mp3 player. > > I always thought madplay is better than mpg123. But I think it i used mpg123 on 160Mhz 486 and it used ca 50% CPU at full quality. i don't know any player that needs less CPU power. >>> (I prefer my system to be english-only, with this particular >>> piece of software as the only exception.) >> >> use LyX. > > Hm, I prefer to "code" LaTeX myself, but I found LyX to be a > good tool to suggest to students who wanted to write a thesis > that doesn't look like a piece of shit. :-) so use latex :) personally i use both. >> >> ports/misc/mc-light > > Will try this, sounds promising. I tried to change the code in MC definitely try this. it contains only those part of mc that are actually useful. >> different programs to get your job done. >> >> i really prefer unix philosophy. > > Another part of this philosophy is that you can combine these tools, > such as by the means of piping of temporary files, so in a "chain" > of processing, if something goes wrong, you can inspect every piece > in between. indeed >> it's really worth spending these few $ on windoze that case. > > Here in Germany, it's more convenient NOT to pay, but still to use. > And "Why should I pay you to work on my computer?" :-) that's wrong. You should pay or not use it. You should fight software piracy. Not because it's bad, but because it's the best microsoft friend. Without piracy microsoft wouldn't exist today at all. >> much more. >> >> It's called AmigaOS. > > Oh my poor Amiga collection (A500, A600, A1200) cries for reviving! :-) You have fully-working windowing system, OS, disk system, filesystem, microkernel etc. etc. with 512KB ROM and <100kB RAM running damn fast on few mips. > The Amiga was the first usable PC bringing good graphics and stereo > audio out of 12V low tension. :-) > > I read about the AROS project, looks interesting... sadly but it's crap actually. try www.natami.net >> As you see - people WANTED crap, that's why Amiga >> doesn't really exist anymore for over 10 years. > > People want crap, they get crap. It's the same story in hardware. Well, exactly. so let they get what they like, but stay away from it. > you can actually pay lots of money for a brand name, but you get the > same short-living stuff as you could get for a discount price. since few years - it's true. That's for those who like "high-end" crap ;) >> I don't think germany is different. > > Well yes, it's always "worst choice", you notice this right after > the election. definitely. > > "Democracy simulation". That's why less and less people go voting. i don't vote since 4 years. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 09:36:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9195D1065672 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234C98FC1B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id n0S9afSp023124 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:36:41 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5463F89D1F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:36:40 +0100 (CET) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 1D0C051; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:36:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:36:37 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20090128093637.GA66404@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.164]); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:36:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8914/Wed Jan 28 07:40:00 2009 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 49802729.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 49802729.004/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 49802729.004 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.046 -> S=0.046 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Cc: Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:36:43 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > well, i'm ashamed to admit that i've put at least a dozen hours in > trying, then re-re-retrying to OCR a imaged pdf file with as many > open source ocr packages as i can find. I have seen good results with tesseract which is in the ports and free. Otherwise with OmniPage for commercial software (it runs under wine). -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 09:53:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2C1106567B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBE98FC1F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB4B16C00C7; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:53:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0S9r1Xa004763; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:53:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:53:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090128105301.33618aac.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090128100117.X23975@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127234024.Q18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090128042954.90cdb848.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090128100117.X23975@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:53:10 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:06 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > that's why i bought it for ca 50$ USED, already had 86000 pages printed, > and i printed about 35000. On my printer, the page counter has stuck / turned over and does show that approx. 1500 pages have been printed. Hey, I could sell it with the description of "very few pages printed, just like new". :-) > All you have to do is to lubricate with oil some parts every half a year > or so, when it starts to have problem with paper jamming. And buy some replacement for 60 Euro. Yes, I invested that much to get this old friend running again. > You can even swap toner cardridge on the fly. > There are polish-produced replacement cardridges that costs 35$ for 10000 > pages. That's not much and a good deal. Original HP toner is approx. 100 Euro, formerly it was 120 DM. > > better, try this with a "consumer class" ink-pee "printer". :-) > > > it's crap don't use it. I know... my dad thought he was clever and bought the printer I told him NOT to buy. Some months later, he asked me if I could repair a printer... :-) > i used mpg123 on 160Mhz 486 and it used ca 50% CPU at full quality. > i don't know any player that needs less CPU power. Apropos 160MHz... I'd like to tell a story that is completely true, and it makes me wonder whenever I hear users of uber-powerful hardware, "tons of Megs", huge hard disks and two-fan GPUs start complaining that they have "skipping audio" in their KDE / Gnome programs... I don't get this. With all the power of today's computer, this cannot be. When a P1 150MHz, 64 MB RAM, 3dFX GPU, 6,4 GB HDD was my first FreeBSD system (4.x), I did ALL AT THE SAME TIME: 1. download some ISO via FTP 2. burn another ISO onto CD (Mitsumi 4x recorder) 3. compile something 4. browse the web with still responsive Opera and finally 5. listen to NON-SKIPPING MP3s. It's not a lie, I really DID THIS. And I have this machine here, it will be turned into an experimental server soon. > >> ports/misc/mc-light > > > > Will try this, sounds promising. I tried to change the code in MC > > definitely try this. it contains only those part of mc that are actually > useful. I hope the mcedit with syntax highlighting belongs to that. I spent some time getting the syntax color definitions acceptable as well as creating new ones. In fact, I like the MC editor. > >> it's really worth spending these few $ on windoze that case. > > > > Here in Germany, it's more convenient NOT to pay, but still to use. > > And "Why should I pay you to work on my computer?" :-) > > that's wrong. You should pay or not use it. Many "Windows" users that I know do use a pirated copy of "the good XP" or something else. No idea how they get it running without product key, maybe cracked versions. I never had any situation when to think: "Well, I need 'Windows' now.", and I don't think I have a system that is supported. So I'll keep clean. :-) > You should fight software piracy. Not because it's bad, but because it's > the best microsoft friend. I like this one: http://razzor.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/open_source_communism.jpg Software pirates of "Windows" get always punished because they have to use what they pirated, that's punishment enough, as well as all the fine viruses (virii), trojans, worms, the nice spyware, the malware, the bloat and the time they spend re-installing everything. :-) The downside is that everyone else gets punished, too, or what do you think more than 90% of the e-mail transferred today is spam? > Without piracy microsoft wouldn't exist today at all. That's the reason for the big "usage share" (like "market share") of the many different "Windows" (and people keep complaining about many different Linux distributions). Funny picture on this: http://beconfused.com/images/2007/01/the-joy-of-tech-the-many-editions-of-windows-vista.jpg I'm always happy that "Windows" is NOT a topic to me. > > "Democracy simulation". That's why less and less people go voting. > > i don't vote since 4 years. I don't know how the voting system is in Poland, but I think not going to vote is the wrong way. The German voting system leaves you three choices: 1. You vote for a party, this party's votings increase by 1. 2. You don't go to vote. Your voting is associated to the party that already has the most votings (relatively). So not going to vote supports the big parties. 3. You go to vote, but give an invalid voting, either by not making any mark, or marking all parties, or striking them through (that's what I do to express that I don't want any on them). I had the idea that the voting system should be inverted. Instead of giving a voting to a party, parties are marked as "denied". The more a party is denied, the less good it is, because at a certain point, the party will be disassembled or forbidden. So we would get rid of all those self-claimed "representatives" very fast. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 10:18:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816AC106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACC78FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2578A1CC78; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:08:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YxDTTh4yUUIg; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:08:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from rivendell (a88-114-134-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.114.134.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2746B1CC73; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:08:25 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:08:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 Cc: Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:18:41 -0000 > so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a 10pt-font > file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually hacking, > this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is giong=20 > to > be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR=20 > looks > best so far to me. AABBYY Finereader - Omnipage haven't been able to catch it in several=20 years either feature or qualitywise. No idea if Finereader runs under=20 emulator though. If the file is already a PDF and 72 DPI with text as=20 graphics most of the damage has already been done, and it will be=20 extremely hard to OCR. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 11:32:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785B0106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080548FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so464260fga.35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:32:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gl4CJEwrDLWIeiDNBc9kaT5fUUuPiQJitPW97w+kU3E=; b=etYhcsIM7T8nLAfBBNy9jQmd8cuCf/ospFDCIQUTwlnSR/1eZCupmbthINBIe9iZOH NjVjaxNEm8VWDaACT2NonNE+CHaVvJ/iPTqKDlkNqi4faU5rqFmredrLDth/ytOrsuZ0 lazERCqy6aWBU2hnVVjsDeFxvoZBTgwA3VAYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=yGJGzBai4BpiySw5c/QtqQK//FhWUYExQlBRGJ/G+F+YzA4+VBabjLTSMonhXLflAf rXwiOCmwpcZKa1TupjTnsxAFsCHkekMTy6do+VAIKZmM9OAOCg/i+qikYqNelkf3Lr2D 3fDiD1edZhWpzkg3ZAJE/Mmto+2jypytadE3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.6 with SMTP id l6mr1020654fap.53.1233142376679; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:32:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:32:56 +0100 Message-ID: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:32:58 -0000 Hello, I would like to confirm the steps required to upgrade a 7.0 system with a custom kernel to 7.1 so many thanks for all suggestions! 1/ Back up /etc (of course backups are regularly done, but based on what I saw on the list I think such a backup just prior to upgrade may be quite beneficial) # cp -pR /etc/ /etc-7.0 2/ Go for the upgrade and merge files (if any) # freebsd-update -r 7.1-RELEASE upgrade 3/ Install the updates # freebsd-update install 4/ Reboot with a GENERIC kernel (I do have it) # nextboot -k GENERIC 5/ Reboot with a custom kernel # shutdown -r now 6/ Finish the update process # freebsd-update install 7/ Recompile the custom kernel # cd /usr/src # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 8/ Final reboot # shutdown -r now I was told earlier that 7.0 -> 7.1 journey is a minor one and so I do not need to rebuild all the ports. Is that correct? Once again, many thanks for your advice! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 12:07:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09B21065687 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DD58FC1B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7032055rvf.43 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:07:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VYTQmF2FJX6hxkm8yu3Lrz7BiY2bSBzeWaH1XBWylTI=; b=cGx4/el3QESOqfm1QgWa/t0y5xLWATlgDI9KfwZrNh3buii8BsjMZpoCunjiu9TNpt rA1oUm6vd/FXiZhI+nspr8pgcByAV/EbOmj6KDc5Ly7pGY0L/PTuKTgBzVW1HLK1WYNI R9g9lL9aFpKRdxib37O5TN0xaJMtzFThDos1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vPDpWLqQxiZLWosiWon5dZAqh2BdBAGyENRu/0RJGRw+/PBxFeaK1Xq6cgJE7wv1dH yz2wn8lSpZtjJhS36rahS3Vq6c7k/XNPePbKlO/bq10gPBE8udWCQLQtSNbVEviNC0Mb j5JCOybuerGRUaXk8Ys1YcF52fzpt+ZIaVP3o= Received: by 10.140.143.11 with SMTP id q11mr2097865rvd.104.1233144441836; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.4.70? (c-68-35-57-46.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.57.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21sm36722441rvb.7.2009.01.28.04.07.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:07:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49804A92.904@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:07:57 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to confirm the steps required to upgrade a 7.0 system > with a custom kernel to 7.1 so many thanks for all suggestions! > > 1/ Back up /etc (of course backups are regularly done, but based on > what I saw on the list I think such a backup just prior to upgrade may > be quite beneficial) > # cp -pR /etc/ /etc-7.0 > > 2/ Go for the upgrade and merge files (if any) > # freebsd-update -r 7.1-RELEASE upgrade > > 3/ Install the updates > # freebsd-update install > > 4/ Reboot with a GENERIC kernel (I do have it) > # nextboot -k GENERIC Make sure freebsd-update downloads the GENERIC kernel. it typically leaves it completely alone when asked to update/upgrade a system with a custom kernel. Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. So because of this, you might want to: download CVS source make buildkernel; freebsd-update -r 7.1-RELEASE upgrade; freebsd-update install; make installkernel; > 5/ Reboot with a custom kernel > # shutdown -r now > > 6/ Finish the update process > # freebsd-update install > > 7/ Recompile the custom kernel > # cd /usr/src > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL And remake your custom kernel here. Personally, I try to keep an updated GENERIC in /boot/kernel.GENERIC always. > 8/ Final reboot > # shutdown -r now > > I was told earlier that 7.0 -> 7.1 journey is a minor one and so I do > not need to rebuild all the ports. Is that correct? > > Once again, many thanks for your advice! > My 2 cents. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 12:33:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C772106567F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from ariqua.hostforweb.net (ariqua.hostforweb.net [64.202.123.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348088FC1B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from hst-220-62.medicom.bg ([84.238.220.62]:59898 helo=[10.30.1.106]) by ariqua.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LS9bz-0004Tp-Hr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:33:43 -0600 Message-ID: <4980509B.7080206@aboutsupport.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:33:31 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <991123400901272229i550b9003w12ae146c1d010a97@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400901272229i550b9003w12ae146c1d010a97@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ariqua.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aboutsupport.com Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:33:44 -0000 Mamlookie wrote: > I just stumbled upon BackupPC yesterday, so I amnot sure how good it can be > because I haven't had time to test, but nothing stops you from looking at > it, now that you are after a solution. > Please see http://backuppc.sourceforge.net > > PS: If you do test it out, please come back and tell us what you feel about > it. I personally will appreciate the feedback, even if to my personal > address. > Backuppc is harder to configure, but allowed easier access to file version, even via web interface - can be useful if you want to give access to the backups to your customers. I personally use rsnapshot. Simply rocks :) Peter Zyumbilev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 13:26:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8C610657B8 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1394A8FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com (195.54.101.122) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.127) id 492A9CFF01703381 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:46 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkY2AGvsf0lV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBbocqimsBAQEBHhcLt2GFRwY Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2009 14:26:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0SDQi3N070776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49805D14.4050509@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:44 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is there a trick to boot 7.1 install CD with USB keyboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:26:49 -0000 Dell OptiPlex 745 - no PS/2 connectors. USB keyboard works on boot menu but during kernel initialization I see this: usb1: host controller halted uhub1: device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 2 Keyboard is non-working when SYSINSTALL starts. Upgraded to latest BIOS and error disappears but keyboard is still non-working in SYSINSTALL. I've tried both front and rear USB ports. I've googled extensively but can't find any workaround or trick to make this work. Solution seems to be 8.0-CURRENT or am I missing something vital here? I was hoping for some command to issue at the boot prompt... Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 13:39:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDD4106567E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663878FC30 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1196288nfh.33 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:39:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j8GWfYYI//+/0ABtL+7u6lRV0PWlLcHXnDvC0LUgog8=; b=PNxoSAmZI6jS7hv3s92MRD7vJtU3Cw3enllBUUIGpbIhZ4EuZOqvnCz5Sy/HmL78I+ n0yDd46E2B1gX+O1KE9za+qIj9MQ+MogejSccZM/nijONXgVJUtugN6fccnELvrhxNGC T0Zdh1gmKjUjbZJ81GqIRPGxVVS/CBPkM4elM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vVL5bYF/pUt5aKVhI21wVlLrvHGcE3vtjxTlOzBeS2YlONfzQTR46iNVuiys5J5N3N vDmp3KS4WCtH2aE6sksYiQZ1BeVctdYUW0rP77d+AnOrRQoJBvfWx7FycOvvaLAKhhRG XGqzbFFWD/f4hX+1SrMIKmjvog72g9OyyRPAI= Received: by 10.103.228.19 with SMTP id f19mr2890329mur.18.1233149986876; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm26098402ikz.1.2009.01.28.05.39.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:39:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:39:43 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <49804A92.904@gmail.com> References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:39:49 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 Tim Judd wrote: > Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, > it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system update problems are using freebsd-update. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 13:49:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9EA106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658988FC1C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so4003284ewy.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:49:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=97QDpXbzQKFWa9RZ33xkzI6m3vRE5hxOm2SqnR7emHE=; b=RIDhQH5F8NmST3Hmlwi6LwcxGvB091Ooe2SoybPoSalWxwKtj+GBOclfVpO18gz3p+ An46y7ZANWKW4omyWDw//gbozsQYM8GzghjxnsiISwPPlF4er0/xo/A9q7Utedn64PwI 7/w0gS5NkTn3c8E5BwWRqHXrm6cIEiPj/9/QE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jbEbXHfK3eis8ADwsmfJK/JdBTkIY0zPkG7lju6h0NttMKbVe7veJ6FLW9fveL8Q+d Gi+oQIDUAfe3fCvITv+CfxPwEonotIbyepzJbpfvBg9i8PwivghgiKtWugGLbvXbrO35 RfyTZX/PmAntGi50oIL6eRxMzl+6qVQl/VinI= Received: by 10.103.93.18 with SMTP id v18mr2942925mul.43.1233150555432; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z37sm26638010ikz.9.2009.01.28.05.49.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:49:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:49:11 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128134911.054ffd21@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <49801D13.2060803@maydias.com> References: <49801D13.2060803@maydias.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Unable to Fetch ktorrent-3.1.6.tar.bz2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:49:17 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:53:39 +1000 Warren Liddell wrote: > I updated my ports this afternoon and ktorrent has an upgrade, but > alas the pkg for it isnt in the distfiles list on the website yet, > was this in error or has something gona astray ? This question doesn't make much sense, are you looking for a package for 7-stable or a distfile or what?. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 14:08:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EFD106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com (a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com [64.72.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C08E8FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from mail.bsdwebsolutions.com ([64.72.68.15]) by a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD Web Solutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1LSAjs-000GEm-P6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:45:56 -0500 Received: from [69.206.230.54] (port=61792 helo=[172.16.64.22]) by mail.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1LSAjs-000Oxg-Kc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (authenticated as postmaster@bsdwebsolutions.com); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:45:56 -0500 Message-ID: <49806194.9070402@poughkeepsieschools.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:45:56 -0500 From: "B. Cook" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <991123400901272229i550b9003w12ae146c1d010a97@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400901272229i550b9003w12ae146c1d010a97@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 69.206.230.54 X-BSD-Auth-Id: postmaster@bsdwebsolutions.com Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:08:01 -0000 Mamlookie wrote, On 1/28/2009 1:29 AM: > > I just stumbled upon BackupPC yesterday, so I amnot sure how good it can be > because I haven't had time to test, but nothing stops you from looking at > it, now that you are after a solution. > Please see http://backuppc.sourceforge.net > > PS: If you do test it out, please come back and tell us what you feel about > it. I personally will appreciate the feedback, even if to my personal > address. > I use BackupPC to backup many machines at our school and a few remote sites I admin during the 'off hours'... All FreeBSD and a few Linux servers, all over sshd/rsync; it can also pull data from win32 machines as well, but I don't do that. I have ours setup with a backuppc 'server' running from thttpd on port 2359. Keeps all the apache non-sense from messing up the install.. (imho) and gives a platform independent answer if you run it on something else.. and doesn't mess up any current webserver you may have installed. It needs perl and a few modules (all of which are in ports) and runs with very minimal intervention once its done. Highly configurable, sends emails when there are problems, has many different ways to connect to remote machines.. etc.. if you are interested in hearing more about it let me know.. General Server Information * The servers PID is 36529, on host storage.phs.pcsd, version 3.1.0, started at 1/15 14:34. * This status was generated at 1/28 08:41. * The configuration was last loaded at 1/25 13:00. * PCs will be next queued at 1/28 09:00. * Other info: * 0 pending backup requests from last scheduled wakeup, * 0 pending user backup requests, * 0 pending command requests, * Pool is 102.00GB comprising 1152712 files and 4369 directories (as of 1/28 01:33), * Pool hashing gives 385 repeated files with longest chain 34, * Nightly cleanup removed 4700 files of size 0.05GB (around 1/28 01:33), * Pool file system was recently at 37% (1/28 08:32), today's max is 37% (1/28 01:00) and yesterday's max was 37%. /dev/mirror/gm0s1h 330G 113G 190G 37% /exports This is backing up about 9/10 servers atm. does incrementals once a day, and fulls once a week. Keeps the last 10 fulls, and at least 6 incrementals.. (all my settings) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 14:23:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C439106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259638FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQBAKfsf0mkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIzCSFRwaFBw Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2009 15:23:46 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Martin McCormick In-Reply-To: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:25:02 +0100 Message-Id: <1233152702.2741.10.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:47 -0000 If you're looking for something "serious" (I mean with incremental/differential/full backups, retension periods, pools, multi platform, tape/file/dvd support, ...) I highly suggest Bacula (http://www.bacula.org). I use it successfully at work since two years (we used Amanda before) to backup 10+ machines (FreeBSD and Linux mainly) best regards, Julien On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 16:30 -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > Several months ago, I started using dar to backup a > number of FreeBSD and Linux systems to one FreeBSD box. It > worked fine once one got the syntax of the remote commands > working, but then it all died when I moved it to a new > FreeBSD6.3 system. > > If I can't figure out what is wrong or whether it is > worth fixing, I am going to have to find some other archiver so > we can get good backups and trust them to be easily restored. > > What we plan to do is backup a bunch of Unix systems to > one FreeBSD box and then use a commercial package to back that > box up to an enterprise-wide system we use. The archiver we need > must be able to make 1 full backup of each system like tar and > then incrementals until we are ready for another full backup. > > Any suggestions as to what is best? Dar seemed to be > okay until the incrementals would hang each time with some error > messages about the format version being too high which is bogus > because we are using the same version for all the effected > systems. > > The archive files should use tar or some other common > storage method so we could unpack an archive from a Linux system > in to a FreeBSD directory or vice versa. > > Any backup packages using tar would be fine as long as > they can do incremental backups and use ssh as the transport. > > Any ideas are appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 14:26:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2162510656C2 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99C38FC1E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:29 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0SEETLZ012693; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:29 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi , freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20090128141429.GA12667@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090124061635.GA3053@rebelion.Sisis.de> <1232799212.7222.10.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <20090124142525.GA14942@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090124142525.GA14942@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2009 14:14:29.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBF162B0:01C98152] Cc: Subject: Re: port openoffice.org-devl (3.1.20081224) installs fine but does not run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:34 -0000 El día Saturday, January 24, 2009 a las 03:25:25PM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: > El día Saturday, January 24, 2009 a las 10:13:32AM -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi escribió: > > > Hello... > > > > > > It is because the installation (the makefile is wrong, it install the > > binary /usr/local/openoffice.org..../openoffice.org3/program/soffice > > as a copy of soffice.bin) > > it must install it as a shell script that fixes the loader path. > > here is the shell script (named soffice). > > copy over the binary soffice and make it executable > > here it runs fine... FreeBSD amd64. > > Hola Sérgio, > > ¡Obrigado! > > I will give it a try. The e-mail transport has mangeled a bit with your > shell script but I have seen two identicals ones in the port: > > work/DEV300_m38/desktop/scripts/soffice.sh > work/DEV300_m38/desktop/unxfbsdi.pro/misc/soffice.sh > > and I will test it. This really helped: # mv /usr/local/openoffice.org-DEV300_m38/openoffice.org3/program/soffice /usr/local/openoffice.org-DEV300_m38/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.orig # cp work/DEV300_m38/desktop/unxfbsdi.pro/misc/soffice.sh /usr/local/openoffice.org-DEV300_m38/openoffice.org3/program/soffice # chmod 0755 /usr/local/openoffice.org-DEV300_m38/openoffice.org3/program/soffice Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen >From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 14:28:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E20610656BE for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cagri.ersen@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926A48FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cagri.ersen@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so4054944fka.11 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:28:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DpIJTiCoLbTassELtwzmLcaWW3O7WCP2jc8U3fUVXZQ=; b=VOmu4b2NsLxlNeld7sLrHPIBRph4ghQi2kXbWMsWppv1BKvymN/mf2S9DerxKzeQ03 6OreVxQwCiT7w9aDKx7qvJAZ4yFXpK++vfcYrW1luoAt3iOk19ai3j1rF3BsbeZn/Kfm 03sVM/sia+fjVPKRXN27aHaVV2L7nvOmcaUbk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iEfY35ONDFu/07XjeiQrhpWc2a0j48oobcgEx64A9FtSqS79/4IKE2ZK6XREqGfFX1 70ffiTQr5uCbQeH4xU6Z5zClXew8lczjfGwZVYCBGkMytm1naHtWmLtJFh8MdwsZbD2P BdCyl8h6CoCa3SwJvP4maA1EG6+iYoFWVjbQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.124.209 with SMTP id v17mr1097111far.6.1233151528040; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:05:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:05:27 +0200 Message-ID: <73a179920901280605g23da3c9bj970464212805ede1@mail.gmail.com> From: Cagri Ersen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apache Reverse Proxy with Memory Cache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:28:12 -0000 Hi all, I installed an apache22 server (with mod_proxy, mod_cache and mod_mem_cache) on FreeBSD 7.0 for reverse proxy that using static contents of a web site. Now it's seems work fine; but i didn't found a way to looking mem cache status. Ofc i can get some information about that with using native tools (like top, systat, vmstat). But what if i need to looking for the cached objects in the memory ? Is there any way to getting list of that cached objects ? Best Regards. -- Cagri Ersen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 15:14:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A696106568C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0698FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAD+f0nUnw4T/2dsb2JhbADMMIVHBg Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2009 14:45:57 +0000 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1LSBfw-0002hE-QD; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:45:57 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSBfw-0000om-Bq; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:45:56 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chris Whitehouse Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:45:55 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <1232911389.00066065.1232901002@10.7.7.3> <1232918584.00066087.1232907002@10.7.7.3> <497CFB80.70800@next.online.no> In-Reply-To: <497CFB80.70800@next.online.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281445.56246.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 489762c20c52a7050b14eda7b098f8aa Cc: Tore Lund Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:24 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009, Tore Lund wrote: > Mike Clarke wrote: > > But I get sensible looking results for my Athlon 64 X2 4850e with > > the following command: > > > > sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature > > For some reason it works on your 4850e. But for some of us this > command does not work. It never reports anything but 40 C on my > Athlon 64 X2 6000+. sysutils/k8temp, however, reports 20 C /28 C. And on Sunday 25 January 2009, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > It works for me, I ran it and sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature > every 2 seconds in a while loop and cpu temperatures follow cpu > activity closely and change in 1deg steps between about 25deg and > 42deg. When I rebooted and checked temperature in the BIOS it was > pretty much the same as what k8temp was saying just previously. > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature is fixed on 40deg even with high cpu > activity. > > Maybe your processor is not supported? Very odd. The processor is an Athlon 64 X2 4850e. Being one of the newer energy efficient 45 watt models I suppose there might be a difference in the temperature sensor. It might also be an issue with the motherboard (Foxconn FC-6150M2MA-KRS2H). After I got the motherboard I needed to upgrade the BIOS in an attempt to fix an unrelated problem. Prior to the update even the BIOS reported silly high temperatures and I remember FreeBSD reporting a constant 40C but I don't remember whether this was from sysctl, k8temp or mbmon. I don't overclock the system so after satisfying myself that it doesn't have any tendency to overheat I no longer have much need to monitor the CPU temperature so I think the way my system reports temperatures will just remain as one of life's little mysteries. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 15:40:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D79E106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFA88FC24 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 22897 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2009 15:40:16 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jan 2009 15:40:16 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0345C5084A; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id AFB531CF1F; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:40:11 -0500 (EST) To: Da Rock References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233067663.18867.13.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <1233094843.1202.30.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:40:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1233094843.1202.30.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> (Da Rock's message of "Wed\, 28 Jan 2009 08\:20\:43 +1000") Message-ID: <44zlhbo2w4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:40:17 -0000 Da Rock writes: > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:47 -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: >> Em Ter, 2009-01-27 =E0s 09:27 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu: >>=20 >> > Hi, >> > have you solved the problem yet? I also have libXmu failed to >> > upgrade due to libxcb-xlib.la. Thanks!! >>=20 >> I removed every instance of libxb-xlib.la from /usr/local/lib/*.la >> than it all works again >>=20 >> a shell script like: >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D >> #!/bin/sh >>=20 >> lista=3D`find /usr/local/lib -type f -name "*.la"` >>=20 >> if [ -n "$lista" ] >> then >> for i in $lista >> do >> if grep $1 $i > /dev/null >> then >> sed -i "" "s|/usr/local/lib/$1||" $lista >> fi >> done >> fi >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> supose you name this shell -> XX >> than..... >> sh XX libxcb-xlib.la=20 >> will do the trick.... >>=20 >> after that, you will be able to build things again. > > I've been talking to the porters and that would not be the recommended > way of fixing this. Running portupgrade -a -rf libxcb resolves the > issue. That probably isn't the exactly recommended form either.=20 "-a" and "-r" don't make sense together; the "-r" will be ignored, and you will end up rebuilding *everything*. --=20 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 16:01:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576A7106568E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46A68FC1C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0SG1ksQ088378; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:01:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:01:45 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: KES In-Reply-To: <5510133465.20090128101516@yandex.ru> Message-ID: <20090129014910.V86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <58305.62.206.221.107.1233071856.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> <20090128183250.O86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <5510133465.20090128101516@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Sebastian Mellmann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:01:50 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, KES wrote: > ????????????, Ian. > > May be this will be usefull for you Yes, but I need to read it more times :) Nicely answers the question about stats per flow/queue anyway, not too hard to parse for logging. > #1. ping -D -S 10.10.16.16 -s 1472 -i 0.01 10.0.16.1 > #2. ping -S 10.10.16.17 10.0.16.1 Results suggest that #1 was -S 10.10.16.19 ? A script running the same number of #2 before killing #1 (or such) would make comparisons between different runs easier to follow maybe? Thanks, lots of useful info; hoping to try some weighted queueing soon. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 16:09:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5091065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D8E8FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so7471039wfg.7 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:09:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KqK4vY3x7JTn4IciRUFtCaNucueTyDS1nhiTiO2fiFY=; b=tOqrKWdIQDhEQHCD0EQFUqGqwTNKkmqLIx57PdCvd40QCKNysVg8lwUANRPi9ZzIHm H5v9PHmDHEAt//gdXBS5nRGcmnn/qGRKNJncSqZJGs6V9+oCeLfEiNAUmeTaNjFdluYG VmY/m6+Vk2uLrsqIn/brqHXS4Y6/Cfjol+xjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lEgoudW0nj4213gW+t5fUlWbBDRSMxpmaF3kRYVztsqAl5mRkexrcQ8nqlYcTRax4O VMx9CkgH8KesOBwrE4bnEsb6txRYDRUPxkwZ+syX9TQfXb6ZUCSbarhYr2/s19eHGFTM 2E/bg99tnBZ37e6ZUP4bJL3U/yQNXubq3uubQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr1058012wfg.57.1233158980570; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:09:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <44zlhbo2w4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233067663.18867.13.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <1233094843.1202.30.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <44zlhbo2w4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:09:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: Lowell Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:41 -0000 yah, i think that one thing i didn't do is "portupgrade -rf libxcb", before upgrading xorg-* stuff. its a hell of a job..... thats all i got to say... TFC On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Da Rock writes: > >> On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:47 -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: >>> Em Ter, 2009-01-27 =E0s 09:27 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu: >>> >>> > Hi, >>> > have you solved the problem yet? I also have libXmu failed to >>> > upgrade due to libxcb-xlib.la. Thanks!! >>> >>> I removed every instance of libxb-xlib.la from /usr/local/lib/*.la >>> than it all works again >>> >>> a shell script like: >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >>> #!/bin/sh >>> >>> lista=3D`find /usr/local/lib -type f -name "*.la"` >>> >>> if [ -n "$lista" ] >>> then >>> for i in $lista >>> do >>> if grep $1 $i > /dev/null >>> then >>> sed -i "" "s|/usr/local/lib/$1||" $lista >>> fi >>> done >>> fi >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> supose you name this shell -> XX >>> than..... >>> sh XX libxcb-xlib.la >>> will do the trick.... >>> >>> after that, you will be able to build things again. >> >> I've been talking to the porters and that would not be the recommended >> way of fixing this. Running portupgrade -a -rf libxcb resolves the >> issue. > > That probably isn't the exactly recommended form either. > "-a" and "-r" don't make sense together; the "-r" will be ignored, and > you will end up rebuilding *everything*. > > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 16:13:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E081065676 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7328FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:13:50 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0SGDog7016267 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:13:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:13:50 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128161350.GA16103@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2009 16:13:51.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[6871E590:01C98163] Subject: 7.1R port www/webkit-gtk2 installs fine but fails to pkg_create X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:13:54 -0000 Hello, the pkg_create of the port www/webkit-gtk2 (webkit-gtk2-1.0.1_4) fails with: # pkg_create -Rnb webkit-gtk2-1.0.1_4 tar: lib/libwebkit-1.0.a: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen >From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 17:07:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A62106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@nicoelro.net) Received: from mail.nicoelro.net (helm.nicoelro.net [87.98.216.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969528FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@nicoelro.net) Received: by mail.nicoelro.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id CE5D378F99; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:47:53 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on helm.nicoelro.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from orthanc (mne69-8-82-247-37-160.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.37.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nicolas@nicoelro.net) by mail.nicoelro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2211878F07 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:47:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:47:53 +0100 From: Nicolas Letellier To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20090128174753.8d2b15b5.nicolas@nicoelro.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cannot build dovecot with bdb support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:07:11 -0000 Hello. I use FreeBSD-6.3. I want to install dovecot port with dbd support. However, that's impossible. See my error: hecking for pam/pam_appl.h... no checking for pam_setcred in -lpam... yes checking for auth_userokay... no checking db_env_create in -ldb... no configure: error: Can't build with db support: libdb not found ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to yds@CoolRat.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-1.1.8/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/dovecot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/dovecot. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.60329.0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! mail/dovecot (configure error) At the top of the "make", I see "dovecot-1.1.8 depends on shared library: db41.1 - found". So, I have some db files installed... When I remove dbd support, it works. I wrote to the maintainer. But, temporarly, I want to solve this problem and add bdb support to my dovecot. Do you have a solution? Why I havn't got libdb? Thanks. Best regards, -- -Nicolas. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 18:16:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39153106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5B78FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LSExY-0002Pt-Ci; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:16:20 +0000 Received: from [92.238.154.32] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LSExX-0004Cl-RN; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:16:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:17:28 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295622@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: <49805D14.4050509@pp.dyndns.biz> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is there a trick to boot 7.1 install CD with USB keyboard? Thread-Index: AcmBTF9vq7n99JlJRuC0eW5iHnr4ewAKCv4g References: <49805D14.4050509@pp.dyndns.biz> From: "Graeme Dargie" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= , "FreeBSD Questions" Cc: Subject: RE: Is there a trick to boot 7.1 install CD with USB keyboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:16:22 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Morgan Wesstr=F6m [mailto:freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz]=20 Sent: 28 January 2009 13:27 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Is there a trick to boot 7.1 install CD with USB keyboard? Dell OptiPlex 745 - no PS/2 connectors. USB keyboard works on boot menu but during kernel initialization I see = this: usb1: host controller halted uhub1: device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 2 Keyboard is non-working when SYSINSTALL starts. Upgraded to latest BIOS and error disappears but keyboard is still non-working in SYSINSTALL. I've tried both front and rear USB ports. I've googled extensively but can't find any workaround or trick to make this work. Solution seems to be 8.0-CURRENT or am I missing something vital here? I was hoping for some command to issue at the boot prompt... Regards Morgan Have you made sure you have USB keyboard support enabled in the bios and = you may also need to enable USB legacy support. Regards Graeme _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 18:27:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB9D106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C47C8FC2A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA50AFC1FE; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:27:05 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:27:04 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090128174753.8d2b15b5.nicolas@nicoelro.net> In-Reply-To: <20090128174753.8d2b15b5.nicolas@nicoelro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901280927.04636.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Nicolas Letellier Subject: Re: Cannot build dovecot with bdb support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:27:06 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 07:47:53 Nicolas Letellier wrote: > Hello. > > I use FreeBSD-6.3. I want to install dovecot port with dbd support. > However, that's impossible. See my error: > > hecking for pam/pam_appl.h... no > checking for pam_setcred in -lpam... yes > checking for auth_userokay... no > checking db_env_create in -ldb... no > configure: error: Can't build with db support: libdb not found > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to yds@CoolRat.org [maintainer] and attach the > "/usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-1.1.8/config.log" including the The answer is in there. Works for me with db46. Could you show the part of config.log where it says it fails? Search for "checking db_env_create in -ldb" and anything below that will be helpful. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 18:39:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D841065674 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE38FC43 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SIcwTo025394; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:38:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0SIcuQm025391; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:38:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:38:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Julien Cigar In-Reply-To: <1233152702.2741.10.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: <20090128193843.V25390@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <1233152702.2741.10.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:39:15 -0000 > If you're looking for something "serious" (I mean with > incremental/differential/full backups, retension periods, pools, multi > platform, tape/file/dvd support, ...) I highly suggest Bacula > (http://www.bacula.org). how you define "serious"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 18:39:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C94106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9C68FC2E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2468AFC1FE; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:39:16 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:39:16 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49801D13.2060803@maydias.com> <20090128134911.054ffd21@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090128134911.054ffd21@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901280939.16429.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Warren Liddell , RW Subject: Re: Unable to Fetch ktorrent-3.1.6.tar.bz2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:39:17 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 04:49:11 RW wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:53:39 +1000 > > Warren Liddell wrote: > > I updated my ports this afternoon and ktorrent has an upgrade, but > > alas the pkg for it isnt in the distfiles list on the website yet, > > was this in error or has something gona astray ? > > This question doesn't make much sense, are you looking for a package > for 7-stable or a distfile or what?. Makes perfect sense, tar.bz2 != package: # make -C net-p2p/ktorrent fetch => ktorrent-3.1.6.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /var/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from http://ktorrent.org/downloads/3.1.6/. fetch: http://ktorrent.org/downloads/3.1.6/ktorrent-3.1.6.tar.bz2: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ktorrent-3.1.6.tar.bz2: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /var/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Either wait for portmaintainer to fix it, or apply patch below and type: make -C /usr/ports/net-p2p/ktorrent makesum Then build as usual. Of course, only do that if you're in a hurry. Better to wait till maintainer has figured out why the tarball was rerolled and if it's safe. -- Mel Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/net-p2p/ktorrent/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.32 Makefile --- Makefile 25 Jan 2009 09:12:25 -0000 1.32 +++ Makefile 28 Jan 2009 18:32:37 -0000 @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ PORTNAME= ktorrent PORTVERSION= 3.1.6 +DISTVERSION= ${PORTVERSION}-4 CATEGORIES= net-p2p kde MASTER_SITES= http://ktorrent.org/downloads/${PORTVERSION}/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 18:43:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A05106570A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp2.brturbo.com.br (smtp2.brte.com.br [200.199.201.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBD78FC16 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from mailapp01.brturbo.com (unknown [10.160.120.196]) by smtp2.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2840D3420 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:32:08 -0200 (BRST) Received: from mailapp01.brturbo.com (mailapp01.brturbo.com [10.160.120.196]) by mailapp01.brturbo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEBC5F402F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:39:51 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <13724607.1233167991636.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:39:51 -0300 (ART) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_677817_23173678.1233167991635" SDL_HA: false X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: exFAT File System Format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:43:17 -0000 ------=_Part_677817_23173678.1233167991635 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Hi guys; News: http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!5216.entry?w a=wsignin1.0&sa=911422520 Any chance of this being supported on FBSD so we can dump ntfs for good? Thanks, Mario ------=_Part_677817_23173678.1233167991635-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 18:44:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E3A106574B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from ariqua.hostforweb.net (ariqua.hostforweb.net [64.202.123.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBF28FC1D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [78.90.167.18] (port=33752 helo=[10.30.4.100]) by ariqua.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSFP5-0002Po-Lq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:44:47 -0600 Message-ID: <4980A794.3030600@aboutsupport.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:44:36 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <497F01E3.9040307@aboutsupport.com> <497F0CB4.4070700@fxclub.org> <497F5A3A.3070103@aboutsupport.com> <497F5F23.8000004@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497F5F23.8000004@fxclub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ariqua.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aboutsupport.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:44:48 -0000 >> > Well it is possible - but what information it can give me? > Could you explain - just to know if this 2 hours is acceptable for this. > Check DELL website for more info - but generally tests the harwrare componnents.. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 19:01:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FB51065688 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from ariqua.hostforweb.net (ariqua.hostforweb.net [64.202.123.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4A78FC22 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [78.90.167.18] (port=33580 helo=[10.30.4.100]) by ariqua.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSFf4-0004Rk-Bh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:01:18 -0600 Message-ID: <4980AB73.2020907@aboutsupport.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:01:07 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <73a179920901280605g23da3c9bj970464212805ede1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <73a179920901280605g23da3c9bj970464212805ede1@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ariqua.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aboutsupport.com Subject: Re: Apache Reverse Proxy with Memory Cache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:01:19 -0000 maybe Nginx and lighttpd are better option here ? Peter Cagri Ersen wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed an apache22 server (with mod_proxy, mod_cache and > mod_mem_cache) on FreeBSD 7.0 for reverse proxy that using static > contents of a web site. > Now it's seems work fine; but i didn't found a way to looking mem > cache status. Ofc i can get some information about that with using > native tools (like top, systat, vmstat). But what if i need to looking > for the cached objects in the memory ? > > Is there any way to getting list of that cached objects ? > > Best Regards. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 19:01:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC8D1065686 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (brucec-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:c09::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17448FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9489A19268; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:01:15 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from gluon (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:01:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:01:06 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: "V. M. Tame-Reyes" Message-ID: <20090128190106.5b610b99@gluon> In-Reply-To: <497F7CE3.8070105@instec.cu> References: <497F7CE3.8070105@instec.cu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about install of Fortran compiler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:01:27 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:30:11 -0500 "V. M. Tame-Reyes" wrote: > > Hello FreeBSD community, > > I had a friend download all the files in freeBSD ports site > (the official one) so i have a large collection of .tbz files > but i don't seem to be able to find a correct fortran 77 > compiler, i already installed c compiler, but calling g77 > wouldn't work. > > Any help anyone could provide ? With the import of GCC 4.2 the Fortran compiler was removed from the base system a few versions ago. There are several in the ports system you can install instead. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 19:22:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE49B106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9DE8FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0SJMvvY003403; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:22:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:22:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:22:11 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Reko Turja Message-ID: <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:22:17 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: > >so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a 10pt-font > >file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually hacking, > >this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is giong > >to > >be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR > >looks > >best so far to me. > > AABBYY Finereader - Omnipage haven't been able to catch it in several > years either feature or qualitywise. No idea if Finereader runs under > emulator though. If the file is already a PDF and 72 DPI with text as > graphics most of the damage has already been done, and it will be > extremely hard to OCR. > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the resolution? i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif files, but then that's really absurd since there can only be just so much data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and smoothing image to refine, but too much hassle. (i used gocr -m 130 and "saw" the glyphs it (presumably) saw. seemed pretty much okay to my eyes. but then i'm not a computer program. [MAYBE :)] gary > -Reko > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 19:33:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5352D1065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE10A8FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so4628032ewy.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:32:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vXdbfUPS2uEEan0rpgmtfkHjz6GSWgV3Rf3+sunB0L4=; b=th7f9rsnGAWhWpUH4zPYWln41iMg9CgmGCCLN9e2pkxYgls9Q1JM+/G5pjIYW8jXEd WkiPgcmA0+lLjBeDr/niN77Mkux+2+X9BjS8S378gDbOchF+43N5x6edrgCUI6Zx6PMi 2JMQQ7TQfLJYLIUDLE6/xQfs0ugncB0Er0FEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BowbxAu4N85PBVUiHUduQb12BGoAMzbUd/gQCHXI87zAhWsXW1DVOlMEwzd5RreS/q lVGOOy9I0doUB9n8uAHsnf4b7endnx9DT0J/do/PUbBvP9YDjoy4BFstJ+zCTHgpd2gv nnB4iOBnl1LC1TDIE36vgcHMlx95E29d8LUCc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.11.7 with SMTP id o7mr3502536mui.103.1233171177627; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:32:57 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Reko Turja , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:33:01 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: > > >so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a 10pt-font > > >file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually hacking, > > >this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is giong > > >to > > >be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR > > >looks > > >best so far to me. > > > > AABBYY Finereader - Omnipage haven't been able to catch it in several > > years either feature or qualitywise. No idea if Finereader runs under > > emulator though. If the file is already a PDF and 72 DPI with text as > > graphics most of the damage has already been done, and it will be > > extremely hard to OCR. > > > > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the resolution? > i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif files, but > then that's really absurd since there can only be just so much > data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and smoothing image to > refine, but too much hassle. > > (i used gocr -m 130 and "saw" the glyphs it (presumably) saw. > seemed pretty much okay to my eyes. but then i'm not a computer > program. [MAYBE :)] > > gary > > > > > -Reko > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > At one point in time, the Abby folks were offering a back-end that ran on FreeBSD. I tried to get the free download; but it never happened. (They misplaced my signed, faxed license agreement and I finally got tired of the back-and-forth prerequisite communication.) Abby also no longer supports Mac OS X. I use an old version and like it a lot. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:02:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5158106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2FD8FC17 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so7697337gxk.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:02:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.157.19 with SMTP id f19mr558301ybe.110.1233171416531; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:36:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:02:56 -0000 I am trying to replace an older DLT tape drive (which doesn't like to eject tapes any more) with a new Quantum DLT-4 drive. Its connected by internal SCSI and seems to be set up right. But after DAYS of running a tar command, its still not done backing up 60GB. The old drive could backup 70-80GB in about 7 hours. I changed my backup script to include a -v flag in the tar command, and it now lists hundreds or possibly thousands of files. But it never even gets to /home before I killed the process (after 9 hours in this case). Any suggestions? If it helps, the backup script and output from camcontrol follows. However, this script is the same one that worked on the other drive. A quick test with a Knoppix disk suggested that the backups ran faster in Linux. Not positive of this, but it might be true. $ cat /etc/periodic/daily/910.backups #!/bin/sh # echo echo "Tape archives:" dow=`/bin/date +%w` if test "$dow" -gt 1; then echo " Beginning backup." /usr/bin/uptime /usr/bin/tar -cvpX /usr/local/etc/backups/skiplist-relative.txt -f /dev/sa0 -C / . /usr/bin/uptime else echo " Today is a weekend. Skipping backups." fi $ camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1) at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2) at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass3) at scbus2 target 4 lun 0 (sa0,pass4) Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Jaime From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:23:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117DF106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE76E8FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan-a.emsphone.com [199.67.51.107]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n0SKNqYM000477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SKNqmF096271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0SKNouc096252; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:50 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jaime Message-ID: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:23:53 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:23:54 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 28), Jaime said: > I am trying to replace an older DLT tape drive (which doesn't like to > eject tapes any more) with a new Quantum DLT-4 drive. Its connected > by internal SCSI and seems to be set up right. But after DAYS of > running a tar command, its still not done backing up 60GB. The old > drive could backup 70-80GB in about 7 hours. > > Any suggestions? > > /usr/bin/tar -cvpX /usr/local/etc/backups/skiplist-relative.txt -f /dev/sa0 -C / . If nothing else, I suggest bumping up your blocksize. The default for tar (10k) is pretty small for modern tape drives. Try -b 128 (for a 64k block size). Another optimization would be to put a buffering program in between tar and your tape drive to decouple disk reads from tape writes. misc/team, misc/buffer, and misc/cstream in ports are good for this. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:24:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F05210656BC for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000CF8FC24 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9D853EA102 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:24:56 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ql0VG0mGbh+J for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:24:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from athena.localnet (athena.daycos.com [IPv6:2001:470:c054:1:221:9bff:fe00:de3f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B8C953EA104 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:24:54 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:24:50 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (Linux/2.6.27-11-generic; KDE/4.2.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <204332.75237.qm@web111309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <200901270732.57972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901270732.57972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281424.50680.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:24:57 -0000 On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: > Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of > downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any better. If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to agree. -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:36:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51B41065673 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5A38FC20 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com (195.54.101.122) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.127) id 492A9CFF01728F4B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:36:02 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIzAAhQgElV4jp1PGdsb2JhbAAwgT6HK4prAQEBAR4XC7hAhUcG Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2009 21:36:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0SKa0ZR078204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:36:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4980C1B0.7060804@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:36:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <49805D14.4050509@pp.dyndns.biz> <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295622@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295622@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Is there a trick to boot 7.1 install CD with USB keyboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:04 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Morgan Wesström [mailto:freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz] > Sent: 28 January 2009 13:27 > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Is there a trick to boot 7.1 install CD with USB keyboard? > > Dell OptiPlex 745 - no PS/2 connectors. > > USB keyboard works on boot menu but during kernel initialization I see this: > > usb1: host controller halted > uhub1: device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 2 > > > Have you made sure you have USB keyboard support enabled in the bios and you may also need to enable USB legacy support. > > Regards > > Graeme Thanks Graeme. None of those options exist in the BIOS of this particular machine. I assume it's always enabled due to its lack of PS/2 connectors. At least one Google hit mentions Dell Optiplex 745 specifically not working while model 755 boots FreeBSD without problems. Disabling atkbd via hints (as suggested by other posts) doesn't change the behaviour either unfortunately. This isn't extremely important to me. I simply wondered if I had missed some vital information regarding the use of USB keyboards. /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:36:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016DA106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2F38FC1C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp14.yandex.ru (smtp14.yandex.ru [77.88.32.84]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 83E0E211024; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 201-19-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.19.201]:5386 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S393340AbZA1UgO (ORCPT + 2 others); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:36:14 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp14 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233174974 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 6 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:36:14 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <804368613.20090128223614@yandex.ru> To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20090129014910.V86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <58305.62.206.221.107.1233071856.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> <20090128183250.O86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <5510133465.20090128101516@yandex.ru> <20090129014910.V86094@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Sebastian Mellmann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[3]: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:27 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Ian. Âû ïèñàëè 28 ÿíâàðÿ 2009 ã., 18:01:45: IS> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, KES wrote: >> ????????????, Ian. >> >> May be this will be usefull for you IS> Yes, but I need to read it more times :) Nicely answers the question IS> about stats per flow/queue anyway, not too hard to parse for logging. >> #1. ping -D -S 10.10.16.16 -s 1472 -i 0.01 10.0.16.1 >> #2. ping -S 10.10.16.17 10.0.16.1 IS> Results suggest that #1 was -S 10.10.16.19 ? A script running the same IS> number of #2 before killing #1 (or such) would make comparisons between IS> different runs easier to follow maybe? IS> Thanks, lots of useful info; hoping to try some weighted queueing soon. Yes, you are right -S 10.10.16.19. both ping are run simulteneously I have experimented with pipes after pipes. With dummy it is possible to do next: put two flows to pipe 512Kbit, pipe will be devided by equal parts: 256. in case the only one flow is active it will be 320Kbit pipe 1 bw 512kbit queue 1 pipe 1 pipe 2 bw 320kbit ipfw add 1 pipe 2 all from any to any ipfw add 2 queue 1 all from any to any First of all packets will be piped to 320Kbit/s then they will be queued to 512Kbit. Because of flow of 320 is less then 512kbit packets will leave queue with speed of 320. In case two flows both will be piped to 320 kbit in sum this will be 640kbit, Because of queue bw is 512kbit some packets will be droped. This will down each flow speed to 256 NOTICE: A) you must create its own pipe for each flow so you must use mask 0xFFFFFFFF. I use: pipe 1 config bw 512k mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 pipe 2 config bw 320k mask src-ip 0xffffffff gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 B) you must put all flows to one queue so they share available bw so you must use mask 0x00000000 I use: queue 1 config pipe 1 mask src-ip 0x00000000 gred 0.002/10/30/0.1 keep in mind IPFW.man: In practice, pipes can be used to set hard limits to the bandwidth that a flow can use, whereas queues can be used to determine how different flow share the available bandwidth. So when you give user some bandwidth to user you must put its flow to pipe If users will share some bandwidth then put their flows to queue Suggestion: What queue inherit from pipe? It seems queue inherit only bandwidth parameter from pipe. If so then it is boring to create useless pipe to inherit only bw parameter. It will be handy directly write this parameter in queue and remove DEPRECATED (I think so) 'pipe' opts from queue. In any case this is "black box" how pipe is coupled with queue. This is unclear section in man. Also I notice next BUG: There are two modes of dummynet operation: normal and fast. Normal mode tries to emulate real link: dummynet scheduler ensures packet will not leave pipe faster than it would be on real link with given bandwidth. Fast mode allows certain packets to bypass dummynet scheduler (if packet flow does not exceed pipe's bandwidth). Thus fast mode requires less cpu cycles per packet (in average) but packet latency can be significantly lower comparing to real link with same bandwidth. Default is normal mode, fast mode can be enabled by setting net.inet.ip.dummynet.io_fast sysctl(8) variable to non-zero value. kes# ping 10.10.16.18 PING 10.10.16.18 (10.10.16.18): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=18.441 ms 64 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=11.501 ms 64 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=11.516 ms 64 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=11.557 ms 64 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=11.534 ms ^C --- 10.10.16.18 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 11.501/12.910/18.441/2.766 ms #ipfw pipe 1 show 00001: 65.536 Kbit/s 0 ms 5 sl. 12 queues (64 buckets) GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 mask: 0x00 0xffffffff/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp kes# ipfw add 1 pipe 1 all from 10.10.16.1 to 10.10.16.18 00001 pipe 1 ip from 10.10.16.1 to 10.10.16.18 kes# ping -s 1472 10.10.16.18 PING 10.10.16.18 (10.10.16.18): 1472 data bytes 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=192.354 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=184.393 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=184.614 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=184.217 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=184.402 ms ^C --- 10.10.16.18 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 184.217/185.996/192.354/3.181 ms As I describe earlier: bw capability of this pipe is 8Kbytes/sec. It means 8Kb will be trasfered with timeout of 1sec. 1500bytes will be trasfered with timeout: 1500/8000 ~0.187sec You can see time=184 in ping result. All is Ok. Now when I: kes# sysctl net.inet.ip.dummynet.io_fast=1 net.inet.ip.dummynet.io_fast: 0 -> 1 kes# ping -s 1472 10.10.16.18 PING 10.10.16.18 (10.10.16.18): 1472 data bytes 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=191.224 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=183.568 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=183.595 ms ^C --- 10.10.16.18 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 183.568/186.129/191.224/3.603 ms As you can see there is no differences with previous test ping. BUT!!! "packet flow does not exceed pipe's bandwidth"! it is 1500 of 8000 So I EXPECT "packets bypass dummynet scheduler" and "packet latency can be significantly lower" Real link speed is 100Mbps so EXPECTED time is as without pipe: kes# ping -s 1472 10.10.16.18 PING 10.10.16.18 (10.10.16.18): 1472 data bytes 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=1.255 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.620 ms 1480 bytes from 10.10.16.18: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.624 ms ^C --- 10.10.16.18 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.620/0.833/1.255/0.298 ms So if any know pls answer: 1. "certain packets to bypass dummynet scheduler" Which packets will bypass scheduler? 2. in my case "packet flow does not exceed pipe's bandwidth", so "latency MUST be significantly lower" but it IS NOT. Why? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:38:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB391065672 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0D18FC1D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k32so3245907rnd.12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:38:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.154.6 with SMTP id b6mr838213ybe.95.1233175123901; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:38:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:38:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:38:46 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Jan 28), Jaime said: >> /usr/bin/tar -cvpX /usr/local/etc/backups/skiplist-relative.txt -f /dev/sa0 -C / . > > If nothing else, I suggest bumping up your blocksize. The default for tar > (10k) is pretty small for modern tape drives. Try -b 128 (for a 64k block > size). Another optimization would be to put a buffering program in between > tar and your tape drive to decouple disk reads from tape writes. misc/team, > misc/buffer, and misc/cstream in ports are good for this. Thanks. Would this decrease the ability of other Unixes being able to read the tape? For example, using pax (which can read tar archives) or GNU's tar? Sadly, I forgot to mention something in my last message. Sorry. When reading from the tape using tar (bsdtar from FreeBSD 6.2 -- and, yes, I'm preparing a cvsup as I write this :) ) the tape drive's Alarm and Fault LEDs are lit up and then camcontrol devlist no longer shows the tape drive. After I wrote to the tape via a quick boot into Knoppix, I found that FreeBSD's tar command could list the files on the tape. So maybe that is in the past now. Maybe not. I should have mentioned it earlier. Sorry. Any other thoughts before I try to OS update and the larger block size? Jaime From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 20:48:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F311065782 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D688FC1B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so705534fga.35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.116.10 with SMTP id k10mr563723faq.100.1233174257303; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from haydn.nognu.de (haydn.nognu.de [81.169.170.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm398508eyg.35.2009.01.28.12.24.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:24:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:25:56 +0100 From: Frank Steinborn To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:48:38 -0000 Hi folks, I have a strange problem on my 7.1-RELEASE with ezjail here. I have 5 jails configured with ezjail, and they run flawlessy - they come up on boot without problems. However, if i stop a jail (via /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail.sh stop ) and then want to restart it via the rc-script, it stalls here: # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail.sh start mldonkey.local Configuring jails:. Starting jails: If I check with jls and 'pgrep -lfj ', i see that there are processes inside the hanging jail running, including /etc/rc. I guess the jails are hanging somewhere in the boot-process, and i guess it's /etc/rc. I even doubt that this is an ezjail-only problem, but this is just a guess. Any hints? Thanks, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:13:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C56106566C; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scheidell@secnap.net) Received: from fl.us.spammertrap.net (fl.us.spammertrap.net [204.89.241.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497BF8FC1D; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scheidell@secnap.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fl.us.spammertrap.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D05E60A2; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:55:12 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=secnap.net; h= content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :user-agent:from:date:message-id; s=dkim; t=1233176111; x= 1234990511; bh=///WBzeV+NS0aa6p8jhEDSAbggGSlxSi1ZOIOck/SWc=; b=L MpLuq2tkFHITsjuSUbo3/TQ025O63Nn8ILyAsUH3x+qeNxN35FlT/cklhLxy6oXg 1/SBdUQBHyL7KDBgNkMVcmuI4QUDomWgYQ5k05o8CuVonPndL4Uz6+45eWbnMxte CCdwmERHIIVIiqIyNEKmAOcsduu0v6M7K/ydC2YpsQ= X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - fl.us.spammertrap.net X-Virus-Scanned: SpammerTrap(r) SME-150 1.93 at fl.us.spammertrap.net Received: from secnap3.secnap.com (secnap3.secnap.com [204.89.241.130]) by fl.us.spammertrap.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66B7E609F; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from Mikes-Laptop.local ([10.70.3.3] RDNS failed) by secnap3.secnap.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:55:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4980C658.10505@secnap.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:55:52 -0500 From: Michael Scheidell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Steinborn References: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> In-Reply-To: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2009 20:55:10.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5930170:01C9818A] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:13:07 -0000 I installed the jail utilities (forgot which ones) has a 'jkill' utility. I then added a /etc/rc.conf.d/ezjail with a pre-stop() command that calls a jkill. then all works fine. Frank Steinborn wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have a strange problem on my 7.1-RELEASE with ezjail here. I have 5 > jails configured with ezjail, and they run flawlessy - they come up on > boot without problems. > > However, if i stop a jail (via /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail.sh stop > ) and then want to restart it via the rc-script, it stalls here: > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail.sh start mldonkey.local > Configuring jails:. > Starting jails: > > If I check with jls and 'pgrep -lfj ', i see that there are processes > inside the hanging jail running, including /etc/rc. I guess the > jails are hanging somewhere in the boot-process, and i guess it's > /etc/rc. > > I even doubt that this is an ezjail-only problem, but this is just a > guess. > > Any hints? > > Thanks, > Frank > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 > *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Certified SNORT Integrator * King of Spam Filters, SC Magazine 2008 * Information Security Award 2008, Info Security Products Guide * CRN Magazine Top 40 Emerging Security Vendors * Finalist 2009 Network Products Guide Hot Companies _________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.secnap.com/products/spammertrap/ _________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:18:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED9610656E4 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E178FC20 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 98tS1b0071GXsucA99Jgfb; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:40 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 99Jf1b00k1f6R9u8T9Jg3k; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:40 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:18:38 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:18:38 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090128211838.GN66858@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <1233152702.2741.10.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <20090128193843.V25390@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090128193843.V25390@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.x/FreeBSD 7.0 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:49 -0000 On Wed 28 Jan 2009 at 10:38:56 PST Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>If you're looking for something "serious" (I mean with >>incremental/differential/full backups, retension periods, pools, multi >>platform, tape/file/dvd support, ...) I highly suggest Bacula >>(http://www.bacula.org). > >how you define "serious"? Um, isn't his definition already there, between the parentheses? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:22:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D4C1065670; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB02B8FC18; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so4796605ewy.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.110.3 with SMTP id l3mr5164676fap.49.1233177772326; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from haydn.nognu.de (haydn.nognu.de [81.169.170.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm332523eyh.41.2009.01.28.13.22.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:22:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:24:31 +0100 From: Frank Steinborn To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Message-ID: <20090128212431.GB30226@haydn.nognu.de> References: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> <20090128210100.P45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090128210100.P45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:22:54 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:02:35PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > if it's network services hanging on startup, check firewall and > resolve.conf inside the jail or wait a few minutes to let possible dns > queries timeout. > Also tpcdumping on the nase system for the jail IP might give a clue > in that case. > > If it's something else that's hanging you can find out easily looking > at jail startup logs and/or the last process started inside the > jail... > > /bz I guess i found a possible answer to my problem: The jail is running mldonkey, which is started via /etc/rc.conf. If I don't start it, the jail comes up as expected. These are the last two processes spawned in the jail: 37947 p3 T+J 0:00.01 su -l mldonkey -c /bin/sh -c ^I"/usr/local/bin/mlnet ^I ^I ^I>> /dev/null 2>&1 &" 37948 p3 TJ 0:00.01 -su -c /bin/sh -c ^I"/usr/local/bin/mlnet ^I ^I ^I>> /dev/null 2>&1 &" (zsh) It's suspicious that there are ^I's in there. And as a side-note: Other jails have the same problem, with completely different services to start up. What to do about it? If I start mldonkey manually when the jail came up, it works as expected, but this is really suboptimal... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:24:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A9A10656C6 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269FC8FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10A141C6A3; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:05:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q9SzheGfJteR; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:05:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 5002D41C6A1; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:05:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DF24448E6; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:02:35 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Frank Steinborn In-Reply-To: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> Message-ID: <20090128210100.P45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:24:13 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Frank Steinborn wrote: ... > jails are hanging somewhere in the boot-process, and i guess it's > /etc/rc. > > I even doubt that this is an ezjail-only problem, but this is just a > guess. > > Any hints? if it's network services hanging on startup, check firewall and resolve.conf inside the jail or wait a few minutes to let possible dns queries timeout. Also tpcdumping on the nase system for the jail IP might give a clue in that case. If it's something else that's hanging you can find out easily looking at jail startup logs and/or the last process started inside the jail... /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb The greatest risk is not taking one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:27:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BD7106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09DC8FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 18098 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jan 2009 21:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 2009 21:27:40 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id EF1C128429; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:27:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:27:39 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Jaime Message-ID: <20090128212739.GB74728@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:27:43 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:38:43PM -0500, Jaime wrote: > > > > In the last episode (Jan 28), Jaime said: > >> /usr/bin/tar -cvpX /usr/local/etc/backups/skiplist-relative.txt -f /dev/sa0 -C / . [...] > Any other thoughts before I try to OS update and the larger block size? You list -v as a tar option. Is tar sticking on a file? Another question is whether or not tar could be getting caught in a hard link or symbolic link infinite loop? Look for duplicates in the output. uniq(1) should be of assistance. Perhaps uniq needs a sort(1) to preprocess, I forget? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:45:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62336106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E638FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309DDAFC1FE; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:45:18 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:45:17 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <200901270732.57972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <200901281424.50680.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <200901281424.50680.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281245.17970.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:45:19 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:24:50 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: > > Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of > > downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any better. > > If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to agree. Right, you really want to do buildworld on a production machine that experiences random reboots. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:45:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EFD106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: from maxine.cjones.org (chris.static.mt.net [206.127.66.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF4B8FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: by maxine.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 35F33A6B41; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:29:06 -0700 (MST) From: Keith Seyffarth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:29:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: issues with X not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:45:56 -0000 On freebsd 6.0, I started having issues with X on Friday, and by Sunday, clicking buttons on the XFCE toolbar or choosing menu items from the XFCE menu weren't working. Subsequent to this, X would just hang when I run startx. I think what may have started this was trying to portupgrade gnucash, because it looks like some port items that were dependencies for other things (xorg-protos, for example) have been removed from the ports system. so, I tried portupgrade for xfce4, which tells me everything is current. Then I tried portupgrade xorg, which did upgrade a lot of things. This got me to a point where I can run startx, and rather than hanging, it, um, crashes gracefully. I receive this error: (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" Parse error on line 75 of section Files in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf "RgbPath" is not a valid keyword in this section. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file Fatal server error: no screens found giving up. I can comment out line 75 referred to above, but that seems to put me back to where I was before trying to upgrade: startx hangs the computer... Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Keith S. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:49:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259F710656F6 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0778FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan-a.emsphone.com [199.67.51.107]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n0SLnefH009892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:49:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SLnejo004218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:49:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0SLndKh004215; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:49:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:49:39 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jaime Message-ID: <20090128214938.GE63837@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:49:41 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:49:46 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 28), Jaime said: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > > In the last episode (Jan 28), Jaime said: > >> /usr/bin/tar -cvpX /usr/local/etc/backups/skiplist-relative.txt -f /dev/sa0 -C / . > > > > If nothing else, I suggest bumping up your blocksize. The default for > > tar (10k) is pretty small for modern tape drives. Try -b 128 (for a 64k > > block size). Another optimization would be to put a buffering program > > in between tar and your tape drive to decouple disk reads from tape > > writes. misc/team, misc/buffer, and misc/cstream in ports are good for > > this. > > Thanks. Would this decrease the ability of other Unixes being able to > read the tape? For example, using pax (which can read tar archives) > or GNU's tar? It shouldn't. At worst you may have to specify a matching blocksize argument when reading. > Sadly, I forgot to mention something in my last message. Sorry. > > When reading from the tape using tar (bsdtar from FreeBSD 6.2 -- and, > yes, I'm preparing a cvsup as I write this :) ) the tape drive's Alarm > and Fault LEDs are lit up and then camcontrol devlist no longer shows > the tape drive. According to http://downloads.quantum.com/dlt_v4/DLT-V4_Product_Manual_81-81422-03_A01.pdf#page=67 , there is no alarm LED on a DLT-V4 drive, just Ready, Fault, Clean, and Media. If the Fault light is lit solid, it says that's an "Internal firmware error". If Fault and Clean are blinking slowly, you may have a bad tape or may need to put a cleaning tape in. > After I wrote to the tape via a quick boot into Knoppix, I found that > FreeBSD's tar command could list the files on the tape. So maybe that is > in the past now. Maybe not. I should have mentioned it earlier. Sorry. > > Any other thoughts before I try to OS update and the larger block size? -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:49:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE6A1065709 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B5E8FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so7753166gxk.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:49:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.150.13 with SMTP id c13mr101241ybo.156.1233179398675; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:49:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090128212739.GB74728@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> <20090128212739.GB74728@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:49:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Nelson Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:50:03 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Kelly wrote: > You list -v as a tar option. Is tar sticking on a file? I just added that to my script in order to see what was going on. I didn't use it a week ago. I'm dumping straight to the tar drive. Look at the tar command again and you'll see /dev/sa0 in there. :) > Another question is whether or not tar could be getting caught in a hard > link or symbolic link infinite loop? Look for duplicates in the output. > uniq(1) should be of assistance. Perhaps uniq needs a sort(1) to > preprocess, I forget? Not a bad thought. However, I'm certain that there is no recursion going on. The delays are happening too early on for that. Also, this script works well if I target an external HD but never finishes on the tape. Thanks for the idea. I hadn't considered it before. Jaime From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:50:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0737210657F9 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE7E8FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6E1AFC206; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:50:40 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:50:40 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> In-Reply-To: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281250.40205.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Frank Steinborn Subject: Re: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:50:41 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:25:56 Frank Steinborn wrote: > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail.sh start mldonkey.local > Configuring jails:. > Starting jails: > > If I check with jls and 'pgrep -lfj ', i see that there are processes > inside the hanging jail running, including /etc/rc. I guess the > jails are hanging somewhere in the boot-process, and i guess it's > /etc/rc. Install sysutils/pstree. On the host, type pstree|less. Search for the rc process, then see what's running 'underneath' it. Those scripts/services are hanging and take it from there. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:51:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530FF106568C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AA48FC2E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SLotWU025850; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:50:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0SLote5025847; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:50:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:50:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jaime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090128225005.N25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:51:07 -0000 > I am trying to replace an older DLT tape drive (which doesn't like to > eject tapes any more) with a new Quantum DLT-4 drive. Its connected > by internal SCSI and seems to be set up right. But after DAYS of > running a tar command, its still not done backing up 60GB. The old > drive could backup 70-80GB in about 7 hours. try mt setblk 0 and then tar -b 64 some drives gets locked with small blocks. and most can get locked with improper termination ;) check it. > > I changed my backup script to include a -v flag in the tar command, > and it now lists hundreds or possibly thousands of files. But it > never even gets to /home before I killed the process (after 9 hours in > this case). > > Any suggestions? > > If it helps, the backup script and output from camcontrol follows. > However, this script is the same one that worked on the other drive. > A quick test with a Knoppix disk suggested that the backups ran faster > in Linux. Not positive of this, but it might be true. > > $ cat /etc/periodic/daily/910.backups > #!/bin/sh > # > > echo > echo "Tape archives:" > > dow=`/bin/date +%w` > if test "$dow" -gt 1; > then > echo " Beginning backup." > /usr/bin/uptime > /usr/bin/tar -cvpX /usr/local/etc/backups/skiplist-relative.txt -f > /dev/sa0 -C / . > /usr/bin/uptime > else > echo " Today is a weekend. Skipping backups." > fi > > > $ camcontrol devlist > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0) > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1) > at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2) > at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass3) > at scbus2 target 4 lun 0 (sa0,pass4) > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > Jaime > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:52:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156791065753 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A228FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SLpiFK025861; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:51:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0SLpidS025858; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:51:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:51:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jaime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090128225115.G25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:52:09 -0000 >> misc/buffer, and misc/cstream in ports are good for this. > > Thanks. Would this decrease the ability of other Unixes being able to > read the tape? For example, using pax (which can read tar archives) > or GNU's tar? no just use -b in other unices too :) > When reading from the tape using tar (bsdtar from FreeBSD 6.2 -- and, > yes, I'm preparing a cvsup as I write this :) ) the tape drive's Alarm > and Fault LEDs are lit up and then camcontrol devlist no longer shows > the tape drive. TERMINATION PROBLEM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:53:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10DB1065827 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54A98FC33 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (67.158.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.158.67]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BA1B2633301; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1649C0C6; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:13 +0100 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: weif@weif.net Message-ID: <20090128225313.6097f792@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> References: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues with X not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:53:20 -0000 Le Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:29:06 -0700 (MST), Keith Seyffarth a écrit : > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > Parse error on line 75 of section Files in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf > "RgbPath" is not a valid keyword in this section. > (EE) Problem parsing the config file > (EE) Error parsing the config file > Does anyone have any suggestions? Yes, please see /usr/ports/UPDATING, Xorg was updated. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 21:54:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED84410656EB for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AD28FC30 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SLrhKf025882; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0SLrfkJ025879; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:41 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mario Lobo In-Reply-To: <13724607.1233167991636.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> Message-ID: <20090128225316.H25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <13724607.1233167991636.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: exFAT File System Format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:54:03 -0000 still "improving" this crap? can't they just add UFS? On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Mario Lobo wrote: > > Hi guys; > News: > http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!5216.entry?w > a=wsignin1.0&sa=911422520 > Any chance of this being supported on FBSD so we can dump ntfs for > good? > Thanks, > Mario > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:01:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BF4106587D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9E28FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 2047 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jan 2009 22:01:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 2009 22:01:32 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 306AD28429; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:01:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:01:32 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20090128220132.GA74970@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> <20090128214938.GE63837@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090128214938.GE63837@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jaime Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:01:35 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:49:39PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jan 28), Jaime said: > > > > Thanks. Would this decrease the ability of other Unixes being able > > to read the tape? For example, using pax (which can read tar > > archives) or GNU's tar? > > It shouldn't. At worst you may have to specify a matching blocksize > argument when reading. I once had problems with an SGI user writing tapes with megabyte block size. Works on ancient SGI IRIX but nowhere else that I know of. Worse, IRIX remembered the last block size used on a tape device, across multiple users. Learned to always set block size when writing else no telling how it would go. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:06:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D681065720 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001AB8FC1D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so2858705yxb.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:06:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.11.19 with SMTP id o19mr1576730ybi.154.1233180415334; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:06:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090128225115.G25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> <20090128225115.G25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:06:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:06:57 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> When reading from the tape using tar (bsdtar from FreeBSD 6.2 -- and, >> yes, I'm preparing a cvsup as I write this :) ) the tape drive's Alarm >> and Fault LEDs are lit up and then camcontrol devlist no longer shows >> the tape drive. > > TERMINATION PROBLEM I was thinking of that... I shut down the server and checked the usual suspects (terminator on the cable, SCSI IDs, etc.) but didn't find anything out of place. Also, the same command in Knoppix (Linux) using /dev/st0 (the Linux equivalent of /dev/sa0) appeared to write to the tape and then list the items on that tape. I didn't see how long it would take, though. In retrospect, maybe I should have let that run longer. :( How certain are you that its a termination problem? Thanks, Jaime From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:14:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBCE106584D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4148A8FC22 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so2859944yxb.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:14:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=cjFU1EL8PbgjlMvLZCSL9+ujfa9zXb9ps6lU2bZteq8=; b=qbVBMyCmarFwBqLxjoqNizIbEhCzQ59Cmu+vheIbHVICq9YvzTiMfYukOUzAMelVtG ySNh7YwYuQ1kqDxb8gFgMaNdhn6r8A94x5zA/jI4sbCClRtWt10nl2mDQBCIY3Vpty7Y fX1xd2g4JPIQ4ZlYB7+i3OTzUHBtEI0txxj54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=aayAfy+X8OzcGS3IJo1sV/hxLgtThew23Pm456UVqA3IMh7oIjFkJ9vkeysfRLWC4R L+aEPlJwe5HWOwNA6h66A+Z8Vynla9dpkSxH3jXBkWM0dBZANwTCz4Nigp5DSzFbDqht BBvUeAw92D7ksY4hcPzs+N/p8gda4/XCAS8fc= Received: by 10.100.92.2 with SMTP id p2mr1163771anb.52.1233180839952; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c40sm281936anc.8.2009.01.28.14.13.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:13:58 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:13:42 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: chkrootkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:14:02 -0000 Hi! My system: new installed FreeBSD 7.1, KDE 3.5.10 I ran chkrootkit and I got: ... Checking `sshd'... /usr/bin/strings: Warning: '/' is not an ordinary file ... ... Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... Possible t0rn v8 \(or variation\) rootkit installed... I ran rkhunter -c also and on the end I have: System checks summary ===================== File properties checks... Required commands check failed Files checked: 103 Suspect files: 0 Rootkit checks... Rootkits checked : 77 Possible rootkits: 0 Applications checks... Applications checked: 4 Suspect applications: 0 I am confused about chkrootkit and the line: Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... Possible t0rn v8 \(or variation\) rootkit installed... Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:16:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B38E106590B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2D28FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so749537fga.35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:16:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IqRioBsiabd3FhONmuMmwBlb2EX/R0bribYqCaO+p8U=; b=w6D1GXxMQ5P+w+xomMZlxdbf2anEu66tCE0WoEVRhqV1c2eOlYhSBTLfj2xj9CUTgs BOQChQWhC2iFxJ5KTYw+QpSo4UlRHkMPzuZw9RfoPcmRK0yiHFpFNVq4/zfoquSZK2l4 i8nNyx7AU61QYtL7o9yUsjPEeKmEpNL1NCvqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qEv4rsvesjDowFReyB3/7bbs9T5ZwBKWEnP+cykeTEC8GU37MyLeqf6b4OrhlgP2kE BcwdxdlWP7zgcnHDGEJkBjEVqRhAXd0vMc+EjYAFelbyEuYDjrc2wNklps9PZSEt25Uz 8AvKOPy3Qm/NTAnDyz2ciQHQbtFnDGUbpFQX8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.145.6 with SMTP id x6mr2167056bkn.25.1233181013066; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:16:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:16:53 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: security holes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:16:55 -0000 I'm running 7.0-RELEASE and I want to defer upgrading to the current update (currently p9) and/or upgrading to 7.1 for as long as possible. I occasionally csup /usr/src and have a gander at /usr/src/UPDATING, but I don't understand to the fullest extent what security holes may affect my system. What do you suggest that I do so that I am informed immediately when I need to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to something else because of a security hole that affects my system? How will I know? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:25:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA3B1065670 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5252C8FC1F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA79053EA0D2; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:25:04 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NCC65Rhruzkn; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:25:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:20a:95ff:fed5:10f2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A1C853EA04A; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:25:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: From: Kirk Strauser To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200901281245.17970.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:24:59 -0600 References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <200901270732.57972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <200901281424.50680.kirk@strauser.com> <200901281245.17970.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:25:05 -0000 On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:24:50 Kirk Strauser wrote: >> On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: >>> Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of >>> downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any >>> better. >> >> If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to >> agree. > > Right, you really want to do buildworld on a production machine that > experiences random reboots. That would make the situation worse how? The worst case is that it fails during installkernel, leaving him to boot from kernel.old. -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:30:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EDA1065689 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D36A8FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so4894207ewy.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:30:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zdme26L1WmFP7Wr06b+hJM6WgK05ZPqOQp4xcoHSYjY=; b=NJpczwPKdU1Z6zDktc+Z3HQbFeLTyTLsTzi3jIMbujR5gtMxt1gjwtYUUSoLKxKHpo FOUJxgir2GOo1tBiTpE79apxz+1kGQetSm4CSjGIOROpnLZ8pyujRdeLwQl/XPTwH1fJ teyHOqh7n7kKV4Huvb8xHRhDaRkfECitOzU7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n8X178pU022Thsd4sw5BkrV6TTfLBS6pYbYqyNmXk2tevd41HIPog99U68UxYNQZF4 eCy5VPjlKWs4JTxxlyxcFfFiirGl8BnyGkIq75dc9b6tzyg2Wn1EVzMIgVNbr/Nkt4Z8 INXzv4hQ8xeGjxSbfL/YVo8yHKl8+3XChEAdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.20 with SMTP id z20mr570579fao.28.1233181854779; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:30:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310901281430t5fb4f3c7racfc2dc1e1a90350@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: ajtiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chkrootkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:30:56 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:13 PM, ajtiM wrote: > Hi! > > My system: new installed FreeBSD 7.1, KDE 3.5.10 > > I ran chkrootkit and I got: > > ... > Checking `sshd'... /usr/bin/strings: Warning: '/' is not an ordinary file > ... > ... > Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found > Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... Possible t0rn v8 \(or variation\) rootkit > installed... > Have you properly updated chrootkit? If so, it appears you have a rootkit on your system. How old is the installation? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:33:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ABB106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@nicoelro.net) Received: from mail.nicoelro.net (helm.nicoelro.net [87.98.216.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669018FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@nicoelro.net) Received: by mail.nicoelro.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id 48A1E78F3A; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:33:00 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on helm.nicoelro.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from orthanc (mne69-8-82-247-37-160.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.37.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nicolas@nicoelro.net) by mail.nicoelro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7479478D3F; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:32:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:32:59 +0100 From: Nicolas Letellier To: Mel Message-Id: <20090128233259.c864fb41.nicolas@nicoelro.net> In-Reply-To: <200901280927.04636.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <20090128174753.8d2b15b5.nicolas@nicoelro.net> <200901280927.04636.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build dovecot with bdb support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:01 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:27:04 -0900 Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 07:47:53 Nicolas Letellier wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I use FreeBSD-6.3. I want to install dovecot port with dbd support. > > However, that's impossible. See my error: > > > > hecking for pam/pam_appl.h... no > > checking for pam_setcred in -lpam... yes > > checking for auth_userokay... no > > checking db_env_create in -ldb... no > > configure: error: Can't build with db support: libdb not found > > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > Please report the problem to yds@CoolRat.org [maintainer] and attach the > > "/usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-1.1.8/config.log" including the > > The answer is in there. Works for me with db46. Could you show the part of > config.log where it says it fails? > Search for "checking db_env_create in -ldb" and anything below that will be > helpful. I built db46 port, but I was the same error whel building dovecot... The log says: configure:27631: checking db_env_create in -ldb configure:27660: cc -o conftest -std=gnu99 -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -I/usr/local/include/db41 -L/usr/local/lib -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -W -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wpointer-arith -Wchar-subscripts -Wformat=2 -Wbad-function-cast -I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -ldb >&5 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb Regards, -- -Nicolas. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:22:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59561065686 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A9D8FC18 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7281446rvf.43 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:22:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=klOxWoA1PqSXnQjBFVrXDjzTasm+f1fjh1TZg5yHpTs=; b=T5o57AhGP0UAl1axyv5Lo8Ko0s7R8tn4TePF1fUZ2ptaDbiuPCZkLCYllxN035+rY9 O8qraDv5ZnTNr0jOEhr8MqkXfR07Z9/xf2qlWOzDMOhgAt90K90zwQOhXNTSy+IEuKEc PRq7SfppzrF1kbkknQM0RPnxXIme1zO2Ey1CQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JB47wAUvyIbyuRLicqMunk54hdsGF5ot2868CFOzLJXLVEsJRHArf6UcMzaJxXeWyv sYw1+mWW+oDJc0VDvMjGigeALUkG4auniL0IVdP1bSihIQKqTjCV611uKuErN4g5yvI3 TyUKBmnmuxw4Q3YnToQ819hAFL0zAYpy+bec0= Received: by 10.142.47.6 with SMTP id u6mr504856wfu.7.1233181332247; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm3696928wfg.59.2009.01.28.14.22.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:22:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4980DA8E.7050708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:22:06 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:34:51 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security holes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:22:13 -0000 Nerius Landys wrote: > What do you suggest that I do so that I am informed immediately when I > need to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to something else because of a > security hole that affects my system? How will I know? subscribe to security-advisories@freebsd.org check past ones here: http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories.html -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:34:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546CD10656F6 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4068FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 21844 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jan 2009 22:34:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 28 Jan 2009 22:34:52 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id E59D828429; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:34:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:34:51 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Jaime Message-ID: <20090128223451.GA75178@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> <20090128225115.G25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:34:55 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:06:55PM -0500, Jaime wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Wojciech Puchar > > > > TERMINATION PROBLEM > > I was thinking of that... I shut down the server and checked the > usual suspects (terminator on the cable, SCSI IDs, etc.) but didn't > find anything out of place. Also, the same command in Knoppix (Linux) > using /dev/st0 (the Linux equivalent of /dev/sa0) appeared to write to > the tape and then list the items on that tape. I didn't see how long > it would take, though. In retrospect, maybe I should have let that > run longer. :( > > How certain are you that its a termination problem? I'm tending to "certainly" agree. There are other things to consider as well, such as narrow, wide, ultra, and ultra-LVDT. Active termination and passive termination. Is there termination at the SCSI card? You said there was termination on the cable, but is there also on-board termination on the drive? No other drive on the bus has termination enabled? One terminator on each end of the bus, no more, no less. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:38:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB75D106564A; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2479A8FC08; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so760957fga.35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.28.15 with SMTP id f15mr892200bkj.187.1233182314778; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from haydn.nognu.de (haydn.nognu.de [81.169.170.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm402947eyz.30.2009.01.28.14.38.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:38:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:39:02 +0100 From: Frank Steinborn To: Mel Message-ID: <20090128223902.GA2183@haydn.nognu.de> References: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> <200901281250.40205.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901281250.40205.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:38:37 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:50:40PM -0900, Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:25:56 Frank Steinborn wrote: > > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail.sh start mldonkey.local > > Configuring jails:. > > Starting jails: > > > > If I check with jls and 'pgrep -lfj ', i see that there are processes > > inside the hanging jail running, including /etc/rc. I guess the > > jails are hanging somewhere in the boot-process, and i guess it's > > /etc/rc. > > Install sysutils/pstree. On the host, type pstree|less. Search for the rc > process, then see what's running 'underneath' it. Those scripts/services are > hanging and take it from there. Please see my reply to Bjoern, the two processes shown there are the ones hanging under /etc/rc... I don't have a clue why this happens, if i start the rc-script for this port manually, it works without a hitch. And even more noteable: On reboot, all comes up without a problem too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:40:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F311065686 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA998FC12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so7632922wfg.7 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:40:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BhukEpLIeFpDkyLUcSUGG4ZhTLJnsSVF/c3lMfWpUDg=; b=mhqg83bwEmsY9oCie54WIaHzGopBDRgRy8DNbcEs6b4GoyEGVqKao43YpO9J9iAoGi nPPr93pAtFQyE4hMubxereAd+5vr+Aflgcu9+gaTbXPycFLnPoRoUQKvxj6wnRl0R/xi 7akJuDrWnmWwUNe/koZGhNMwK3kcG/ipNV5XA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qu+nYP2R8EAXV86HMzeY8NDkiZOXfj2Rxg30iKI5pr/PL0w8zXOYT/grcLMwy404PX SxO775IiOTIov7yG61M6FJYztsPvKF8KTYLmnJzycLo+X3cJfh+WQod9RIWNH971jVsI s85WOY8eVZ/+amkSMKvziDswSJhOZrJhCtbvc= Received: by 10.143.9.9 with SMTP id m9mr3033009wfi.41.1233182456874; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm36558811wfi.58.2009.01.28.14.40.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:40:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4980DEF3.3010504@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:40:51 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4ad871310901281430t5fb4f3c7racfc2dc1e1a90350@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310901281430t5fb4f3c7racfc2dc1e1a90350@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chkrootkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:40:57 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:13 PM, ajtiM wrote: >> Hi! >> >> My system: new installed FreeBSD 7.1, KDE 3.5.10 >> >> I ran chkrootkit and I got: >> >> ... >> Checking `sshd'... /usr/bin/strings: Warning: '/' is not an ordinary file >> ... >> ... >> Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found >> Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... Possible t0rn v8 \(or variation\) rootkit >> installed... >> > > Have you properly updated chrootkit? If so, it appears you have a > rootkit on your system. How old is the installation? > > I think this post [1] might be relevant from the debian mailing list. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/12/msg02253.html -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:47:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8499106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F53C8FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SMlJ4p012644; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:47:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0SMlJdv012641; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:47:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:47:19 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Jaime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> <20090128225115.G25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:47:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:47:21 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Jaime wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >>> When reading from the tape using tar (bsdtar from FreeBSD 6.2 -- and, >>> yes, I'm preparing a cvsup as I write this :) ) the tape drive's Alarm >>> and Fault LEDs are lit up and then camcontrol devlist no longer shows >>> the tape drive. >> >> TERMINATION PROBLEM > > I was thinking of that... I shut down the server and checked the > usual suspects (terminator on the cable, SCSI IDs, etc.) but didn't > find anything out of place. Also, the same command in Knoppix (Linux) > using /dev/st0 (the Linux equivalent of /dev/sa0) appeared to write to > the tape and then list the items on that tape. I didn't see how long > it would take, though. In retrospect, maybe I should have let that > run longer. :( > > How certain are you that its a termination problem? It could just be a bad drive or tape, but termination was the first thing that came to mind for me also. The drive giving a fault on a read like that suggests it. Pardon the obvious, but remember that termination is needed at both ends of the SCSI bus, and only at the ends. There's also the issue of terminator power, which may have been supplied by the old drive but not by the new one. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:51:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B88106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89768FC0C for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5407EAFC1FE; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:51:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:51:23 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497ECECD.2060403@fxclub.org> <200901281245.17970.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281351.23115.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:51:25 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 13:24:59 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Mel wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:24:50 Kirk Strauser wrote: > >> On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: > >>> Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of > >>> downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any > >>> better. > >> > >> If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to > >> agree. > > > > Right, you really want to do buildworld on a production machine that > > experiences random reboots. > > That would make the situation worse how? The worst case is that it > fails during installkernel, leaving him to boot from kernel.old. The worst case is 1 to N random reboots during buildworld (been there, done that), leaving the filesystem inconsistent, needing an fsck -y, unless you trust background_fsck, then finding out it's the hardware, not the OS. It's easy to find out if the OS panics, by enabling crash dumps. Then you can still decide whether an upgrade might fix it and you may even get a clue as to which hardware or kernel subsystem is affected, if the kernel dumps. I've had a machine where I never got buildworld to finish, tried 4 or 5 times hoping to get lucky this time... Reapplying thermal paste to the CPU heatsink made everything work. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 22:57:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0496106564A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8582E8FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A201EEBC0A; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:57:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:57:05 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Nerius Landys Message-Id: <20090128175705.3677bafb.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security holes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:57:06 -0000 Nerius Landys wrote: > > I'm running 7.0-RELEASE and I want to defer upgrading to the current > update (currently p9) and/or upgrading to 7.1 for as long as possible. > I occasionally csup /usr/src and have a gander at /usr/src/UPDATING, > but I don't understand to the fullest extent what security holes may > affect my system. > > What do you suggest that I do so that I am informed immediately when I > need to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to something else because of a > security hole that affects my system? How will I know? Ascertaining what security holes will affect your system is complicated. If you have to ask this question, then I recommend that you apply all security updates immediately and always assume that every vulnerability is a potential problem for you. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 23:07:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7437106566B for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsk@gsp.org) Received: from taos.firemountain.net (taos.firemountain.net [207.114.3.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856098FC08 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsk@gsp.org) Received: from squonk.gsp.org (bltmd-207.114.25.46.dsl.charm.net [207.114.25.46]) by taos.firemountain.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0SMoLIM010612; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from avatar.gsp.org (avatar.gsp.org [192.168.0.11]) by squonk.gsp.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0SMeoML000744; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from avatar.gsp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by avatar.gsp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id n0SMoFkx023363; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:50:15 -0500 Received: (from rsk@localhost) by avatar.gsp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0SMoFhI023362; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:50:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:50:15 -0500 From: Rich Kulawiec To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:07:27 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:30:54PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > What we plan to do is backup a bunch of Unix systems to > one FreeBSD box and then use a commercial package to back that > box up to an enterprise-wide system we use. The archiver we need > must be able to make 1 full backup of each system like tar and > then incrementals until we are ready for another full backup. The best choice is dump, which was designed and built for exactly this purpose. (tar is fine for archives of static hierarchies, but it is not suitable for full-system backups.) Dump fully supports the concept of full/partial backups in a robust manner. (It has other useful features as well, notably its ability to deal with non-quiescent filesystems in a sensible way.) Excellent backup systems can be built with judicious use of dump -- you don't need to waste money on commercial products. [1] Depending on your specific requirements, it may be desirable to combine dump with other programs you already have (e.g., rysnc, gzip/bzip, scp, and so on). For example, I recently had occasion to build a system which backed up and replicated a multi-terabyte repository across a WAN. Using just the tools already on the system, and about 300 lines of shell (2/3 of which are comments), it wasn't that difficult to meet both requirements and do so in a way that minimized the bandwidth needed. This is really no big deal: it's just a matter of selecting the right tools and combining them -- which is the essence of the Unix philosophy. ---Rsk [1] Every commercial backup system I've evaluated for Unix -- over many, many years -- has produced inferior results. It pains me to watch people waste money on over-priced, under-performing and often-insecure commercial packages when they already have all the software they need...and just need to learn how to use it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 23:09:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8301065679 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC3F8FC35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0SNA3pW005217; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:09:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:09:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Andrew Gould Message-ID: <20090128230916.GA29328@thought.org> References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Reko Turja , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:09:23 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:32:57PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: > > > >so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a 10pt-font > > > >file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually hacking, > > > >this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is giong > > > >to > > > >be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR > > > >looks > > > >best so far to me. > > > > > > AABBYY Finereader - Omnipage haven't been able to catch it in several > > > years either feature or qualitywise. No idea if Finereader runs under > > > emulator though. If the file is already a PDF and 72 DPI with text as > > > graphics most of the damage has already been done, and it will be > > > extremely hard to OCR. > > > > > > > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the resolution? > > i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif files, but > > then that's really absurd since there can only be just so much > > data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and smoothing image to > > refine, but too much hassle. > > > > (i used gocr -m 130 and "saw" the glyphs it (presumably) saw. > > seemed pretty much okay to my eyes. but then i'm not a computer > > program. [MAYBE :)] > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > -Reko > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > Unix > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > > > At one point in time, the Abby folks were offering a back-end that ran on > FreeBSD. I tried to get the free download; but it never happened. (They > misplaced my signed, faxed license agreement and I finally got tired of the > back-and-forth prerequisite communication.) > > Abby also no longer supports Mac OS X. I use an old version and like it a > lot. > OK, now i know what to expect. I found theit site and signed up to get the linux version; trial. not likrly to go any further.... gary > Andrew -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 23:11:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E980510656C1 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781838FC17 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so682319fxm.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wy6jVlCKiqKZhwr1mreWxpKOsNtwhEITQ+L5d8yLHqg=; b=EXS7LEU6+ZK+cCGXa/aUtXwoeoPJQM4C+tT4Zha2zBAUjpgUD7yWk6Dv8ItN48IuU+ awbUbvpyXiPm5BTI9J1l1Fp9fdiDihjlOWvRHmy3DLJPuDY+XopoVscDdazFTBou9T/j GAFY4/6N6qb6bkawXZZTanmJ4H0jBUdNvB+Hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Qkm3MpNCupMXD3XkIkf5PPRHcl2XR2RWRgQ/o+T+Z9cF7Vl70ygTanljO6+d63AbnN xzLqj1/c03FLD3iN3D+r5LmSE2Zfn0mQUBQvF7wjFSqoQIrn+c0+W8mxDMIyp2NepOoa 1bfaHZDg5X+jX3mhZ0LKMDhY24ccfWuZBAT5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.208.11 with SMTP id k11mr582321bkq.180.1233184288515; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090128175705.3677bafb.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> <20090128175705.3677bafb.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:28 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92640901281511m55e3adc8l75d2b28b381920c8@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Bill Moran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security holes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:11:30 -0000 > Ascertaining what security holes will affect your system is complicated. > If you have to ask this question, then I recommend that you apply all > security updates immediately and always assume that every vulnerability > is a potential problem for you. Because 7.0 updates will no longer be made about a month from now, I guess this means that I should upgrade to 7.1? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 23:51:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5488F1065689 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965958FC14 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0SNp4vu026387; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:51:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0SNp3cR026384; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:51:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:51:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Rich Kulawiec In-Reply-To: <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> Message-ID: <20090129005050.J26376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:51:16 -0000 > purpose. (tar is fine for archives of static hierarchies, but it is not > suitable for full-system backups.) Dump fully supports the concept of > full/partial backups in a robust manner. (It has other useful features dump is perfect. period. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:06:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE7C106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012578FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097F25C2EBB9 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:07:52 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44zlhbo2w4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <1233019367.41990.88.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233025480.1751.13.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <1233028584.1110.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1233067663.18867.13.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <1233094843.1202.30.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <44zlhbo2w4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:05:55 +1000 Message-Id: <1233187555.1216.4.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: x11/libXrandr, x11-toolkits/libXmu, graphics/jasper fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:06:36 -0000 On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 10:40 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Da Rock writes: > > > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:47 -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > >> Em Ter, 2009-01-27 às 09:27 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > have you solved the problem yet? I also have libXmu failed to > >> > upgrade due to libxcb-xlib.la. Thanks!! > >> > >> I removed every instance of libxb-xlib.la from /usr/local/lib/*.la > >> than it all works again > >> > >> a shell script like: > >> ========================== > >> #!/bin/sh > >> > >> lista=`find /usr/local/lib -type f -name "*.la"` > >> > >> if [ -n "$lista" ] > >> then > >> for i in $lista > >> do > >> if grep $1 $i > /dev/null > >> then > >> sed -i "" "s|/usr/local/lib/$1||" $lista > >> fi > >> done > >> fi > >> ================================ > >> supose you name this shell -> XX > >> than..... > >> sh XX libxcb-xlib.la > >> will do the trick.... > >> > >> after that, you will be able to build things again. > > > > I've been talking to the porters and that would not be the recommended > > way of fixing this. Running portupgrade -a -rf libxcb resolves the > > issue. > > That probably isn't the exactly recommended form either. > "-a" and "-r" don't make sense together; the "-r" will be ignored, and > you will end up rebuilding *everything*. > Dunno, but it worked is all I can say... The only other alternative I suppose would be -rR, but I reckon that would probably amount ot the same thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:14:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3116A106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE70C8FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF78C5C2E61F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:16:03 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> References: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:14:08 +1000 Message-Id: <1233188048.1216.9.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: issues with X not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:14:45 -0000 On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 14:29 -0700, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > On freebsd 6.0, I started having issues with X on Friday, and by > Sunday, clicking buttons on the XFCE toolbar or choosing menu items > from the XFCE menu weren't working. Subsequent to this, X would just > hang when I run startx. > > I think what may have started this was trying to portupgrade gnucash, > because it looks like some port items that were dependencies for other > things (xorg-protos, for example) have been removed from the ports > system. > > so, I tried portupgrade for xfce4, which tells me everything is > current. Then I tried portupgrade xorg, which did upgrade a lot of > things. > > This got me to a point where I can run startx, and rather than > hanging, it, um, crashes gracefully. I receive this error: > > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > Parse error on line 75 of section Files in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf > "RgbPath" is not a valid keyword in this section. > (EE) Problem parsing the config file > (EE) Error parsing the config file > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > giving up. > > I can comment out line 75 referred to above, but that seems to put me > back to where I was before trying to upgrade: startx hangs the > computer... > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Check the libxcb thread on this list. Try running portupgrade -a -rf libxcb and wait patiently- it worked for me. Meanwhile, leave rgbpath uncommented if you have X ttys enabled or it'll annoy the shit out of you- comment it out as soon as portupgrade finishes and you'll have beloved X back :) If mouse doesn't work at this point you'll have to make sure dbus and hald are enabled under rc.conf and reboot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:19:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410FE1065673 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1B68FC22 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A9FAFC1FE; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:19:45 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:19:44 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090128174753.8d2b15b5.nicolas@nicoelro.net> <200901280927.04636.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090128233259.c864fb41.nicolas@nicoelro.net> In-Reply-To: <20090128233259.c864fb41.nicolas@nicoelro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281519.44870.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Nicolas Letellier Subject: Re: Cannot build dovecot with bdb support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:19:47 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 13:32:59 Nicolas Letellier wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:27:04 -0900 > > Mel wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 07:47:53 Nicolas Letellier wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > I use FreeBSD-6.3. I want to install dovecot port with dbd support. > > > However, that's impossible. See my error: > > > > > > hecking for pam/pam_appl.h... no > > > checking for pam_setcred in -lpam... yes > > > checking for auth_userokay... no > > > checking db_env_create in -ldb... no > > > configure: error: Can't build with db support: libdb not found > > > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > > Please report the problem to yds@CoolRat.org [maintainer] and attach > > > the "/usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-1.1.8/config.log" including > > > the > > > > The answer is in there. Works for me with db46. Could you show the part > > of config.log where it says it fails? > > Search for "checking db_env_create in -ldb" and anything below that will > > be helpful. > > I built db46 port, but I was the same error whel building dovecot... > The log says: > > configure:27631: checking db_env_create in -ldb > configure:27660: cc -o conftest -std=gnu99 -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 > -I/usr/local/include/db41 -L/usr/local/lib -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -W > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wpointer-arith > -Wchar-subscripts -Wformat=2 -Wbad-function-cast -I/usr/local/include > -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -ldb >&5 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb -L/usr/local/lib/db41 is missing above. Not entirely sure why that is. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:23:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2304F106564A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33138FC0A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB68AFC1FE; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:23:33 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:23:33 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> <20090128210100.P45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <20090128212431.GB30226@haydn.nognu.de> In-Reply-To: <20090128212431.GB30226@haydn.nognu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281523.33379.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Frank Steinborn Subject: Re: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:23:34 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 12:24:31 Frank Steinborn wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:02:35PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > if it's network services hanging on startup, check firewall and > > resolve.conf inside the jail or wait a few minutes to let possible dns > > queries timeout. > > Also tpcdumping on the nase system for the jail IP might give a clue > > in that case. > > > > If it's something else that's hanging you can find out easily looking > > at jail startup logs and/or the last process started inside the > > jail... > > > > /bz > > I guess i found a possible answer to my problem: The jail is running > mldonkey, which is started via /etc/rc.conf. If I don't start it, the > jail comes up as expected. These are the last two processes spawned in > the jail: > > 37947 p3 T+J 0:00.01 su -l mldonkey -c /bin/sh -c > ^I"/usr/local/bin/mlnet ^I ^I ^I>> /dev/null 2>&1 &" > 37948 p3 TJ 0:00.01 -su -c /bin/sh -c ^I"/usr/local/bin/mlnet ^I > ^I ^I>> /dev/null 2>&1 &" (zsh) ^^^ Why is zsh shell involved? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:42:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4006E1065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52308FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so2881363yxb.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:42:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Aza6tz3NOUbG0H7IzsqSB2C2ZKydojFRMidZi2tZIoE=; b=gcuPKIBszcdZ7AVfFevl92ryQTRZf6JLMKkbBQ3jiNPzO+nCuPvcFKmjhesZHrQL6L 0P2Mm6atgqWs1Ni8nDmV5/sjnGafKdnkfr7gC8nKeljXNE4CnA8YVOyw3Yv5KS/jMDof pLNcfxh6AR8xgjsBSJjhg2sNdfS1s3hoMWNRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nYX8FzjnlHL0gDJ0NzmycX9BObJcbKFAMFgSkSisW0Va3dpqGXqzvtdnbTFDbYoTJy mk/aH9rSGNwmC5uKyJy2uV+2jTeKzWnnyR78aT53Z6xi74Ks6vNpt+YXnVbC3hLbd62P xt4PoB/yZxG0xv1w0VZxzo0uLs3hD1dgx79pQ= Received: by 10.151.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr529536ybm.117.1233189721242; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? 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I'm running Xorg + windowmaker + the "radeon" driver on i386 > 7-STABLE > > My xorg.conf was built from scratch by "Xorg -configure", plus I added > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > to the "ServerLayout" section, per /usr/ports/UPDATING, since I'm not > running hal and I can't get keyboard or mouse otherwise. > > Everything appears to be great. My applications launch much faster than > they did before the upgrade. Shutting down and restarting X is the only > problem I'm having. This was not a problem before I upgraded to the new > Xorg. > > This is a desktop system. I launch X with "startx" from the console. I > can shut down X either by exiting windowmaker or by killing the Xorg > server with ctrl+alt+backspace. There appear to be some failure messages > on the console when I shut down X, but I don't know what they mean or > if they're important. I'm attaching a log below. I don't see any stuck > processes after the shutdown, but perhaps I don't know what I'm looking > for. > > If I later restart X with "startx", some corrupted graphical junk appears > on the screen and the system freezes solid. Keyboard and mouse are > completely unresponsive. NumLock light won't change. 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(CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c28sm21181914anc.25.2009.01.28.16.52.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:52:04 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: Glen Barber Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:51:48 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4ad871310901281430t5fb4f3c7racfc2dc1e1a90350@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310901281430t5fb4f3c7racfc2dc1e1a90350@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281851.48369.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chkrootkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:52:06 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 16:30:54 Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:13 PM, ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > > > > My system: new installed FreeBSD 7.1, KDE 3.5.10 > > > > I ran chkrootkit and I got: > > > > ... > > Checking `sshd'... /usr/bin/strings: Warning: '/' is not an ordinary > > file ... > > ... > > Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found > > Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... Possible t0rn v8 \(or variation\) > > rootkit installed... > > Have you properly updated chrootkit? If so, it appears you have a > rootkit on your system. How old is the installation? I installed chkrootkit from the ports and I have FreeBSD 7.1 about one week and just FreeBSD is on computer. Fresh installation and IMO I visited just "safe" web pages. I have a desktop computer, cable Internet. I have Skype installed but I didn't use yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:52:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6A21065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9848FC30 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaime@snowmoon.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2882916ywe.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:52:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.30.67 with SMTP id t3mr1067747ibc.21.1233190360609; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:52:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090129005050.J26376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> <20090129005050.J26376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Martin McCormick , Rich Kulawiec , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:52:43 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > dump is perfect. period. Is it possible to pull out individual files? A fellow sysadmin asked me that years ago and I didn't have an answer for him. Thanks, Jaime From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:58:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C52106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4158FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k32so3322311rnd.12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:58:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=3R4zE2MQwE7xVpheJQljzDFCu1Lfju79lC3Vd1I04sQ=; b=aIOkNkmMiwCqnmXcN/vK6gfxOFPmAbuWSX7IEeeY+lT5EWQDQmB19VMNjEwYQFvNDr wReYv+yJ1oX9JbvvXm5bCn8z1R2Qv7Bz2A3+xcYIxko+TrdMfOXpETyz+AwZvE0udedm mRWsGUQrT8g2aWys6Aa89krdxhc1i9hQpAt1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=qBVQ3xmpUOwnY8GhgkEFdqqqXH7PeWRxwQZfE+4N8mbYba9uE4WFfp3NOkq557ub0f 9+GQeagSxiJdgEU0lQLxscQE9yQN8mzB23ydfiq/gCDBCdeSBj1/SIrdZpLQBeuXJTN6 bnpdUstZw/Q/wLlUs9Zmbe+cKJRveCf7dgKGY= Received: by 10.100.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr5938321anu.106.1233190722331; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm21486188ana.59.2009.01.28.16.58.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:58:38 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4ad871310901281430t5fb4f3c7racfc2dc1e1a90350@mail.gmail.com> <4980DEF3.3010504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4980DEF3.3010504@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281858.38832.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chkrootkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:58:43 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 16:40:51 Eitan Adler wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:13 PM, ajtiM wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> My system: new installed FreeBSD 7.1, KDE 3.5.10 > >> > >> I ran chkrootkit and I got: > >> > >> ... > >> Checking `sshd'... /usr/bin/strings: Warning: '/' is not an ordinary > >> file ... > >> ... > >> Searching for t0rn's default files and dirs... nothing found > >> Searching for t0rn's v8 defaults... Possible t0rn v8 \(or variation\) > >> rootkit installed... > > > > Have you properly updated chrootkit? If so, it appears you have a > > rootkit on your system. How old is the installation? > > I think this post [1] might be relevant from the debian mailing list. > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/12/msg02253.html I red and supposed to be libproc.a problem I don't have experience with the chkrootkit and it is not clear for me where it found a rootkit: which file, dir... Thanks. . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 01:04:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FB3106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991DE8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so11639862qyk.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:04:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Rtfe71sB9DiMNwnOPhH9KZ2p6zbXe3Xi841bArmIFA0=; b=XAvtna/ZhZfHjinDjk2To2v59dMZy+R70IVMKXhnE4CpXwzi+1wH7sqYvtOIXZX9Bu 75246u+vGa7ILGZXqA9X2BBZLmfqK+0EPHbz2lNyz3I8UKCFtzDoUmu09bHSztjIg9ZW AUdMS19cKZ0GieZ4c4Z9b2gpXBIViFx0pnIHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=OcT5kJeVcL/3XbIzhGZ8fQ8hIcxi2JatZnEMwsUGUYh4ksvkwrnB6YXu8YfOf/GDUQ Otn9TL8zN0LpqouTJ3/oD7unEu54PvIQ8rrSVF6hg+7vd9qeXT2rqnidQgSStIlS6i2E gNQ/r5R/i6LSfyYNvFWPzFa1nAYdInp4cDaxI= Received: by 10.214.181.21 with SMTP id d21mr4522184qaf.1.1233191041652; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm13569498ywi.26.2009.01.28.17.04.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:04:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:04:27 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: ajtiM Message-ID: <20090129010427.GA13978@orion> References: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4ad871310901281430t5fb4f3c7racfc2dc1e1a90350@mail.gmail.com> <4980DEF3.3010504@gmail.com> <200901281858.38832.lumiwa@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901281858.38832.lumiwa@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chkrootkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:04:08 -0000 ajtiM said: > I red and supposed to be libproc.a problem > I don't have experience with the chkrootkit and it is not clear for me where > it found a rootkit: which file, dir... > The link Eitan posted is very clear. It is (most likely) a false alarm. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 01:09:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552791065673; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16FD8FC20; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so862902fga.35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.113.193 with SMTP id b1mr847698faq.77.1233191338729; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from haydn.nognu.de (haydn.nognu.de [81.169.170.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm843358eye.19.2009.01.28.17.08.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:08:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:09:26 +0100 From: Frank Steinborn To: Mel Message-ID: <20090129010926.GA6652@haydn.nognu.de> References: <20090128202556.GA30226@haydn.nognu.de> <20090128210100.P45963@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <20090128212431.GB30226@haydn.nognu.de> <200901281523.33379.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901281523.33379.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with ezjail: Manually restarted jails don't come up again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:09:04 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:23:33PM -0900, Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 12:24:31 Frank Steinborn wrote: > > I guess i found a possible answer to my problem: The jail is running > > mldonkey, which is started via /etc/rc.conf. If I don't start it, the > > jail comes up as expected. These are the last two processes spawned in > > the jail: > > > > 37947 p3 T+J 0:00.01 su -l mldonkey -c /bin/sh -c > > ^I"/usr/local/bin/mlnet ^I ^I ^I>> /dev/null 2>&1 &" > > 37948 p3 TJ 0:00.01 -su -c /bin/sh -c ^I"/usr/local/bin/mlnet ^I > > ^I ^I>> /dev/null 2>&1 &" (zsh) > ^^^ > Why is zsh shell involved? This was it. I should not have used the root-account inside the jails with zsh. I now use the toor account on zsh and put the shell of root back to csh everywhere. However, I don't understand why zsh is invoked, since all rc.d-scripts have shebang lines telling them to use /bin/sh? I'm a bit confused, maybe can someone give a bit light on this... However, it works now. Thanks, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 01:10:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD0C1065720 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EED48FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b38so1616410ana.13 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:10:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=AOMP26BnC2oonV3gBuiDPUkuDmmlgWkJrWgYpFTb2jo=; b=ADrZamggsrz+aSITqXzCeVWF7d/QgUNML1IAsruqaft85yVS10BJRxgTOel0krUDYJ ZXyjAWqzyv82u08itQXFHJRSIxvkrRqaKPv292+Sd68E7O5LnauDMHT/3A1x5V83KJh7 ullBvsFOLPu3YKUpDwudMZYT5SLeTWyj+YnMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=TQhIyppVf9kXz663nI9BA7snoMDp+kV6fyN4qbICJWcyJuF915dA/KcOtsAJOBQiSv S4slmbB9ACL6crs2e59wD9STtOl6xQN2+r8mwUTH8sq1OShRlA5RQhq+9KWtTItHmuZY VHVM7cw7okyPbsNjdjD51IWog62u7/udBeMtc= Received: by 10.100.14.2 with SMTP id 2mr1145966ann.13.1233191443499; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d38sm21636936and.9.2009.01.28.17.10.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:10:41 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:10:30 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901281613.43066.lumiwa@gmail.com> <200901281858.38832.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20090129010427.GA13978@orion> In-Reply-To: <20090129010427.GA13978@orion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901281910.30308.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: chkrootkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:10:45 -0000 On Wednesday 28 January 2009 19:04:27 Glen Barber wrote: > ajtiM said: > > I red and supposed to be libproc.a problem > > I don't have experience with the chkrootkit and it is not clear for me > > where it found a rootkit: which file, dir... > > The link Eitan posted is very clear. It is (most likely) a false alarm. Thank you very much, Ethan and Glen :). Yes, it is false alarm :). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 01:11:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE17106588B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4B28FC4D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.196] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0T1BMQ6068440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:11:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <8C7C91E3-AC11-4D02-833C-4F2BF1F90EBE@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: Jaime In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:11:22 -0800 References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> <20090129005050.J26376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Wojciech Puchar , Rich Kulawiec , Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:11:35 -0000 On Jan 28, 2009, at 16:52, Jaime wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >> dump is perfect. period. > > Is it possible to pull out individual files? A fellow sysadmin asked > me that years ago and I didn't have an answer for him. Most certainly. Use the restore function. Interactive mode is easiest for a small number of files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 01:33:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7BC106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1ED58FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so5025141ewy.19 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:33:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9XYi9DFMdm2CMoQGMZyKGNoSCmyxoBAzCAIh1uqJft4=; b=J4gLCAVqA6+xZ+abdNCYDcifepr96LAGKmfbbRyVUmJ0sZZ9MmeIzl84CNbZiJ/Ebc kRpIt7dHbke/OKWCBUyhaV/aa6dU5VtnninxBO18NZORW0auJYe6Nyt3vibo0C5ktSUX rTkFzZgyo1CsqoMNFGsmCU4BhSnUa8Yp49JvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tKQPHEGEtONInHveLMZR3U86tyKyoTCUtR0XJ1H/HL015wJzWLzNs9rrV7VJbN9PM5 av219awb4tttg178hir3r6NuMXkkM/ag0LJec2VjC65hnNnPf14jAeGb7iygNQf1b4Ws QeCAhE12PsE/xiiy3JntWyuDwlJNi4nTsTGIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.171.20 with SMTP id y20mr1491099muo.122.1233192821962; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:33:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090128230916.GA29328@thought.org> References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> <20090128230916.GA29328@thought.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:33:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Reko Turja , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:33:43 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:32:57PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: > > > > >so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a 10pt-font > > > > >file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually hacking, > > > > >this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is giong > > > > >to > > > > >be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR > > > > >looks > > > > >best so far to me. > > > > > > > > AABBYY Finereader - Omnipage haven't been able to catch it in several > > > > years either feature or qualitywise. No idea if Finereader runs under > > > > emulator though. If the file is already a PDF and 72 DPI with text > as > > > > graphics most of the damage has already been done, and it will be > > > > extremely hard to OCR. > > > > > > > > > > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the resolution? > > > i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif files, but > > > then that's really absurd since there can only be just so much > > > data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and smoothing image > to > > > refine, but too much hassle. > > > > > > (i used gocr -m 130 and "saw" the glyphs it (presumably) saw. > > > seemed pretty much okay to my eyes. but then i'm not a computer > > > program. [MAYBE :)] > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Reko > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > > Unix > > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > The 2.23a release of Jottings: > http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > > > > > > At one point in time, the Abby folks were offering a back-end that ran on > > FreeBSD. I tried to get the free download; but it never happened. (They > > misplaced my signed, faxed license agreement and I finally got tired of > the > > back-and-forth prerequisite communication.) > > > > Abby also no longer supports Mac OS X. I use an old version and like it > a > > lot. > > > > > OK, now i know what to expect. I found theit site and signed up > to get the linux version; trial. not likrly to go any > further.... > > gary > > > > Andrew > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > I'm rooting for you! :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 01:50:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF536106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2198FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0T1nM0c099149; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:49:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n0T1nM5j099148; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:49:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:49:22 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jaime Message-ID: <20090129014922.GA99132@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> <20090129005050.J26376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Wojciech Puchar , Rich Kulawiec , Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:50:38 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:52:40PM -0500, Jaime wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > > dump is perfect. period. > > Is it possible to pull out individual files? A fellow sysadmin asked > me that years ago and I didn't have an answer for him. Very easily. Just use restore -i Usually when I do that, I make a special direcory to receive things. (I usually call it 'unroll') That way I can put what I want there and then move it to where I want to, even if it is different from where it originally was. ////jerry > > Thanks, > Jaime > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 02:10:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF0D1065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsk@gsp.org) Received: from taos.firemountain.net (taos.firemountain.net [207.114.3.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FA58FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsk@gsp.org) Received: from squonk.gsp.org (bltmd-207.114.25.46.dsl.charm.net [207.114.25.46]) by taos.firemountain.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0T2A7Nx015662; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from avatar.gsp.org (avatar.gsp.org [192.168.0.11]) by squonk.gsp.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0T20Zir009486; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from avatar.gsp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by avatar.gsp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id n0T2A1Mq009982; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:10:01 -0500 Received: (from rsk@localhost) by avatar.gsp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0T29v4o009980; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:09:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:09:57 -0500 From: Rich Kulawiec To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20090129020957.GA9515@gsp.org> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> <20090129005050.J26376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <8C7C91E3-AC11-4D02-833C-4F2BF1F90EBE@lafn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8C7C91E3-AC11-4D02-833C-4F2BF1F90EBE@lafn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jaime Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:10:10 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:11:22PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > Most certainly. Use the restore function. Interactive mode is easiest > for a small number of files. Doug's correct. The interactive mode of restore, with its shell-like interface, is probably easiest if you're just looking for two files or one directory or similar. The non-interactive mode, which has a syntax similar to tar's, is probably easiest if you're going to restore many files/directories, or if you're going to restore an entire filesystem. Two notes to tuck away for future use: First, when you use interactive mode, you use shell-like commands (e.g., "cd", "ls") to navigate the directory hierarchy and pick out what you want to restore. You add each one to a list (that restore keeps track of for you) and then, when you've selected them all, you tell restore to extract them. This is point where restore will tell you that you haven't read any tapes yet, and ask you what tape to read. Tell it "1". There's a long explanation behind this that has to do with the days when 1600 BPI 9-track tapes were backup media, and dumps often spanned multiple tapes, and so on. Second, restore runs in user mode, so when it restores a file (or all the files in an entire filesystem) it creates them through the same mechanism any other user-mode program would. That means, from Unix's point of view, they're new files: new inode number, and all that. So if you're doing a major restore -- say, an entire filesystem -- then you probably want to follow that up with a level 0 dump if you plan to do partial dumps. Otherwise, those partial dumps aren't going to have what you probably want them to have. Arguably this is inconvenient but (a) it's a rare circumstance (b) it's not THAT inconvenient and (c) there's no good way around it without sacrificing a lot of the power of dump. Okay, three notes: it's often advisable to create a scratch directory and restore into that, just in case you fumble-finger something. Given that you're restoring, which means something has gone wrong, possibly a big something, you may be stressed and hurried, and thinking that this would be the worst possible time for something ELSE to go wrong. A scratch directory insulates you from most of that. (No, of course this is entirely based on other peoples' experiences, it would never relate to my own...why do you ask?) ---Rsk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 02:23:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09C5106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501118FC27 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0T2OahN006471; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:24:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:23:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:23:50 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Andrew Gould Message-ID: <20090129022349.GB34877@thought.org> References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> <20090128230916.GA29328@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Reko Turja , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:23:59 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:33:41PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:32:57PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: > > > > > >so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a 10pt-font > > > > > >file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually hacking, > > > > > >this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is giong > > > > > >to > > > > > >be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR > > > > > >looks > > > > > >best so far to me. > > > > > > > > > > AABBYY Finereader - Omnipage haven't been able to catch it in several > > > > > years either feature or qualitywise. No idea if Finereader runs under > > > > > emulator though. If the file is already a PDF and 72 DPI with text > > as > > > > > graphics most of the damage has already been done, and it will be > > > > > extremely hard to OCR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the resolution? > > > > i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif files, but > > > > then that's really absurd since there can only be just so much > > > > data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and smoothing image > > to > > > > refine, but too much hassle. > > > > > > > > (i used gocr -m 130 and "saw" the glyphs it (presumably) saw. > > > > seemed pretty much okay to my eyes. but then i'm not a computer > > > > program. [MAYBE :)] > > > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Reko > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > > > Unix > > > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > > The 2.23a release of Jottings: > > http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > > > > > > > > > At one point in time, the Abby folks were offering a back-end that ran on > > > FreeBSD. I tried to get the free download; but it never happened. (They > > > misplaced my signed, faxed license agreement and I finally got tired of > > the > > > back-and-forth prerequisite communication.) > > > > > > Abby also no longer supports Mac OS X. I use an old version and like it > > a > > > lot. > > > > > > > > > OK, now i know what to expect. I found theit site and signed up > > to get the linux version; trial. not likrly to go any > > further.... > > > > gary > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > Unix > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > > > > I'm rooting for you! :-) well, i just got an email from a david hazard who said to look on their website; i replied that i had and couldn't find their test suite.... if/when this guy replies, i'll share. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 02:28:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBD71065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CB78FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C175C2EDE3 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:29:40 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4d7dd86f0901281722l64eb2339k639263811d39a526@mail.gmail.com> References: <1233015690.41990.28.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4d7dd86f0901281722l64eb2339k639263811d39a526@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:27:55 +1000 Message-Id: <1233196075.1216.14.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: net/samba-libsmbclient fails build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:28:19 -0000 On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 12:22 +1100, David N wrote: > 2009/1/27 Da Rock : > > I get the following error in this build (make, make install clean): > > > > In file included from libsmb/libsmbclient.c:25: > > include/includes.h:1112: error: conflicting types for > > 'krb5_set_real_time' > > /usr/local/include/krb5-protos.h:3486: error: previous declaration of > > 'krb5_set_real_time' was here > > > > I was considering debugging this myself and submitting it to you guys > > here, but then I looked closer... my question is now where do I submit > > this kind of info? If not here then let me know where. > > > > Cheers > > > > FreeBSD laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au 7.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD > > 7.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Jan 15 16:27:55 EST 2009 > > xxxxxxxxxx@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > try rebuilding it with > KRB5_HOME=/usr/local > > i think you need to do a make clean first and then do > make install KRB5_HOME=/usr/local NG. This is failing during portupgrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 03:01:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F2A106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150308FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=t6Yng4N56cJI2t7lfr4UMZCpfvMn4SNtPABF9VqFMvC8ylr0/kRfCUHWPpS7xmRr; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [66.214.89.52] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LSMui-0004Aa-9J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:45:56 -0500 Message-Id: <73B48621-7F1F-443F-B811-0135B6FE64E3@earthlink.net> From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:45:54 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 0bd0885458bbffc5a6d650fed495db8b4d2b10475b5711202d97d77b4a24400acae1da9d6c641f4e6858f2b0c42b7677350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.214.89.52 Subject: Problems with Xorg update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:01:12 -0000 Two days ago I checked to see what source code was out of date and I noticed that many xf86 and various xorg drivers were. Because the number was significant I used the "portupgrade -a" command to make sure all the dependencies were processed properly. As it turned out, there were still a couple of places were the process broke and I needed to do a "deinstall" and "reinstall" on a certain package(s) before I could continue. When the process was done I tried to run "startx", but I got an error. I ran just X without startx or xinit and I get the message: Fatal server error: Caught signal 11: Server aborting Abort trap: 6 I've tried to reinstall xorg, xorg-drivers, and a handful of other drivers, but no luck. I'm using FreeBSD 6.4, and the upgrade was for xorg-7.4. Any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 03:13:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACCE1065785 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B679D8FC27 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7396018rvf.43 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:13:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NN8bSJEdAsa9zJcG1zIOV2aes1jXLzxiBFD0iPZcgpA=; b=UeOfdQ3NR49kUZHSgCiAMsahIVDY/WTHXZDqwoZx7GWeI0PPvLa8URckIJoE9L7CVg 2+Dbye25d0VVIKQt0IHx7R4XYDitJr00SgmKWNXBOW5I1tPsU796PRS1OiqPHjsw1rJU 7eSdskKJ9E3LQgQtCKPeU/4PzMvARIRWNu8zc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=p0X0vCp8bw4M3RX2vXCCUm4FNqeHtSDE8jHACDox+X5XSvRqD1J3T3GHAdhSdgb/Al UARqtDPBwX03r7eVS2ztHjQe4fpSMP2HaTluM7z7SllHWXSFuK6V7kKvPdzHa81NHL8Y Y0Im3BS4ijuJIObGvYjRfP04POzXkBQTO2hB8= Received: by 10.142.207.8 with SMTP id e8mr142089wfg.78.1233198814127; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm2227998wfg.48.2009.01.28.19.13.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:13:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49811ED8.4060004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:13:28 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arthur Barlow References: <73B48621-7F1F-443F-B811-0135B6FE64E3@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <73B48621-7F1F-443F-B811-0135B6FE64E3@earthlink.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:13:35 -0000 Arthur Barlow wrote: > Two days ago I checked to see what source code was out of date and I > noticed that many xf86 and various xorg drivers were. Because the > number was significant I used the "portupgrade -a" command to make sure > all the dependencies were processed properly. As it turned out, there > were still a couple of places were the process broke and I needed to do > a "deinstall" and "reinstall" on a certain package(s) before I could > continue. When the process was done I tried to run "startx", but I got > an error. I ran just X without startx or xinit and I get the message: > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11: Server aborting > > Abort trap: 6 > > I've tried to reinstall xorg, xorg-drivers, and a handful of other > drivers, but no luck. I'm using FreeBSD 6.4, and the upgrade was for > xorg-7.4. Any suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What video driver are you using? Could you give us output of any logs and config files? -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 04:29:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F07106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:29:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9918FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: (qmail 31081 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jan 2009 04:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.187?) (75.76.211.79) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 04:29:22 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <20090128202349.GD63837@dan.emsphone.com> <20090128225115.G25826@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7D6C5FFD-DA4F-431E-9DAF-1918F2F71EB7@hiwaay.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:29:52 -0600 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: Quantum tape drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:29:24 -0000 On Jan 28, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Warren Block wrote: > There's also the issue of terminator power, which may have been > supplied by the old drive but not by the new one. Yes, usually a jumper is available. Also used to be one-shot fuses before the Raychem self-reseting PTC Polyswitch fuses. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 05:27:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD4E106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A558B8FC17 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3926C5C2F32E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:28:44 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <73B48621-7F1F-443F-B811-0135B6FE64E3@earthlink.net> References: <73B48621-7F1F-443F-B811-0135B6FE64E3@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:26:59 +1000 Message-Id: <1233206819.1216.16.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:27:23 -0000 On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 18:45 -0800, Arthur Barlow wrote: > Two days ago I checked to see what source code was out of date and I > noticed that many xf86 and various xorg drivers were. Because the > number was significant I used the "portupgrade -a" command to make > sure all the dependencies were processed properly. As it turned out, > there were still a couple of places were the process broke and I > needed to do a "deinstall" and "reinstall" on a certain package(s) > before I could continue. When the process was done I tried to run > "startx", but I got an error. I ran just X without startx or xinit > and I get the message: > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11: Server aborting > > Abort trap: 6 > > I've tried to reinstall xorg, xorg-drivers, and a handful of other > drivers, but no luck. I'm using FreeBSD 6.4, and the upgrade was for > xorg-7.4. Any suggestions? Did you read UPDATING? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 05:57:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CF9106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CD98FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9DW51b01d0x6nqcA1HxncC; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:57:47 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Hxl1b00A0Yq9Sc8YHxmuw; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:57:47 +0000 Message-ID: <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:57:51 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:57:46 -0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 > Tim Judd wrote: > > > >> Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, >> it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. >> > > It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system > update problems are using freebsd-update. > _______________________________________________ > > This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update your CVS and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a handbook that has exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason I'm having trouble finding it even though I used to have it saved but I don't anymore and I wanted to get CVS sources updated so I can do some updating. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 06:02:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B084F106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FFB8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F2B5C2F7BC for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:50 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1233196075.1216.14.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <1233015690.41990.28.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4d7dd86f0901281722l64eb2339k639263811d39a526@mail.gmail.com> <1233196075.1216.14.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:02:06 +1000 Message-Id: <1233208926.1216.26.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: net/samba-libsmbclient fails build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:02:30 -0000 On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 12:27 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 12:22 +1100, David N wrote: > > 2009/1/27 Da Rock : > > > I get the following error in this build (make, make install clean): > > > > > > In file included from libsmb/libsmbclient.c:25: > > > include/includes.h:1112: error: conflicting types for > > > 'krb5_set_real_time' > > > /usr/local/include/krb5-protos.h:3486: error: previous declaration of > > > 'krb5_set_real_time' was here > > > > > > I was considering debugging this myself and submitting it to you guys > > > here, but then I looked closer... my question is now where do I submit > > > this kind of info? If not here then let me know where. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > FreeBSD laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au 7.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD > > > 7.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Jan 15 16:27:55 EST 2009 > > > xxxxxxxxxx@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > try rebuilding it with > > KRB5_HOME=/usr/local > > > > i think you need to do a make clean first and then do > > make install KRB5_HOME=/usr/local > > NG. This is failing during portupgrade. Ok. I switched lists by mistake, but the maintainer doesn't seem to be watching the ports list and he seems to be the only one there who knows what could be going on, sp it could be a good thing. Can someone tell me which has precedence in this scenario: I just had a look at debugging this problem, and in krb5-protos.h it defines a structure as follows: krb5_set_real_time ( krb5_context /*context*/, krb5_timestamp /*sec*/, int32_t /*usec*/); but in both includes.h and includes.h.orig it has: krb5_error_code krb5_set_real_time(krb5_context context, int32_t seconds, int32_t microseconds); So which should change? My bet is on samba-libsmbclient, but if I change this how will it affect the rest of the system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 06:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434AD106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1125F8FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7470990rvf.43 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:34:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QFUTnRxO+SRpFPC8WY2UPveMnYNFwi3XceOPYKjfF6A=; b=TEyEZc857pKI5J7wULxUA13CIi71KO3mrUf/AM24kzqFu4g4vbwfdHXVB+3sPQ00hN JCvJeYaSK+t3FNNbiqdJlVuuX16xGDJ4HxAS6e7xlVDRJkogS83bIUc6gZ69gCUbzpAJ L49kV9yc2I19bBJGvcrfx8V2jMB0JgrSfLYS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kysxYnV4BYG/aQXbcKL0ue0Dn0Y+uuQvq5acsirvMnbCPQFX/WTppHd1Nlf2Jue212 IWROlJY4UzYdirjtjTUqIknnP1NP+HJYZzsOcCyqZl3DiSdgQcdP1PrI1havenGdkS2u rsO02q1vf9KFLpmDOMrwFNxO0CYvVe2UrcAVs= Received: by 10.114.154.1 with SMTP id b1mr2540951wae.77.1233210855640; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.4.70? (c-68-35-57-46.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.57.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a8sm23291697poa.5.2009.01.28.22.34.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:34:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:34:43 -0700 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Akenner References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:34:16 -0000 Akenner wrote: > RW wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 >> Tim Judd wrote: >> >> >> >>> Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, >>> it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. >>> >> >> It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system >> update problems are using freebsd-update. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can > someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update your > CVS and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a handbook that > has exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason I'm having trouble > finding it even though I used to have it saved but I don't anymore and I > wanted to get CVS sources updated so I can do some updating. > > Thanks > csup -g -L 1 -h cvs#.cc.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile i.e: cvs17.us.freebsd.org This will update to your uname -r latest patchlevel. Copy and replace (for you): RELENG_7_0 with RELENG_7_1 to get the latest patchlevel for 7.1 Original doc seems either replaced by the freebsd-update method (while excellent, there are a few things that CVS really triumphs on). csup is part of base. I'd be glad to help you through. The canonical update method is still listed in the handbook (SS. 24.7.1) used after retrieving the sources. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 06:36:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41016106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36898FC1D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LSQGr-0004PX-Ql; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:21:01 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n0T6Kxvv028323; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:21:00 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 86FCAFCA6A0; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:20:54 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Message-ID: <20090129062054.GA19589@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <497E31EE.9010202@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <0B02CEE8-D38A-4D94-B76D-49721BDDACF0@mac.com> <497E41B8.2030203@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <497E41B8.2030203@lvor.halvorsen.cc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:21:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printf and utf-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:36:47 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:05:28AM +0100, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > Chuck Swiger wrote: > >On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > >>As far as I can see, printf is not calculating strings lengths > >>correctly when using utf-8 encoding. Either that, or I'm using byte > >>count, and can't find the character count :-/ > > > >printf(1) explicitly states that it works with ASCII and ANSI > >X3.159-1989 (``ANSI C89'') character escapes, and it also notes: > > > > Multibyte characters are not recognized in format strings (this is > >only a > > problem if `%' can appear inside a multibyte character). > > > >Some platforms have a printf_l(3) which is locale/xlocale-aware, but > >there doesn't seem to be a corresponding CLI utility which understands > >Unicode/UTF8/widechars. > > Thanks for your explanation. > > Do you have a suggestion to solve the following problem without using > printf(1): > > I have a text file that I want to print in a "box" on a terminal from a > shell script. Now I've padded the lines with spaces to a certain length > using printf %-70s and appended the box drawing character. Is there > another simple way that will work with utf-8? > What's your perl like? http://search.cpan.org/~sadahiro/String-Multibyte-1.05/Multibyte.pm http://perldoc.perl.org/perlfaq6.html#How-can-I-match-strings-with-multibyte-characters%3f Looks like they might be interesting. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 06:47:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A241065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A1F8FC1E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1073536fga.35 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:47:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ai5T0wqrt6z8yzodEwm1PiU5W9QseyxmbX2hyyReGS8=; b=DS3FygxAPoRbjmcXO3nKkm4vbQd/TdFcgUGeFiaOuoFPwuuzyqoV5csAm1i4eXiT8+ fgtNp2yWRlJd+kH+HrbYZGz9m2McK5JnCN/CrxuVZxSFFD+NiMJvRDI1+StbR3Vp7dVb 465ba5lxKjB/+3hbhzZu1Hmr1ou4IVfMiIFDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fYLeFqaTA6LX9QtLlSUkPIgyhuQfdRXCgva5tHvpMWsUMgp23tEhq2UmpXCENOooEV f0qCEvOmCq2B9FgObLQnRd/0l0+0QOe0LEPjECvb8hVRhjjIR7Ik0m77V4UAf/sXFfSo hC0z701tYbXchaTQ0nBq+cJZ6fbjPdxjY+024= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.109.199 with SMTP id k7mr2586422fap.45.1233211671062; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:47:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:47:51 +0100 Message-ID: <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:47:52 -0000 Hi all, On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 07:34, Tim Judd wrote: > Akenner wrote: >> >> RW wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 >>> Tim Judd wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, >>>> it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. >>>> >>> >>> It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system >>> update problems are using freebsd-update. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >> >> This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can >> someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update your CVS >> and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a handbook that has >> exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason I'm having trouble finding >> it even though I used to have it saved but I don't anymore and I wanted to >> get CVS sources updated so I can do some updating. >> >> Thanks >> > > csup -g -L 1 -h cvs#.cc.freebsd.org > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile > > i.e: cvs17.us.freebsd.org > > This will update to your uname -r latest patchlevel. Copy and replace (for > you): RELENG_7_0 with RELENG_7_1 to get the latest patchlevel for 7.1 > > > Original doc seems either replaced by the freebsd-update method (while > excellent, there are a few things that CVS really triumphs on). > > csup is part of base. > > I'd be glad to help you through. The canonical update method is still > listed in the handbook (SS. 24.7.1) used after retrieving the sources. Thank you Tim for the answers! So far I have used freebsd-update to apply updates. I seem to recall that it is never good to mix the two systems (freebsd-updates and csup) to avoid trouble. Is that true? Also, the documentation you mention (24.7.1) says this: After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). How can this be done with a remote machine? -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 07:57:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358DE106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EFA8FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0T7vbi2029896; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:57:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0T7vYZC029893; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:57:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:57:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jaime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090129085731.D29892@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200901272230.n0RMUsk7035006@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20090128225015.GA22170@gsp.org> <20090129005050.J26376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Martin McCormick , Rich Kulawiec , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Good FreeBSD and General Unix Backup System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:57:53 -0000 restore -i On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Jaime wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >> dump is perfect. period. > > Is it possible to pull out individual files? A fellow sysadmin asked > me that years ago and I didn't have an answer for him. > > Thanks, > Jaime > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 08:32:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2480D1065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@nicoelro.net) Received: from mail.nicoelro.net (helm.nicoelro.net [87.98.216.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88F28FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@nicoelro.net) Received: by mail.nicoelro.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id 99473792D4; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:32:24 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on helm.nicoelro.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from orthanc (mne69-8-82-247-37-160.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.37.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nicolas@nicoelro.net) by mail.nicoelro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3408D78F08; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:32:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:32:23 +0100 From: Nicolas Letellier To: Mel Message-Id: <20090129093223.47c35a54.nicolas@nicoelro.net> In-Reply-To: <200901281519.44870.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <20090128174753.8d2b15b5.nicolas@nicoelro.net> <200901280927.04636.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090128233259.c864fb41.nicolas@nicoelro.net> <200901281519.44870.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot build dovecot with bdb support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:32:26 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:19:44 -0900 Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 13:32:59 Nicolas Letellier wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:27:04 -0900 > > > > Mel wrote: > > > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 07:47:53 Nicolas Letellier wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > I use FreeBSD-6.3. I want to install dovecot port with dbd support. > > > > However, that's impossible. See my error: > > > > > > > > hecking for pam/pam_appl.h... no > > > > checking for pam_setcred in -lpam... yes > > > > checking for auth_userokay... no > > > > checking db_env_create in -ldb... no > > > > configure: error: Can't build with db support: libdb not found > > > > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > > > Please report the problem to yds@CoolRat.org [maintainer] and attach > > > > the "/usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-1.1.8/config.log" including > > > > the > > > > > > The answer is in there. Works for me with db46. Could you show the part > > > of config.log where it says it fails? > > > Search for "checking db_env_create in -ldb" and anything below that will > > > be helpful. > > > > I built db46 port, but I was the same error whel building dovecot... > > The log says: > > > > configure:27631: checking db_env_create in -ldb > > configure:27660: cc -o conftest -std=gnu99 -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 > > -I/usr/local/include/db41 -L/usr/local/lib -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -W > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wpointer-arith > > -Wchar-subscripts -Wformat=2 -Wbad-function-cast -I/usr/local/include > > -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -ldb >&5 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb > > > -L/usr/local/lib/db41 is missing above. Not entirely sure why that is. I removed db41 package (and dependances) I installed db46. Now, it works. db41 does not install some files in /usr/local/lib (like libdb). Thanks for your advices. Regards. -- -Nicolas. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 09:37:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A209A1065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.100.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130368FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) X-Trace: 135507607/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-TRUSTED/b2c-IMPLICITLY_TRUSTED/212.74.112.53/None/krad@snaffler.net X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 212.74.112.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: krad@snaffler.net X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoBABMHgUnUSnA1/2dsb2JhbAAIyn6EDgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,343,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="135507607" Received: from e1-1.ns500-1.ts.milt.as9105.net (HELO [10.44.24.27]) ([212.74.112.53]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Jan 2009 09:37:34 +0000 Message-ID: <498178CD.8040405@snaffler.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:37:17 +0000 From: "krad@snaffler.net" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Akenner References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:37:37 -0000 here is howto rebuild you system via cvs dump this into a file --------------->8 *default host=cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all --------------->8 add these lines to /etc/make.conf SUP_UPDATE= yes SUPFILE= then cd /usr/src make update && make buildworls && make buildkernel && make installkernel ( if you are multicore do a -j 8 or something on the build lines, anything upto 32 should build ok ) reboot cd /usr/src mergmaster -p make installworld mergmaster reboot i theory tou should rebuild all your ports now as well, but generally i never both and havent had trouble if you dont have anything in /usr/src or dont have one just install the base src distribution from sysinstall or download install.sh, sbase.aa, sbase.inf from you favorite freebsd mirror and do a ./install.sh base eg mine is here http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.1-RELEASE/src/ Akenner wrote: > RW wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 >> Tim Judd wrote: >> >> >> >>> Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, >>> it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. >>> >> >> It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system >> update problems are using freebsd-update. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can > someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update > your CVS and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a > handbook that has exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason > I'm having trouble finding it even though I used to have it saved but > I don't anymore and I wanted to get CVS sources updated so I can do > some updating. > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 09:40:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2001065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.100.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7584F8FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) X-Trace: 135113718/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-TRUSTED/b2c-IMPLICITLY_TRUSTED/212.74.112.53/None/krad@snaffler.net X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 212.74.112.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: krad@snaffler.net X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoBAAMIgUnUSnA1/2dsb2JhbAAIywuEDgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,343,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="135113718" Received: from e1-1.ns500-1.ts.milt.as9105.net (HELO [10.44.24.27]) ([212.74.112.53]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Jan 2009 09:40:20 +0000 Message-ID: <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:04 +0000 From: "krad@snaffler.net" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:25 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hi all, > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 07:34, Tim Judd wrote: > >> Akenner wrote: >> >>> RW wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 >>>> Tim Judd wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, >>>>> it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system >>>> update problems are using freebsd-update. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can >>> someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update your CVS >>> and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a handbook that has >>> exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason I'm having trouble finding >>> it even though I used to have it saved but I don't anymore and I wanted to >>> get CVS sources updated so I can do some updating. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >> csup -g -L 1 -h cvs#.cc.freebsd.org >> /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile >> >> i.e: cvs17.us.freebsd.org >> >> This will update to your uname -r latest patchlevel. Copy and replace (for >> you): RELENG_7_0 with RELENG_7_1 to get the latest patchlevel for 7.1 >> >> >> Original doc seems either replaced by the freebsd-update method (while >> excellent, there are a few things that CVS really triumphs on). >> >> csup is part of base. >> >> I'd be glad to help you through. The canonical update method is still >> listed in the handbook (SS. 24.7.1) used after retrieving the sources. >> > > Thank you Tim for the answers! So far I have used freebsd-update to > apply updates. I seem to recall that it is never good to mix the two > systems (freebsd-updates and csup) to avoid trouble. Is that true? > > Also, the documentation you mention (24.7.1) says this: > > After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single > user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). > > How can this be done with a remote machine? > > NO without serial access or some kind of ALOM card eg DELL DRAC CARD, as you will have no ip up From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 09:52:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835E11065673 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365B78FC17 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LSTZ4-0000DF-K6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:52:02 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:52:02 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:52:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:51:39 +0100 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <13724607.1233167991636.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig631FA728D5E42B7D3DB36519" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) In-Reply-To: <13724607.1233167991636.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: exFAT File System Format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:52:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig631FA728D5E42B7D3DB36519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mario Lobo wrote: > Hi guys; > News: > http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!5216.entry= ?w > a=3Dwsignin1.0&sa=3D911422520 > Any chance of this being supported on FBSD so we can dump ntfs for > good? 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Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB04C8FC32 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1162996fga.35 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:19:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JDtLsEIPqDg83AqCVvC5CNToroBCHMwLUPuw0Ly1Utk=; b=TNzDZns1dVoHNBt3IoXIjOPzTStrUMc88EFrcG03YztJiDKvu70nYnZDe9i5zodz6b czDrQlnbtQc/uAUj1YZVp2s6kD3jW7Qho6FjLT98zxKOjEalqn9YZTUas4VYx8YiNRFl QlUotu4QzXuRujYhBu0YFD4S8uKrkTUcOotMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MbssEHpMks67XgpbrrGwuEoRONqtv++ug/ogQ9glIqiWfMqB258a5IGy36fEcRp/X/ wz1T/8h8iuxy02LFqBuHjukI80/Xr8eWmOUbxhOwEV48mwA5MNa06z8ZY0yO6Tpa/QYM fRRZcV7EfsuxcIoM4QeVY/y+TZSK8JrGyo404= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.15 with SMTP id d15mr3705412fap.62.1233224395725; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:19:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:19:55 +0100 Message-ID: <94136a2c0901290219x1e9cf1c1x181be22c99006c60@mail.gmail.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:19:57 -0000 Hello, On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:40, krad@snaffler.net wrote: >> After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single >> user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). >> >> How can this be done with a remote machine? >> >> > > NO without serial access or some kind of ALOM card eg DELL DRAC CARD, as you > will have no ip up > Then correct me if I am wrong but if I do not have such a card, then I am better off using freebsd-update since it does not require me to boot in single user mode? Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 10:27:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CE4106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-119.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-119.bluehost.com [69.89.22.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3C658FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 18248 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jan 2009 10:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 10:27:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=G6D673fT8k/gTOqQ7QC3obMjZvXWnVvv9PHdi4YxqOoGZ3KfneTwqwThhk20PjBW+VRXNMBwR3JelnXVg2bMRD3kAbzjObJfSPfzGJfvTPer4XdD2ratw1jXr6DpS+ED; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSU7c-000756-6s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:27:44 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:26:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:26:07 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090129102607.GB18583@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:42 -0000 --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 06:15:09PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 > > for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as=20 > > name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you > > use. >=20 > IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a > keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. I'm not sure how you mean that. I use AHWM on my FreeBSD laptop. It doesn't have desktop icons or menus or a taskbar or dock or whatever. It's lightweight, very responsive, and stays the heck out of my way. I use a mouse. I use it for copy/paste (middle click is my friend), I use it with my GUI applications, and I use it for controlling window size and position a lot of the time. I don't see how anything about using a lightweight window manager that doesn't clutter up my workspace with a bunch of unnecessary cruft makes it more difficult to use the mouse when it's appropriate and helpful to do so. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "Just don't create a file called -rf." --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmBhD8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX0YACeOGvTw6DFG+OL/FgkN2vrCD0Z +csAoOSgNmoSeYMDJBSI0wMGLFH81/Gj =qNxp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 11:45:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E7A1065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F7708FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 78260 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2009 14:45:14 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 14:45:14 +0300 Message-ID: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:44:56 +0300 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 6.8 became very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:45:19 -0000 I have a very strange situation here. There was a hosting box with 5 jails. Everything is 6.4 It was running twe driver with RAID 5. Then i had a crash and had to reinstall the system. So, i have installed FREEBSD 6.8, cvsed the latest, rebuilt everything and then just copied jails from the prev installation. So, the host system is 6.8 and the jails are 6.4. Also, raid is MIRROR now, not RAID5. The problem is that now everything became really slow. When i do top i see: load averages: 16.45, 14.86, 13.86 737 processes: 20 running, 703 sleeping, 14 zombie CPU: 15.9% user, 0.0% nice, 81.9% system, 2.2% interrupt, 0.0% idle Everything pretty much as it was. But 82% system CPU is really weird. I don;t remember exactly, but i think it was not like this before. AFAIK it meas 82% of CPU time is spent in the kernel. I look at the io stats: gstat: dT: 1.005s w: 1.000s L(q) ops/s r/s kBps ms/r w/s kBps ms/w %busy Name 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| acd0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad2 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad2s1 0 9 8 16 3.9 1 8 0.6 3.1| twed0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad2s1c 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad2s1d 0 9 8 16 3.9 1 8 0.6 3.2| twed0s1 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1s1 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed0s1a 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed0s1b 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed0s1c 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed0s1d 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed0s1e 0 8 8 16 3.9 0 0 0.0 3.1| twed0s1f 0 1 0 0 0.0 1 8 0.8 0.1| twed0s1g 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1s1a 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1s1b 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1s1c 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1s1d 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1s1e 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| twed1s1f This seems to be okay. Any idea what might happened? -- Regasrd Artem Kuchin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 12:19:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50C1106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500528FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Q371b0080mv7h058QKPp6; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:19:23 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9QKN1b00S0Yq9Sc3XQKP3j; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:19:23 +0000 Message-ID: <49819ED0.5030003@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:19:28 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> In-Reply-To: <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:19:23 -0000 *Snip to keep simple to read* Thanks all for the replies. I wanted to send a formal thank you instead of replying to each of the people who responded to me so I wouldn't be spamming the list, as I think that would be a much more polite way of doing it than sending a bunch of messages in filling everyone's inbox up :) The last time I used the CVSup method was I think 6.0 and at the time I had read through the docs on the FreeBSD page and made sure to have them not only ready, but I opened it up on another machine so I could check what I was doing off as I went along, and kept a book handy that was published around 5.0 but for some reason or another, probably do to my newbieness to BSD, it not only didn't work, I couldn't seem to boot anymore, which, as I said, I'm almost certain was do to my ignorance. Anyway, thanks again everyone, and now instead of risking it, I have set up FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on another machine I can use for testing as I feel this will help me learn more without worrying about messing up as I can always reinstall on that one. I've started using FreeBSD more in the last month or so and I've actually started to get the hang of it. I've always like it, which is why I show my appreciation financially whenever possible. I also like buying books, CD-ROM sets, Tee Shirts, stickers, pins, and whatever else from the FreeBSDMall and book stores which helps show people that they sell good and that more should get written or at least updated versions. For some reason if you follow along line by line in the book "FreeBSD Unleashed Second edition" which was written and came with 5.0 on CD, it doesn't work at all for some reason. I think there must have been a few changes in the way things are done between these versions but I couldn't get those instructions to work at all. I'm sure it works great on 5.0 but I kind of fell for 7.1 like a school kid lol. Anyway thanks again, sorry for the length of this message, and I'm glad I've susbscribed to this list again as I've gotten answers to many of my questions I couldn't quite find an answer for by googling it. -Allen. Promoting FreeBSD since 4.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 12:22:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7BA1065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp1.brturbo.com.br (smtp1.brte.com.br [200.199.201.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D285E8FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from mailapp02.brturbo.com (unknown [10.160.120.197]) by smtp1.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id D330C340A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:13:05 -0200 (BRST) Received: from mailapp02.brturbo.com (mailapp01.brturbo.com [10.160.120.197]) by mailapp02.brturbo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7F15F4078; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:17:40 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <20452872.1233231460768.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp02.brturbo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:17:40 -0300 (ART) From: Mario Lobo To: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1146_27210912.1233231460765" SDL_HA: true X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: exFAT File System Format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:22:23 -0000 ------=_Part_1146_27210912.1233231460765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" De: Ivan Voras Enviada em: 29/01/2009 07:51:39 Para: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Assunto: Re: exFAT File System Format Mario Lobo wrote: >> Hi guys; >> News: >> http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!5216.entry?w >> a=wsignin1.0&sa=911422520 >> Any chance of this being supported on FBSD so we can dump ntfs for >> good? >Feel free to fund a developer to implement it :) >(i.e. no) Ok. Thanks Mario ------=_Part_1146_27210912.1233231460765 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=signature.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJgXwyldnAQVacBcgRAqIoAJ9GBmIHXP51e6E9LGWb8ey/xLV+ygCfSkMD wjYHefdG7VVxQ5E2LvjmI10= =w2hI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_Part_1146_27210912.1233231460765-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 12:36:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDE81065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CC78FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A9DCEBC0A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:36:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:36:47 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Nerius Landys Message-Id: <20090129073647.c34e36dc.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640901281511m55e3adc8l75d2b28b381920c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> <20090128175705.3677bafb.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <560f92640901281511m55e3adc8l75d2b28b381920c8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security holes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:36:49 -0000 Nerius Landys wrote: > > > Ascertaining what security holes will affect your system is complicated. > > If you have to ask this question, then I recommend that you apply all > > security updates immediately and always assume that every vulnerability > > is a potential problem for you. > > Because 7.0 updates will no longer be made about a month from now, I > guess this means that I should upgrade to 7.1? That would be my opinion. The good news is that you have a month to plan and schedule the upgrade, and the change from 7.0 to 7.1 is pretty minor. I upgraded 3 systems with no manual intervention aside from mergemaster. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 12:38:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F1A1065697 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FA48FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9QSB1b0030mlR8UA3QeHeM; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:38:17 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9QeD1b0030Yq9Sc8XQeDaN; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:38:14 +0000 Message-ID: <4981A33A.8060302@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:18 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070007090108090602060003" Cc: Subject: [Fwd: Re: KDE: What a monster!] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:38:17 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070007090108090602060003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some things used I haven't even heard of before. What is AHWM? I personally use a myriad of Window Managers and Desktops on my machines. this is m set up: Main Desktop #1: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ / 512 MBs RAM / Crappy onboard video and sound cards / 120 GB HD / Dual Boots Open SUSE 11 and Windows XP home edition. I keep Windows around mostly for just in case, like for example school work requiring crap Office. Open SUSE is used mainly. I use it mainly as my active music making desktop to make my music with LMMS, and also sometimes for web browsing / Email. ------------------------------ Main Desktop #2: Intel Celeron 2.40 GHz / 512 MBs RAM / Crappy on board sound and video / 80 GB HD with Windows XP for just in case / 160 GB HD for FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE which is what I normally have booted. Such as now. Mainly used as a machine to learn UNIX, browse the web, and I've allowed it to become the main email center. All my accounts are almost finished being sent over to it so I can use FreeBSD as my main OS for email as well. Just haven't decided on a 3rd email client other than Mutt :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Laptop : Intel Pentium 4 M Processor @ 3.06 GHz / 512 RAM / 32 MB Nvidia card / Onboard sound / 30 GB HD / Partition #1 = Windows XP Home so I can play Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, UT...You get the idea... Partition #2 = Mandriva Linux 2008. Main uses include web browsing, music making with LMMS, and other things. -------------------------------- Old main Desktop / Now my FTP server / Was the first computer I ever bought: Pentium 3 Processor @ 733 MHz / 384 MBs RAM / Sound Blaster Live! Sound Card / Nvidia Riva Video card @16 MBs Video Memory / First HD = 43 GBs (Yes, I said 43.... I know it's weird, but on Windows 98 when I used to have that installed it said 42.9) ... Anyway, the first drive is my /root partition with Slackware Linux 12.0 running a 2.6 Kernel. Second HD - 160 GBs - Formatted and mounted as /storage for extra storage as it is my FTP server. I basically use it as a way of backing up everyone on all my machines and then do another back up to CD-Rs and a USB HD that is 80 GBs, and a ZIP drive. works great. Video card in the machine barely works, so I don't have X on there as it would be useless. You can barely display graphics and it looks liek crap, so I just don't start up X. Beside, it's a server now, so it doesn't need a GUI. ---------------------------------------------------------- Test Machine : Celeron Processor @ 433 MHz / 192 MBs RAM / 80 GB HD / ATI video card with 8 MB video memory / Forgot sound card.... 3 GB Partition = Windows 98 SE for Magic The Gathering Game tat requires Windows 95 or 98 and won't run no NT / 2000 / XP line (The second version of this game was released because they realised it didn't work on the NT line). Partition #2 - Takes up rest of disk space...About 77 GBs. Has FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on it and is almost an exact copy of the installation on this machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I use that last machine for a lot: I've set up an FTP server so I could test how well FreeBSD does as an FTP server. I also have a lot of toys to test on it with BSD as well. I listed the hardware and function because I think it's important to show what I'm running and what I use it for before saying what GUI stuff I use. On my laptop I use a mix of Enlightenment, Window Maker, and KDE and Gnome. Both of my main desktops run either KDE, Gnome, FVWM2, Enlightenment, or Window Maker. My test machine runs window Maker almost all the time, but sometimes I use FVWM2 or even Gnome or Enlightenment. XFCE has seen use as well. KDE does seem to lag more than the others, and I don't expect it to be snappy as I don't with Gnome either. For speed it's hard to beat FVWM2 or TWM, but for USEABLE speed, I like Window Maker. Enlightenment isn't exactly slow either. With Slackware 10.2 and E17 installed on that super slow 433 MHx box I was once able to turn on the special effects E17 has like snow and fire and ice, and it actually didn't lag much at all. I was shocked. Window Maker has been what I've been using a lot lately though with Gnome on the side when I want to use it. --------------070007090108090602060003 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: KDE: What a monster!.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: KDE: What a monster!.eml" X-Account-Key: account2 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (LHLO IMTA19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.15) by sz0066.ev.mail.comcast.net with LMTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([69.147.83.53]) by IMTA19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9NUb1b01N191zLd0KNUcw4; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:28:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5tcO1I8LxzcsyfcYjaK55w==:17 a=70qzlKQjAAAA:8 a=H7uAvrf1kw2MLRx0cUUA:9 a=Vw2Qonm3REPgicwhroAA:7 a=D-IIBDgaMDq_pVqwXctODM7OPJEA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=j_gDLt4ON2_J8f8PDvgA:9 a=2hZYz0oG4QlGeEu7chHkMzZPChIA:4 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00D9152615; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEFB10656C7; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CE4106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-119.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-119.bluehost.com [69.89.22.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3C658FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 18248 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jan 2009 10:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 10:27:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=G6D673fT8k/gTOqQ7QC3obMjZvXWnVvv9PHdi4YxqOoGZ3KfneTwqwThhk20PjBW+VRXNMBwR3JelnXVg2bMRD3kAbzjObJfSPfzGJfvTPer4XdD2ratw1jXr6DpS+ED; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSU7c-000756-6s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:27:44 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:26:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:26:07 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090129102607.GB18583@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> <20090127174717.S18021@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090127181509.66221353@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 06:15:09PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 > > for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as=20 > > name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you > > use. >=20 > IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a > keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. I'm not sure how you mean that. I use AHWM on my FreeBSD laptop. It doesn't have desktop icons or menus or a taskbar or dock or whatever. It's lightweight, very responsive, and stays the heck out of my way. I use a mouse. I use it for copy/paste (middle click is my friend), I use it with my GUI applications, and I use it for controlling window size and position a lot of the time. I don't see how anything about using a lightweight window manager that doesn't clutter up my workspace with a bunch of unnecessary cruft makes it more difficult to use the mouse when it's appropriate and helpful to do so. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "Just don't create a file called -rf." --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmBhD8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX0YACeOGvTw6DFG+OL/FgkN2vrCD0Z +csAoOSgNmoSeYMDJBSI0wMGLFH81/Gj =qNxp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V-- --------------070007090108090602060003-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 12:39:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C44A1065732 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868728FC32 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (unknown [192.168.1.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2D4E983E; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:11 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <4981A36E.3000204@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:10 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "krad@snaffler.net" References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> <498178CD.8040405@snaffler.net> In-Reply-To: <498178CD.8040405@snaffler.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Akenner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:39:13 -0000 krad@snaffler.net wrote: > here is howto rebuild you system via cvs > > dump this into a file > > --------------->8 > > *default host=cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > src-all > > --------------->8 > > add these lines to /etc/make.conf > > SUP_UPDATE= yes > SUPFILE= > > then > > cd /usr/src > make update && make buildworls && make buildkernel && make installkernel > > ( if you are multicore do a -j 8 or something on the build lines, > anything upto 32 should build ok ) > > reboot > > cd /usr/src > mergmaster -p > make installworld > mergmaster > > reboot > > i theory tou should rebuild all your ports now as well, but generally i > never both and havent had trouble > > if you dont have anything in /usr/src or dont have one just install the > base src distribution from sysinstall > > or > > download install.sh, sbase.aa, sbase.inf from you favorite freebsd > mirror and do a > > ./install.sh base > > eg mine is here > > http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.1-RELEASE/src/ > > > > > Akenner wrote: >> RW wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 >>> Tim Judd wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, >>>> it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. >>>> >>> >>> It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system >>> update problems are using freebsd-update. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >> This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can >> someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update >> your CVS and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a >> handbook that has exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason >> I'm having trouble finding it even though I used to have it saved but >> I don't anymore and I wanted to get CVS sources updated so I can do >> some updating. >> >> Thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Not sure if the OP wants to track the errata ou the stable branch so little heads up: tag=RELENG_7_1 to follow the errata branch tag=RELENG_7 to follow stable Regards, Ricardo Jesus. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 12:43:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21124106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF668FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so5406044ewy.19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:43:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Zn1gxrjfoXylKeY4wMKJ2oMZ+9BYytE9iRYMBErOBY=; b=nKx8LwMMxEqP9JO1HKt/bvVQntme7QoypIp21c0TJob1s+7AKHkFnAzEr87XErExfK 592r1VQZoTAkDZqLLLuuvhLhx+lvrmdtuVSpTtRAUO54mbRwknBa7CzCBRrJgwoMHrzz pVQfEs02rqLRtjkuhyVvIYdBdwjcR5PqSGV0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RGlBqtz2okkBSzovNrrsMciOdP74jcte4rJFJYL2OwH6xBh7CG2LrVncnbqKx4cKPH Rg0A7dwGLHzF+hGmgTOo+bp/GFJAqxpLT63oyIYij5AV1JpJNqfCpAWS+qy32tOxqRQS FYPKy5DFKNh0ZPb1flaoCM69kMsrr81HiiorI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr25754mur.16.1233232997079; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:43:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090129022349.GB34877@thought.org> References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> <20090128230916.GA29328@thought.org> <20090129022349.GB34877@thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:43:16 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Reko Turja , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:43:19 -0000 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:33:41PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:32:57PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Gary Kline > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: > > > > > > >so what is the best commercial/shareware that can read a > 10pt-font > > > > > > >file? (( also, when i have time to get back into actually > hacking, > > > > > > >this [[turning imaged pdf into OCR'able ascii or 8859-1]] is > giong > > > > > > >to > > > > > > >be a first target. any idea which team i should go with. gOCR > > > > > > >looks > > > > > > >best so far to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > AABBYY Finereader - Omnipage haven't been able to catch it in > several > > > > > > years either feature or qualitywise. No idea if Finereader runs > under > > > > > > emulator though. If the file is already a PDF and 72 DPI with > text > > > as > > > > > > graphics most of the damage has already been done, and it will be > > > > > > extremely hard to OCR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the > resolution? > > > > > i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif files, > but > > > > > then that's really absurd since there can only be just so > much > > > > > data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and smoothing > image > > > to > > > > > refine, but too much hassle. > > > > > > > > > > (i used gocr -m 130 and "saw" the glyphs it (presumably) > saw. > > > > > seemed pretty much okay to my eyes. but then i'm not a > computer > > > > > program. [MAYBE :)] > > > > > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Reko > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public > Service > > > > > Unix > > > > > http://jottings.thought.org > http://transfinite.thought.org > > > > > The 2.23a release of Jottings: > > > http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > At one point in time, the Abby folks were offering a back-end that > ran on > > > > FreeBSD. I tried to get the free download; but it never happened. > (They > > > > misplaced my signed, faxed license agreement and I finally got tired > of > > > the > > > > back-and-forth prerequisite communication.) > > > > > > > > Abby also no longer supports Mac OS X. I use an old version and like > it > > > a > > > > lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, now i know what to expect. I found theit site and signed > up > > > to get the linux version; trial. not likrly to go any > > > further.... > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > -- > > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > > Unix > > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > The 2.23a release of Jottings: > http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > > > > > > > I'm rooting for you! :-) > > > well, i just got an email from a david hazard who said to look on > their website; i replied that i had and couldn't find their test > suite.... if/when this guy replies, i'll share. > > gary > > Start here: http://www.abbyy.com/sdk/?param=59956 I will try again, as well. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:00:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD0B10656C3 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC4358FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 27220 invoked by uid 98); 29 Jan 2009 12:57:19 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. Processed in 5.246556 secs); 29 Jan 2009 12:57:19 -0000 Received: from main.lerwick.hopto.org (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 12:57:13 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:59:44 +0000 Message-Id: <1233233984.1350.13.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ultranav usb keyboard panics on bootup -- stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:00:26 -0000 Hi All Anybody know how I work around the following panic ?? panic: ohci_add_done: addr 0x7fef1c30 not found cpuid = 0 Uptime: 1s I have just purchased a new Lenovo ultranav usb keyboard from . (My old ibm ps/2 one died) http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpresentation/index.php?product_id=LEN31P9304&nbs_search=C%3D106%26S%3D1040%26lang%3Den-gb%26K%3D%26M%3DLEN The panic is definitely happening because of the usb keyboard (with integrated mouse), if I take it out and replace with a ps/2 counterpart the computer boots up normally. Regards Craig Butler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:08:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC13106567D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1E48FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so349651ugs.39 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:08:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Hhg+Cvr51j9vzCS8PZAEftutLBi5JKzgcYUzOhllgQ=; b=VWojDoaC5JJTMpdCWdU1Z3MOxxYluKYti1cKCcxT+UE9U6EoysbeIYujX34jRWC4o7 xerzyl/IXW3BdyZ3FKTMZQvQJyoKZ5BkYEyT8mr69DDsMF9WF7swkjpMZE7thVVpvNb0 j11ccSdBRBTJkh91fGf/81HR3yvsiuGpvkr9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZslSzvwL7cqE2/PJ0PuYSr11IAa94L+ZkvmVFShY+2NrOaKbVRf3OUQaiord5Ux927 uZFvFqKqqxKUv4SpSRWxlZ4WG7MzBxdnRYH6y6+pxHwmi1gU3mRkNKGX14Fu/yoCBawb jD8ran60oq/vRv8dZf94LRV2VDObYC1pAGjj8= Received: by 10.67.106.13 with SMTP id i13mr3743578ugm.7.1233234526869; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-4557718.home.otenet.gr [94.70.87.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b35sm17617742ugd.33.2009.01.29.05.08.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:08:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4981AA5C.6030509@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:08:44 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> <94136a2c0901290219x1e9cf1c1x181be22c99006c60@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0901290219x1e9cf1c1x181be22c99006c60@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:08:48 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:40, krad@snaffler.net wrote: > >>> After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single >>> user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). >>> >>> How can this be done with a remote machine? >>> >>> >>> >> NO without serial access or some kind of ALOM card eg DELL DRAC CARD, as you >> will have no ip up >> >> > > Then correct me if I am wrong but if I do not have such a card, then I > am better off using freebsd-update since it does not require me to > boot in single user mode? > > Thanks! > > Yes, freebsd-update does not require single user mode. Just follow the updated handbook instructions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html#FREEBSDUPDATE-UPGRADE As an additional precaution, edit the /etc/rc.conf file and comment out all non essential services when rebooting with the GENERIC kernel in the intermediate step (assuming you were using a custom kernel). Re-enable them when you rebuild your custom kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:11:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317A4106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABC38FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C701CC95; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:11:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bzuQ0rtyN1Tf; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:11:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from rivendell (a88-114-134-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.114.134.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192741CC67; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:11:08 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: "Gary Kline" , "Andrew Gould" References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org><319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell><20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org><20090128230916.GA29328@thought.org> <20090129022349.GB34877@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20090129022349.GB34877@thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:11:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:11:26 -0000 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Kline" Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:23 AM To: "Andrew Gould" Cc: "Reko Turja" ; "FreeBSD Mailing List"=20 Subject: Re: OCR... > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:33:41PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary Kline =20 >> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:32:57PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: >> > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Gary Kline =20 >> > > wrote: >> > > > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the=20 >> > > > resolution? >> > > > i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif=20 >> > > > files, but >> > > > then that's really absurd since there can only be just=20 >> > > > so much >> > > > data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and=20 >> > > > smoothing image Yeah, if the image resolution is already at 72DPI, there's sadly no=20 trick in the world that can reliably return the "lost" information.=20 I've read some horrid scans with low resolution in Finereader, and it=20 can grab much of the information nicely. With low resolution be=20 prepared to manually correcting problem spots though. Only reliable=20 way to quesstimate resolution is the font size when at 100% in the=20 screen. If the text is about 10 pixels high, the information has=20 probably been stored in 72DPI for space saving purposes. Wasn't aware of the FreeBSD/Linux backend, but if that works it'd be=20 great - haven't myself visited their website in ages as the version I=20 have does the job I got it for. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:14:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE811065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA9D8FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:14:46 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0TDEkXx011292; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:14:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:14:46 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: WATANABE Kazuhiro Message-ID: <20090129131446.GB11007@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090128161350.GA16103@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090129130520.A2A0863F48@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090129130520.A2A0863F48@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2009 13:14:46.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[8EC42AE0:01C98213] Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: 7.1R port www/webkit-gtk2 installs fine but fails to pkg_create X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:14:49 -0000 El día Thursday, January 29, 2009 a las 10:05:20PM +0900, WATANABE Kazuhiro escribió: > Hi. > > How about a patch described in this PR? > > ports/130891: www/webkit-gtk2: [patch] doesn't compile/install libwebkit-1.0.a > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=130891 Thanks for pointing me to this PR; it was my fault not having searched enough; will do so next time; it seems that in the above PR is a proposal for a fix, but not approved; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen >From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:20:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5A4106568E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0098FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id d26so114507eyd.7 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:20:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b0pcsyVNmFFyucO4eK7sfuLFynmPIGckPH1ZDjajTc0=; b=D88SXZ29eFV2fextmRxTEj0rGugAGuTEOTvFSFmotm+mq/FzRvYX+yiVGHghzPvmXd GOh6U1e9iZ6YgTO2WvxCVe2oZPEJiFu1cKY/W6I/ZYfx9w4kbGRkhVOL2E6aAdjWd+co eRIsxkj69OOeO+xKoHh97a1nENV40KpyZPvOI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=exWWeuw6tCsUHI/9TeIhjuBbe3tP72zCnxDOgUMmkvetoXc7ATaEmSiRX3iuNAXs2P MFSEK847VeUTnmGcje5k878v/Nrh3BoJAwCzCZKyrbH4CGZd2MDpGPCnRw8u6rsDKhYe Sy9rOY3R43FsmA8/5Illi+g4M5xMa/GrlErm8= Received: by 10.210.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr39522eba.95.1233233275633; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.25.0.130? ([196.7.14.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h6sm51073627nfh.64.2009.01.29.04.47.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:47:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4981A577.6090002@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:47:51 +0200 From: Gunther Mayer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Saving pf state for accounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:20:56 -0000 Hi guys, My server uses up tons of bandwidth every month and I'd like to start recording what traffic volumes my different services chew up on a monthly basis. My firewall utility of choice is pf and I've recently come across its neat "label" facility so that I can do a simple "pfctl -sl" to get the latest readings. That's all fair and well but I lose all that lovely accounting information upon reboot so how do I go about saving this? I've googled quite a bit to look for a solution but have found nothing useful so far, just unanswered posts in the past. From what I can tell so far I'd have to write a custom rc script which redirects "pfctl -sl" into some sort of logfile which then may be retrieved at a later stage (and added to current counter output). Is there an easier way perhaps? Gunther From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:21:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587EF10656EC for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B508FC23 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@troback.com) Received: from server09.gelita.swe (212-162-182-242.skbbip.com [212.162.182.242]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5DC10E789 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:46:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:46:21 +0100 From: Anders Troback To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090129134621.292ce716@server09.gelita.swe> In-Reply-To: <4981A33A.8060302@comcast.net> References: <4981A33A.8060302@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Troback-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: CD5DC10E789.D557C X-Troback-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Troback-MailScanner-From: freebsd@troback.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: KDE: What a monster!] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:21:51 -0000 Den Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:18 -0500 skrev Akenner : > I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some > things used I haven't even heard of before. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:26:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2D41065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from mail.asahi-net.or.jp (mail2.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B7E8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from asahi-net.jp (l205136.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [218.219.205.136]) by mail.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A0863F48; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:05:20 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:05:20 +0900 From: WATANABE Kazuhiro To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20090128161350.GA16103@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090128161350.GA16103@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20090129130520.A2A0863F48@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> Cc: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: 7.1R port www/webkit-gtk2 installs fine but fails to pkg_create X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:26:34 -0000 Hi. How about a patch described in this PR? ports/130891: www/webkit-gtk2: [patch] doesn't compile/install libwebkit-1.0.a http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=130891 At Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:13:50 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > the pkg_create of the port www/webkit-gtk2 (webkit-gtk2-1.0.1_4) fails > with: > > # pkg_create -Rnb webkit-gtk2-1.0.1_4 > tar: lib/libwebkit-1.0.a: Cannot stat: No such file or directory > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. > pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 > > Thx > > matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz > Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH > Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ > b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ > > SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen > >From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion --- WATANABE Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:26:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B56610656D0 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186188FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59FDFEBC3F; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:26:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:26:54 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Artem Kuchin Message-Id: <20090129082654.f4f9ae25.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> References: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 6.8 became very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:26:57 -0000 In response to Artem Kuchin : > I have a very strange situation here. There was a hosting box with 5 > jails. > Everything is 6.4 > It was running twe driver with RAID 5. > > Then i had a crash and had to reinstall the system. > > So, i have installed FREEBSD 6.8, cvsed the latest, rebuilt everything > and then > just copied jails from the prev installation. So, the host system is 6.8 > and the jails are 6.4. > Also, raid is MIRROR now, not RAID5. OK. I originally thought your subject was a typo, but this is the second place where you mentioned 6.8. Not only would you have to go into the future to get 6.8, but you'd have to slip into an alternate reality, since 6.5 is expected to be the last release on the 6 branch. What is the output of uname -a? If you really have something called 6.8, where on earth did you get it? > The problem is that now everything became really slow. > > When i do top i see: > load averages: 16.45, 14.86, 13.86 > 737 processes: 20 running, 703 sleeping, 14 zombie > CPU: 15.9% user, 0.0% nice, 81.9% system, 2.2% interrupt, 0.0% idle > > Everything pretty much as it was. But 82% system CPU is really weird. I > don;t remember > exactly, but i think it was not like this before. AFAIK it meas 82% of > CPU time is spent in > the kernel. gstat output seems to indicate nothing unusual, so the time spent in the kernel must be for something else, network traffic maybe? Try checking top with -m io to see if anything is showing an unusually high # of context switches. Perhaps do a little easter egg hunting and try shutting down processes to see what is using up all the system time. Once you've got it narrowed down you can run ktrace on the problematic process to see what it's doing. HTH -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:51:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C081065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biju@cyber-gear.com) Received: from cyber-gear.com (cyber-gear.com [161.58.211.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C0A8FC2B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biju@cyber-gear.com) Received: from BijuMathew.cyber-gear.com (dxb-b125472.alshamil.net.ae [86.98.41.72]) (authenticated bits=0) by cyber-gear.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0TDEUdX044524; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:14:34 +0400 (GST) Message-Id: <200901291314.n0TDEUdX044524@cyber-gear.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:14:19 +0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Biju M. Varughese" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: sheni@cyber-gear.com Subject: PHP 5 Upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:51:43 -0000 Dear Support: We are trying to install PHP 5 on our VDS server. However, we are getting the below error messages. /ports/lang/php5# make php5-5.2.6_2 cannot be installed: bad X_WINDOW_SYSTEM setting; valid value is 'xorg'. *** Error code 1 Stop in /ports/lang/php5. cybergearnetworknine /ports/lang/php5# /ports/lang/php5# make install ===> php5-5.2.6_2 cannot be installed: bad X_WINDOW_SYSTEM setting; valid value is 'xorg'. *** Error code 1 Please advise how to proceed. The package is available in /ports/lang/php5/ location. 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(192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 16:51:45 +0300 Message-ID: <4981B45F.8040606@itlegion.ru> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:51:27 +0300 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> <20090129082654.f4f9ae25.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20090129082654.f4f9ae25.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 6.8 became very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:51:48 -0000 Bill Moran ?????: > In response to Artem Kuchin : > > >> I have a very strange situation here. There was a hosting box with 5 >> jails. >> Everything is 6.4 >> It was running twe driver with RAID 5. >> >> Then i had a crash and had to reinstall the system. >> >> So, i have installed FREEBSD 6.8, cvsed the latest, rebuilt everything >> and then >> just copied jails from the prev installation. So, the host system is 6.8 >> and the jails are 6.4. >> Also, raid is MIRROR now, not RAID5. >> > > OK. I originally thought your subject was a typo, but this is the > second place where you mentioned 6.8. > > Not only would you have to go into the future to get 6.8, but you'd > have to slip into an alternate reality, since 6.5 is expected to be > the last release on the 6 branch. > > What is the output of uname -a? If you really have something called > 6.8, where on earth did you get it? > > Apparently i just made it up. I should change the tea i drink or check the water source. Of course the new is still 6.4 just updates to the latest sources. Maybe i got confuses about the version since it is the last server running version 6 and i was kind of subconsciously sure that 6.8 must be the last before 7 :) >> The problem is that now everything became really slow. >> >> When i do top i see: >> load averages: 16.45, 14.86, 13.86 >> 737 processes: 20 running, 703 sleeping, 14 zombie >> CPU: 15.9% user, 0.0% nice, 81.9% system, 2.2% interrupt, 0.0% idle >> >> Everything pretty much as it was. But 82% system CPU is really weird. I >> don;t remember >> exactly, but i think it was not like this before. AFAIK it meas 82% of >> CPU time is spent in >> the kernel. >> > > gstat output seems to indicate nothing unusual, so the time spent in > the kernel must be for something else, network traffic maybe? Try > checking top with -m io to see if anything is showing an unusually > high # of context switches. > > Perhaps do a little easter egg hunting and try shutting down processes > to see what is using up all the system time. Once you've got it > narrowed down you can run ktrace on the problematic process to see > what it's doing. > > Well, the trick is it was not so before and i did not change anything. It is a web hosting server and host around 100 sites with a lot of perl running. 22533 xxx 1 130 0 21276K 12904K CPU2 2 0:02 62.68% perl5.8.8 22545 xxx 1 116 0 3592K 2992K RUN 3 0:01 51.00% perl 22542 xxx 1 -4 0 5448K 3908K CPU0 0 0:01 43.05% perl 22546 xxx 1 -4 0 3564K 2968K RUN 0 0:01 36.00% perl 22501 xxx 1 4 0 25168K 17148K sbwait 3 0:04 20.84% perl5.8.8 21165 xxx 1 130 0 15168K 12248K RUN 0 0:59 17.29% perl 22556 xxx 1 -4 0 3596K 2900K RUN 0 0:00 15.00% perl5.8.8 18125 xxx 1 113 0 26912K 18908K select 2 0:10 14.94% httpd 22495 xxx 1 4 0 25168K 17152K sbwait 0 0:04 12.50% perl5.8.8 22496 xxx 1 4 0 15056K 13832K sbwait 3 0:04 12.01% perl5.8.8 22502 xxx 1 4 0 8640K 7436K sbwait 1 0:02 11.57% perl5.8.8 It they have been running before and it was a lot faster. top -m io shows 0.00% for all processes. The memory is more than enough: Mem: 3081M Active, 3702M Inact, 339M Wired, 395M Cache, 112M Buf, 511M Free I tried disabling mysql just for fun. I did not help. Shutting down process by process is not an option because 1) it is a production server 2) there over 700 processes trafshow shows average CPS about 400K/sec - not much and as it was before. So, is there anyway to see what kernel is doing and why system load is so high? -- Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:37:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DD6106575B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138E08FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAFNOgUnUnw4T/2dsb2JhbADMQoQQBg Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 29 Jan 2009 14:37:43 +0000 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1LSY1X-0003FG-7s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:37:43 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSY1W-00017w-J8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:37:43 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:37:42 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> <49819ED0.5030003@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <49819ED0.5030003@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901291437.42413.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 1dc73c480d7b99e901ef44e10189d12d Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:37:46 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009, Akenner wrote: > For some reason if you follow along line by line in the book "FreeBSD > Unleashed Second edition" which was written and came with 5.0 on CD, > it doesn't work at all for some reason. I think there must have been > a few changes in the way things are done between these versions but I > couldn't get those instructions to work at all. I'm sure it works > great on 5.0 but I kind of fell for 7.1 like a school kid lol. It's well worth getting yourself a copy of Michael Lucas's "Absolute FreeBSD" 2nd edition. It's an excellent companion for 7.x. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 14:49:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444431065765 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DA508FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 89773 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2009 17:49:19 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 17:49:19 +0300 Message-ID: <4981C1DD.5090402@itlegion.ru> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:49:01 +0300 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> <49819ED0.5030003@comcast.net> <200901291437.42413.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200901291437.42413.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:49:22 -0000 Mike Clarke ?????: > On Thursday 29 January 2009, Akenner wrote: > > >> For some reason if you follow along line by line in the book "FreeBSD >> Unleashed Second edition" which was written and came with 5.0 on CD, >> it doesn't work at all for some reason. I think there must have been >> a few changes in the way things are done between these versions but I >> couldn't get those instructions to work at all. I'm sure it works >> great on 5.0 but I kind of fell for 7.1 like a school kid lol. >> > > > I have never had a single problem updating system remotely via internet like this: doing a sup file like this: *default host=cvsup4.FReeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all doc-all tag=. ports-all tag=. Then csup supfile Then cd /usr/local/src make buildworld >& bw check the end of bw make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERN >&bk check what's in bk i redirect output to save the bandwidth and traffic stop as many thing as i can stop make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERN make installworld >&iw check what's in iw mergemaster -p mergemaster disable everything in /local/etc/rc.d and as many as possible in rc.conf shutdown -r now and then it's up and it's a new version! as i said - it never failed! -- Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:09:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF57106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55AE8FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1337673nfh.33 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:09:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FkdGzOg+H9cp3Brq+GMzQOJkr7i6OE8+B8rB3X8hXsQ=; b=ePp4wCaVjZhLIBy1CNwLEbIG93q6ZOe7RYYdanZ1ElYFqX1IBsn8d+FRB3ibll66g3 L+ilzqf5xQ3VJ1ycwUj6rZTgfwLePtRdmg7akwhw+dBctFzOgYpzr9ZbEGZGew+93hgH UKyRjf3sYF0KTPusPMELcOs+wgnlfOqXH/ut8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NNV/8GY+osDBDh/J+icYKeBTF3qhYgXcRlpMYGti9QDuFfCYLkTn11uGwfrAhAlKFq 4Lv0P7hcXdYpenX5bcZdbyqD4J9mt55Nipyl/aDYTkYfsuuwnNX+3gpTHUnINvwaKYBd rCwjaeogiUqD62eOhUhSNaNCPkvgt5+vvevTg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.172.7 with SMTP id z7mr91222muo.15.1233241794614; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:09:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20090128040802.GA94236@thought.org> <319D789FD18042DBB7A19571DA26E5AE@rivendell> <20090128192211.GB22208@thought.org> <20090128230916.GA29328@thought.org> <20090129022349.GB34877@thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:09:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Reko Turja Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OCR... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:09:56 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Reko Turja wrote: > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gary Kline" > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:23 AM > To: "Andrew Gould" > Cc: "Reko Turja" ; "FreeBSD Mailing List" < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: OCR... > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:33:41PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >>> >>> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:32:57PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: >>> > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Gary Kline > > >>> wrote: >>> >> > > > > well, damage is probably done. how can i check the > > > >>> resolution? >>> > > > i tried to increase it by creating huge ppm and tif > > > >>> files, but >>> > > > then that's really absurd since there can only be just > > > >>> so much >>> > > > data per image. i _could_ try xv and jpeg and > > > >>> smoothing image >>> >> > Yeah, if the image resolution is already at 72DPI, there's sadly no trick > in the world that can reliably return the "lost" information. I've read some > horrid scans with low resolution in Finereader, and it can grab much of the > information nicely. With low resolution be prepared to manually correcting > problem spots though. Only reliable way to quesstimate resolution is the > font size when at 100% in the screen. If the text is about 10 pixels high, > the information has probably been stored in 72DPI for space saving purposes. > > Wasn't aware of the FreeBSD/Linux backend, but if that works it'd be great > - haven't myself visited their website in ages as the version I have does > the job I got it for. > > -Reko > I may have used the wrong term. I think it used to be an sdk; but now there's a product with "extended platform support" for Linux and FreeBSD. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:12:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D24106575C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1238FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD8DAFBCCB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:12:06 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:12:06 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901291314.n0TDEUdX044524@cyber-gear.com> In-Reply-To: <200901291314.n0TDEUdX044524@cyber-gear.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901290612.06347.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: sheni@cyber-gear.com, "Biju M. Varughese" Subject: Re: PHP 5 Upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:12:08 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009 04:14:19 Biju M. Varughese wrote: > Dear Support: > > We are trying to install PHP 5 on our VDS server. However, we are > getting the below error messages. > > /ports/lang/php5# make > php5-5.2.6_2 cannot be installed: bad X_WINDOW_SYSTEM setting; valid > value is 'xorg'. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /ports/lang/php5. 1) Remove X_WINDOW_SYSTEM from /etc/make.conf 2) Update ports tree. 5.6.2 has known vulnerabilities. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:20:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03AD106567D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C978FC23 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F79AFBCCB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:20:47 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:20:47 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4981A577.6090002@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4981A577.6090002@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901290620.47704.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Gunther Mayer Subject: Re: Saving pf state for accounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:20:49 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009 03:47:51 Gunther Mayer wrote: > That's all fair and well but I lose all that lovely accounting > information upon reboot so how do I go about saving this? I've googled > quite a bit to look for a solution but have found nothing useful so far, > just unanswered posts in the past. The package of choice for traffic accounting is radius. That said, it's probably more work to set up initially then hacking the rc script, if you don't need it's authentication facilities. > From what I can tell so far I'd have to write a custom rc script which > redirects "pfctl -sl" into some sort of logfile which then may be > retrieved at a later stage (and added to current counter output). Is > there an easier way perhaps? Not that I can see, especially since for completeness, you'd have to hack the actual /etc/rc.d/pf, because statistics are reset upon rule reload. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:28:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1CD106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8258FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D10AFBCCB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:28:51 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:28:50 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901290628.50945.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: 6.8 became very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:28:52 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009 02:44:56 Artem Kuchin wrote: > I have a very strange situation here. There was a hosting box with 5 > jails. > Everything is 6.4 > It was running twe driver with RAID 5. > > Then i had a crash and had to reinstall the system. > > So, i have installed FREEBSD 6.8, cvsed the latest, rebuilt everything > and then > just copied jails from the prev installation. So, the host system is 6.8 > and the jails are 6.4. > Also, raid is MIRROR now, not RAID5. If you had to reinstall, you may have missed a boot loader configuration. I would investigate how your raid5 went to MIRROR, that would certainly account for the high system time if the OS and raid card think differently about the raid system used. How you'd go about this, is for someone else to answer. I personally would compare daily runs and dmesg's saved from before reinstall with current installation. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:39:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B84A1065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9068F8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 91164 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2009 18:39:41 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 29 Jan 2009 18:39:41 +0300 Message-ID: <4981CDAA.9000001@itlegion.ru> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:39:22 +0300 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> <200901290628.50945.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901290628.50945.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.8 became very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:43 -0000 Mel =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > On Thursday 29 January 2009 02:44:56 Artem Kuchin wrote: > =20 >> I have a very strange situation here. There was a hosting box with 5 >> jails. >> Everything is 6.4 >> It was running twe driver with RAID 5. >> >> Then i had a crash and had to reinstall the system. >> >> So, i have installed FREEBSD 6.8, cvsed the latest, rebuilt everything= >> and then >> just copied jails from the prev installation. So, the host system is 6= =2E8 >> and the jails are 6.4. >> Also, raid is MIRROR now, not RAID5. >> =20 > > If you had to reinstall, you may have missed a boot loader configuratio= n. I=20 > would investigate how your raid5 went to MIRROR, that would certainly a= ccount=20 > for the high system time if the OS and raid card think differently abou= t the=20 > raid system used. > How you'd go about this, is for someone else to answer. I personally wo= uld=20 > compare daily runs and dmesg's saved from before reinstall with current= =20 > installation. > =20 I am sure this is not the case because the new raid was simply recreated = manually using 3ware bios and then freebsd installed and then old data copied from backup. BTW, here are the interrupts: interrupt total rate irq14: ata0 47 0 irq15: ata1 4818547 3 irq28: em0 137807398 105 irq72: twe0 66970618 51 cpu0: timer 2606991398 2000 cpu1: timer 2596549865 1992 cpu2: timer 2606991199 2000 cpu3: timer 2596549863 1992 Total 10616678935 8145 And here is vmstat -i output from another box running 7.1 interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 1478 0 irq6: fdc0 1 0 irq14: ata0 69 0 irq17: pcm0 twe0 37631996 27 irq21: fxp0 30360322 21 irq22: fxp1 86882 0 irq23: rl0 31359763 22 cpu0: timer 556023401 399 cpu1: timer 557037363 399 Total 1212501275 870 So, this 6.4 gets 9 times more interrupts (mostly timer). Is is okay? -- Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:00:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA6D106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E708FC1E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp15.yandex.ru (smtp15.yandex.ru [77.88.32.85]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9FD1519364B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:00:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 213-120-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net ([94.179.120.213]:9220 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S4866165AbZA2QA2 (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:00:28 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp15 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233244828 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 1 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp15.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:00:26 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1868031977.20090129180026@yandex.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:00:34 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Questions. I have two routing tables. How to setup two default routes for each routing table in rc.conf? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:26:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2891065670 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBD98FC24 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp5.yandex.ru (smtp5.yandex.ru [77.88.32.24]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id B42A04C5863; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:26:07 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 213-120-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net ([94.179.120.213]:12550 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S6144107AbZA2Q0C (ORCPT + 1 other); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:26:02 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp5 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233246362 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 3 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp5.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:25:53 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <161257714.20090129182553@yandex.ru> To: "Arjan van der Oest" In-Reply-To: References: <1868031977.20090129180026@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:26:11 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Arjan. I mean: options ROUTETABLES=2 Then I do manually: setfib 0 route add default setfib 1 route add default in rc.conf I can do for FIB0: defaultrouter="" How to do same thing for other routing tables? I exepct next feature to exists: defaultrouter_fib1="" AvdO> What exactly do you mean with two routing tables? AvdO> -- AvdO> Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, AvdO> Worldmax Operations B.V. AvdO> AvdO> Arjan van der Oest AvdO> Network Design Engineer AvdO> AvdO> T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 AvdO> F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 AvdO> M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 AvdO> AvdO> GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: AvdO> 2E9F 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 AvdO> -----Original Message----- AvdO> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org AvdO> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of KES AvdO> Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 17:00 AvdO> To: questions@freebsd.org AvdO> Subject: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf AvdO> úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Questions. AvdO> I have two routing tables. AvdO> How to setup two default routes for each routing table in rc.conf? -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:31:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5551065680 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) Received: from worldmax.nl (mail.worldmax.nl [81.28.80.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03E78FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:19:30 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf Thread-Index: AcmCKtiFwzI0EYD8Q4WdHCPZZw1NBQAAl6LA References: <1868031977.20090129180026@yandex.ru> From: "Arjan van der Oest" To: "KES" , Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:31:36 -0000 What exactly do you mean with two routing tables? --=20 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, Worldmax Operations B.V. =20 Arjan van der Oest Network Design Engineer =20 T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 =20 GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: 2E9F = 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of KES Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 17:00 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf =FA=C4=D2=C1=D7=D3=D4=D7=D5=CA=D4=C5, Questions. I have two routing tables. How to setup two default routes for each routing table in rc.conf? --=20 =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: = 1/28/2009 6:37 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:33:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089F81065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) Received: from worldmax.nl (mail.worldmax.nl [81.28.80.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687168FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.3959 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: normal Priority: normal Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:33:53 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re[2]: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf Thread-Index: AcmCLkt0D6HRwgAASwSYTi4T8jAa5QAAKkUA References: <1868031977.20090129180026@yandex.ru> <161257714.20090129182553@yandex.ru> From: "Arjan van der Oest" To: "KES" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Re[2]: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:33:47 -0000 Funny, I wasn't aware of this new option in 7.1, hence my question. From = what I see some stuff is already modified to use this new option (like = ipfw), but others require the setfib utility. I'm not sure if you can = add routes directly from rc.conf, but why not try 'setfib - route = add xxx' ? (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/errata.html) --=20 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, Worldmax Operations B.V. =20 =20 Arjan van der Oest Network Design Engineer =20 T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 =20 GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: 2E9F = 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 -----Original Message----- From: KES [mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru]=20 Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 17:26 To: Arjan van der Oest Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf =FA=C4=D2=C1=D7=D3=D4=D7=D5=CA=D4=C5, Arjan. I mean: options ROUTETABLES=3D2 Then I do manually: setfib 0 route add default setfib 1 route add default in rc.conf I can do for FIB0: defaultrouter=3D"" How to do same thing for other routing tables? I exepct next feature to exists: defaultrouter_fib1=3D"" AvdO> What exactly do you mean with two routing tables? AvdO> --=20 AvdO> Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, AvdO> Worldmax Operations B.V. AvdO> =20 AvdO> Arjan van der Oest AvdO> Network Design Engineer AvdO> =20 AvdO> T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 AvdO> F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 AvdO> M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 AvdO> =20 AvdO> GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: AvdO> 2E9F 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 AvdO> -----Original Message----- AvdO> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org AvdO> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of KES AvdO> Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 17:00 AvdO> To: questions@freebsd.org AvdO> Subject: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf AvdO> =FA=C4=D2=C1=D7=D3=D4=D7=D5=CA=D4=C5, Questions. AvdO> I have two routing tables. AvdO> How to setup two default routes for each routing table in rc.conf? --=20 =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru No virus found in this incoming message. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:36:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB301065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16F38FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp12.yandex.ru (smtp12.yandex.ru [77.88.32.82]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id D01371931E4; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:36:23 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 213-120-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net ([94.179.120.213]:47110 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S5325797AbZA2QgP (ORCPT + 1 other); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:36:15 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp12 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233246975 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 6 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp12.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:36:00 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1689058164.20090129183600@yandex.ru> To: KES In-Reply-To: <161257714.20090129182553@yandex.ru> References: <1868031977.20090129180026@yandex.ru> <161257714.20090129182553@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Arjan van der Oest Subject: Re[3]: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:36:26 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, KES. far more. How to run services in order they use some routing tables? for example: I want that bind use FIB1 instead of FIB0 By default all programms use FIB0. It will be handy If it will possible to configure that in rc.conf like this: apache_enable="YES" apache_fib="1" named_enable="YES" named_fib="2" No matter why I need this. If FreeBSD has such major feature as multiple routing tables than this must be configureable. In this case, I think, in rc.conf ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 29 ÑÎ×ÁÒÑ 2009 Ç., 18:25:53: K> úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Arjan. K> I mean: K> options ROUTETABLES=2 K> Then I do manually: K> setfib 0 route add default K> setfib 1 route add default K> in rc.conf I can do for FIB0: K> defaultrouter="" K> How to do same thing for other routing tables? K> I exepct next feature to exists: K> defaultrouter_fib1="" AvdO>> What exactly do you mean with two routing tables? AvdO>> -- AvdO>> Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, AvdO>> Worldmax Operations B.V. AvdO>> AvdO>> Arjan van der Oest AvdO>> Network Design Engineer AvdO>> AvdO>> T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 AvdO>> F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 AvdO>> M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 AvdO>> AvdO>> GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: AvdO>> 2E9F 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 AvdO>> -----Original Message----- AvdO>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org AvdO>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of KES AvdO>> Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 17:00 AvdO>> To: questions@freebsd.org AvdO>> Subject: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf AvdO>> úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Questions. AvdO>> I have two routing tables. AvdO>> How to setup two default routes for each routing table in rc.conf? -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:38:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC80106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB298FC20 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8F7AFBCCB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:39 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:38 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <498196B8.1060101@itlegion.ru> <200901290628.50945.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <4981CDAA.9000001@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: <4981CDAA.9000001@itlegion.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901290738.38937.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: 6.8 became very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:38:41 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009 06:39:22 Artem Kuchin wrote: > I am sure this is not the case because the new raid was simply recreated > manually using 3ware bios and > then freebsd installed and then old data copied from backup. Ah, I got that wrong from your mail. > BTW, here are the interrupts: > interrupt total rate > irq14: ata0 47 0 > irq15: ata1 4818547 3 > irq28: em0 137807398 105 > irq72: twe0 66970618 51 > cpu0: timer 2606991398 2000 > cpu1: timer 2596549865 1992 > cpu2: timer 2606991199 2000 > cpu3: timer 2596549863 1992 > Total 10616678935 8145 That should be normal: cpu0: timer 961443545 1999 irq256: em0 660532 1 cpu1: timer 961433589 1999 $ sysctl kern.clockrate kern.clockrate: { hz = 1000, tick = 1000, profhz = 2000, stathz = 133 } Not much has gone in 6-STABLE since 6.4 release. I would sync binaries in one jail that is offensive at the moment and restart it. See if the problem goes away for that jail. Resolver libraries and openssl have had an update for security patches, but that doesn't explain the kernel having a hard time. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:44:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED86106570E for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759198FC1C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp14.yandex.ru (smtp14.yandex.ru [77.88.32.84]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id B1C394C5599; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:44:36 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 213-120-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net ([94.179.120.213]:3079 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S393337AbZA2Qoe (ORCPT + 1 other); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:44:34 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp14 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233247474 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 9 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:44:32 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <47281477.20090129184432@yandex.ru> To: KES In-Reply-To: <14510195100.20090127212357@yandex.ru> References: <1292888884.20090127013434@yandex.ru> <79E49174-F6EC-4E97-AB7F-BCE05303A749@mac.com> <14510195100.20090127212357@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[3]: Can not set up two ADSL link to provider X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:44:39 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, KES. Âû ïèñàëè 27 ÿíâàðÿ 2009 ã., 21:23:57: K> Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Chuck. K> Âû ïèñàëè 27 ÿíâàðÿ 2009 ã., 1:57:10: CS>> On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:34 PM, KES wrote: >>> I can not setup two ADSL PPPoE Links to same provider. >>> Because of imposibility to setup route for second connection >>> First connection gets: >>> ng0: flags=88d1 >>> metric 0 mtu 1492 >>> inet 92.113.94.215 --> 195.5.5.203 netmask 0xffffffff >>> >>> Second can not be established because of: >>> Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Add address >>> 92.113.94.249/32->195.5.5.203 to ng1 >>> Jan 27 01:27:55 kes mpd: [UKR_B4] IFACE: Adding IPv4 address to ng1 >>> failed: File exists CS>> You should talk to your network provider and ask them whether they CS>> want you to do multilink PPP or IEEE 802.3ad link aggregation. Either CS>> way, the bonding of the two connections should give you a single CS>> virtual network interface (tunX for the first, probably, and laggX in CS>> the second case) which has only a single route. CS>> For example: CS>> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/erx/junose80/swconfig-physical/html/ethernet-config14.html CS>> ...talks about "After you configure the LAG bundle, you can route IP CS>> traffic over it, create a VLAN over it, or route PPPoE traffic over it." K> I do not want to aggregate links. I want use them as standalone K> I had two servers, two lans and two ADSLs. Now I have one server, four K> NICs: first LAN1, second LAN2, third ADSL1, forth ADSL2 K> I want to route LAN1 through ADSL1, LAN2 through ADSL2. LAN1/LAN2 must K> not interact with each other. For each LAN I use its own FIB (routing K> table). K> Only one problem: I can not run setup two PPPoE link if for second K> link is leased same gateway as for first K> So, is it possible to workaround this problem? In any case I is impossible to talk to my provider. It will change nothing. This is country wide provider. They said: "if you can not configure that on one machine then you must use two.. ((((" Also NOTICE: when I setup second PPPoE connection I setfib 1 (second routing table). So route must be added to second routing table and must not conflict with first, but it does -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 16:48:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836231065688 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6798FC30 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so4063wfg.7 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:48:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W7gm/x/loRjuW17RVlMW8f23fUkwGWz3/OoLRkjP2GE=; b=iKWWo7ssRXz9MxP6RS4eSWkMZvNRIeTniwZQprk2gkTjFDiurBbbk3azogi2OJyuru b7f9KgD/ix0QPTxELyZrsrOMJx+MgPJki3G0sQYkvgaC804e3TpiK0TQ8cw1EhsSrADo 6ukPThSQgKdCang8N3zsfw739virp/NQUEU9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cVLO5uPFrrBu8UVFKibnhTy4nylpf3z1zuWfiUNljIQN+nkrlkgWA/eYshnyQm/zRD WDJRNcL0DKRNfBsPi25vkFkvdt3iGmAQxFmOgDubY5yJc9xlNo+U1glAzSgvepMHXZFW cZpg8tmhZTSuVeVwOvBZoMmDgiiplZhn4SaYk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.254.2 with SMTP id b2mr71720wfi.323.1233246018862; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:20:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:20:18 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sendmail DNS strangeness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:48:22 -0000 For about four days now, I've had these emails stuck in my mailqueue, and I don't understand what the problem is. Sure it says it has a DNS failure, but what does it mean? Jan 29 16:03:19 amnesiac sm-mta[38492]: n0RM2Hlj021695: to=<******>, ctladdr= (80/80), delay=1+18:01:02, xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, pri=8221553, relay=mail2.ukrhosting.com. [91.196.0.5], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: 451 DNS temporary failure (#4.3.0) I've disabled the firewall, I have a known working named on localhost, and resolv.conf is pointing to localhost. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:00:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CFB1065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5133A8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8332562; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:00:13 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8332559; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:00:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4981E097.4060705@radel.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:00:07 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: utisoft@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000605000401000906080501" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail DNS strangeness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:00:15 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000605000401000906080501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Rees wrote: > For about four days now, I've had these emails stuck in my mailqueue, > and I don't understand what the problem is. Sure it says it has a DNS > failure, but what does it mean? > > > Jan 29 16:03:19 amnesiac sm-mta[38492]: n0RM2Hlj021695: to=<******>, > ctladdr= (80/80), delay=1+18:01:02, > xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, pri=8221553, > relay=mail2.ukrhosting.com. [91.196.0.5], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: > 451 DNS temporary failure (#4.3.0) > > > I've disabled the firewall, I have a known working named on localhost, > and resolv.conf is pointing to localhost. Any ideas? Too much sanitation makes it hard to figure out your problem. 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(yurtesen@ispro.net@130.232.138.155) by mail.ispro.net with ESMTPAM; 29 Jan 2009 16:35:07 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 130.232.138.155 Message-ID: <4981DACA.90900@ispro.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:35:22 +0200 From: Evren Yurtesen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Zend Optimizer support for FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:05 -0000 I got this sort of e-mail from Zend, besides using compat_6 what can we do as FreeBSD users? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Zend Optimizer Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:51:10 +0200 From: Howard Clayman To: Hi Evren, It doesn’t look like we are going to support FreeBSD 7 on the Optimzier. I recommend you start using another Linux distribution if you want to use the Zend Optimizer. Tnanks and regards, Howard Clayman Howard Clayman Sales Manager International Markets howard@zend.com t. +972.3.753.9525 / Skype: howardzend -----Original Message----- From: Zend Sales [mailto:sales@zend.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:26 AM To: Howard Clayman Subject: Sales Contact Form Input received: Email: yurtesen@ispro.net FirstName: Evren LastName: Yurtesen Company: ispronet internet services--TR Country: TR State: XX Title: Phone: 358.405073940 Street: 18 Sokak No:12 City: Izmir Comments: Hello, Can you please let us know when will you make Zend Optimizer for FreeBSD 7.x available for download? Thanks, Evren Username: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:03:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AE210656D4 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forwards4.yandex.ru (forwards4.yandex.ru [77.88.32.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2381F8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp12.yandex.ru (smtp12.yandex.ru [77.88.32.82]) by forwards4.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id B7CBE4C5F1A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:02:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 213-120-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net ([94.179.120.213]:50951 "EHLO HOMEUSER" smtp-auth: "kes-kes" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S5325906AbZA2RCs (ORCPT + 1 other); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:02:48 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp12 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1233248568 X-BornDate: 1149541200 X-Yandex-Karma: 0 X-Yandex-KarmaStatus: 0 X-MsgDayCount: 12 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp12.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kes-kes Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:02:45 +0200 From: KES X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: SaftTen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <825952815.20090129190245@yandex.ru> To: "Arjan van der Oest" In-Reply-To: References: <1868031977.20090129180026@yandex.ru> <161257714.20090129182553@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[4]: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: KES List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:01 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Arjan. Yes, it is possible to use 'setfib'. As I write: AvdO> Then I do manually: AvdO> setfib 0 route add default AvdO> setfib 1 route add default Also to run services, I can edit /etc/rc.d scripts, but this is ugly, very ugly. As I said it be handy to have: apache_enable="YES" apache_fib="1" named_enable="YES" named_fib="2" etc ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 29 ÑÎ×ÁÒÑ 2009 Ç., 18:33:53: AvdO> Funny, I wasn't aware of this new option in 7.1, hence my AvdO> question. From what I see some stuff is already modified to use AvdO> this new option (like ipfw), but others require the setfib AvdO> utility. I'm not sure if you can add routes directly from AvdO> rc.conf, but why not try 'setfib - route add xxx' ? AvdO> (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/errata.html) AvdO> -- AvdO> -----Original Message----- AvdO> From: KES [mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru] AvdO> Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 17:26 AvdO> To: Arjan van der Oest AvdO> Cc: questions@freebsd.org AvdO> Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf AvdO> úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Arjan. AvdO> I mean: AvdO> options ROUTETABLES=2 AvdO> Then I do manually: AvdO> setfib 0 route add default AvdO> setfib 1 route add default AvdO> in rc.conf I can do for FIB0: AvdO> defaultrouter="" AvdO> How to do same thing for other routing tables? AvdO> I exepct next feature to exists: AvdO> defaultrouter_fib1="" AvdO>> What exactly do you mean with two routing tables? AvdO>> -- AvdO>> Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, AvdO>> Worldmax Operations B.V. AvdO>> AvdO>> Arjan van der Oest AvdO>> Network Design Engineer AvdO>> AvdO>> T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 AvdO>> F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 AvdO>> M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 AvdO>> AvdO>> GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: AvdO>> 2E9F 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 AvdO>> -----Original Message----- AvdO>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org AvdO>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of KES AvdO>> Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 17:00 AvdO>> To: questions@freebsd.org AvdO>> Subject: FreeBSD 7.1, routing tables, rc.conf AvdO>> úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Questions. AvdO>> I have two routing tables. AvdO>> How to setup two default routes for each routing table in rc.conf? -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, KES mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:03:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656A710656C0 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1159F8FC17 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so19396qyk.19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:03:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=pIbYu9+WOJqmsW0R3WuE72QrLiKjpH4ttIyX930VTgI=; b=t1UyWpb98yZoClbbWVwj8D72H0leTRM/DjFpe1rNAvwCnK4L7x46l0WO/MyWRX0UKJ 6y5HGlDCZG2Q8vRg0XNQ53BjQ3215tZS5WmR6eJVbE504ZONa9ZmO8UPpqroLHsVDgxE oiOhe5VQu7gS3YxbwZerAtpiiXg+OOMFhcbH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=bW//SV0mIRXSkgV9OKFRluVzXsuCNaExlWY5H8auaJxQXWIJeabthFs+Eh/ryTuRCC jbeKIWLAnbLLVSuDLJ3/E8qceo6IRIwURsUnslaceIIYrvoa8U4qiuoOphBWA7D7C3iq bvbQYvKPovIOwbQeKOokDgnOEZp99NfOse3ZA= Received: by 10.229.81.129 with SMTP id x1mr296663qck.16.1233248596383; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm9359129ywc.59.2009.01.29.09.03.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:03:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:03:43 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: utisoft@gmail.com Message-ID: <20090129170343.GA5233@orion> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail DNS strangeness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:17 -0000 Chris Rees said: > For about four days now, I've had these emails stuck in my mailqueue, > and I don't understand what the problem is. Sure it says it has a DNS > failure, but what does it mean? > > > Jan 29 16:03:19 amnesiac sm-mta[38492]: n0RM2Hlj021695: to=<******>, > ctladdr= (80/80), delay=1+18:01:02, > xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, pri=8221553, > relay=mail2.ukrhosting.com. [91.196.0.5], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: > 451 DNS temporary failure (#4.3.0) > > Do you have 'hostname' set in rc.conf? 'amnesiac' is the default hostname if you haven't set one. Also, do you have your hostname in /etc/hosts ? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:08:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112AC10656CA for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) Received: from mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-filter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.100.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962518FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) X-Trace: 139224261/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-TRUSTED/b2c-IMPLICITLY_TRUSTED/212.74.112.53/None/krad@snaffler.net X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 212.74.112.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: krad@snaffler.net X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQAAARxgUnUSnA1/2dsb2JhbAAIzS2EEAY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,345,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="139224261" Received: from e1-1.ns500-1.ts.milt.as9105.net (HELO [10.44.24.27]) ([212.74.112.53]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Jan 2009 17:07:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4981E257.7050005@snaffler.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:07:35 +0000 From: "krad@snaffler.net" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Artem Kuchin References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> <49819ED0.5030003@comcast.net> <200901291437.42413.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <4981C1DD.5090402@itlegion.ru> In-Reply-To: <4981C1DD.5090402@itlegion.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:08:25 -0000 I have done that many times without hitch but would never recommend it on a production box even though i have never seen an issue in real world situations. Note the mergemaster -p should be done before the installword as it sometimes add new accounts and things that the installworld needs to complete. Artem Kuchin wrote: > > > Mike Clarke ?????: >> On Thursday 29 January 2009, Akenner wrote: >> >> >>> For some reason if you follow along line by line in the book "FreeBSD >>> Unleashed Second edition" which was written and came with 5.0 on CD, >>> it doesn't work at all for some reason. I think there must have been >>> a few changes in the way things are done between these versions but I >>> couldn't get those instructions to work at all. I'm sure it works >>> great on 5.0 but I kind of fell for 7.1 like a school kid lol. >>> >> >> >> > > I have never had a single problem updating system remotely via > internet like this: > > doing a sup file like this: > > *default host=cvsup4.FReeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > > src-all > doc-all tag=. > ports-all tag=. > > Then > > csup supfile > > Then > cd /usr/local/src > make buildworld >& bw > check the end of bw > make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERN >&bk > check what's in bk > > i redirect output to save the bandwidth and traffic > stop as many thing as i can stop > > make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERN > make installworld >&iw > > check what's in iw > > mergemaster -p > mergemaster > > disable everything in /local/etc/rc.d and as many as possible in rc.conf > > shutdown -r now > > and then it's up and it's a new version! > > as i said - it never failed! > > -- > Artem > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:20:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203B8106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from smtpserver.misty.com (chloe.misty.com [198.137.254.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6078FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from [70.7.65.193] (70-7-65-193.pools.spcsdns.net [70.7.65.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver.misty.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0TGg1Pc012237 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:42:10 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:50:32 -0800 From: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: ISOs Thread-Index: AcmCKVDwklj2fYdCck+z6iNpgMOqFQ== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:20:16 -0000 Dear Sir or Ma'am: I have tried to search Google and that, but probably am not using the right conglomerate of keywords to find what I want to know, so I am resigned to asking you. I recently noticed that there are quite a number of DVDs and CD-ROMs out for FreeBSD, and I'd like to give it a try. So I downloaded the amd64-all torrent, but I fear I likely have more ISOs than I need. Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? What are all the other ISOs? I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I am asking. 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. -- Very Respectfully, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil NRO: teners@nro.mil TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:20:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64051065676 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226A68FC29 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0THKS81032603; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:20:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0THKSAs032600; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:20:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:20:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Evren Yurtesen In-Reply-To: <4981DACA.90900@ispro.net> Message-ID: <20090129182006.F32595@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4981DACA.90900@ispro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Zend Optimizer support for FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:20:40 -0000 another "professional" company that can't take 10 minutes to recompile. funny ;) On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > I got this sort of e-mail from Zend, besides using compat_6 what can we do as > FreeBSD users? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Zend Optimizer > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:51:10 +0200 > From: Howard Clayman > To: > > > > Hi Evren, > > It doesn?t look like we are going to support FreeBSD 7 on the Optimzier. > I recommend you start using another Linux distribution if you want to > use the Zend Optimizer. > > Tnanks and regards, > > Howard Clayman > > > > Howard Clayman > Sales Manager International Markets > howard@zend.com > t. +972.3.753.9525 / Skype: howardzend > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zend Sales [mailto:sales@zend.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:26 AM > To: Howard Clayman > Subject: Sales Contact Form > > > Input received: > > Email: yurtesen@ispro.net > FirstName: Evren > LastName: Yurtesen > Company: ispronet internet services--TR > Country: TR > State: XX > Title: > Phone: 358.405073940 > Street: 18 Sokak No:12 > City: Izmir > Comments: Hello, > > Can you please let us know when will you make Zend Optimizer for FreeBSD > 7.x available for download? > > Thanks, > Evren > Username: > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:31:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7681065673 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net) Received: from mail.ispro.net (mail.ispro.net [87.251.0.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0C38FC13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net) Received: (qmail 39081 invoked by uid 399); 29 Jan 2009 17:31:24 -0000 Received: from perpetual.yok.utu.fi (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (yurtesen@ispro.net@130.232.138.155) by mail.ispro.net with ESMTPAM; 29 Jan 2009 17:31:24 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 130.232.138.155 Message-ID: <4981E7FE.2010100@ispro.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:31:42 +0200 From: Evren Yurtesen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <4981DACA.90900@ispro.net> <20090129182006.F32595@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090129182006.F32595@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Zend Optimizer support for FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:31:38 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > another "professional" company that can't take 10 minutes to recompile. > funny ;) I already replied and mentioned that it is ironic since the official php.net site is even using FreeBSD :) I also reminded that FreeBSD is NOT a yet another Linux distribution. I think he didnt even know what is FreeBSD. Weird eh? Plus, ionCube already provided FreeBSD 7 64bit binaries... Probably we should all switch to ionCube heh :) > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > >> I got this sort of e-mail from Zend, besides using compat_6 what can >> we do as FreeBSD users? >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Zend Optimizer >> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:51:10 +0200 >> From: Howard Clayman >> To: >> >> >> >> Hi Evren, >> >> It doesn?t look like we are going to support FreeBSD 7 on the Optimzier. >> I recommend you start using another Linux distribution if you want to >> use the Zend Optimizer. >> >> Tnanks and regards, >> >> Howard Clayman >> >> >> >> Howard Clayman >> Sales Manager International Markets >> howard@zend.com >> t. +972.3.753.9525 / Skype: howardzend >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Zend Sales [mailto:sales@zend.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:26 AM >> To: Howard Clayman >> Subject: Sales Contact Form >> >> >> Input received: >> >> Email: yurtesen@ispro.net >> FirstName: Evren >> LastName: Yurtesen >> Company: ispronet internet services--TR >> Country: TR >> State: XX >> Title: >> Phone: 358.405073940 >> Street: 18 Sokak No:12 >> City: Izmir >> Comments: Hello, >> >> Can you please let us know when will you make Zend Optimizer for FreeBSD >> 7.x available for download? >> >> Thanks, >> Evren >> Username: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:46:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF0C106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941ED8FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0THY4rY063766; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:34:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0THY3ZU063763; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:34:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:34:03 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:46:14 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: > Dear Sir or Ma'am: > > I have tried to search Google and that, but probably am not using the > right conglomerate of keywords to find what I want to know, so I am resigned > to asking you. > > I recently noticed that there are quite a number of DVDs and CD-ROMs out > for FreeBSD, and I'd like to give it a try. So I downloaded the amd64-all > torrent, but I fear I likely have more ISOs than I need. > > Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? > > What are all the other ISOs? > > I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I am > asking. > > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso This is only a very minimalistic Operating System/Installation CD, nearly everything has to be downloaded from the internet. You should know what you do, when you use this. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso These are the release CD's. You will need at least disc1. The others contain collections of useful software and information. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso Contains the stuff of the four CD's > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso A live-file-system, i.e. you can run the OS from CD without installing it to your harddisk - not very complete, but nice for testing. > Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. Greetings Uli. > > -- > > Very Respectfully, > > IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR > Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC > Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) > email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) > phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) > phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) > E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) > > Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) > NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil > NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil > NRO: teners@nro.mil > TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | Wuppertal | Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 17:52:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C11106568A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F538FC31 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so62071qyk.19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:52:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=HN5oowlKH+LB+DF7G8IwPvcxF+ztF2MkC5zEOPmFyew=; b=bWIp/F4GLNfopl5iW1Io1+UF/8/g1Z18BLKM3IZRDHCBSWNMI0caxQZZmiH/JHuWjI Ihd8qcncQxgcNJeW8EdNz7d6srwPadejNmeU5sCHjklVz2wIEw0UJSmxp8tflo6YglyS Mmg6cq9Mc6DbFhL0UoL2RmPdXBcJfnCwPjSok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=qtU5G7SHl7pY4xGys2jPLkibZp1HB5OHTxX+XMhmlMiWCZiyE8krR/OWGRfi9Zc4Sn tLg6wytZY6SWKpDhqUkKYx+E4YsSGWEMGBNTgU9OktM5tfJmasV+mlcH5iXczxEx9j6X tFE/ZEOTFDhKqo5L8LSXCw5EWKSghwMZBzhzI= Received: by 10.229.81.140 with SMTP id x12mr338020qck.35.1233249975703; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm8400ywf.53.2009.01.29.09.26.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:26:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:26:43 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" Message-ID: <20090129172643.GB5233@orion> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:52:07 -0000 IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR said: > > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso Contains just enough to get the installer running. This is a network install disc. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso This is the required disc to get a base install w/o installing over the/a network. This disc does contain the docs. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso These contain packages that you can usually add using pkg_add. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso Self explanatory. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso IIRC, a conglomeration of discs 1 through 3. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso This is not a live cd. I've never used it, so I don't know what it *does*. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 18:36:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0531065673 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22078FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF694AFBCCB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:36:18 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:36:18 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4981DACA.90900@ispro.net> <20090129182006.F32595@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4981E7FE.2010100@ispro.net> In-Reply-To: <4981E7FE.2010100@ispro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901290936.18670.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Evren Yurtesen , Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: Zend Optimizer support for FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:36:20 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:31:42 Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > another "professional" company that can't take 10 minutes to recompile. > > funny ;) It might not be that easy. For a 'cross-platform scripting language', you program for the largest common denominator and dive into specifics for exceptions and where interfaces are broken/very badly performing. For an "optimizer", aimed at improving performance, you dive into the nitty gritty of the OS to use the fastest working solution. So it may not be "just recompiling". > I already replied and mentioned that it is ironic since the official > php.net site is even using FreeBSD :) > > I also reminded that FreeBSD is NOT a yet another Linux distribution. I > think he didnt even know what is FreeBSD. Weird eh? Poor you. Asking the sales department technical questions ;) > Plus, ionCube already provided FreeBSD 7 64bit binaries... Probably we > should all switch to ionCube heh :) And also www/eaccelerator in ports. > > > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > >> I got this sort of e-mail from Zend, besides using compat_6 what can > >> we do as FreeBSD users? > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Zend Optimizer > >> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:51:10 +0200 > >> From: Howard Clayman > >> To: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Evren, > >> > >> It doesn?t look like we are going to support FreeBSD 7 on the Optimzier. > >> I recommend you start using another Linux distribution if you want to > >> use the Zend Optimizer. > >> > >> Tnanks and regards, > >> > >> Howard Clayman > >> > >> > >> > >> Howard Clayman > >> Sales Manager International Markets > >> howard@zend.com > >> t. +972.3.753.9525 / Skype: howardzend > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Zend Sales [mailto:sales@zend.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:26 AM > >> To: Howard Clayman > >> Subject: Sales Contact Form > >> > >> > >> Input received: > >> > >> Email: yurtesen@ispro.net > >> FirstName: Evren > >> LastName: Yurtesen > >> Company: ispronet internet services--TR > >> Country: TR > >> State: XX > >> Title: > >> Phone: 358.405073940 > >> Street: 18 Sokak No:12 > >> City: Izmir > >> Comments: Hello, > >> > >> Can you please let us know when will you make Zend Optimizer for FreeBSD > >> 7.x available for download? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Evren > >> Username: > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 18:46:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07BB106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A87C8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so42012mue.3 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:44:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=naAqGEACog2C2YdL42WFAXjfUuscXdCh6LGwQChr8LM=; b=OKbNCR8yvzHnxe2hRBFeWYFE7qK2t1KNOGoRrPsE3RaNPGHkdobqVI56uLiviLFhIY u+rfK67h2me4vWcX7AuNLyyAQEiBwRXOQ/e/WSzAqXYol/jYVVom3B26pOUZOlmrU9gP 6hb8GPxJGK2GW0xD2ojElhsxVUJdBVoRjYmOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RZeiUxLEPwTx5QCub5pcO5zfapE55FZHMl5FacGnGbKZk6yHVOuiiEGeih7aqoNt6D UPC5Eo6Jm/Ic8sVs+n1EXrQn5J7uvX56klgYxqKkTo7TV3iF/XOzBEJrQ5jRR7vQ03qd iyEYmEj6LNZRomfZmAB+j9VlSOTZUKEyzQZNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.147.3 with SMTP id z3mr121813bkn.17.1233254684474; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:44:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090129073647.c34e36dc.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> <20090128175705.3677bafb.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <560f92640901281511m55e3adc8l75d2b28b381920c8@mail.gmail.com> <20090129073647.c34e36dc.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:44:44 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92640901291044t6f6486bfnca8fda41e3d94d1c@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Bill Moran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security holes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:46:53 -0000 When and if I upgrade, I will be doing it by compiling the system from source (buildworld or what it's called) according to: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html For the installworld and mergemaster steps, it's strongly recommended to drop into single user mode. However, since my server is in a data center, it's a bit of trouble to do so (requires the "boss" there to hook up some sort of keyboard-input over a web browser application). I'm wondering if for the upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1 it would be OK to NOT drop into single user mode during these steps. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Bill Moran wrote: > Nerius Landys wrote: >> >> > Ascertaining what security holes will affect your system is complicated. >> > If you have to ask this question, then I recommend that you apply all >> > security updates immediately and always assume that every vulnerability >> > is a potential problem for you. >> >> Because 7.0 updates will no longer be made about a month from now, I >> guess this means that I should upgrade to 7.1? > > That would be my opinion. The good news is that you have a month to > plan and schedule the upgrade, and the change from 7.0 to 7.1 is pretty > minor. I upgraded 3 systems with no manual intervention aside from > mergemaster. > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 18:52:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43604106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126068FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E51CEBC0A; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:52:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:52:33 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Nerius Landys Message-Id: <20090129135233.d3bc04d3.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640901291044t6f6486bfnca8fda41e3d94d1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640901281416m784f85c4h9014c5e834980893@mail.gmail.com> <20090128175705.3677bafb.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <560f92640901281511m55e3adc8l75d2b28b381920c8@mail.gmail.com> <20090129073647.c34e36dc.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <560f92640901291044t6f6486bfnca8fda41e3d94d1c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security holes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:52:35 -0000 In response to Nerius Landys : > When and if I upgrade, I will be doing it by compiling the system from > source (buildworld or what it's called) according to: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > For the installworld and mergemaster steps, it's strongly recommended > to drop into single user mode. However, since my server is in a data > center, it's a bit of trouble to do so (requires the "boss" there to > hook up some sort of keyboard-input over a web browser application). > I'm wondering if for the upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1 it would be OK to NOT > drop into single user mode during these steps. You've got to make that call for yourself, but it's the reason serial console and 1000 different brands of "lights out management" addon cards exist. Personally, I haven't done the "drop to single user mode" thing in a long time and I've never had problems. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 19:21:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794C7106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) Received: from worldmax.nl (mail.worldmax.nl [81.28.80.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABE08FC23 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.3959 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: normal Priority: normal Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:21:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs duringmountcritremote execution Thread-Index: AcmB9qVh7HPEaN14Tdat/BTlvsm3WgAT5GvA References: From: "Arjan van der Oest" To: Subject: RE: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs duringmountcritremote execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:21:15 -0000 To make it even stranger, a new fresh installed box has no problems with = this configuration. The difference between these two : on the problem = box I enabled NFS client during installation with sysinstall, on the = working box I've just added the nfs_client_enable=3D"YES" flag manually = to rc.conf. I would suspect that the sysinstall approach would do the same (as it = looks like it) but now I suspect sysinstall does something else too that = breaks the config. --=20 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, Worldmax Operations B.V. =20 Arjan van der Oest Network Design Engineer =20 T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 =20 E.: arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl W.:www.worldmax.nl W.:www.aerea.nl GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: 2E9F = 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arjan van der = Oest Sent: donderdag 29 januari 2009 10:48 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs = duringmountcritremote execution Hi, I=E2=80=99m puzzled and either I don=E2=80=99t understand the boot rc.d = process or there is something wrong with it =E2=98=BA I have this 7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64 machine compiled with a GENERIC kernel, = so NFS support is baked right into the kernel by default. In fsstab I = have this entry: :/data/nfs-shares/S1018SR18 /nfs-mounts/backupsrv = nfs rw 0 0 Further, as per the handbook, I=E2=80=99ve set nfs_client_enable to = =E2=80=9CYES=E2=80=9D in the rc.conf. During boottime the machine hangs = on the console after stating =E2=80=9CMounting NFS = filesystems:=E2=80=9D. I notice that _immediately_ after that line there = is a console message saying =E2=80=9Cem0: link state changed to = UP=E2=80=9D. Then the system repeats this line until eternity (well, the = max I=E2=80=99ve been waiting has been 30 minutes), no . appears = indicating the system has not yet completed the 'mount -a 't nfs' = command from the mountcritremote script. [udp] :/data/nfs-shares/S1018SR18: RPGPROC_MNT: RPC: = Timed out Hitting CTRL-C forces the machine to continue the boot process, aborting = the mountcritremote script. What strikes me is that the actual NFS share = has been mounted, although the boot-process seems to indicate = otherwise... After doing a umount and mount =E2=80=93a =E2=80=93t nfs = again the machine has no problem whatsoever. Something else that puzzles me, when I set the = nfs_client_enable=3D=E2=80=9DNO=E2=80=9D line in the rc.conf, the same = happens : console hangs on the mountcritremote script until I hit CTRL-C = and after that the share has been mounted anyway? Shouldn=E2=80=99t the = machine ignore nfs filesystems with this rc.conf config?=20 I=E2=80=99ve removed the entry in fstab and set a line in rc.local and = then the boot-process works fine without interruption.=20 So I'm currently lost with these questions: - why does the system tries to mount the nfs filesystem from the fstab = while nfs_client_enable has been set to no in rc.conf? - why does the system seems to hang on the mountcritremote script = although there seems no valid reason for that. I can imagine the network = has not been fully configured yet when executing (indicated by the link = UP message right after the mouning NFS filesystems line) but why will = the script not continue after a few timeouts? And more bizarre: when = interrupting the mountcritremote script the share has been actually = mounted, so it seems the 'mount -a -t nfs' command has actually been = executed successfully. Any fingerpoints? --=20 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, Worldmax Operations B.V. =20 Arjan van der Oest Network Design Engineer T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 =20 GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78, fingerprint: 2E9F = 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78) No virus found in this incoming message. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 19:41:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112EC106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from smtpserver.misty.com (chloe.misty.com [198.137.254.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE7F8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from [70.7.65.193] (70-7-65-193.pools.spcsdns.net [70.7.65.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver.misty.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0TJfkZR014187; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:41:48 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:41:44 -0800 From: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa Message-ID: Thread-Topic: ISOs Thread-Index: AcmCSZ1MQtPZqGEkgke5YbTQXI4POw== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:41:52 -0000 Mr. Kruppa: Indeed there seems to be a discrepancy between your comments (that the DVD is inclusive of the documentation) and Mr. Barber, who indicated in his email to me that the DVD is NOT inclusive of the documentation (only the three CDs, I did not include his email but can if you wish to see it). Can you or he clarify this? V/R, Stuart On 1/29/09 9:34 AM, "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: > >> Dear Sir or Ma'am: >> >> I have tried to search Google and that, but probably am not using the >> right conglomerate of keywords to find what I want to know, so I am resigned >> to asking you. >> >> I recently noticed that there are quite a number of DVDs and CD-ROMs out >> for FreeBSD, and I'd like to give it a try. So I downloaded the amd64-all >> torrent, but I fear I likely have more ISOs than I need. >> >> Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? >> >> What are all the other ISOs? >> >> I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I am >> asking. >> >> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso > This is only a very minimalistic Operating System/Installation > CD, nearly everything has to be downloaded from the internet. > You should know what you do, when you use this. > >> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso >> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso >> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso >> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso > These are the release CD's. You will need at least disc1. The > others contain collections of useful software and information. > >> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso > Contains the stuff of the four CD's > >> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso > A live-file-system, i.e. you can run the OS from CD without > installing it to your harddisk - not very complete, but nice for > testing. > >> Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. > > Greetings > > Uli. >> >> -- >> >> Very Respectfully, >> >> IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR >> Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC >> Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) >> email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) >> phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) >> phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) >> E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) >> >> Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) >> NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil >> NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil >> NRO: teners@nro.mil >> TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) >> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is >> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential >> and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. >> Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If >> you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply >> e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa > | Wuppertal > | Germany -- Very Respectfully, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil NRO: teners@nro.mil TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 19:46:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC3B106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090A8FC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so62640fga.35 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:46:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nyHtgygaByRa/hi73OwmiwJfrIZTsDP/hD5ic8pWoO4=; b=OQ4f0/B/SrCVKVu+mh8ktF1E5H1PrUomTlJlTOvq+Qqk2zOCzIOSFhKqOfhvM7fI6z IRL1NnI8bhKwymYSsCGHNVCvc8/SHEaMP0kzjwqEeLsYwtOiDwnsN/v5nNMxLN7BA2yM zjE8pFbzY3DLlZZnZemoKvE/TqcF/JPkimUKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZDkBBLrlwqHL1clgMwUh3qXBy8aZBzMXV9eZ4ZmNuc5jUu77QDvFSbWWi6L4aEfl0P TXOFjtnnCUbexPadZPMP5ElGqs4v1xaxKHQC93l1JJCwrPx8CasOgZpWYot96NW1tjFv XTGrxwzTI2Ap1gSLFP2oMzKXI7aX6Ffo9H5GI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.139 with SMTP id t11mr433235fao.11.1233258375055; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:46:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:46:14 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310901291146r50b7b360hb74e9d6538490560@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Ulrich Kruppa , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:46:16 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: > DVD is inclusive of the documentation) and Mr. Barber, who indicated in his > email to me that the DVD is NOT inclusive of the documentation (only the > three CDs, I did not include his email but can if you wish to see it). I had stated that the DVD contains discs 1 through 3, and previously stated disc1 contains the docs. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 19:48:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503F61065701 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from bombadil.ibest.com.br (bombadil.ibest.com.br [200.140.126.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CF58FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp1.brturbo.com.br (smtp1.brte.com.br [200.199.201.162]) by bombadil.ibest.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60F4B64C3 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:14:20 -0300 (BRT) Received: from mailapp01.brturbo.com (unknown [10.160.120.196]) by smtp1.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EF2340D; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:29:38 -0200 (BRST) Received: from mailapp01.brturbo.com (mailapp01.brturbo.com [10.160.120.196]) by mailapp01.brturbo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9135F402F; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:35:25 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <6693682.1233250525913.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:35:25 -0300 (ART) From: Mario Lobo To: teners@bh90210.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_4416_365749.1233250525912" SDL_HA: false X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:48:59 -0000 ------=_Part_4416_365749.1233250525912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" -----Mensagem original----- De: IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR Enviada em: 29/01/2009 13:50:32 Para: Assunto: ISOs Dear Sir or Ma'am: I have tried to search Google and that, but probably am not using t= he right conglomerate of keywords to find what I want to know, so I am= resigned to asking you. I recently noticed that there are quite a number of DVDs and CD-ROM= s out for FreeBSD, and I'd like to give it a try. So I downloaded the amd= 64-all torrent, but I fear I likely have more ISOs than I need. Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? What are all the other ISOs? I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I a= m asking. 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. --=20 Very Respectfully, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, = DC Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Perm= it (MROP) email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile pho= ne) phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil NRO: teners@nro.mil TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments,= is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confi= dential and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED = level. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibi= ted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by re= ply e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. Hi there Stuart; Here are the basic descriptions; 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso - Very small iso. Just enough to boot FBSD but no enough for repairs on= a damaged install. 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso All of the above are CDROM isos. #1 is the install CD and the o= thers are the packages spreaded. 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso - all of the 4 above in 1 DVD. No need to switch discs during the= install. 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso - This is the CD required for a fixit session. In my opinion, I=B4d grab the 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso. Install the = minimum needed for network to work and the ports, then install all the pack= ages you need from the ports. I hope this helps. Best wishes,= Mario Lobo ______________= _________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@fre= ebsd.org" =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 ------=_Part_4416_365749.1233250525912-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 19:53:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F277C106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from smtpserver.misty.com (chloe.misty.com [198.137.254.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8B88FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from [70.7.65.193] (70-7-65-193.pools.spcsdns.net [70.7.65.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver.misty.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0TJrI8E014388; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:53:20 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:53:17 -0800 From: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" To: Glen Barber Message-ID: Thread-Topic: ISOs Thread-Index: AcmCSzpbtg4NRKF/YUC8MFr83y6kpQ== In-Reply-To: <4ad871310901291146r50b7b360hb74e9d6538490560@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Ulrich Kruppa , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:53:24 -0000 Mr. Barber: AH! In that case I stand corrected sir. In fact after reviewing your email again, I took careful notice that you said exactly that. My apologies for not having read it more carefully. V/R, Stuart On 1/29/09 11:46 AM, "Glen Barber" wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR > wrote: >> DVD is inclusive of the documentation) and Mr. Barber, who indicated in his >> email to me that the DVD is NOT inclusive of the documentation (only the >> three CDs, I did not include his email but can if you wish to see it). > > I had stated that the DVD contains discs 1 through 3, and previously > stated disc1 contains the docs. -- Very Respectfully, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil NRO: teners@nro.mil TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 20:03:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C31106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473768FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0TK36bf033013; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:03:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0TK36Tr033010; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:03:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:03:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090129210249.Y32916@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:03:29 -0000 > > Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? check it. you may use tar tf to list contents > > What are all the other ISOs? > > I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I am > asking. > > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso > > Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. > > > -- > > Very Respectfully, > > IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR > Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC > Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) > email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) > phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) > phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) > E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) > > Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) > NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil > NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil > NRO: teners@nro.mil > TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 20:03:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38C710656CA for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail48.e.nsc.no (mail48.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151FB8FC21 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [62.16.180.74] (062016180074.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.180.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail48.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id n0TK3ke4002085 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:03:47 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <4982196B.9010308@next.online.no> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:02:35 +0000 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Excessive letter-spacing in firefox3 under wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:03:50 -0000 Subject line says it all - large gaps between all letters. Here is a screenshot: http://softblur.com/misc/spacing.jpg. I suppose there are others who run firefox3 under wine on 7.1-RELEASE with no problems, so can anyone think of what's wrong? I have imported fonts from my Windows 2000 installation, and I am using the same profile that works well with native FreeBSD firefox and firefox on Windows 2000. I believe this did not happen with firefox2. Grateful for any hint. (Actually, I only use wine in order to get flash9, so if anyone could help me solve this problem instead, that's even better. I have tried the available recipes with no success - my firefox3 just freezes.) -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 21:38:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67681065675 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764FE8FC0C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so70013ywe.13 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:38:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=39r3Muncqbt8C5iyp0hSiXkrEWQo7fdYJ4yPXo3dWfQ=; b=idSjLyt3eQYw972Y4SLTUuFttnVarJaVhDFl97b65/VoEt0UD4xOReswZNCgOPtTyq A0vxcFmlcB5Z1RRd1VAfgQ51kzQZag/MfCH7vNzIkHo6LZNTtiyHRCPAYSWwzxq/eTD2 ddk2MkeTbrStIVt6JxZ3ZceI/jzMkGZHQ7FWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b8a04JvXMJGIHcZt45jd1P4D7QAUNe07X81ICQQ+CxB+gDGbV5r6yLXLpq+TAuNR7x ltKLHxBCGGFVgiH3wzUSa5hv1xXsJ6PnFoOE/qIE4s/Xe7CT1o9v5j2FVhBbBQZV1w+c f9UlZ3UkKvYPWpUnLlUt1wJid0hLuvKIzKzEU= Received: by 10.90.105.6 with SMTP id d6mr478625agc.78.1233263513905; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm520780agb.17.2009.01.29.13.11.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:11:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49821B95.7090708@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:11:49 -0600 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tore Lund References: <4982196B.9010308@next.online.no> In-Reply-To: <4982196B.9010308@next.online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Excessive letter-spacing in firefox3 under wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:38:45 -0000 Tore Lund wrote: > Subject line says it all - large gaps between all letters. Here is a > screenshot: http://softblur.com/misc/spacing.jpg. > > I suppose there are others who run firefox3 under wine on 7.1-RELEASE > with no problems, so can anyone think of what's wrong? I have imported > fonts from my Windows 2000 installation, and I am using the same profile > that works well with native FreeBSD firefox and firefox on Windows 2000. > I believe this did not happen with firefox2. Grateful for any hint. > > (Actually, I only use wine in order to get flash9, so if anyone could > help me solve this problem instead, that's even better. I have tried > the available recipes with no success - my firefox3 just freezes.) > The rendering stuff is due to the font wine/firefox is using. I do have ff3 running with similar issues, but I'm sure there's some sort of documentation available to fix it. You're going to want an anti-aliased font, and probably an MS one for greatest compatibility. I've also got flash 10 installed on it and the video is terrible. Hopefully flash 9 works better for you. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 21:50:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA1F106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C138FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0TLVDk0084518 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0TLVD5h084517 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich) Resent-Message-Id: <200901292131.n0TLVD5h084517@pencil.math.missouri.edu> Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.200]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0T5BtSd071567 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:11:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org) Received: by math.missouri.edu (Postfix) id 3855E610D63; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:11:55 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: rich@math.missouri.edu Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by math.missouri.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E5C610CA6 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:11:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2C314D9FB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C161065672; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3E7106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795198FC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0T4hn4p071241 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:43:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0T4hnrE071240 for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:43:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:43:49 -0600 From: Rich Winkel To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090129044349.GA70969@pencil.math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8920/Thu Jan 29 12:30:26 2009 on pencil.math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8916/Wed Jan 28 19:09:24 2009 on pencil.math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8916/Wed Jan 28 19:09:24 2009 on pencil.math.missouri.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8916/Wed Jan 28 19:09:24 2009 on math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=3.0 tests=AWL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on math.missouri.edu Resent-From: rich@math.missouri.edu Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0600 Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: console-kit-daemon: CRITICAL: cannot initialize libpolkit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:50:57 -0000 Does this error sound familiar? It has me stumped. dbus is running with no apparent errors, but hald refuses to stay alive. Running it in verbose mode gives: hald[3242]: 22:22:11.734 [E] ck-tracker.c:371: Error doing GetSeats on ConsoleKit: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 0 hald[3242]: 22:22:11.734 [E] ck-tracker.c:812: Could not get seats and sessions hald[3242]: 22:22:11.734 [W] hald_dbus.c:5806: Could not initialize seats and sessions from ConsoleKit ??? Thanks, Rich _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 22:08:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EBD106566B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCA38FC16 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8367AFBCCB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:08:47 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:08:47 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901291308.47418.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Arjan van der Oest Subject: Re: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs during mountcritremote execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:08:48 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009 00:47:49 Arjan van der Oest wrote: > Hi, > > I=E2=80=99m puzzled and either I don=E2=80=99t understand the boot rc.d p= rocess or there is > something wrong with it =E2=98=BA > > I have this 7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64 machine compiled with a GENERIC kernel, = so > NFS support is baked right into the kernel by default. In fsstab I have > this entry: > > :/data/nfs-shares/S1018SR18 /nfs-mounts/backupsrv = =20 > nfs rw 0 0 > > - why does the system tries to mount the nfs filesystem from the fstab > while nfs_client_enable has been set to no in rc.conf? Because there is no relation between the two. You could be using a 3rd part= y=20 nfs kernel module. > - why does the=20 > system seems to hang on the mountcritremote script although there seems no > valid reason for that. I can imagine the network has not been fully > configured yet when executing (indicated by the link UP message right aft= er > the mouning NFS filesystems line) but why will the script not continue > after a few timeouts? Because you are not aware of the following mount_nfs flags, you can put=20 in /etc/fstab: -b If an initial attempt to contact the server fails, fork off a child to keep trying the mount in the background. Useful for fstab(5), where the file system mount is not critical to multi- user operation. -R Set the mount retry count to the specified value. The default= is a retry count of zero, which means to keep retrying forever. There is a 60 second delay between each attempt. -i Make the mount interruptible, which implies that file system calls that are delayed due to an unresponsive server will fail with EINTR when a termination signal is posted for the process. -s A soft mount, which implies that file system calls will fail after retrycnt round trip timeout intervals. > And more bizarre: when interrupting the=20 > mountcritremote script the share has been actually mounted, so it seems t= he > 'mount -a -t nfs' command has actually been executed successfully. Looks more like the server is not sending a "success" message or it got los= t=20 in transit. If this is 100% reproducable, look into compatibility issues, b= y=20 scaling down the NFS version for the mount and check firewall rules on both= =20 ends. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 22:14:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F35106566C for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: from web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A62358FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80395 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jan 2009 21:48:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=MaXUSxSlGzGmdH5vpe91tbJr5mVArtC2ath19a2CAB7xkoi9mHYeMJjwLVYEmJLgwDFUh8z5buI4xu/MkEStCFWFZzETq20fDi0Vzs7Z7wgGDnl54oXkgBm/CE2uGA9LARvfcz4mLP6W3RiPS01WfXcs47ow01du873HNrOyYh8=; X-YMail-OSG: 66TYFxMVM1kCpbil7coXEw1hgOwCRjsjnzhgTQ.0_RRd8pHtDtYUCJcKzABdWeLCM_uavxYXviAWBr13QKuUK86GAT7B11rQPtoJLW9ghQtW8L45iNe8jpWXdho_FTrRb22GC9oqxdykvScrYcgmxEuTMURNddMBJsXwgRiRtRZXWWZSnQMqpVAKqOs- Received: from [4.71.142.195] by web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:48:03 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:48:03 -0800 (PST) From: joe park To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <745210.79886.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: ssh login problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:14:44 -0000 Hello, I'm guessing it's not exactly FreeBSD specific problem but here it goes... I have machine A and B, both FreeBSD 7.0 release machines. I have a cron job that sends some files from A to B every 30 min via rsync / ssh. About 3-4 times a month, sshd on machine B stops responding and the script just waits forever for it. When it happens, I tried to ssh into machine B and I don't even get username/password prompt. I can ssh into machine A fine, I can ping machine B from A fine, and it looks like ssh connection is made: $ ssh -vvv user2@192.168.1.2 OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.2 [192.168.1.2] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 It just waits infinitely at this point. There is no other way to access and troubleshoot the machine B remotely (telnet is not enabled) and only thing I can do is call and ask for hard reset. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks, joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 22:28:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFBB1065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lawrence.auster@att.net) Received: from fed1rmmtai112.cox.net (fed1rmmtai112.cox.net [68.230.241.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5CB8FC18 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lawrence.auster@att.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090129220514.RWUZ12838.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:05:14 -0500 Received: from ihkmn ([68.7.178.36]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 9a591b00D0nWD4403a5Apy; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:05:13 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fTpmd6j1VbsA:10 a=Ijf4uibmdlYA:10 a=8da1oD9WnRMA:10 a=6eRGdbthAAAA:8 a=nKDLJjefMrHCVW1xqdIA:9 a=F0ta1PNHEV0TM_cU4loA:7 a=JfaWgUyT9WyKE0hanbBKr5di8GMA:4 a=6gryP8oqIuwA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=sh6PArqQtYdngLzxv5aEQJAsMbE=:19 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Lawrence Auster" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:05:05 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <20090129220514.RWUZ12838.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> Subject: The =?iso-8859-1?q?=93Military=2C?= Industrial =?iso-8859-1?q?Complex=94?= is no more -- The Hidden Massive Racial Discrimination in America against Whites X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lawrence.auster@att.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:28:47 -0000 The “Military, Industrial Complex” is no more. Today it is the Political, Financial and Media — Zionist Complex! 1/28/2009 An short essay by Dr. David Duke The “Military-Industrial complex” really has no relevance to the real holders of global power today. America is the most powerful military and economic nation on earth. The powers that control the levers of political power in America possess the greatest power the world has ever seen. Who really has power over the government today? Is it the fabled “Military, Industrial Complex”? An effective gauge of direct political power in America is “to discover who provided the pivotal amounts of the billion-dollar recent campaigns for U.S. President. You can look directly at campaign contributions for every candidate from the Federal Election Commission in order to find out who holds the real power in politics. So, who holds the real power over the American political establishment? Let’s first look at who does not hold much power over the establishment. 1) It is not the military. There is not any organized military monetary influence or even significant political influence of the military over the politicians. In fact, no one in military positions of authority are allowed to openly get involved in politics. No active sergeant, lieutenant, or General can send out a directive to the men under him to support or oppose a particular candidate (the one exception I know to that was when the Louisiana commanding general of the National Guard, under Jewish influence, sent a letter to all national guardsmen telling them that it was their “patriotic duty” to vote against David Duke and for the Liberal corrupt former Governor, Edwin Edwards. Even that caused a scandal in military circles, as it should have. 2) It is NOT major manufacturing or even the huge oil companies. There was not one oil company and only a couple of legitimate manufacturing or industrial concerns on Obama and McCain’s top twenty contributor list. The list was completely dominated by Zionist international banking firms. If one combines every defense contractor’s contributions the money they give in politics is minuscule compared to Zionist international banks. They don’t even come close to the power in lobbying that AIPAC and a couple of dozen more Jewish extremist organizations have. Jewish lobbyists literally get almost unanimous support in Congress for outrageous giveaways to Israel, a nation that has committed terrorism against us and killed or maimed scores of Americans. I am not talking about contracts here, I am speaking about giving away billions of dollars to a foreign nation. So, so much for the media-popularized term, the military-industrial complex In direct political money and lobbying then, Zionists are the undisputed masters of the American political establishment. In addition to their control through the use of money as an inducement or a threat, they have tens of thousands of Jewish extremists scattered throughout the entire bureaucracy who are very conscious of supporting their brethren and supporting the organized Jewish agenda. They also are ready to act against any Gentile who dares to go against Israel or the Jewish agenda. How will a Jewish federal judge rule in a huge litigation issue between Jewish and non-Jewish parties? Why was the biggest robber in the history of the world, Bernie Madoff who stole over 50 billion dollars and who ruined tens of thousands of families, only charged with one criminal count, and allowed to stay in his luxury apartment to await trial? Is there an organized Jewish agenda? Absolutely. In fact, the leading and most powerful Jewish groups have a supra-organization called the Council of Presidents (composed of the most powerful 5 dozen Jewish organizations in America). They issue detailed positions not just on Mideast policy but on many other issues that have nothing to do with Israel, aspects of domestic policy including issues such as opening America’s borders. They even assume positions on issues that you wouldn’t even think would have unanimity among Jews, such as abortion rights. Their job is to make sure that Jewish power is absolutely united on what they decide are their common agendas. Next, we must talk about one of the most influential parts of the American political process, the mass media. The media, such as the NY Times and the Washington Post (the newspaper read by every member of America’s government and bureaucracy in Washington). The Washington Post can determine even what issues Congress will discuss and it greatly affects the publicity for or against those issues. Broadcast and cable television also have an enormous impact, and we can include movies, books, magazines and the newspaper chains that reach down into almost every American community. As my chapters in Jewish Supremacism on “Jewish Media Supremacy” document, the ownership, depth and breadth of Jewish influence in the media is simply breathtaking. In media, whether you speak of owners, administrators, managers, editors, producers, writers, correspondents, pundits and reporters, there is an army of Jews who are animated by the Holocaust and the issues of the organized Jewish community. If you haven’t yet read them, you simply must see the evidence on the Jewish supremacy in media I have compiled in my books Jewish Supremacism and My Awakening. The other great seat of establishment power is simply money, huge sums of money and the willingness to use those funds on behalf of an agenda. The biggest concentrations of wealth in the world today are in the Zionist international banks, and in financial groups that the Jews completely control such as the Federal Reserve Corporation, the same forces that have led us to the doorstep of a great depression. It is no accident that Alan Greenspan and Ben Shalom Bernanke are the last two of the Federal Reserve czars. Even in days of World War I, an immensely rich, Jewish international banker, Jacob Schiff, voiced pride in the fact that he was instrumental in weakening Czarist Russia (the government that Jews universally hated), and that he supported Russia’s enemies so as to make Russia ripe for communist overthrow (Jewish groups brag of his help to Japan in the Russo-Japanese War so as to hurt the Russian government). Schiff also gave millions of dollars to directly finance the Jews who led and organized the Russian revolution and the Bolshevik terror in Russia. There is no disputing of these facts. Plenty of Jewish history books detail all of it. So, frankly, financial power in the control of people who will use it for an agenda is also a key ingredient of real power. Again, the financial power in the hands of modern day Jacob Schiff’s, is an incredibly powerful weapon. So forget about the “Military-Industrial Complex.” That is passe. In today’s world it makes more sense to speak about the “Political, Financial and Media Zionist complex.” That is the real core of power that bends everything whether it be local laws, or giant corporations, to its will. Even if one of the world’s richest firms, such as Microsoft (which is now by the way run by a Jewish extremist), would buck the political, financial, and media Zionist complex, it would be broken by government fiat, the Jewish-influenced courts (such as anti-trust actions), and by vicious attacks by the Jewish-influenced media. Microsoft would either be dismembered or destroyed. Such are the realities of the modern world. There is no longer a “military industrial complex,” but there is a Political and media and financial Zionist complex that rules us and aims to control the whole world. No single part of this behemoth can be defeated, because it can use its other assets to defend the section under attack. It can only be brought down by concentrating all our political and ideological fire right on the core the problem, International Zionism and its driving impetus: Jewish Supremacism. —Dr. David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/forget-the-military-industrial-complex-today-its-the-political-financial-and-media-zionist-complex_7394.html ---- The Hidden Massive Racial Discrimination in America against Whites 1/29/2009 The main argument for affirmative action is that institutions should reflect racial percentages of population, if not there must be de facto racial discrimination. Here is the breakdown of students by race at America’s premier university, Obama’s alma mater, Harvard. Even though non-Jewish White Americans are almost 70 percent of the population and on average score much higher on entrance exams, they are only about 22 percent of the Harvard student body. So what race is really the victim of racial discrimination? For those who are truly dedicated to stopping racial discrimination, what are you going to do about this massive discrimination, or does it not matter to you because White people happen to be the victims? The hidden, massive racial discrimination that goes on in America against White people! A U.S. Government study offers proof that European Americans face massive institutional racial discrimination that affects millions of the most talented and educated of our people Introduction by Dr. David Duke – As most of you know, the term “white supremacist” has become literally a prefix of my name when I am in the news. It is the media’s way to condition readers not to pay attention to what I say because I am a “white supremacist.” The truth is I am not a White supremacist, and I seek no supremacy or control over any people, but I do demand that the rights of people of European descent to be respected as much as any other people’s rights. The fact is that in the United States of America, Canada, the UK in many areas of Europe Whites face a powerful state-sanctioned, and often mandated, racial discrimination against White people who are better-qualified than their non-White counterparts. It may be surprising to some reading this, but millions of discriminated against Whites are often poorer and who face more difficult social situations than many of their non-White counterparts who are being given preference over them. It also affects the most talented of our people. Many Whites are under the mistaken impression that the White victims of racial discrimination are mostly from the low income and low IQ sectors of the population. Nothing could be further from the truth. In actuality, the percentages of Whites who are victims of racial discrimination are much higher in the sectors of the White population with the highest intelligence and greatest abilities. The facts are shocking, but true. Most people know that most universities have programs of admittance that give less-qualified minorities preference over better-qualified Whites. Almost all of the Fortune 500 largest corporations have affirmative action and diversity programs that discriminate against White people, both male and female, in hiring. They also have programs of discrimination that favor non-Whites in promotions and advancement. This is true in the academic area as well. You can look at almost any academic department of any American university and you will see in place a strong racial bias for “minorities” in preface over Whites in hiring and advancement. Whether you are talking about a university History, English or Math department in almost any university these policies are in place and powerful. These racial discriminatory policies are real, and they can be easily proven to exist. But, now we thanks to a government study, there is even a more powerful way to show their real impact on tens of mi llions of White Americans. The brilliant economist and author whose pen name is Yggdrasil has compiled the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth (NLSY) 1979, which was a massive study conducted by the Department of Labor to track the lives of 155,000 Americans by race, IQ, income, education and other factors to see how remedial efforts for minorities were doing. It was done after the installation of so called “affirmative action” programs which gave preference to non-White groups over whites. The NLSY study is meant to follow this huge sampling for their entire lives to see how diversity is working out for America. The data is from this ongoing study is tangible proof of the horrendous level of racial discrimination going on against White people. I will link you to Yggdrasil’s fine paper in a moment, but let me first give you a couple of snippets from his work that proves the existence of massive racial discrimination going on against our people. Here is a chart showing the ethnic breakdown of the most prestigious university in the United States of America: Harvard. America’s premier university is extremely expensive (unless you receive special grants and scholarships) and a degree from it just about guarantees its graduates the best paid and prestigious jobs America has to offer. Affirmative action advocates have long said the companies or institutions that don’t reflect the actual racial population percentages are de facto racist and discriminatory. So what is the situation at Harvard, non-Jewish Whites who are about 70 pecent of the American population are only about 22 percent of the Harvard student body. One should first consider the fact that Whites are represented in the top two percentile level on college admission tests on an average that is a 5 times higher rate than non-White groups. If one then factors in the fact that Whites are also 70 percent of the population, there should be at least 25 times more Whites who would be better qualified than the non-White students currently at Harvard. But even though these Whites are the best and brightest America has to offer they are limited to only 20 percent of Harvard students! Such is nothing more than blatant, racial discrimination. Another interesting fact one can gleam from this chart and many in the NLSY studies that Jewish over-representation is not based simply on the fact that Jews have a high intelligence, they often do twice as well as their intelligence bracket would indicate. Such would suggest the intra-tribal support system for group cohesion and advancements aids their success rate. The NLSY data also shows how incomes today in the USA correlate with race and intelligence. Let’s take a look NLSY tracking studies of intelligent White women, these are White women in the 90 to 97 percent IQ bracket as compared to Black women in that same high 90 to 97 percent IQ bracket. The average Black females of that IQ level earned an average of approximately $54,000 per year through 1996, whereas White females on the same IQ level earned only half of that amount, about $28,000 per year through 1996. When White women in the same intelligent bracket of Black women earn half of the average amount that the Black women do, that’s real racial discrimination. I am not referring here to a few White women who are at least equally qualified but getting half the salary that Black women do, I am talking about the average White women in America! The NLSY is a big enough sample that reflects the whole nation. In fact it is meant to. The average White woman of high intelligence earns one-half of what Black women do of the same intelligence! I obviously don’t like this racial discrimination against our people. Neither does the economist Yggdrasil. We advocate that the best person regardless of race gets whatever college admission or job or promotion their abilities dictate. We have no fear of how well our people will do on a fair playing field. Because we stand for true civil rights, human rights in the matter, we are called racists, and the real capper: “white supremacists.” There are many people in America and around the world who are ignorant of the facts of anti-White racial discrimination. The media acts like it doesn’t exist. Even after the election of an affirmative action African-American President, America is still painted as an anti-Black racist country. The truth is that European Americans are facing racial discrimination in the very institutions and nation that our forefathers created. Our movement is truly a liberation movement like any other in the world that strives for a people to free and live in society of our own values rather than oppressive society imposed upon us. We are not racists or supremacists trying to deny the rights of others. We are human rights activists defending our people’s rights and heritage. –Dr. David Duke Source & Charts : http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-real-racial-discrimination-that-goes-on-in-america_7407.html ----- Obama’s Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team George Mitchell is the new American envoy now in the Mideast. Who is Mitchell and who are the key players in Obama’s Mideast policy team? First, let’s examine the major players on the Obama foreign policy team. Roger Cohen writing in The New York Times on January 11, 2009 wrote some things that if he were a Gentile would have earned him some attacks as an “anti-Semite.” He pointed out the incredible top-heavy pro-Zionist content of the team which is supposed to broker a fair and just peace in the Mideast. In discussing the team he identified them with these words: They include Dennis Ross (the veteran Clinton administration Mideast peace envoy who may now extend his brief to Iran) [a long-time Jewish Zionist]; James Steinberg [Jewish Zionist] (as deputy secretary of state) ; Dan Kurtzer [Jewish Zionist] (the former U.S. ambassador to Israel); Dan Shapiro [Jewish Zionist] (a longtime aide to Obama); and Martin Indyk [Jewish Zionist] another former ambassador to Israel who is close to the incoming secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.) Now, I have nothing against smart, driven, liberal, Jewish (or half-Jewish) males; I’ve looked in the mirror. I know or have talked to all these guys, except Shapiro. They’re knowledgeable, broad-minded and determined. Still, on the diversity front they fall short. On the change-you-can-believe-in front, they also leave something to be desired. Cohen did not even mention that the two closest advisers to Obama, the guys that filter almost everything that Obama see and hears and makes the day to day decisions of running the oval office. They are David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel, two long time dedicated Jewish extremists. Emmanuel, son of an Irgun terrorist and named after another Irgun terrorist, even fought in the Israeli Army. Now we come to the new envoy to the Mideast, George Mitchell of Maine, the man who is supposed to be a broadminded and just arbitrator between Israel and the Palestinians. The Jewish-influenced has made a big point of Mitchell’s Lebanese ancestry. What the Zionist media doesn’t tell you is that he has been completely under the control of AIPAC and radical Zionists for years. As Senate Majority Leader he rammed through everything Israel wanted. He even supported the Senate resolution that gave Israel unconditional support during the Zionist massacre of thousands of Gaza civilians. In fact, originally an appointee to the Senate, Mitchell owes his entire Senate career on the massive support given him in 1982 and since by AIPAC and 27 other Jewish extremist controlled political action committees that AIPAC arranged. AIPAC’s Tom Dine summarized AIPAC’s success in Mitchell’s election by saying that “American Jews are thus able to form our own foreign policy agenda.” Of course, Dine spoke the complete and unvarnished truth. American and Israeli extremist Jews do indeed control the foreign policy of the United States. Such control has long gone on in concert with past U.S. Presidents and it goes on today with Obama. Only difference is that today there is a greater danger because many in America and around the world falsely believe that Obama represents change. With the incredible respect and adulation given to Obama, he is in a much better position to support the Zionist war agenda and ultimately do far more harm than a discredited George Bush. Hold on to your hats, America. I predict Obama will usher in war and conflagration that will make George Bush’s presidency seem mild in comparison. He has already announced a doubling of American troops in Afghanistan. Can a catastrophic war with Iran be far behind? Jewish extremists want this war and Obama is completely under their control! – Dr. David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/who-is-on-obamas-dream-team-for-mideast-peace_7380.html ------------------------------------- You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster Newletter. If you wish to unsubscribe from our mailing list, please let us know by calling "to 1 212 865 1284 Thanks, Lawrence Auster, 238 W 101 St Apt. 3B New York, NY 10025 Contact: lawrence.auster@att.net ------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 22:53:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFB0106564A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16CB8FC1B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDF3AFBCCB; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:47 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:47 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <745210.79886.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <745210.79886.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901291353.47467.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: joe park Subject: Re: ssh login problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:53:49 -0000 On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:48:03 joe park wrote: > $ ssh -vvv user2@192.168.1.2 > OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 > debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.2 [192.168.1.2] port 22. > debug1: Connection established. > debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/identity type -1 > debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 > debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 > > It just waits infinitely at this point. There is no other way to access > and troubleshoot the machine B remotely (telnet is not enabled) and only > thing I can do is call and ask for hard reset. I/O problems on B. Disk blocks all processes needing it. Console login would not work either. grep TIMEOUT /var/log/messages on B should provide some insight. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 00:30:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52286106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5788FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0U0Sq5e003728; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:28:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n0U0Spv1003727; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:28:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:28:51 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Mario Lobo Message-ID: <20090130002851.GE3458@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <6693682.1233250525913.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <6693682.1233250525913.JavaMail.nfsnobody@mailapp01.brturbo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org, teners@bh90210.net Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:30:34 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 02:35:25PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR > Enviada em: 29/01/2009 13:50:32 > Para: > Assunto: ISOs > Dear Sir or Ma'am: > I have tried to search Google and that, but probably am not using t he > right conglomerate of keywords to find what I want to know, so I am resigned > to asking you. > I recently noticed that there are quite a number of DVDs and CD-ROM= s > out > for FreeBSD, and I'd like to give it a try. So I downloaded the amd 64-all > torrent, but I fear I likely have more ISOs than I need. > Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? > What are all the other ISOs? > I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I a= m > asking. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso > Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. Basically, if you have a good enough internet connection (reliable, stays up) so you can do the bulk of the install over the network, then all you really need is the ...disc1.iso CD. If your net connection is unreliable, then you might wan disc2 and disc3. ////jerry > -- > Very Respectfully, > IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR > Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC > Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Perm it (MROP) > email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) > phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile pho ne) > phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) > E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) > Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) > NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil > NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil > NRO: teners@nro.mil > TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any > attachments,= is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confi dential > and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibi ted. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by re ply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. > Hi there Stuart; > Here are the basic descriptions; > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso > - Very small iso. Just enough to boot FBSD but no enough for repairs > on= a damaged install. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso > All of the above are CDROM isos. #1 is the install CD and the o= thers > are the packages spreaded. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso > - all of the 4 above in 1 DVD. No need to switch discs during the install. > 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso > - This is the CD required for a fixit session. > In my opinion, I´d grab the 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso. Install the > = minimum needed for network to work and the ports, then install all > the pack= ages you need from the ports. > I hope this helps. > Best wishes, Mario Lobo > ______________= _________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@fre ebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 00:59:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6F1106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6148FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=eN6JYn2Iwo1VjXwJgUQbfE1gIv+n0K2J0bYZA6hHY9GGxVOlhvpWpIQUFPFroS9S; h=Received:Cc:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [66.214.89.52] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LShjc-0006ue-7c; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:59:52 -0500 Message-Id: From: Arthur Barlow To: Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: <49811ED8.4060004@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--580563290 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:59:50 -0800 References: <73B48621-7F1F-443F-B811-0135B6FE64E3@earthlink.net> <49811ED8.4060004@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 0bd0885458bbffc5a6d650fed495db8b4d2b10475b57112016fda44e795f31c843b783d3c55ff19a7c856b8c48eb34e1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.214.89.52 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:59:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail-7--580563290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > Arthur Barlow wrote: >> Two days ago I checked to see what source code was out of date and I >> noticed that many xf86 and various xorg drivers were. Because the >> number was significant I used the "portupgrade -a" command to make >> sure >> all the dependencies were processed properly. As it turned out, >> there >> were still a couple of places were the process broke and I needed >> to do >> a "deinstall" and "reinstall" on a certain package(s) before I could >> continue. When the process was done I tried to run "startx", but I >> got >> an error. I ran just X without startx or xinit and I get the >> message: >> >> Fatal server error: >> Caught signal 11: Server aborting >> >> Abort trap: 6 >> >> I've tried to reinstall xorg, xorg-drivers, and a handful of other >> drivers, but no luck. I'm using FreeBSD 6.4, and the upgrade was for >> xorg-7.4. Any suggestions? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > What video driver are you using? Could you give us output of any logs > and config files? > > -- > Eitan Adler > "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually > behave." > -Jakob Nielsen I'm using the "glint" driver or xf86-video-glint. It's for the TI Premedia graphic chip. I''ve attached the Xorg.0.log file. --Apple-Mail-7--580563290 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Xorg.0.log Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="Xorg.0.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD dumb.dimensional.com 6.4-STABLE FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE #0: Thu Dec 4 08:09:38 PST 2008 root@dumb.dimensional.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 Build Date: 28 January 2009 07:46:25AM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Jan 29 10:14:44 2009 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) Including the default font path /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (II) Loader magic: 0x81c1b20 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 4.1 X.Org XInput driver : 2.1 X.Org Server Extension : 1.1 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6 (II) Loader running on freebsd (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) Texas Instruments TVP4020 [Permedia 2] rev 0, Mem @ 0xf4100000/0, 0xf5000000/0, 0xf4800000/0, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "freetype" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (==) AIGLX disabled (==) Exporting typical set of GLX visuals (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "xtrap" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libxtrap.so (II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1 (II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.6 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "glint" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//glint_drv.so (II) Module glint: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.2.2 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.4.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.3.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1 (II) GLINT: driver for 3Dlabs chipsets: gamma, gamma2, ti_pm2, ti_pm, r4, pm4, pm3, pm2v, pm2, pm, 300sx, 500tx, mx, delta (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0 (WW) Falling back to old probe method for glint (--) Chipset ti_pm2 found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [5] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [6] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [7] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [9] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [10] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (**) GLINT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) GLINT(0): RGB weight 888 (==) GLINT(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) GLINT(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (==) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor (--) GLINT(0): Not using Linux framebuffer device (--) GLINT(0): Chipset: "ti_pm2" (--) GLINT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF4800000 (--) GLINT(0): MMIO registers at 0xF4100000 (--) GLINT(0): VideoRAM: 8192 kByte (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (--) GLINT(0): FIFO Size is 256 DWORDS (==) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz (--) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 110 MHz (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Module "ddc" already built-in (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Module "i2c" already built-in (II) GLINT(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized. (II) GLINT(0): I2C bus "Video" initialized. (II) GLINT(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting --Apple-Mail-7--580563290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-7--580563290-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 01:21:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64FB106568A; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maho.nakata@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B54E8FC14; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maho.nakata@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so215572wfg.7 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:21:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:message-id:to:cc :subject:from:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4EowZYnwOG2ELSYNPTCcDThkUhrqaTMVNyyrtIcKhvA=; b=WTGPfnzshUMTJVhMmgh6LzTVcJLReVqRwUC6Y4FT92+oqr/DfBNlr0axczlAZwpHNR L9deG7y29af8k5CeDW/91peNzMYaEMasbCW7jDT2AuVJEFawgYgdXOdDppctMC/NFcFk 8wafgurg8xAhddgaIlLrQ22oryZ58hA8MNj30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:message-id:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qUkr3UsZBondAQdbpAKl42iXZBjzJY90K1mYT/1GFS7GhGZoxYdUoDhXQJlLTbXRt7 oPLwtxAHpvl8lvPQkQywZQeJER19iVtGmDO1+143j3a0uAXpc7kg2vN0OLUSyaM0SIgp wQ2yXtJ7b5EgntSHBiKNwa4UAKsc5IUzSxDfE= Received: by 10.142.132.2 with SMTP id f2mr238091wfd.216.1233278474353; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rikad85.riken.jp [134.160.214.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm470560wfc.35.2009.01.29.17.21.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:21:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: Maho NAKATA Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:20:41 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20090130.102041.214150990.chat95@mac.com> To: sebastiansetzer@alice-dsl.net From: Maho NAKATA In-Reply-To: <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F6@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> References: <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F5@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> <67CE2BFC0C158B4C96BC1229798DE50F01FA51F6@HSNMST02V05.hsn.alice-dsl.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kurt.buff@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, openoffice@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:21:16 -0000 From: Sebastian Setzer Subject: RE: OpenOffice 3.0, which java must I use? Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:51:14 +0100 > Thanks, > with diablo 1.6 it works. > > To the openoffice porting team: > Could you please mention this on http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/? > This page says "We support only Java 1.5" updated. thank you. -- Nakata Maho http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ , http://ja.openoffice.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 03:33:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CCB106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07108FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so251793fka.11 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:33:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=obr0D+bD1gYUVLMfk3B8JJI/RYGOGZiVJDoMh0r3ffI=; b=kh/1JSbb0U0D/W8z4wPQsiNt62/upTChWELlYmU1s5ed2XYy2ZcDGFnkIZ3YswqRt/ TnmVvwxQxWrBiDVfZ8eXnt1G0EBxX32RGLx7UJfVSpikJh/0DRNgcF7max81v8nFrosl vvTsuMGvGNXrAhCXJ93hniiEoES0VznBaelSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=fVY7MY82X25tq5JGtw/FTF8En+wM4rLUJdSmn8E/kKyntNRZ7iN3HvcdTU89zcmRFx /yY+M1zMNnwkMqZzQrVFjl89L/O+riBWmUTMcjcFzJCeuO8KFgaTjiyjwbFrpsI3aIiL mbrTZn81FOgp8cctH5x+NBSdwAYw+aywTWPAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.131 with SMTP id i3mr652428faq.95.1233286406607; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:33:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:33:26 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750901291933i31f31328rffcb3e5116cb1bf@mail.gmail.com> From: Maxim Khitrov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Shuttle for a BSD file server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:33:28 -0000 Greetings, I'm planning to build a new home file server for myself, starting with about 2TB of RAID6 space, but with room to grow in the future. Most of that will be on SATA drives, but I may throw in two SAS drives in RAID1 for the base OS, hence the SAS raid controller and enclosure. The highest priority for this build is data security, followed by performance and uptime. Rather than go for server-grade components, I thought that I should instead try to separate storage from the server itself. It's cheaper (sort of), easier to upgrade in the future, and if the server goes down for some reason, I can just put the raid card into another machine and once again have access to my data. The other advantage with this build is that I already have a Q6600 and some DDR2 memory around, so that will save me money on having to get Xeons and ECC memory. With that in mind, I currently have the following components picked out (listed below). I would like to know whether anyone has used any of these with FreeBSD 7.x, or if you have some other suggestions for what I should look into (am I asking for trouble by using these parts for a 24/7 file server in terms of stability)? I know that the 3ware controller should be supported, but I'm not sure about the Shuttle. How does FreeBSD play with X48 chipset? The drive enclosure obviously doesn't interact with the OS, but I'd still like your opinion on it or maybe some alternatives. Please let me know what you think. - Max Barebone: Shuttle SX48P2 E http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101070 Raid Card: 3ware 9690SA-8E-KIT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116062 SAS Enclosure: RAIDAGE iAge840ML2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816702014 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 03:58:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8408A106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@cohost.nl) Received: from cohost.nl (mail.cohost.nl [213.247.57.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA8E8FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@cohost.nl) Received: by cohost.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 9AD4474F15D; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:58:10 +0100 (CET) To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Metalon Products Limited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20090130035810.9AD4474F15D@cohost.nl> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:58:10 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Job Vacancy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: metalon.productsgoods@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:58:19 -0000 Greetings, Metalon Products Limited is a small family owned private company and we are into extensive range of upholstery covers, including vinyls, polypropylenes, 100% wools and most of the popular fabrics available in New Zealand supplied worldwide since 1964 with numerous customers home and abroad. 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Thank you. *********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 04:52:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69676106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6688FC1D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0U4txVD081929; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:56:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0U4txNF081599; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:55:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:55:59 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:52:43 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: > Mr. Kruppa: > > Indeed there seems to be a discrepancy between your comments (that the > DVD is inclusive of the documentation) and Mr. Barber, who indicated in his > email to me that the DVD is NOT inclusive of the documentation (only the > three CDs, I did not include his email but can if you wish to see it). > > Can you or he clarify this? Please do read http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html "Availability" yourself: ---------------------------------------- dvd1: Contains everything necessary to install the base FreeBSD operating system, a collection of pre-built packages, the documentation, and supports booting into a "livefs" based rescue mode. This should be all you need if you can burn and use DVD-sized media. ----------------------------------------- Greetings, Uli. > > > V/R, > > Stuart > > > On 1/29/09 9:34 AM, "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: >> >>> Dear Sir or Ma'am: >>> >>> I have tried to search Google and that, but probably am not using the >>> right conglomerate of keywords to find what I want to know, so I am resigned >>> to asking you. >>> >>> I recently noticed that there are quite a number of DVDs and CD-ROMs out >>> for FreeBSD, and I'd like to give it a try. So I downloaded the amd64-all >>> torrent, but I fear I likely have more ISOs than I need. >>> >>> Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? >>> >>> What are all the other ISOs? >>> >>> I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I am >>> asking. >>> >>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso >> This is only a very minimalistic Operating System/Installation >> CD, nearly everything has to be downloaded from the internet. >> You should know what you do, when you use this. >> >>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso >>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso >>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso >>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso >> These are the release CD's. You will need at least disc1. The >> others contain collections of useful software and information. >> >>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso >> Contains the stuff of the four CD's >> >>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso >> A live-file-system, i.e. you can run the OS from CD without >> installing it to your harddisk - not very complete, but nice for >> testing. >> >>> Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. >> >> Greetings >> >> Uli. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Very Respectfully, >>> >>> IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR >>> Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC >>> Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) >>> email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) >>> phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) >>> phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) >>> E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) >>> >>> Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) >>> NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil >>> NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil >>> NRO: teners@nro.mil >>> TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) >>> >>> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is >>> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential >>> and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. >>> Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If >>> you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply >>> e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> | Peter Ulrich Kruppa >> | Wuppertal >> | Germany > > > > > -- > > Very Respectfully, > > IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR > Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC > Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) > email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) > phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) > phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) > E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) > > Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) > NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil > NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil > NRO: teners@nro.mil > TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | Wuppertal | Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 05:07:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DA11065672 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@auscert.org.au) Received: from titania.auscert.org.au (gw.auscert.org.au [203.5.112.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47508FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@auscert.org.au) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (app [10.0.1.192]) by titania.auscert.org.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n0U49Zmc046716 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:09:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from app.auscert.org.au (localhost.auscert.org.au [127.0.0.1]) by app.auscert.org.au (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0U4CfVo050178 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:12:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@auscert.org.au) Message-Id: <200901300412.n0U4CfVo050178@app.auscert.org.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org from: freebsd-questions@auscert.org.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <50176.1233288760.1@app.auscert.org.au> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:12:41 +1000 Subject: makeinfo is stopping portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:07:25 -0000 Hi, I'm still running 5.5R on a machine that needs a few ports upgraded. However, portupgrade now fails consistently when I try to upgrade m4 and autoconf262 with errors that seem to relate to makeinfo. Is there anything I can do to make this work, short of upgrading the base system? Making all in doc Updating ./version.texi restore=: && backupdir=".am$$" && am__cwd=`pwd` && cd . && rm -rf $backupdir && mkdir $backupdir && if (makeinfo --no-split --version) >/dev/null 2>&1; then for f in ./m4.info ./m4.info-[0-9] ./m4.info-[0-9][0-9] ./m4.i[0-9] ./m4.i[0-9][0-9]; do if test -f $f; then mv $f $backupdir; restore=mv; else :; fi; done; else :; fi && cd "$am__cwd"; if makeinfo --no-split -I . -o ./m4.info ./m4.texinfo; then rc=0; cd .; else rc=$?; cd . && $restore $backupdir/* `echo "././m4.info" | sed 's|[^/]*$||'`; fi; rm -rf $backupdir; exit $rc ./m4.texinfo:481: Unknown command `'. ./m4.texinfo:2582: Unknown command `'. ./m4.texinfo:2584: Unknown command `'. ./m4.texinfo:2795: Unknown command `'. makeinfo: Removing output file `./m4.info' due to errors; use --force to preserve. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/m4/work/m4-1.4.11/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/m4/work/m4-1.4.11. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/m4/work/m4-1.4.11. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/m4. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.27118.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=m4-1.4.11,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.4.11,1 make DEPENDS_TARGET=package ** Fix the problem and try again. thanks, -- Joel Hatton | Direct: +61 7 3346 4520 AusCERT - Australia's national CERT | Hotline: +61 7 3365 4417 The University of Queensland | Fax: +61 7 3365 7031 Qld 4072 Australia | WWW: www.auscert.org.au | Email: auscert@auscert.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 05:10:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8061065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15058FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 865E64AC22F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79003-02 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 2B4004AC216 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0U4qXPm030266 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:33 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:52:32 -0500 Message-Id: <1233291152.26964.15.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Subject: Upgrade 6.1 to 7.1 remotely? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:10:35 -0000 I have a remote system with no access to boot info. I can get someone to reset, look at screen, etc. The server is 6.1-RELEASE-p15 and wondering if there is a path to upgrade to 7.1 remotely. Would it be possible to do something like this for getting the box to 6.4... http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-11-26-freebsd-6.1-to-6.2-binary-upgrade.html And then another freebsd-update to 7.1? Seems that box will not let me portupgrade clamav anymore due to a change from 6.1 :( ../libclamav/.libs/libclamav.so: undefined reference to `gethostbyname_r' *** Error code 1 -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 05:21:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C257106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from smtpserver.misty.com (chloe.misty.com [198.137.254.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C158FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teners@bh90210.net) Received: from [68.27.106.255] (68-27-106-255.pools.spcsdns.net [68.27.106.255]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver.misty.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0U5L1Wc017039; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:21:04 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:21:00 -0800 From: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa Message-ID: Thread-Topic: ISOs Thread-Index: AcmCmol8nf5Ev9soTkKaCHZPKLy/kQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber Subject: Re: ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:21:08 -0000 Dear Sir: Sadly, I am forced to admit I actually did read that page, but did not see the informative paragraph you are referencing, until you pointed it out to me! However, armed with all of the responses I have received, and the new understanding I now have, I have moved forward with deleting the other ISO images I do not need, and am readying to burn the DVD image (as that alone will be sufficient for me). It has been quite a long time (seven or so years maybe?) since I last played with BSD (excepting the MacOS based Apple I purchased about 4 years ago). Linux has always been sufficient and more commercially supported for my Unix needs. Though, with ZFS and more products running under FreeBSD, I am for sure interested to evaluate it again. Thanks again for everyone's assistance. V/R, Stuart On 1/29/09 8:55 PM, "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: > >> Mr. Kruppa: >> >> Indeed there seems to be a discrepancy between your comments (that the >> DVD is inclusive of the documentation) and Mr. Barber, who indicated in his >> email to me that the DVD is NOT inclusive of the documentation (only the >> three CDs, I did not include his email but can if you wish to see it). >> >> Can you or he clarify this? > Please do read > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html > "Availability" yourself: > ---------------------------------------- > dvd1: > > Contains everything necessary to install the base FreeBSD > operating system, a collection of pre-built packages, the > documentation, and supports booting into a "livefs" based rescue > mode. This should be all you need if you can burn and use > DVD-sized media. > ----------------------------------------- > > Greetings, > > Uli. > > >> >> >> V/R, >> >> Stuart >> >> >> On 1/29/09 9:34 AM, "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Sir or Ma'am: >>>> >>>> I have tried to search Google and that, but probably am not using the >>>> right conglomerate of keywords to find what I want to know, so I am >>>> resigned >>>> to asking you. >>>> >>>> I recently noticed that there are quite a number of DVDs and CD-ROMs out >>>> for FreeBSD, and I'd like to give it a try. So I downloaded the amd64-all >>>> torrent, but I fear I likely have more ISOs than I need. >>>> >>>> Does the "dvd1" include the contents of the docs? >>>> >>>> What are all the other ISOs? >>>> >>>> I saw no documentation on the freebsd.org site descriptive what I am >>>> asking. >>>> >>>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso >>> This is only a very minimalistic Operating System/Installation >>> CD, nearly everything has to be downloaded from the internet. >>> You should know what you do, when you use this. >>> >>>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso >>>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc2.iso >>>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc3.iso >>>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso >>> These are the release CD's. You will need at least disc1. The >>> others contain collections of useful software and information. >>> >>>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso >>> Contains the stuff of the four CD's >>> >>>> 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso >>> A live-file-system, i.e. you can run the OS from CD without >>> installing it to your harddisk - not very complete, but nice for >>> testing. >>> >>>> Thanks in advance, and have a blessed day. >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> Uli. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Very Respectfully, >>>> >>>> IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR >>>> Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC >>>> Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit >>>> (MROP) >>>> email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) >>>> phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) >>>> phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) >>>> E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) >>>> >>>> Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) >>>> NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil >>>> NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil >>>> NRO: teners@nro.mil >>>> TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) >>>> >>>> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is >>>> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential >>>> and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. >>>> Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If >>>> you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply >>>> e-mail and destroy all copies of the originate message. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >>> >>> | Peter Ulrich Kruppa >>> | Wuppertal >>> | Germany >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Very Respectfully, >> >> IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR >> Las Vegas, NV / Beverly Hills, CA / Philadelphia, PA / Washington, DC >> Amateur Radio Call Sign: N3GWG (Extra) / Marine Radio Operator Permit (MROP) >> email: teners@bh90210.net (also carbon copies to my Blackberry) >> phone: +(1) 310.358.0202 (Beverly Hills, CA, forwards to mobile phone) >> phone: +(1) 215.338.6005 (Philadelphia, PA, voice mail only) >> E-Fax: +(1) 928.437.4505 (Telecopier, fax to email gateway) >> >> Military emails (checked monthly until remote NMCI access is secured) >> NIPRNET: stuart.tener@navy.mil >> NIPRNET: stuart.b.tener@us.army.mil >> NRO: teners@nro.mil >> TS/SCI: tenerstu@nro.ic.gov (GWAN) >> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is >> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential >> and/or privileged information, though strictly at the UNCLASSIFIED level. >> Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 06:18:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2971065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com [207.106.133.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6D88FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E59C9584E; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from lukas.is-a-geek.org (unknown [71.113.98.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 821E69584D; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:18:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:18:10 -0800 (PST) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <4980FB70.2040605@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4980FB70.2040605@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Pobox-Relay-ID: C9417D96-EE95-11DD-818B-CC4CC92D7133-96347044!a-sasl-fastnet.pobox.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restarting new Xorg freezes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:18:19 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Glen Barber wrote: > Luke Dean wrote: >> >> The operating system and ports were all cvsupped and built from source >> today. I'm running Xorg + windowmaker + the "radeon" driver on i386 >> 7-STABLE >> >> My xorg.conf was built from scratch by "Xorg -configure", plus I added >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >> to the "ServerLayout" section, per /usr/ports/UPDATING, since I'm not >> running hal and I can't get keyboard or mouse otherwise. >> >> Everything appears to be great. My applications launch much faster than >> they did before the upgrade. Shutting down and restarting X is the only >> problem I'm having. This was not a problem before I upgraded to the new >> Xorg. >> >> This is a desktop system. I launch X with "startx" from the console. I >> can shut down X either by exiting windowmaker or by killing the Xorg >> server with ctrl+alt+backspace. There appear to be some failure messages >> on the console when I shut down X, but I don't know what they mean or >> if they're important. I'm attaching a log below. I don't see any stuck >> processes after the shutdown, but perhaps I don't know what I'm looking >> for. >> >> If I later restart X with "startx", some corrupted graphical junk appears >> on the screen and the system freezes solid. Keyboard and mouse are >> completely unresponsive. NumLock light won't change. I can't ssh into >> the system either. >> I can reproduce this at will, but my hard drives don't like it. >> >> Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? >> Do I need to switch to hal? >> > > Have you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? > Well.. yeah... See my second paragraph above. Is there something in there that I'm not seeing that explains why restarting X would hang the whole system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 06:43:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCB01065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776CB8FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF92E1173C98; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:14:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49829ACF.40204@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:14:39 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <1233291152.26964.15.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1233291152.26964.15.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.1 to 7.1 remotely? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:43:52 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I have a remote system with no access to boot info. I can get someone to > reset, look at screen, etc. The server is 6.1-RELEASE-p15 and wondering > if there is a path to upgrade to 7.1 remotely. Would it be possible to > do something like this for getting the box to 6.4... > > http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-11-26-freebsd-6.1-to-6.2-binary-upgrade.html > > And then another freebsd-update to 7.1? Seems that box will not let me > portupgrade clamav anymore due to a change from 6.1 :( > > ../libclamav/.libs/libclamav.so: undefined reference to `gethostbyname_r' > *** Error code 1 > > http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 06:49:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA601065686 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B07B8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGIygknDDR9Z/2dsb2JhbADKaoQQBg Received: from event89.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2009 07:49:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:49:09 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Luke Dean Message-ID: <20090130064909.GA8440@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <4980FB70.2040605@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restarting new Xorg freezes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:49:59 -0000 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:18:10PM -0800, Luke Dean wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Glen Barber wrote: > > >Luke Dean wrote: > >> > >>The operating system and ports were all cvsupped and built from source > >>today. I'm running Xorg + windowmaker + the "radeon" driver on i386 > >>7-STABLE > >> > >>My xorg.conf was built from scratch by "Xorg -configure", plus I added > >>Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > >>to the "ServerLayout" section, per /usr/ports/UPDATING, since I'm not > >>running hal and I can't get keyboard or mouse otherwise. > >> > >>Everything appears to be great. My applications launch much faster than > >>they did before the upgrade. Shutting down and restarting X is the only > >>problem I'm having. This was not a problem before I upgraded to the new > >>Xorg. > >> > >>This is a desktop system. I launch X with "startx" from the console. I > >>can shut down X either by exiting windowmaker or by killing the Xorg > >>server with ctrl+alt+backspace. There appear to be some failure messages > >>on the console when I shut down X, but I don't know what they mean or > >>if they're important. I'm attaching a log below. I don't see any stuck > >>processes after the shutdown, but perhaps I don't know what I'm looking > >>for. > >> > >>If I later restart X with "startx", some corrupted graphical junk appears > >>on the screen and the system freezes solid. Keyboard and mouse are > >>completely unresponsive. NumLock light won't change. I can't ssh into > >>the system either. > >>I can reproduce this at will, but my hard drives don't like it. > >> > >>Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? > >>Do I need to switch to hal? > >> > > > >Have you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > > > Well.. yeah... See my second paragraph above. > Is there something in there that I'm not seeing that explains why > restarting X would hang the whole system? > _______________________________________________ You by any chance don't have dual-headed X configured? I had a similar problem and after removing my second ServerLayout section + RgbPath + 'AllowEmptyInput' in xorg.conf, everything seems to work again (even my dual display ???) Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "PANEL" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection # Removed after upgrade xorg... #Section "ServerLayout" # Identifier "X.org Configured" # Screen 0 "PANEL" 0 0 # Screen 1 "VGA_1" RightOf "PANEL" # InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" # InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" # Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" # Option "Xinerama" "true" #EndSection > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 06:50:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1D810656D1 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294C28FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.140] (helo=smtp9.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSnCZ-0002at-N6; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:50:07 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp9.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSnCY-0008Oo-WE; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:50:07 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E12398E0; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:50:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4982A31C.8000103@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:50:04 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <1233291152.26964.15.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1233291152.26964.15.camel@columbus.webtent.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1LSnCY-0008Oo-WE X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.413, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.1 to 7.1 remotely? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:50:09 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I have a remote system with no access to boot info. I can get someone to > reset, look at screen, etc. The server is 6.1-RELEASE-p15 and wondering > if there is a path to upgrade to 7.1 remotely. Would it be possible to > do something like this for getting the box to 6.4... > > http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-11-26-freebsd-6.1-to-6.2-binary-upgrade.html > > And then another freebsd-update to 7.1? Seems that box will not let me > portupgrade clamav anymore due to a change from 6.1 :( > I've upgraded several machines remotely with success (as described in the handbook) and never had any problems (even did a OpenBSD version upgrade from 3.1 to 4.1 - somewhere around 3.4 they switched from a.out to elf format). Those upgrades where both minor (eg. 6.3 -> 6.4) and major (6.4 -> 7.0). Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 07:03:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDDC1065675 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from b.mail.ru.ac.za (b.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191868FC1D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:59263) by b.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSnPF-000BUS-3g; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:03:13 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LSnPF-0003gY-2f; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:03:13 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:03:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4982C251.27467.D92C92A@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20090129164452.D34311065795@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20090129164452.D34311065795@hub.freebsd.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: b.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.34) Cc: gunther.mayer@googlemail.com Subject: Re:Saving pf state for accounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:03:18 -0000 On 29 Jan 2009 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org entreated about "freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 69": > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:47:51 +0200 > Subject: Saving pf state for accounting > > Hi guys, > > My server uses up tons of bandwidth every month and I'd like to start > recording what traffic volumes my different services chew up on a > monthly basis. My firewall utility of choice is pf and I've recently > come across its neat "label" facility so that I can do a simple "pfctl > -sl" to get the latest readings. > > That's all fair and well but I lose all that lovely accounting > information upon reboot so how do I go about saving this? I've googled > quite a bit to look for a solution but have found nothing useful so far, > just unanswered posts in the past. > > From what I can tell so far I'd have to write a custom rc script which > redirects "pfctl -sl" into some sort of logfile which then may be > retrieved at a later stage (and added to current counter output). Is > there an easier way perhaps? I'd use MRTG to store the numbers continuously, viewable as graphs. -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 07:51:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA04106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886AC8FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9jlP1b0071GXsucA1jrQvT; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:24 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9jrN1b0030Yq9Sc8TjrPs7; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:24 +0000 Message-ID: <4982B17F.2040708@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:51:27 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <4981A33A.8060302@comcast.net> <20090129134621.292ce716@server09.gelita.swe> In-Reply-To: <20090129134621.292ce716@server09.gelita.swe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: KDE: What a monster!] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:51:23 -0000 Anders Troback wrote: > Den Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:18 -0500 > skrev Akenner : > > >> I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some >> things used I haven't even heard of before. What is AHWM? >> >> > > http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~ahiorean/ahwm/ > > Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 08:10:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491EA106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C403A8FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LSoSb-0007ut-Bv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:10:45 +0000 Received: from pool-68-239-70-138.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.70.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:10:45 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-70-138.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:10:45 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:11:36 -0500 Lines: 64 Message-ID: References: <26ddd1750901291933i31f31328rffcb3e5116cb1bf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-70-138.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Shuttle for a BSD file server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:10:49 -0000 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm planning to build a new home file server for myself, starting with > about 2TB of RAID6 space, but with room to grow in the future. Most of > that will be on SATA drives, but I may throw in two SAS drives in > RAID1 for the base OS, hence the SAS raid controller and enclosure. > The highest priority for this build is data security, followed by > performance and uptime. > > Rather than go for server-grade components, I thought that I should > instead try to separate storage from the server itself. It's cheaper > (sort of), easier to upgrade in the future, and if the server goes > down for some reason, I can just put the raid card into another > machine and once again have access to my data. The other advantage > with this build is that I already have a Q6600 and some DDR2 memory > around, so that will save me money on having to get Xeons and ECC > memory. With that in mind, I currently have the following components > picked out (listed below). > > I would like to know whether anyone has used any of these with FreeBSD > 7.x, or if you have some other suggestions for what I should look into > (am I asking for trouble by using these parts for a 24/7 file server > in terms of stability)? I know that the 3ware controller should be > supported, but I'm not sure about the Shuttle. How does FreeBSD play > with X48 chipset? The drive enclosure obviously doesn't interact with > the OS, but I'd still like your opinion on it or maybe some > alternatives. Please let me know what you think. [snip] I'm not really answering the direct question, per se, but there is a data point you may wish to know a little more about. There exists a difference in hard drives, ala "Enterprise" vs "Desktop". The difference is in the length of the timeout experienced when an error condition such as a platter sector read/write error and resultant remap. Desktop drives have a fairly long period (something like 8, or more, seconds) while trying to handle the situation. With the "Enterprise" grade of drive this period is much shorter, something like 1 to 1.5 seconds max. Different hardware combinations ultimately behave differently, but the place where this matters most is with a RAID controller. A RAID controller is expecting this timeout to be very short. When paired with desktop drives sometimes a RAID controller will detach, or lose connection, to a drive and you may see lots of read_dma and/or write_dma errors. This is very problematic as it may not actually show itself for quite a while after drive(s) have been placed into service, e.g., everything will run just fine until a drive encounters the first time a sector fails and the drive remaps the sector to another location. A "Desktop" series of drive can take so long to handle this error condition that the controller assumes the entire drive is no longer present. In a datacenter environment the "Enterprise" grade of drives are commonly used. It is when the home user plugs up desktop drives to a RAID controller is where this problem is most likely to surface. It doesn't in all situations, as many people have done just this and experienced no trouble at all. Just one small data point to consider. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 08:27:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84045106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2188FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9kQ91b00J0EPchoA6kTlfa; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:27:45 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9kTk1b0010Yq9Sc8MkTkbJ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:27:45 +0000 Message-ID: <4982BA04.9020102@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:27:48 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070507000302000909000501" Cc: Subject: [Fwd: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:27:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070507000302000909000501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've continued reading to keep myself updated with info used, and I have a few questions about what I've seen about freebsd-update: I've read not to use FreeBSD-update AND cvsup together, and so I've decided to go along with this as to not cause problems for myself. Does FreeBSD-update have any benefit over the cvsup method? I've heard you don't have to go single user and a few other things, but does it have any actual benefit? Thanks, -Allen --------------070507000302000909000501 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename*0="Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE.eml" X-Account-Key: account2 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (LHLO IMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.78) by sz0066.ev.mail.comcast.net with LMTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([69.147.83.53]) by IMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9MhD1b009191zLd0HMhDJ4; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:41:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kCZe-sXRUcAA:10 a=KMtfCR79ncsA:10 a=HbgL/g56OogK6HvHzeP49Q==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=CrbaMuXZ3tLjqPtnMvEA:9 a=vGCvIn-j_rUC0yI49bYA:7 a=VfPJfyAtJcH101fUb7q8YNNqwBQA:4 a=LZpE_G2OTGQA:10 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4069E14EC64; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF03710656D3; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2001065674 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.100.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7584F8FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krad@snaffler.net) X-Trace: 135113718/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-TRUSTED/b2c-IMPLICITLY_TRUSTED/212.74.112.53/None/krad@snaffler.net X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 212.74.112.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: krad@snaffler.net X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoBAAMIgUnUSnA1/2dsb2JhbAAIywuEDgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,343,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="135113718" Received: from e1-1.ns500-1.ts.milt.as9105.net (HELO [10.44.24.27]) ([212.74.112.53]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 29 Jan 2009 09:40:20 +0000 Message-ID: <49817974.3030307@snaffler.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:40:04 +0000 From: "krad@snaffler.net" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0901280332n7301fe50tc85408a9f20c6a22@mail.gmail.com> <49804A92.904@gmail.com> <20090128133943.6ac00015@gumby.homeunix.com> <4981455F.8060907@comcast.net> <49814E03.5010908@gmail.com> <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0901282247q2a19dd7es6d9d0be45d921c68@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hi all, > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 07:34, Tim Judd wrote: > >> Akenner wrote: >> >>> RW wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 >>>> Tim Judd wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, >>>>> it wanted like >30,000 updates and was taking forever. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system >>>> update problems are using freebsd-update. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can >>> someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update your CVS >>> and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a handbook that has >>> exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason I'm having trouble finding >>> it even though I used to have it saved but I don't anymore and I wanted to >>> get CVS sources updated so I can do some updating. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >> csup -g -L 1 -h cvs#.cc.freebsd.org >> /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile >> >> i.e: cvs17.us.freebsd.org >> >> This will update to your uname -r latest patchlevel. Copy and replace (for >> you): RELENG_7_0 with RELENG_7_1 to get the latest patchlevel for 7.1 >> >> >> Original doc seems either replaced by the freebsd-update method (while >> excellent, there are a few things that CVS really triumphs on). >> >> csup is part of base. >> >> I'd be glad to help you through. The canonical update method is still >> listed in the handbook (SS. 24.7.1) used after retrieving the sources. >> > > Thank you Tim for the answers! So far I have used freebsd-update to > apply updates. I seem to recall that it is never good to mix the two > systems (freebsd-updates and csup) to avoid trouble. Is that true? > > Also, the documentation you mention (24.7.1) says this: > > After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single > user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). > > How can this be done with a remote machine? > > NO without serial access or some kind of ALOM card eg DELL DRAC CARD, as you will have no ip up _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------070507000302000909000501-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 08:45:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C48410656CD for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from creddym@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BB68FC20 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from creddym@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so348382rvf.43 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:45:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/sUNwp3PDsZHCsWGOMbK6r+XGmI2fPE+maMj/0cDleU=; b=jlS0twRRmGR7U1REHbwla1X5lkQ2yjg5nQbrzJUn0QgNIuFlIWiqLEkCHaQj7wQcIq PNBavntxsjD409fhABeBt90YhMkUvCcI58Jx4oGLVSeJctGLGoINYZMXGcSwYvuFFMkF dcKt0DnntovZJRBJ0cyn4cN2iGH7/L9s7zGbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=f7JGgMTgmbE1DVtE3JyPNPs7w6COc+g0jKDBidDK7Q4fD/BKKVwoQhcR6+QKwtBbzm eOVCyeE2XC/02GWuU0vTwnTautSgt7WfMHum4+Jyogy/dkC9Q5WN7YgnWfc9Lyt/yNa0 KDxTYLjpc6SqVITkp4OyPPnBQPK2R+vaU8/VQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.115.6 with SMTP id s6mr506769rvm.235.1233305119700; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:45:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:15:19 +0530 Message-ID: <3f95d3db0901300045l4ac0a81ak698513a169f0afc0@mail.gmail.com> From: chandra reddy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to find a directory is NFS mounted / locally mounted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:45:20 -0000 I want to know the command for finding a a directory is NFS mounted or not? -- "debugging a buggy debugger with a cross buggy debugger leads to a buggy life " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 09:00:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7694410656C3 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC6F8FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so743953ewy.19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:00:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8PXgZ0xyjWV8b1PzjaeIC6SSCEsVBCGrsVpqz9uNIyw=; b=snT0cT4dC1xOxXO+WpbEf2CLR7C612l4y4xSVZ7R1HauJZcZzpeJx14Wu7LNuqYe18 /ESG4BFXkx9bOkp7FTARQjeZkI9J5VQOGEttshilaD9q5uKkJcOGFtbB7D02f3eCow4Y L7+piXkl7sJGIkCS+Y1M1dUZirz1srz8NcqQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YLwtmffKwV4Xj5cckUJxYa6+WPYd+YHVljwsUxdwlam5jeWs/bKcOBJuLSO4l8MAOt TpY2vwrp9kChaCZAZoWmjlbSOs8eVLO5syH2woyDvLMpzD+h/niP+bf1dkaAki/tLNRx 7CpayiYFKblzzYj4S25edm65WgOzodeEv/nSg= Received: by 10.210.76.4 with SMTP id y4mr1094098eba.125.1233306006860; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-4557718.home.otenet.gr [94.70.87.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h1sm2091391nfh.63.2009.01.30.01.00.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:00:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4982C194.1060300@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:00:04 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Akenner References: <4982BA04.9020102@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4982BA04.9020102@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:00:10 -0000 Akenner wrote: > Hi, > > I've continued reading to keep myself updated with info used, and I > have a few questions about what I've seen about freebsd-update: > > I've read not to use FreeBSD-update AND cvsup together, and so I've > decided to go along with this as to not cause problems for myself. > > Does FreeBSD-update have any benefit over the cvsup method? I've heard > you don't have to go single user and a few other things, but does it > have any actual benefit? > > Thanks, > > -Allen You don't have to recompile anything (can be lengthy esp. on older machines), the mergemaster step is usually a lot simpler and less tedious. Very useful for people tracking RELEASE and the security branch. You still need csup / cvsup to track STABLE or CURRENT though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 09:11:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C7B10656C2 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD918FCED for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512C55C2E985 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:12:28 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> <49819BD5.5040709@FreeBSD.org> <1233236412.1779.40.camel@wombat.2hip.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:10:41 +1000 Message-Id: <1233306641.1235.1.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:11:26 -0000 On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:40 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 07:46 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > > ,--- You/Bruce (Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:06:45 +0000) ----* > > | One theory is that somehow the mouse driver ioctls which are passed > > | to ums, are somehow hosing USB, although why that would be, I don't > > | understand. ums currently doesn't have driver instrumentation in that path. > > | > > | I pulled a fairly detailed IRC log of my collaborative debugging > > | session with Robert, please ping me if you need details of this. > > `----------------------------------------------------* > > > > Thank you for the detailed write up! No help to me, though -- on my > > Latitude laptop, there was no problem with any mouse: USB or the > > built-in "pointing device". It was the keyboard -- and, trust me, I > > did try many variations of the machine configuration, and I did do a > > lot of reading on various relevant topics (writing, too, as you have > > seen :-() > > > > As I mentioned elsewhere, my way of resolving the problem after a > > one-and-a-half day's of struggle was to revert to the old X (on that > > laptop). > > > > On the topic of how this upgrade was introduced, I can't help but > > refer to my recent experience helping to fix TWM: > > > > ,--- Eeri Kask (Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:21:17 +0200) ----* > > | > I have used the new version of TWM for five days, using it less > > | > intensively than usual. No problems in seen during my (light) use. > > | > > | Hello Alex, no problem at all! Improved solutions have priority over > > | promised deadlines. > > | > > | Thank you for your time helping to improve TWM, :-) > > | > > `----------------------------------------------------* > > > > Eeri Kask and I worked together all past September on fixing TWM > > crashes: I was willingly trying his multiple versions of the code, but > > I knew what I was risking, could choose convenient times for building > > and trying every new version (we tried about 30 of them) -- and I > > could always go back to the previous version (or the original TWM from > > ports). > > > > I would be happy to try a new X on my machines, if it were labeled as > > experimental, with an easy way to revert to the old X (while being in > > the testing stage). As it is, this upgrade brought a lot of problems > > to unsuspecting people, at the time they don't quite choose, with > > potential dangers not disclosed. > > > > In honesty, this upgrade should have been presented this way, way > > before the code was placed in the ports source tree: > > > > * We'll have a new X in ports soon -- there are multiple reports of > > problems with it on Linux. > > > > * We want to try it on FreeBSD -- but nobody is forcing you to do the > > upgrade. > > > > * If you, of your own free will, choose to upgrade, you may have > > hours and days of problems -- but heck, it was your choice. > > > > * If your problems cannot be fixed, you'll have to figure out > > something yourself. > > > > * If you choose not to upgrade, you are frozen with the pre-existing > > ports collection: there may be no automated ways to upgrade your > > packages, with the old X in place. Of course, you can somehow get > > pieces on new ports, unrelated to X. > > I've had patches available for probably a couple of months now posted to > freebsd-x11@. For the few people who tested it, I had no real issues > reported. We were stalled for a long time, While X kept moving, so the > amount of change was large. This update also brings in support for a > lot of people who are running newer hardware. > Could you explain what new support is available for hardware or point out a link to this info? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 09:58:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C951065674 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesoff@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C828FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesoff@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k32so264771rnd.12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:58:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZkVlgzqqZ8fh1b5pRi1V6aeLvJoSltrawxez2HB4P3I=; b=RmQM+GUfZbufg+eGSf+ia4yGFyERBquGk78hhlZQ9Er7DYsAD325bMv1zslW5H6Cc9 8iAo76l4/+y0L5uh9TiYLt1V0iYHLKRgVOC/vHStIkka14m/9vyqN8PfJ8QIWQ6hl5bg X6KE8a7Ul3V7VotgCG6V/6/pxxXUTUPTJcFHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EK3zlmrrUlf+vBsXJOPzfie2Z5/lH+O3EskvqKqIDHXDH9qfwWL9VzCtDvvTdKCMFF gl4WqUjLk8wALzUEvZ0QWzjgVfKeR08KgzUmn98fnuRynKLVVX4d46UXy7IpX5bDGhjo RWpAFGSOjdE0XfmLXrNhj7RpBhYxXA4FsmQDE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.65.81.16 with SMTP id i16mr633467qbl.120.1233309497948; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:58:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:58:17 +0000 Message-ID: <720051dc0901300158h546785ccy4ed6091ac3b97195@mail.gmail.com> From: James Seward To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Surprisingly high interrupt rate on idle machine's uhci controller on 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:58:20 -0000 Hello, While checking out the -P option for top in 7.1 I noticed that my desktop at home (which is currently idle) was spending nearly 100% of one core on interrupt: last pid: 5678; load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 59 processes: 1 running, 58 sleeping CPU 0: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU 1: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.2% idle CPU 2: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU 3: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 90.3% interrupt, 9.7% idle So I looked at vmstat -i: interrupt total rate irq16: nvidia0 em* 5009831 88 irq18: uhci2 ehci+ 66595 1 irq19: uhci4++ 2855320585 50637 irq22: pcm0 213238 3 irq23: uhci3 ehci1 1 0 cpu0: timer 112447860 1994 cpu1: timer 112444767 1994 cpu3: timer 109457852 1941 cpu2: timer 109457830 1941 Total 3304418559 58602 The interrupt rate for uhci4 seems very high for an idle system. % dmesg | grep uhci4 uhci4: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci4: [ITHREAD] usb5: on uhci4 % dmesg | grep usb5 usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: on usb5 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 % usbdevs -v ... Controller /dev/usb5: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered Nothing is plugged in there! The only USB devices I have plugged in are: addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel addr 2: USB2.0 Hub, vendor 0x05e3 addr 3: Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v4.0, Microsoft addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel addr 2: Generic USB Hub, Chicony addr 3: PFU-65 USB Keyboard, Chicony The receiver for my wireless mouse, which is plugged into a USB hub (this is to fix a different problem where if the receiver is directly plugged into the machine it stops working and FreeBSD complains that it has disabled the USB controller!), and my Happy Hacking keyboard which sits behind its own built-in hub. The machine is: % uname -a FreeBSD tomo.jamesoff.net 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #4: Mon Jan 26 22:16:37 UTC 2009 root@tomo.jamesoff.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 The board is an ASUS P5Q3 with a Q6600 2.4GHz installed. If there is any other information I should supply or debugging I can do, please let me know. /JMS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 10:32:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752301065674 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imabapa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A09F8FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imabapa@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so817583ewy.19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:32:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jJZweqm7mkNG4B2Cw2BK3+65QnI0X1lTdI8lIozSI2Q=; b=o4YFKILoh/OqGxYjb47RkdKRSaUhghD3SjpAb0FP5kHwyqP+jVXBxrsuU8g6l9N1Bb a/IhkF/aqYudUGSD6gkm/JY3dvNzmION8zyRVGxSFAmg23udYcM5OxmN4Qmjmfzy/AQv wlxuMmW2xkBLv1AGUhoSUIa/hB62P27Gz7fLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gk7wsGdbsPRSb6ivfKmiRmFQz2z2G9ilti8BLgQKeIN4TQsca/ASwQf+4d1+01dZQZ zYk9VG/viNKujKTKaFbDzI0PaiggmMNKQlQ0/ddT29+T/qmiLsJdruC3iKQm+K8tMhke yZ8S544sbQuYlCwL5qEzrlQgSuDBKxisim4OY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.87.18 with SMTP id k18mr1166094ebb.69.1233309842951; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:04:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:04:02 +0200 Message-ID: <850e315e0901300204o6894384fxc1e50a44706c65b0@mail.gmail.com> From: Isaac Mabapa To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Nagios-3.0.6 [Segmentation fault] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:32:31 -0000 Hi I'm having a problem with trying to start nagios-3.0.6 with embedded perl. I'm running freebsd 7.1-RELEASE-p2 with perl-5.8.9. when i try to start nagios i get this error. Performing sanity check of nagios configuration: OK Starting nagios. Segmentation fault is this this a known bug ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 11:05:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2C6106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: from web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.85.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56B1E8FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: (qmail 86801 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2009 10:38:55 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: dMDq48IVM1mombZkFi3nlBmbaKm0mfEFomMeHL8uB_Fj.6m9x1tOwtCtZTIzUxB3UqpYhOE7y0iF5K5WkAIhED9MdUW1jCbqeSLzoeK193Ov8TjeLz8KkHCv8n2xRW2QrnS.sq1uTUhJ6xO9jAgsj4f6gGnlH.WK2jWmZlIJiPuasNuLtEPKQOk65sP0wKEv27D9l65FTpUkRyuNEMY7ji7NJEfusgyHMQ-- Received: from [69.43.143.59] by web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:38:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:38:55 -0800 (PST) From: Gabe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <597584.81252.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: atacontrol + highpoint raid & hot-swappable bays = reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nrml@att.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:05:35 -0000 Hello list, I've come upon a problem I've googled the daylights out of, further I've read atacontrol(8) up and down without success. My goal is simple, I have a supermicro 1U with hot-swappable drive bays which hold 2 SATA drives that are connected to a PCI highpoint rocket raid card. I need to be able to simulate a failure on HDD1 (drive bay 2) and I've been trying to do it by following the handbook here: [18.4.3] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/raid.html to no avail. atacontrol detach ata3 atacontrol attach ata3 atacontrol addspare ar0 ata3 Now this is when I encounter a "Device Busy" error. In order to recover from this I've tried detaching and attaching to no avail, rebooting just makes atacontrol status ar0 only show disk 1 even though disk 2 (ata3) is listed in atacontrol list. See below for a transcript from the shell, hopefully someone can provide some insight before I flip out. :) Thanks, /gabe atapci0@pci0:1:3:0: class=0x010400 card=0x00011103 chip=0x00051103 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Triones Technologies Inc. (HighPoint)' device = 'HPT372x UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac kernel: hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27) Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac kernel: ar0: 76319MB status: READY Script started on Fri Jan 30 02:21:01 2009 amnesiac# atacontrol list ATA channel 0: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 1: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 3: Master: ad6 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present amnesiac# atacontrol status ar0 ar0: ATA RAID1 status: READY subdisks: 0 ad6 ONLINE 1 ad4 ONLINE amnesiac# atacontrol detach ata2 amnesiac# tail -n5 /var/log/messages Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac savecore: no dumps found Jan 30 02:19:39 amnesiac login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: subdisk4: detached Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: ad4: detached amnesiac# atacontrol attach ata2 Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present amnesiac# atacontrol status ar0 ar0: ATA RAID1 status: DEGRADED subdisks: 0 ad6 ONLINE 1 ---- MISSING amnesiac# atacontrol list ATA channel 0: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 1: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 3: Master: ad6 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present amnesiac# atacontrol addspare ar0 ad4 atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDADDSPARE): Device busy amnesiac# ^Dexit Script done on Fri Jan 30 02:22:47 2009 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 11:07:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B34106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: from web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.85.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D37298FC18 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: (qmail 96040 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2009 10:40:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3qliZ2UVM1lbvhLmAc3aENq6ejnJ1fDXDqKYJeeb6C5JI05o03ebADMP0Ne8LXFwS9wsXsYWSDaZtWQLc7nwR55I2XezVTLHXOjJvqeERZusf975Kgxi01A7m..g3_QFIjdiX.8Maj3O0gT6I38jpYHD0ql3TJA4uPQC.ywnu0KUPU8VsHhVP5KgPzDROeqPmhY8MS8N_DJk68fOOo3xwAaCSf2hcywr7w-- Received: from [69.43.143.59] by web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:40:44 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: Gabe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <50265.96017.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: atacontrol + highpoint raid & hot-swappable bays = reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nrml@att.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:07:26 -0000 Hello list, I've come upon a problem I've googled the daylights out of, further I've read atacontrol(8) up and down without success. My goal is simple, I have a supermicro 1U with hot-swappable drive bays which hold 2 SATA drives that are connected to a PCI highpoint rocket raid card. I need to be able to simulate a failure on HDD1 (drive bay 2) and I've been trying to do it by following the handbook here: [18.4.3] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/raid.html to no avail. atacontrol detach ata3 atacontrol attach ata3 atacontrol addspare ar0 ata3 Now this is when I encounter a "Device Busy" error. In order to recover from this I've tried detaching and attaching to no avail, rebooting just makes atacontrol status ar0 only show disk 1 even though disk 2 (ata3) is listed in atacontrol list. See below for a transcript from the shell, hopefully someone can provide some insight before I flip out. :) Thanks, /gabe atapci0@pci0:1:3:0: class=0x010400 card=0x00011103 chip=0x00051103 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Triones Technologies Inc. (HighPoint)' device = 'HPT372x UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac kernel: hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27) Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac kernel: ar0: 76319MB status: READY Script started on Fri Jan 30 02:21:01 2009 amnesiac# atacontrol list ATA channel 0: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 1: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 3: Master: ad6 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present amnesiac# atacontrol status ar0 ar0: ATA RAID1 status: READY subdisks: 0 ad6 ONLINE 1 ad4 ONLINE amnesiac# atacontrol detach ata2 amnesiac# tail -n5 /var/log/messages Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac savecore: no dumps found Jan 30 02:19:39 amnesiac login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: subdisk4: detached Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: ad4: detached amnesiac# atacontrol attach ata2 Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present amnesiac# atacontrol status ar0 ar0: ATA RAID1 status: DEGRADED subdisks: 0 ad6 ONLINE 1 ---- MISSING amnesiac# atacontrol list ATA channel 0: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 1: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present ATA channel 3: Master: ad6 Serial ATA v1.0 Slave: no device present amnesiac# atacontrol addspare ar0 ad4 atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDADDSPARE): Device busy amnesiac# ^Dexit Script done on Fri Jan 30 02:22:47 2009 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 12:33:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D81C106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3668FC1B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so465980fka.11 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:33:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fvx6Uxfzk6V5kjfbIbT6941TwFCyj0apy3dxstFgJY4=; b=OmlY+Dc7gapFPDjn2Bvoep2gBpu80G0MKh1Rir/7/c5AD95yykJmUMKkP20G8oB2Nc lrsORHiC9uAD6s/UWXJb4WZ8ZnPt0R3DzWLtak8ij9OXgRtGjVc8iQvN1B550+hFLS5d 5Gn/de+hT+2YF4ieQfezRph2zOH6Y0MOdH58c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BR6Zg9dFJV3fA88VMoJgCzEJ8K4bThHk+VuZEcyytH/MH90blvAp4N+LfI90X8B+t5 Dvm+hikHYE52oOdH5eqamOAfocKjr4r0o3QuL92COJDzVdB2Kr5h/d93bsET1g+u6Ack dx3FVdezS8Wxy8nEFWSyPZ/3brSJObt4cXf4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.10 with SMTP id k10mr990686faq.100.1233318823672; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:33:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <26ddd1750901291933i31f31328rffcb3e5116cb1bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:33:43 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750901300433m612fff76m2af9c9414d67313b@mail.gmail.com> From: Maxim Khitrov To: nightrecon@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shuttle for a BSD file server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:33:46 -0000 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > I'm not really answering the direct question, per se, but there is a data > point you may wish to know a little more about. There exists a difference in > hard drives, ala "Enterprise" vs "Desktop". The difference is in the length > of the timeout experienced when an error condition such as a platter sector > read/write error and resultant remap. I'm aware of that fact. In my workstation I'm using four Seagate Barracuda ES drives in RAID5. For this build I will likely go with with ES.2 (ST31000340NS). - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 12:52:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E12E1065686 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEF38FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so172627fxm.19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:52:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lqSGLVuBJY09JUdJ/Kz0BPSqgN6iF331e8KeGQ9Yaxc=; b=s0SB+JIe/IW8m7+nYxdps0Np4JSjT5pg1k9xlWFe45beXVRNkHmBEGRDJO3od5Pyme WKIuMCMObPLkavTKdb1cZnTPkTddlQOgP+iuuigE89FD90LCrNWOp7O4MPXuGa2VRfOq eNf7nw0Wad/Fk2ys2ocESio+/1WKdhTocm6ZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=knxSvK1qyuoMxCcUmIzfRAXhsJoFB5Le72wjUNBZKSNqPwh6qacSK3vWYYzo899vkd UO647FLZu3L0MvpTiUmeB5cvL/XEP23yr4I0TIHKaRA36p2wlTz6H8gNAwxMNcZBdx9u XpTZtaSGT8YVyrz7wJKUhjsIwm3eiySkf7GcM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.109.84 with SMTP id i20mr1035213fap.42.1233319973982; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:52:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750901300433m612fff76m2af9c9414d67313b@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ddd1750901291933i31f31328rffcb3e5116cb1bf@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750901300433m612fff76m2af9c9414d67313b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:52:53 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750901300452s2dbab6eej99fa945cda5db856@mail.gmail.com> From: Maxim Khitrov To: nightrecon@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shuttle for a BSD file server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:52:58 -0000 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Michael Powell wrote: >> I'm not really answering the direct question, per se, but there is a data >> point you may wish to know a little more about. There exists a difference in >> hard drives, ala "Enterprise" vs "Desktop". The difference is in the length >> of the timeout experienced when an error condition such as a platter sector >> read/write error and resultant remap. > > I'm aware of that fact. In my workstation I'm using four Seagate > Barracuda ES drives in RAID5. For this build I will likely go with > with ES.2 (ST31000340NS). > > - Max On second thought, given all the problems Seagate has been having lately, including with that particular model, I may go for WD RE3 drives instead. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 13:16:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B887106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinskernel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6F28FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinskernel@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so438761gxk.19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:16:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=3c+tibXfq03ff3xiJ+fV9ZOUToWUFWsxarfIPxMt0Zs=; b=Ck5uqTDIrK4N6Wn3GlsyxuQV+f++p+kqXUoTf08oz/h9DXfUSivLhqWPuhF9M4EqFa FNw2653mvILKGT20LzXg2NgtowrFsypdl8gNytutZYwW6A7T6+RBD+2s6ShsBroyjtoX 4nMyLYxCee3VgZnqsy9dA41TE95+/OKaalUa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=wqN0vsXLXuFlGznbtJcrsgZ8MMNs7sFgqFMoYG+QGsZfqA2tY/9OLUQL1eHN/q/v89 uHVmltUst8oXvXBbc4s7+tj7VP956WgY1l81idt4teB7ZZt6n+84BTz826zB8OH3EOUZ HxRCWjYagwh00cJU7a3E3Su8e8zKx8+93D0uQ= Received: by 10.64.63.16 with SMTP id l16mr703809qba.6.1233320094243; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from bas2-montreal45-1177828779.dsl.bell.ca (bas2-montreal45-1177828779.dsl.bell.ca [70.52.61.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p31sm1233648qbp.18.2009.01.30.04.54.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:54:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Charles Darwin To: chandra reddy In-Reply-To: <3f95d3db0901300045l4ac0a81ak698513a169f0afc0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:54:51 -0500 References: <3f95d3db0901300045l4ac0a81ak698513a169f0afc0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to find a directory is NFS mounted / locally mounted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:16:44 -0000 On 30-Jan-09, at 3:45 AM, chandra reddy wrote: > I want to know the command for finding a a directory is NFS mounted > or not? man nfsstat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 13:33:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57064106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7A18FC1D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so980103ewy.19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:33:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1Uljwxhvg1Jw84TTbgbIpxpw5BfHM3AzNyypT9AHKe0=; b=QT1JqeMptNin1C37MQ2LZ00mKTQ00ZWBwcMbxuxWXChTUvWYK0L31stETOsW2/IvOY v27yhR5CDAZI+E6c5ywiGa+plnzixu8nSw2/nWfUtuOzfvWw5uzsmt6mAE+MEhdXtXGH c4VyKsZx9wFvLmS2NWaJe3GR+ETcc6o310PkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=itygcNZOeFkMighp2oUx9GbZ/GvAE+gKMS1a5V91uRZ0mJGFaMrbe9zvSkoZ7a2fwe iatgBHSkuzr8ANvHAp67r6LV2Zq+i+1znIKY3jNTNfUX4E11qprBdvt6dAEq44CyuSFY PCnN6R/e5XwRzUfRGhAAwnYzCcINWgYQ9BUbU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.90.10 with SMTP id n10mr1355662ebb.59.1233320911094; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:08:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:08:30 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:33:30 -0000 Hi I have an amd64 box with FreeBSD 7.0, just upgrade to gnome 2.24. No I have a problem with getting gdm to start. I have trieded to: make deinstall results in problem with deleting following directories: pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/share/gdm' pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/gdm/PreSession' pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/gdm/PostSession' pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/gdm/Init' Should I just manually remove these directories? recompiling and installing gdm again when I try to start gdm /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm start I get following: ** (gdm-binary:5267): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManage= r ** (gdm-binary:5267): WARNING **: Could not acquire name; bailing out When I run sockstat I can see that gdm-binary is not running. I have googled and found some mentioning something about the dbus system and programs not running as root, but how do I proceed. any help apriciated By the way, I need this box as a server where thin clients connect to via xdmcp and get to login via gdm on the server. All I did was upgrading from Gnome 2.22 to 2.24 via ports. /klaus --=20 Klaus F. =D8stergaard, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 13:35:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EB6106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) Received: from worldmax.nl (mail.worldmax.nl [81.28.80.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DA98FC24 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.3959 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: normal Priority: normal Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:36:04 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs during mountcritremote execution thread-index: AcmCXipkrzgq2lCLQG+oiAvdADEPQgAgNZdw References: <200901291308.47418.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> From: "Arjan van der Oest" To: "Mel" , Cc: Subject: RE: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs during mountcritremote execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:35:57 -0000 Mel wrote: >> - why does the system tries to mount the nfs filesystem from the fstab >> while nfs_client_enable has been set to no in rc.conf? >Because there is no relation between the two. You could be using a 3rd >party nfs kernel module. Yes, but I am not. I'm using the default kernel option which I believe is enabled with the mentioned rc.conf switch, or am I wrong here? >> And more bizarre: when interrupting the=20 >> mountcritremote script the share has been actually mounted, so it seems >> the 'mount -a -t nfs' command has actually been executed successfully. > >Looks more like the server is not sending a "success" message or it got >lost in transit. If this is 100% reproducable, look into compatibility=20 >issues, by scaling down the NFS version for the mount and check firewall >rules on both ends. Firewall has been disabled and seems not the problem, since (even with the firewall enabled) the manual mount works fine. In case of fw problems this would be a problem too. Also what puzzles me is the fact that a new identical setup box has no problem. As I wrote earlier the only difference is that I did not select the 'enable nfs client' from the sysinstall this time. I have not used any of the mentioned flags on the second box too, so why does it work on that machine? --=20 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, Worldmax Operations B.V. =20 Arjan van der Oest Network Design Engineer T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 =20 E.: arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl W.:www.worldmax.nl W.:www.aerea.nl GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78, fingerprint: 2E9F 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78) Internet communications are not secure; therefore, the integrity of this = e-mail cannot be guaranteed following transmission on the Internet. This = e-mail may contain confidential information. If you have received this = e-mail in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail. Use of = this e-mail by any person other than the addressee is strictly = forbidden. 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DSR1500AP, with SDI& fire wire, 400 original drum hours @ 4.000 Euros Sony DSR2000P, 2600 original drum hours @ 5.500 Euros Sony DSR2000P, new drum "hrs" @ 7.000 Euros Sony DNWA30P, 2000 original drum hours @ 1.500 Euros Sony DNWA65P, 3000 drum hours @ 1.800 Euros Sony DNWA75P, 3500 original drum hours @ 4.500 Euros Sony DNWA220P, 2500 drum hours @ 4.000 Euros Sony DNWA225P, 2200 drum hours @ 7.000 Euros Sony J1, betacam SP and SX player, low hours @ 1.200 Euros Sony J3A, 1200 original drum hours @ 3.900 Euros Sony DVW522P, low original drum hours @ 2.500 Euros Sony DVW510P S/N 11198, 3278 drum hours @ 4.500 Euros Sony DVWA510P, 2500 drum hours @ 6.000 Euros Sony DVW500P S/N 16243, 3587 drum hours @ 15.000 Euros Sony DVWA500P S/N 10520, fully serviced, new drum "0hrs" @ 19.000 Euros Sony DVWM2000P, 300 original drum hours @ 23.000 Euros Sony JH3, 150 original drum hours, with fire wire @ 13.000 Euros Sony HDWM2000P S/N 49298, EX-DEMO, 390 original drum hours @ 33.000 Euros Sony HDWM2000P, NEW IN THE BOX @ 36.000 Euros CAMERA's & CAMCORDER's : Sony HDC1500, complete camera chain, specs on request, 16 units available @ 50.000 Euros/ unit Thomson LDK8000, complete camera chain, specs on request, 6 units available @ make an offer Sony DXCD30P, camera head @ 1.600 Euros Sony DXCD35P, camera head @ 2.000 Euros Thomson TTV1657D (4/3-16:9) complete triax chain @ 16.000 Euros Thomson LDK23HS MKII complete chain @ 38.000 Euros Panasonic AJD800P, 1400 drum hours @ 1.600 Euros Panasonic AJD610WAE, 700 drum hours @ 3.600 Euros Panasonic AJ-SDC615E, 1300 original drum hours @ 4.500 Euros Panasonic AJD910WAE, low hours @ 5.000 Euros Panasonic AGHVX200, ex-demo, 0hrs @ 3.300 Euros Panasonic AJSDX900, with AJ-VF20WE, 2550 original drum hours @ 7.000 Euros Panasonic AJHDX900, with AJ-HVF21, 1150 original drum hours @13.000 Euros Panasonic HPX-2100E, ex-demo, 4 years warranty, with view finder and microphone @ 18.700 Euros Panasonic AJ-HDC27 (varicam), 800 original drum hours @ 15.000 Euros Sony BVWD600P S/N 40358, 233 drum hours @ 2.000 Euros Sony HVR-Z1E, around 700 original drum hours @ 2.000 Euros Sony HVR-Z5E, NEW @ 3.740 Euros Sony HVR-Z7E, NEW @ 4.680 Euros Sony PMW-EX3, NEW @ 6.870 Euros Sony PMW-700, NEW @ 21.840 Euros Sony DSRPD150P, battery charger @ 1.200 Euros Sony DSRPD170P, battery charger, wide angle converter @ 1.600 Euros Sony DSR370P S/N 42129, 383 original drum hours, including Canon YH19x6.7KRS @ 3.500 Euros Sony DSR400P S/N 43512, 50 original drum hours @ 4.000 Euros Sony DSR500WSP S/N 42925, 800 original drum hours @ 3.000 Euros Sony DSR570WSP S/N 46925, 1200 original drum hours @ 4.500 Euros Sony DSR450WSP S/N 42790, 550 original drum hours @ 7.500 Euros Sony DVW700P, details on request @ from 2.000 Euros Sony DVW707P, details on request @ from 2.500 Euros Sony DNW7P, details on request @ from 2.000 Euros Sony DNW9WSP, details on request @ from 4.000 Euros Sony DNW90WSP, details on request @ from 6.000 Euros Sony DVW709WSP S/N 40090, 1317 original drum hours @ 9.000 Euros Sony DVW709WSP S/N 40011, 399 original drum hours @ 10.000 Euros Sony DVW790WS S/N 40330, 55 drum hours @ 13.500 Euros Sony DVW790WSP S/N 41929, 516 drum hours @ 15.000 Euros Sony DVW790WSP S/N 42199, 601 original drum hours @ 17.000 Euros Sony PDW530P S/N 40538, 40 original lazer hours @ 14.000 Euros Sony PDW530P S/N 60394, 18 original lazer hours @ 15.000 Euros Sony HDW730S S/N 10192, 551 original drum hours, like new ! @ 16.000 Euros Sony HDW750P S/N 40113, 1513 original drum hours, with down converter @ 17.000 Euros Sony HDW750P S/N 40112, 1521 original drum hours, with down converter @ 17.000 Euros Sony HDW790P, 70 original drum hours @ 23.000 Euros Sony HDWF900/3 S/N 12474, 1519 original drum hours @ 20.000 Euros LENSES : Canon ZSD300 & FPD400, ex-demo @ 1.500 Euros Fujinon A16x9BERM @ 800 Euros Canon J15x8BIRS @ 1.500 Euros Fujinon A15x8BEVM @ 1.500 Euros Fujinon A8.5x5.5BEVM @ 3.000 Euros Canon YJ19x9KRS @ 1.000 Euros Canon YJ12x6.5IRS @ 3.000 Euros Canon J16x8BIRS @ 2.500 Euros Canon J8x6BKRS @ 1.800 Euros Canon J8x6BIRS @ 2.500 Euros Canon J9x5.2BIRS @ 5.000 Euros Canon J11x4.5BIRS @ 7.000 Euros Canon J22x7.6IAS @ 6.000 Euros Canon J33x15IRS with lens support + remotes @ 17.000 Euros Fujinon A10x4.8BEVM @ 6.000 Euros Fujinon A13x4.5BERD @ 8.000 Euros Fujinon HA13x4.5BERM, @ 12.000 Euros Fujinon HA13x4.5BERM, EX-DEMO @ 13.000 Euros Fujinon HA20x7.8BM10 @ 13.000 Euros Fujinon HA10x5BM10 @ 13.000 Euros Canon HJ11x4.7BIRSE, NEW @ 13.000 Euros Canon HJ21x7.8BIRSD @ 11.000 Euros Canon HJ22x7.6BIRSE, EX-DEMO @ 13.000 Euros Canon HJ22x7.6BIASE, NEW @ 14.000 Euros Fujinon HA42x , perfect condition @ contact us Canon J55super, with zoom and focus + lens support @ 19.000 Euros Canon PJ70 MK1 with zoom and focus + lens support @ 24.000 Euros Canon PJ70 MKII with zoom and focus + lens support @ 34.000 Euros Canon DIGI SUPER 86 XS with zoom and focus @ 78.000 Euros Fujinon HAe 10x10 M T1.8 @ 45.000 Euros Fujinon Super prime set @ 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Tektronix SPG271 @ 1.000 Euros Tektronix TSG111 @ 500 Euros Fora FA320, TBC @ 500 Euros Fora FA330, TBC @ 600 Euros Vinten Vision 10 @ 1.300 Euros Vinten Vision 11, carbon fiber @ 2.000 Euros Sachtler S18+ SBMLCF @ 3.900 Euros Tektronix WFM300 @ 800 Euros Tektronix WFM601A @ 2.500 Euros Tektronix WFM5000, ex-demo @ 4.250 Euros Sony DMXE2000 @ 1.500 Euros Sony DMXE3000 @ 2.500 Euros Sony PCM7030 @ 600 Euros Sony PCM7040 @ 1.200 Euros Yamaha 03D @ 800 Euros DK AUDIO PT5210, Vari Time Digital Sync Generator @ 2.000 Euros IDX video wireless system SDI, Model: WIVI @ 2.700 Euros AccuScene VF 1280S HD view finder with zebra Black & White, compatible for F23/F35/Genesis/RED @ 9.000 Euros FOUCUS FS-100, fire store HD multiformat DVCPRO HD, 100Go @ 400 Euros Snell & Wilcox IQ MODULAR with IQADBBG and 2x IQAVDA @ 2.000 Euros EVS XT2 6 channels SD, 5x 73GO, audio analo, AES, 2x PSU cool swap, open code, multicam LSM, super motion, FX split screen, network SDTI 1.5, protocol 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1.0 Received: by 10.210.120.7 with SMTP id s7mr1312740ebc.184.1233327790502; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:03:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:03:12 -0000 2009/1/30 Klaus Friis =D8stergaard : > Hi > > I have an amd64 box with FreeBSD 7.0, just upgrade to gnome 2.24. > > No I have a problem with getting gdm to start. > > I have trieded to: > make deinstall > > results in problem with deleting following directories: > > pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/share/gdm' > pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory > '/usr/local/etc/gdm/PreSession' > pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory > '/usr/local/etc/gdm/PostSession' > pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/gdm/Ini= t' > > Should I just manually remove these directories? > > recompiling and installing gdm again when I try to start gdm > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm start > > I get following: > > ** (gdm-binary:5267): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayMana= ger > > ** (gdm-binary:5267): WARNING **: Could not acquire name; bailing out > > When I run sockstat I can see that gdm-binary is not running. > > I have googled and found some mentioning something about the dbus > system and programs not running as root, but how do I proceed. > > any help apriciated > > By the way, I need this box as a server where thin clients connect to > via xdmcp and get to login via gdm on the server. > > All I did was upgrading from Gnome 2.22 to 2.24 via ports. > > /klaus I tried to remove the directories that was not removed by deinstall manually, and then installed again, now no complaints about not being able to uninstall I can now start gdm again, with out any complaints, but when I run sockstat I cannot see gdm-binary active nor any listen on udp 177. Any suggestions? In /usr/local/etc/gdm/custum.conf I have only [xdmcp] Enable=3Dtrue Port=3D177 /Klaus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:15:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBDF106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=274b88cda=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D9C8FC2C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=274b88cda=a@jenisch.at) Received: from srv47.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.137]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2009 15:46:14 +0100 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.187]) by srv47.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:46:14 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:46:14 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0UEkEQ8005258 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:46:14 +0100 Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0UEkENM005257 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:46:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:46:14 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2009 14:46:14.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[805D7890:01C982E9] Subject: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:15:58 -0000 Hi, Today I upgraded my system (ports) so I got x.org 7.4 installed. Given the various entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the recent updates for xorg I wonder what the correct settings/combinations are for my installation: I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable="YES" as well as moused (moused_enable=YES in rc.conf). My login is via console from where I manually start X11 (gnome) via "startx". Here's what I've got in my xorg.conf: # Added after upgrade of X11 Section "ServerFlags" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" EndSection the following entries where there even before the upgrade: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "Corekeyboard" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbLayout" "de" Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Here are my questions: o) When I start X it basically works, but then I get out of gnome, ending up at the commandline and start X11 again ("startx"), the screen becomes garbled and everything freezes completely. Not only is any input via the console disabled but also no reaction on already established ssh-sessions - complete lockup. I'm using the "radeonhd" driver for my graphics card is a ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT (RV610 chipset). o) Are the above settings (i.e. AllowEmptyInput and the sections for keyboard/mouse) correct for my combination of hald and moused running? Thanks much in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:31:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653531065730 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3948FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so192528yxb.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:31:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SPTipo/ESD/kE2FzvSIZpsFz9YhK8DkAwqSXalD/ius=; b=dEK+BPlVUoS73A+zWKs0GfY6AA52vrMkA8apC64ybWU82ah0lt13XmAg6enRIfgIq7 oPOwkvMu1cFiOYJD56JyGs5CVdLA7jyz5E9LSaE2WBtTGrR2GAJ4i2/pxtyQ+u4q//xd BXD6aoo+oWLjLO5Sum5fwkIRGqWt0aY7+xJ1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UtnDeth3RxcLQKw2FVe1SLLzu67X2eirMJhDes6N2RNGapWS7XVrUHkyQkx2tcLt3+ dmh22j3LPs7n2QtStLT55ysLxKnuPpE4lQVOFp/Mh9WKGOWI39m6B2Gpwz6s2cRPGrQp 40rU1ARphLGDkwemW+pN0lHxoFvbIMRa7TiX4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.91.4 with SMTP id o4mr1287194ybb.207.1233329474511; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:31:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3f95d3db0901300045l4ac0a81ak698513a169f0afc0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to find a directory is NFS mounted / locally mounted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:17 -0000 2009/1/30 Charles Darwin : > > On 30-Jan-09, at 3:45 AM, chandra reddy wrote: > >> I want to know the command for finding a a directory is NFS mounted or >> not? > > man nfsstat > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > or # Shows mounted filesystems [user@host}~% mount /dev/disk0s2 on / (NFS exported, local, journaled) devfs on /dev (local) fdesc on /dev (union) on /.vol /dev/disk0s3 on /Volumes/Untitled (local, read-only) automount -nsl [208] on /Network (automounted) automount -fstab [212] on /automount/Servers (automounted) automount -static [212] on /automount/static (automounted) [user@host]~% -- R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:31:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED534106571D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A992E8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSvLJ-0002p1-By; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:44 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LSvLF-0006zK-6M; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:37 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0UFVaVi082762; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:36 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0UFVSSA082761; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:28 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:28 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Ewald Jenisch Message-ID: <20090130153128.GA82736@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:47 -0000 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:46:14PM +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > Today I upgraded my system (ports) so I got x.org 7.4 installed. > > Given the various entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the recent > updates for xorg I wonder what the correct settings/combinations are > for my installation: > > I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable="YES" as > well as moused (moused_enable=YES in rc.conf). what??? where's hald_enable="YES" documented? There's nothing about this in X, dbus, or hald manual pages. Perhaps this is why my X servers won't work and dbus keeps complaining that it cannot connect.. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:43:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6652F1065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD568FC2B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so195033yxb.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:43:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pzSgvKAK7uWCc4k6ziGHVH5an86ymGpz7HsUHcxQ9pY=; b=JIQOic5dejefIq+T8qtd/zQuyr8Q4fgoeJmBBblYbizY+ucjPzdqcaeMaoCRpceSN4 wXSytGBBwDz8CuZHzT1geNH0ezjhsLHpAxAuN69otinAweOOhJvDTnVDmdXPJMUWSLSH /mQSXnwl3/F1k/eke6Gra3435jAOkbL7tEiGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Late3r6VjF5H+MCt+wV1ErU9HBdmyQA8CbrWTW8fT7pBaXogg+lImfpa5PE5YBkpku yfYimEtAUOV6kYL7NTcU1fxinZj6eCDWCliK0XqfI1VHdqlbK5s1BpqPvmL1rkSMkWuF 3i5nUID9zQgn8fFxMQWWQC1TCS1U0OXgZyCPM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.99.3 with SMTP id b3mr617257ybm.248.1233328721765; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:18:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4981E097.4060705@radel.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:18:41 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sendmail DNS strangeness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:43:27 -0000 2009/1/29 Jon Radel : > > Too much sanitation makes it hard to figure out your problem. However, > if that amnesiac.xxxx is actually amnesiac.com this probably relates to > the fact that DNS for amnesiac.com is horribly broken. > > dig +trace amnesiac.com > > should start you down the appropriate path. > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > Heh, yeah, sorry about the starring. Perhaps I was a bit tinfoil hat... Jan 29 16:03:19 amnesiac sm-mta[38492]: n0RM2Hlj021695: to=<[external email]>, ctladdr=<[user]@amnesiac.bayofrum.net> (80/80), delay=1+18:01:02, xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, pri=8221553, relay=mail2.ukrhosting.com. [91.196.0.5], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: 451 DNS temporary failure (#4.3.0) This should help narrow it down a bit. Glen, you're absolutely right about amnesiac being the default name, I forgot about configuration for a while, then decided I liked amnesiac anyway. So... it is set up properly with [chris@amnesiac]~% grep hostname /etc/rc.conf hostname="amnesiac.bayofrum.net" [chris@amnesiac]~% and hosts are right too. The problem is, that sendmail isn't having trouble finding me, it's having trouble finding the other host. It seems as though sendmail is ignoring my resolv.conf (set to nameserver 127.0.0.1) and using some other source for DNS that is broken. Any ideas from these hints? -- R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:43:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5EF106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD958FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:43:13 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0UFhBR5007992 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:43:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:43:11 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090130154311.GA7964@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2009 15:43:13.0988 (UTC) FILETIME=[76474040:01C982F1] Subject: gsasl 0.2.28_1 does not link in 7.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:43:30 -0000 Hello, Any idea about the problem below? Thx matthias # cd /usr/ports/security/gsasl # make ===> Building for gsasl-0.2.28_1 make all-recursive Making all in po Making all in gl make all-am Making all in lib make all-recursive Making all in po Making all in gl make all-am Making all in gltests make all-recursive Making all in external Making all in anonymous Making all in plain Making all in login Making all in cram-md5 Making all in digest-md5 Making all in ntlm Making all in gssapi Making all in securid Making all in src Making all in src make all-am /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -std=gnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -L/usr/local/lib -o gsasl gsasl.o gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o ../lib/src/libgsasl.la ../gl/libgl.la -lreadline -L/usr/local/lib -lgnutls -lz -L/usr/local/lib -lgcrypt -L/usr/local/lib -lgpg-error -L/usr/local/lib -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -R/usr/local/lib cc -std=gnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -o .libs/gsasl gsasl.o gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o -L/usr/local/lib ../lib/src/.libs/libgsasl.so -L/usr/lib /usr/local/lib/libntlm.so -lgssapi -lkrb5 -lasn1 -lcrypto -lroken -lcrypt -lcom_err ../gl/.libs/libgl.a -lreadline /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so -lz /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `init_error_table' /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `initialize_error_table_r' *** Error code 1 -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:47:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC957106571B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9BD8FC21 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so500600wfg.7 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:47:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pzSgvKAK7uWCc4k6ziGHVH5an86ymGpz7HsUHcxQ9pY=; b=rid/A1CC1mju4HBPlRpJxG6gdrRAUsIjRHHttZb/g0gXKjTGw/+1bx1Pon2GDRhFt3 bYjn9j8NNSeK+Kr0IC1lKPKZrAbCA0OLmVkIsf2+yL/BBLkIt8aD3JadS3HvJ7jDY9b7 mjQ8dzTf0q6TMTaJ7wDPtwqVEGfrUSY+FSSKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=twHf1fEtLFPQiwN8vKEAdW1Dc3k+VsgaAyGMXk4g3LwrxluvezXL0MnCljeWStfEfJ w5vrxrdEfrZJA9Dmd9yP6+BgCmWs7dL+Gt20VVYgTE5VPkdkQZBLBBSXz+gY7WrUp9KV 3l5g3UtJkLgRywrmzDzyX19Q3MQehgHZESbzs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.210.8 with SMTP id i8mr567717wfg.139.1233328610155; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:16:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4981E097.4060705@radel.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:16:50 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sendmail DNS strangeness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:47:32 -0000 2009/1/29 Jon Radel : > > Too much sanitation makes it hard to figure out your problem. However, > if that amnesiac.xxxx is actually amnesiac.com this probably relates to > the fact that DNS for amnesiac.com is horribly broken. > > dig +trace amnesiac.com > > should start you down the appropriate path. > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > Heh, yeah, sorry about the starring. Perhaps I was a bit tinfoil hat... Jan 29 16:03:19 amnesiac sm-mta[38492]: n0RM2Hlj021695: to=<[external email]>, ctladdr=<[user]@amnesiac.bayofrum.net> (80/80), delay=1+18:01:02, xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, pri=8221553, relay=mail2.ukrhosting.com. [91.196.0.5], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: 451 DNS temporary failure (#4.3.0) This should help narrow it down a bit. Glen, you're absolutely right about amnesiac being the default name, I forgot about configuration for a while, then decided I liked amnesiac anyway. So... it is set up properly with [chris@amnesiac]~% grep hostname /etc/rc.conf hostname="amnesiac.bayofrum.net" [chris@amnesiac]~% and hosts are right too. The problem is, that sendmail isn't having trouble finding me, it's having trouble finding the other host. It seems as though sendmail is ignoring my resolv.conf (set to nameserver 127.0.0.1) and using some other source for DNS that is broken. Any ideas from these hints? -- R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 15:55:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F641065672 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) Received: from worldmax.nl (mail.worldmax.nl [81.28.80.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945678FC1F for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.3959 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: normal Priority: normal Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:55:20 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs duringmountcritremote execution thread-index: AcmCXipkrzgq2lCLQG+oiAvdADEPQgAgNZdwAATV3VA= References: <200901291308.47418.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> From: "Arjan van der Oest" To: "Mel" , Cc: Subject: RE: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs duringmountcritremote execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:55:23 -0000 I've done some further investigation and this is what happens: The mountcritremote script executes "mount -a -t nfs" and times out. If this script is aborted, the NFS export is mounted later by the mountlate script with " mount -a -l", this succeeds. This is the reason that the export is mounted after sending ctrl-d, the initial mount never succeeds. >From what I can see now this is neither a firewall nor a NFS-version issue, else it would not succeed in the mountlate script. I'm still puzzled why on other boxes this is not a problem, while it is at this box. --=20 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, Worldmax Operations B.V. =20 =20 Arjan van der Oest Network Design Engineer =20 T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 =20 E.: arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl W.:www.worldmax.nl W.:www.aerea.nl GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78) fingerprint: 2E9F 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arjan van der Oest Sent: vrijdag 30 januari 2009 14:36 To: Mel; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs duringmountcritremote execution Mel wrote: >> - why does the system tries to mount the nfs filesystem from the fstab >> while nfs_client_enable has been set to no in rc.conf? >Because there is no relation between the two. You could be using a 3rd >party nfs kernel module. Yes, but I am not. I'm using the default kernel option which I believe is enabled with the mentioned rc.conf switch, or am I wrong here? >> And more bizarre: when interrupting the=20 >> mountcritremote script the share has been actually mounted, so it seems >> the 'mount -a -t nfs' command has actually been executed successfully. > >Looks more like the server is not sending a "success" message or it got >lost in transit. If this is 100% reproducable, look into compatibility=20 >issues, by scaling down the NFS version for the mount and check firewall >rules on both ends. Firewall has been disabled and seems not the problem, since (even with the firewall enabled) the manual mount works fine. In case of fw problems this would be a problem too. Also what puzzles me is the fact that a new identical setup box has no problem. As I wrote earlier the only difference is that I did not select the 'enable nfs client' from the sysinstall this time. I have not used any of the mentioned flags on the second box too, so why does it work on that machine? --=20 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind Regards, Worldmax Operations B.V. =20 Arjan van der Oest Network Design Engineer T.: +31 (0) 88 001 7912 F.: +31 (0) 88 001 7902 M.: +31 (0) 6 10 62 58 46 =20 E.: arjan.van.der.oest@worldmax.nl W.:www.worldmax.nl W.:www.aerea.nl GPG: https://keyserver.pgp.com/ (Key ID: 07286F78, fingerprint: 2E9F 3AE2 0A8B 7579 75A9 169F 5D9E 5312 0728 6F78) Internet communications are not secure; therefore, the integrity of this e-mail cannot be guaranteed following transmission on the Internet. This e-mail may contain confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail. Use of this e-mail by any person other than the addressee is strictly forbidden. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 16:04:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8B81065676 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from William@futurecis.com) Received: from mail1.futurecis.com (static-72-66-123-22.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.123.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7318FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from William@futurecis.com) Received: (qmail 92584 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2009 16:05:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.100]) ([10.0.0.100]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.futurecis.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jan 2009 16:05:48 -0000 Message-ID: <49832523.60402@futurecis.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:04:51 -0500 From: William Bentley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Perl5.8 Won't Build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:04:45 -0000 Hey All, Trying to build Perl5.8 and keep getting error messages about the makefile. This is a new installation under AMD64 7.1Release inside of a jail. Already did a make clean and portsnap. I already wrote to the lang mailing list as well to no avail as of yet. Any ideas appreciated. Here is the output. #make ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for perl-5.8.9 ===> Extracting for perl-5.8.9 => MD5 Checksum OK for perl/perl-5.8.9.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for perl/perl-5.8.9.tar.bz2. => MD5 Checksum OK for perl/BSDPAN-5.8.9.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for perl/BSDPAN-5.8.9.tar.bz2. => MD5 Checksum OK for perl/defined-or-5.8.9.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for perl/defined-or-5.8.9.bz2. ===> Patching for perl-5.8.9 ===> Applying distribution patches for perl-5.8.9 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for perl-5.8.9 /usr/bin/sed -e 's|%%PREFIX%%|/usr/local|g;' -e 's|%%PERL_VER%%|5.8.9|g;' -e 's|%%PERL_VERSION%%|5.8.9|g;' -e 's|%%PERL_ARCH%%|mach|g;' -e 's|%%MAKE_CONF%%|/etc/make.conf|g;' /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/files/use.perl > /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/bin/sed -e 's|%%PERL%%|/usr/local/bin/perl|g;' /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/files/perl-after-upgrade > /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-after-upgrade /bin/cp /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/pkg-install /bin/cp /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/pkg-deinstall /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|%%PTHREAD_LIBS%%||g;' -e 's|%%PTHREAD_CFLAGS%%||g;' /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.9/hints/freebsd.sh ===> Configuring for perl-5.8.9 First let's make sure your kit is complete. Checking... Locating common programs... Checking compatibility between /bin/echo and builtin echo (if any)... Symbolic links are supported. Checking how to test for symbolic links... You can test for symbolic links with 'test -h'. Good, your tr supports [:lower:] and [:upper:] to convert case. Using [:upper:] and [:lower:] to convert case. 3b1 catamount dynixptx i386 machten next_3 qnx sunos_4_0 unisysdynix aix convexos epix interix machten_2 next_3_0 rhapsody sunos_4_1 utekv aix_3 cxux esix4 irix_4 midnightbsd next_4 riscos super-ux uts aix_4 cygwin fps irix_5 mint nonstopux sco svr4 uwin altos486 darwin freebsd irix_6 mips openbsd sco_2_3_0 svr5 vmesa amigaos dcosx genix irix_6_0 mirbsd opus sco_2_3_1 ti1500 vos apollo dec_osf gnu irix_6_1 mpc os2 sco_2_3_2 titanos atheos dgux gnukfreebsd isc mpeix os390 sco_2_3_3 ultrix_4 aux_3 dos_djgpp gnuknetbsd isc_2 ncr_tower os400 sco_2_3_4 umips beos dragonfly greenhills linux netbsd posix-bc solaris_2 unicos bsdos dynix hpux lynxos newsos4 powerux stellar unicosmk Which of these apply, if any? [freebsd] ./hints/freebsd.sh: /usr/bin/objformat: not found Some users have reported that Configure halts when testing for the O_NONBLOCK symbol with a syntax error. This is apparently a sh error. Rerunning Configure with ksh apparently fixes the problem. Try ksh Configure [your options] Operating system name? [freebsd] Operating system version? [7.1-release] Installation prefix to use? (~name ok) [/usr/local] AFS does not seem to be running... What installation prefix should I use for installing files? (~name ok) [/usr/local] Build Perl for SOCKS? [n] Use the PerlIO abstraction layer? [y] Getting the current patchlevel... Build a threading Perl? [n] Build Perl for multiplicity? [n] Use which C compiler? [cc] Checking for GNU cc in disguise and/or its version number... Now, how can we feed standard input to your C preprocessor... Directories to use for library searches? [/usr/lib /usr/local/lib] What is the file extension used for shared libraries? [so] Try to use long doubles if available? [n] Checking for optional libraries... What libraries to use? [-lm -lcrypt -lutil] What optimizer/debugger flag should be used? [-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe] Any additional cc flags? [-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include] Let me guess what the preprocessor flags are... Any additional ld flags (NOT including libraries)? [ -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib] Checking your choice of C compiler and flags for coherency... Computing filename position in cpp output for #include directives... found. Checking to see how big your integers are... Checking to see if you have long long... Checking to see how big your long longs are... found. Checking to see if you have int64_t... Checking which 64-bit integer type we could use... We could use 'long' for 64-bit integers. Try to use maximal 64-bit support, if available? [y] Checking to see how big your double precision numbers are... Checking to see if you have long double... Checking to see how big your long doubles are... What is your architecture name [amd64-freebsd] This architecture is naturally 64-bit, not changing architecture name. Perlio selected. Pathname where the public executables will reside? (~name ok) [/usr/local/bin] Use relocatable @INC? [n] Pathname where the private library files will reside? (~name ok) [/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9] Where do you want to put the public architecture-dependent libraries? (~name ok) [/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach] Other username to test security of setuid scripts with? [none] I'll assume setuid scripts are *not* secure. Does your kernel have *secure* setuid scripts? [n] Do you want to do setuid/setgid emulation? [n] Installation prefix to use for add-on modules and utilities? (~name ok) [/usr/local] Pathname for the site-specific library files? (~name ok) [/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9] List of earlier versions to include in @INC? [none] NOT found. Checking to see how well your C compiler groks the void type... Good. It appears to support void to the level perl5 wants. Checking to see how big your pointers are... Do you wish to wrap malloc calls to protect against potential overflows? [y] Do you wish to attempt to use the malloc that comes with perl5? [y] Your system wants malloc to return 'void *', it would seem. Your system uses void free(), it would seem. Pathname for the site-specific architecture-dependent library files? (~name ok) [/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach] Do you want to configure vendor-specific add-on directories? [n] Colon-separated list of additional directories for perl to search? [none] Checking out function prototypes... Install any extra modules (y or n)? [n] Directory for the main Perl5 html pages? (~name ok) [none] Directory for the Perl5 module html pages? (~name ok) [none] Do you want to install perl as /usr/bin/perl? [n] Checking for GNU C Library... Shall I use /usr/bin/nm to extract C symbols from the libraries? [n] NOT found. Checking for C++... dlopen() found. found. Do you wish to use dynamic loading? [y] Source file to use for dynamic loading [ext/DynaLoader/dl_dlopen.xs] Any special flags to pass to cc -c to compile shared library modules? [-DPIC -fPIC] What command should be used to create dynamic libraries? [cc] Any special flags to pass to cc to create a dynamically loaded library? [-shared -L/usr/local/lib] Any special flags to pass to cc to use dynamic linking? [none] Build a shared libperl.so (y/n) [y] What name do you want to give to the shared libperl? [libperl.so] Adding -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach/CORE to the flags passed to cc so that the perl executable will find the installed shared libperl.so. System manual is in /usr/share/man/man1. Where do the main Perl5 manual pages (source) go? (~name ok) [/usr/local/man/man1] What suffix should be used for the main Perl5 man pages? [1] You can have filenames longer than 14 characters. Where do the perl5 library man pages (source) go? (~name ok) [/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/perl/man/man3] What suffix should be used for the perl5 library man pages? [3] Figuring out host name... Your host name appears to be "p1.futurecis.com". Right? [y] What is your domain name? [.futurecis.com] What is your e-mail address? [wbentley@p1.futurecis.com] Perl administrator e-mail address [wbentley@p1.futurecis.com] Do you want to install only the version-specific parts of perl? [n] What shall I put after the #! to start up perl ("none" to not use #!)? [/usr/local/bin/perl] Where do you keep publicly executable scripts? (~name ok) [/usr/local/bin] Pathname where the add-on public executables should be installed? (~name ok) [/usr/local/bin] Pathname where the site-specific html pages should be installed? (~name ok) [none] Pathname where the site-specific library html pages should be installed? (~name ok) [none] Pathname where the site-specific manual pages should be installed? (~name ok) [/usr/local/man/man1] Pathname where the site-specific library manual pages should be installed? (~name ok) [/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/man/man3] Pathname where add-on public executable scripts should be installed? (~name ok) [/usr/local/bin] Use the "fast stdio" if available? [y] off_t found. Checking to see how big your file offsets are... fpos_t found. Checking the size of fpos_t... Using instead of . qgcvt() NOT found. Checking how to print long doubles... gconvert NOT found. gcvt NOT found. sprintf() found. I'll use sprintf to convert floats into a string. fwalk() NOT found. access() found. defines the *_OK access constants. accessx() NOT found. aintl() NOT found. alarm() found. found. found. found. Testing to see if we should include , or both. We'll include . Checking to see if your struct tm has tm_zone field... Checking to see if your struct tm has tm_gmtoff field... asctime_r() found. atolf() NOT found. atoll() found. Checking whether your compiler can handle __attribute__((format)) ... Checking whether your compiler can handle __attribute__((malloc)) ... Checking whether your compiler can handle __attribute__((nonnull(1))) ... Checking whether your compiler can handle __attribute__((noreturn)) ... Checking whether your compiler can handle __attribute__((pure)) ... Checking whether your compiler can handle __attribute__((unused)) ... Checking whether your compiler can handle __attribute__((warn_unused_result)) ... bcmp() found. bcopy() found. getpgrp() found. You have to use getpgrp() instead of getpgrp(pid). setpgrp() found. You have to use setpgrp(pid,pgrp) instead of setpgrp(). Checking whether your compiler can handle __builtin_choose_expr ... Checking whether your compiler can handle __builtin_expect ... bzero() found. found. found. We'll include to get va_dcl definition. You have and , so checking for C99 variadic macros. You have C99 variadic macros. You have void (*signal())(). Checking whether your C compiler can cast large floats to int32. Checking whether your C compiler can cast negative float to unsigned. vprintf() found. Your vsprintf() returns (int). chown() found. chroot() found. chsize() NOT found. class() NOT found. clearenv() NOT found. Hmm... Looks like you have Berkeley networking support. socketpair() found. Checking the availability of certain socket constants... found. Checking to see if your system supports struct cmsghdr... Checking to see if your C compiler knows about "const"... copysignl() found. crypt() found. NOT found. crypt_r() NOT found. ctermid() found. ctermid_r() found. ctime_r() found. cuserid() NOT found. found. found. DBL_DIG found. dbmclose() NOT found. difftime() found. found. Your directory entries are struct dirent. Good, your directory entry keeps length information in d_namlen. Checking to see if DIR has a dd_fd member variable found. NOT found. dirfd() found. dlerror() found. found. What is the extension of dynamically loaded modules [so] Checking whether your dlsym() needs a leading underscore ... dlsym doesn't need a leading underscore. drand48_r() NOT found. dup2() found. eaccess() found. endgrent() found. found. endgrent_r() NOT found. endhostent() found. found. endhostent_r() NOT found. endnetent() found. endnetent_r() NOT found. endprotoent() found. endprotoent_r() NOT found. endpwent() found. found. endpwent_r() NOT found. endservent() found. endservent_r() NOT found. defines the O_* constants... and you have the 3 argument form of open(). found. We'll be including . found. We don't need to include if we include . fork() found. pipe() found. Figuring out the flag used by open() for non-blocking I/O... Let's see what value errno gets from read() on a O_NONBLOCK file... Checking how std your stdio is... Checking to see what happens if we set the stdio ptr... Increasing ptr in your stdio leaves cnt unchanged. Good. You seem to have 'fast stdio' to directly manipulate the stdio buffers. fchdir() found. fchmod() found. fchown() found. fcntl() found. Well, your system knows about the normal fd_set typedef... and you have the normal fd_set macros (just as I'd expect). fgetpos() found. finite() found. finitel() NOT found. flock() found. fp_class() NOT found. pathconf() found. fpathconf() found. fpclass() NOT found. fpclassify() NOT found. fpclassl() NOT found. Checking to see if you have fpos64_t... frexpl() found. found. found. Checking to see if your system supports struct fs_data... fseeko() found. fsetpos() found. fstatfs() found. statvfs() found. fstatvfs() found. fsync() found. ftello() found. Checking if you have a working futimes() Yes, you have getcwd() found. getespwnam() NOT found. getfsstat() found. getgrent() found. getgrent_r() found. getgrgid_r() found. getgrnam_r() found. gethostbyaddr() found. gethostbyname() found. gethostent() found. gethostname() found. uname() found. Shall I ignore gethostname() from now on? [n] gethostbyaddr_r() found. gethostbyname_r() found. gethostent_r() found. getitimer() found. getlogin() found. getlogin_r() found. getmnt() NOT found. getmntent() NOT found. getnetbyaddr() found. getnetbyname() found. getnetent() found. getnetbyaddr_r() found. getnetbyname_r() found. getnetent_r() found. getpagesize() found. getprotobyname() found. getprotobynumber() found. getprotoent() found. getpgid() found. getpgrp2() NOT found. getppid() found. getpriority() found. getprotobyname_r() found. getprotobynumber_r() found. getprotoent_r() found. getprpwnam() NOT found. getpwent() found. getpwent_r() found. getpwnam_r() found. getpwuid_r() found. getservbyname() found. getservbyport() found. getservent() found. getservbyname_r() found. getservbyport_r() found. getservent_r() found. getspnam() NOT found. NOT found. getspnam_r() NOT found. gettimeofday() found. gmtime_r() found. hasmntopt() NOT found. found. found. htonl() found. ilogbl() found. strchr() found. inet_aton() found. isascii() found. isfinite() NOT found. isinf() found. isnan() found. isnanl() NOT found. killpg() found. lchown() found. LDBL_DIG found. found. Checking to see if your libm supports _LIB_VERSION... No, it does not (probably harmless) link() found. localtime_r() found. localeconv() found. lockf() found. lstat() found. madvise() found. malloc_size() NOT found. malloc_good_size() NOT found. mblen() found. mbstowcs() found. mbtowc() found. memchr() found. memcmp() found. memcpy() found. memmove() found. memset() found. mkdir() found. mkdtemp() found. mkfifo() found. mkstemp() found. mkstemps() found. mktime() found. found. mmap() found. and it returns (void *). sqrtl() NOT found. scalbnl() found. modfl() found. Your modfl() seems okay for large values. mprotect() found. msgctl() found. msgget() found. msgsnd() found. msgrcv() found. You have the full msg*(2) library. Checking to see if your system supports struct msghdr... msync() found. munmap() found. nice() found. found. nl_langinfo() found. Checking to see if your C compiler knows about "volatile"... Choosing the C types to be used for Perl's internal types... Checking how many bits of your UVs your NVs can preserve... Checking whether NV 0.0 is all bits zero in memory... 0.0 is represented as all bits zero in memory Checking to see if you have off64_t... pause() found. poll() found. readlink() found. vfork() found. Do you still want to use vfork()? [y] pthread_attr_setscope() found. random_r() NOT found. readdir() found. seekdir() found. telldir() found. rewinddir() found. readdir64_r() NOT found. readdir_r() found. readv() found. recvmsg() found. rename() found. rmdir() found. found. Checking if your memcmp() can compare relative magnitude... select() found. semctl() found. semget() found. semop() found. You have the full sem*(2) library. You have union semun in . You can use union semun for semctl IPC_STAT. You can also use struct semid_ds* for semctl IPC_STAT. sendmsg() found. setegid() found. seteuid() found. setgrent() found. setgrent_r() NOT found. sethostent() found. sethostent_r() NOT found. setitimer() found. setlinebuf() found. setlocale() found. found. setlocale_r() NOT found. setnetent() found. setnetent_r() NOT found. setprotoent() found. setpgid() found. setpgrp2() NOT found. setpriority() found. setproctitle() found. setprotoent_r() NOT found. setpwent() found. setpwent_r() NOT found. setregid() found. setresgid() found. setreuid() found. setresuid() found. setrgid() found. setruid() found. setservent() found. setservent_r() NOT found. setsid() found. setvbuf() found. NOT found. shmctl() found. shmget() found. shmat() found. and it returns (void *). shmdt() found. You have the full shm*(2) library. sigaction() found. NOT found. Checking to see if you have signbit() available to work on double... Yes. sigprocmask() found. POSIX sigsetjmp found. snprintf() found. vsnprintf() found. sockatmark() found. socks5_init() NOT found. Checking whether sprintf returns the length of the string... sprintf returns the length of the string (as ANSI says it should) srand48_r() NOT found. srandom_r() NOT found. found. Checking to see if your struct stat has st_blocks field... NOT found. NOT found. Checking to see if your system supports struct statfs... Checking to see if your struct statfs has f_flags field... Checking how to access stdio streams by file descriptor number... I can't figure out how to access stdio streams by file descriptor number. strcoll() found. Checking to see if your C compiler can copy structs... strerror() found. strerror_r() found. strftime() found. strlcat() found. strlcpy() found. strtod() found. strtol() found. strtold() found. strtoll() found. strtoq() found. strtoul() found. strtoull() found. strtouq() found. strxfrm() found. symlink() found. syscall() found. sysconf() found. system() found. tcgetpgrp() found. tcsetpgrp() found. time() found. time_t found. found. times() found. clock_t found. tmpnam_r() NOT found. truncate() found. ttyname_r() found. tzname[] found. (Testing for character data alignment may crash the test. That's okay.) It seems that you must access character data in an aligned manner. ualarm() found. umask() found. unordered() NOT found. unsetenv() found. usleep() found. ustat() NOT found. closedir() found. Checking whether closedir() returns a status... wait4() found. waitpid() found. wcstombs() found. wctomb() found. writev() found. Checking alignment constraints... Doubles must be aligned on a how-many-byte boundary? [8] Checking to see how your cpp does stuff like concatenate tokens... Oh! Smells like ANSI's been here. found. Checking Berkeley DB version ... Looks OK. Checking return type needed for hash for Berkeley DB ... Checking return type needed for prefix for Berkeley DB ... Looking for a random number function... Good, found drand48(). Use which function to generate random numbers? [drand48] Determining whether or not we are on an EBCDIC system... Nope, no EBCDIC, probably ASCII or some ISO Latin. Or UTF-8. Checking how to flush all pending stdio output... Your fflush(NULL) works okay for output streams. Let's see if it clobbers input pipes... fflush(NULL) seems to behave okay with input streams. Checking the size of gid_t... Checking the sign of gid_t... Checking how to print 64-bit integers... Checking the format strings to be used for Perl's internal types... Checking the format string to be used for gids... getgroups() found. setgroups() found. What type pointer is the second argument to getgroups() and setgroups()? [gid_t] Checking if your /usr/bin/make program sets $(MAKE)... mode_t found. Bus error (core dumped) It seems that va_copy() or similar will be needed. size_t found. What is the type for the 1st argument to gethostbyaddr? [char *] What is the type for the 2nd argument to gethostbyaddr? [size_t] What pager is used on your system? [/usr/bin/less] pid_t found. Checking how to generate random libraries on your machine... Your select() operates on 64 bits at a time. Generating a list of signal names and numbers... Checking the size of size_t... Checking to see if you have socklen_t... NOT found. I'll be using ssize_t for functions returning a byte count. Your stdio uses signed chars. Checking the size of uid_t... Checking the sign of uid_t... Checking the format string to be used for uids... Which compiler compiler (byacc or yacc) shall I use? [/usr/bin/byacc] NOT found. NOT found. NOT found. found. found. NOT found. found. dbm_open() found. NOT found. found. found. NOT found. Guessing which symbols your C compiler and preprocessor define... tcsetattr() found. You have POSIX termios.h... good! found. NOT found. found. found. You have socket ioctls defined in . found. NOT found. found. NOT found. found. found. found. found. NOT found. found. NOT found. NOT found. Looking for extensions... What extensions do you wish to load dynamically? [B ByteLoader Cwd DB_File Data/Dumper Devel/DProf Devel/PPPort Devel/Peek Digest/MD5 Encode Fcntl File/Glob Filter/Util/Call Hash/Util I18N/Langinfo IO IPC/SysV List/Util MIME/Base64 NDBM_File Opcode POSIX PerlIO/encoding PerlIO/scalar PerlIO/via SDBM_File Socket Storable Sys/Hostname Sys/Syslog Text/Soundex Time/HiRes Unicode/Normalize XS/APItest XS/Typemap attrs re threads threads/shared] What extensions do you wish to load statically? [none] Stripping down executable paths... Creating config.sh... Doing variable substitutions on .SH files... Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Not re-extracting config.h Extracting makeaperl (with variable substitutions) Extracting makedepend (with variable substitutions) Extracting makedir (with variable substitutions) Extracting Makefile (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) Extracting pod/Makefile (with variable substitutions) Extracting Policy.sh (with variable substitutions) Extracting utils/Makefile (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting x2p/cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting x2p/Makefile (with variable substitutions) Configure done. If you compile perl5 on a different machine or from a different object directory, copy the Policy.sh file from this object directory to the new one before you run Configure -- this will help you with most of the policy defaults. ===> Building for perl-5.8.9 make: cannot open makefile. *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 16:08:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D009106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3D78FC24 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 X-RZG-AUTH: :LWgJfE6Id/4Sm/WkdV0gEbKL+/p/UjmosA/b4BPf1Ida/LA6f2WjvdsA Received: from athena.laverenz.de (77-22-194-90-dynip.superkabel.de [77.22.194.90]) by post.strato.de (fruni mo21) (RZmta 18.15) with ESMTP id 60627fl0UFxfAM for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:08:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69A1127BF0 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:07:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15712-01 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:07:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 752DF127BF1; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:07:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:07:50 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090130160750.GA15557@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:08:59 -0000 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 04:03:10PM +0100, Klaus Friis Østergaard wrote: > I tried to remove the directories that was not removed by deinstall > manually, and then installed again, now no complaints about not being > able to uninstall I can now start gdm again, with out any complaints, > but when I run sockstat I cannot see gdm-binary active nor any listen > on udp 177. > > Any suggestions? GDM 2.24 ist broken, not only on FreeBSD but also on other systems like Fedora. My personal workaround ist to keep using 2.20 for now, which seems to be the last working version that came from the gnome team. There is a thread about this at the freebsd-gnome mailing list. Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 16:09:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FB7106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBE38FC27 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LSvvg-0001bI-68>; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:09:16 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LSvvg-0000s2-51>; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:09:16 +0100 Message-ID: <498325AD.3060200@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:07:09 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: How to force usage of pcm1 instead of pcm0 (HDA audio hardware two time present) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:09:18 -0000 Hello, since I have a AMD/ATI HDMI-capable graphics hardware my onboard sound hardware (HDA) gets recogniced as pcm1-3, the HDA capable digital device onboard the graphics adaptor is numberd pcm0. How can I force the OS (FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE) to number the on-graphics-HDA device as the last one found? Thanks, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 16:41:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD25106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222E68FC22 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k32so373714rnd.12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:41:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JG4AyNuhjhA9EWvdoDrPg/wqOnfgOTm2ClpYlansFfg=; b=uPF87jT4LMAPWswnDU4Z7FcQWb20yf2Yax+LJ0mwNnJxIpbnNTh/j2lDVlhnLyYOBf AuZY6B/TKX8EnZHdgVXTw9mCixviNBHkur0ZxIpH/51D92O0nLlzBLGd+wA4z+HjF9Fz oxUhH4J82cHqYjIF1VctE17Y/7f3mP2fDIHug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wui/w3i92D2igqd/nV8+c4Oe94/cB4yieciCVWC/lhXLy5pSPhqIfPtE5uHTw92SE6 lQ+R7/r8gNh2axa/JiHp4kfPiVkP56Ku1QlXcq9P+nwzsFBcvrB5p+tCnDhuNoZZlAq5 HkWEtrVJuJNl4ljpW6E+ArRKB1OqrA4UaeSJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.150.19 with SMTP id x19mr494635ybd.95.1233331793162; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:09:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4981E097.4060705@radel.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:09:53 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sendmail DNS strangeness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:41:52 -0000 2009/1/30 Chris Rees : > 2009/1/29 Jon Radel : >> >> Too much sanitation makes it hard to figure out your problem. However, >> if that amnesiac.xxxx is actually amnesiac.com this probably relates to >> the fact that DNS for amnesiac.com is horribly broken. >> >> dig +trace amnesiac.com >> >> should start you down the appropriate path. >> >> --Jon Radel >> jon@radel.com >> > > Heh, yeah, sorry about the starring. Perhaps I was a bit tinfoil hat... > > Jan 29 16:03:19 amnesiac sm-mta[38492]: n0RM2Hlj021695: to=<[external email]>, > ctladdr=<[user]@amnesiac.bayofrum.net> (80/80), delay=1+18:01:02, > xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, pri=8221553, > relay=mail2.ukrhosting.com. [91.196.0.5], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: > 451 DNS temporary failure (#4.3.0) > > This should help narrow it down a bit. > > Glen, you're absolutely right about amnesiac being the default name, I > forgot about configuration for a while, then decided I liked amnesiac > anyway. So... it is set up properly with > > [chris@amnesiac]~% grep hostname /etc/rc.conf > hostname="amnesiac.bayofrum.net" > [chris@amnesiac]~% > > and hosts are right too. > > The problem is, that sendmail isn't having trouble finding me, it's > having trouble finding the other host. It seems as though sendmail is > ignoring my resolv.conf (set to nameserver 127.0.0.1) and using some > other source for DNS that is broken. > > Any ideas from these hints? > > -- OK, now I feel stupid. It turns out the destination email addresses were bogus, and I should have trusted my system was working correctly instead of blaming it. Some spammer was attacking my forum software, registering users with strange email addresses. Never mind, I'll just up the complication on the CAPTCHA. That should stop the buggers Thanks for your help Jon and Glen Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:15:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555A4106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160B58FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94FA284DF for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:15:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.2 (20081215) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id airbZKwC2znJ for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:15:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.234] (unknown [196.216.54.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: grego03) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C08CE2852C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:15:44 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: bsd To: Liste FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:15:33 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: APC PowerChute on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:15:49 -0000 Hello, I am trying to see if someone has already configured an APC PowerChute =20= software on FreeBSD. There is a linux version, I was just wondering how to set It up on BSD =20= and if anyone has successfully installed such soft=85 I have installed a BSD box in Angola in unstable electrical =20 conditions, and I am afraid the server will be rebooted the "hard way" =20= quite often (without any warning) if I don't use this kind of soft=85 Thanks for your help. =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:18:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17AE1065695 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D0A8FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jan 2009 12:18:19 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18819.13914.587572.542919@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:18:18 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid Cc: Subject: USB problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:18:20 -0000 On a machine running: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009 i386 one of the USB hubs has decided not to play nice with others. There are device attached to this hub, but none in use. Is it possible to "reset" the hub and all downstream devices, hopefully to be re-scanned, recognized and re-attached? (It looks like "usbconfig" might be the right tool ... but the documentation has no examples and I don't want to make things worse.) Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:21:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2718D1065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from mail1.hostpark.net (mail1.hostpark.net [212.243.197.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A762F8FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFFA81371; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:01:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Received: from mail1.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id kThr3ctVRehB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:01:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (43-140.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.79.140.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4218C814BC; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:01:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0UHK0oo089941; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:20:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0UHK0Gd089940; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:20:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:20:00 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090130172000.GA89911@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: Strange messages in /var/log/messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:21:04 -0000 Hello My system: FreeBSD firewall.acutronic.ch 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #1: Fri Dec 12 15:35:05 CET 2008 martin@firewall.acutronic.ch:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD_AMD64 amd64 My individual kernel file: [snip] # Firewall options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=5 options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT options DUMMYNET options HZ=1000 # strongly recommended [snip] Since I have the above options I get the following messages in my /var/log/messages: [snip] Jan 30 17:54:45 firewall kernel: c Jan 30 17:54:46 firewall kernel: 0 Jan 30 17:54:57 firewall kernel: w Jan 30 17:54:57 firewall kernel: . Jan 30 17:55:53 firewall kernel: c Jan 30 17:55:53 firewall kernel: C Jan 30 17:55:53 firewall kernel: A Jan 30 17:55:57 firewall kernel: i Jan 30 17:55:57 firewall kernel: 9 Jan 30 17:56:29 firewall kernel: Jan 30 17:56:29 firewall kernel: 2 Jan 30 17:56:29 firewall kernel: 5 Jan 30 17:56:41 firewall kernel: 6 Jan 30 17:56:41 firewall kernel: Jan 30 17:56:41 firewall kernel: 6 Jan 30 17:56:44 firewall kernel: 9 Jan 30 17:56:44 firewall kernel: Jan 30 17:56:44 firewall kernel: . Jan 30 17:56:45 firewall kernel: e Jan 30 17:56:45 firewall kernel: Jan 30 17:56:45 firewall kernel: A Jan 30 17:57:01 firewall kernel: e Jan 30 17:57:01 firewall kernel: t Jan 30 17:57:01 firewall kernel: Jan 30 17:57:02 firewall kernel: 0 Jan 30 17:57:02 firewall kernel: . [snip] Any ideas? Kind regards, -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:22:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E431065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A5A8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so1102419ewy.19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:22:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fIyOnDRJb5BPER5f61ZgQ6gYbXLDYaxr/VK3NeH/meU=; b=bZx+FDPkkevzeyao0GUzQ45baTKZ1GCcjT2BXbaUOnLpAZdJcSq7O2PlEc/lekwdcb i/UzPQG5dIBIHa/CelaKJr6zpkwkFsme/0YOuAbGHa4OEUiSDJydxZMhvhgDDT4hNxeo O5TknW0IdmFXbpxVXUTuD3DDmWMm8wgdMJS9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xoVojezALN2klTMk3yOMH/R/9ywitW5gDEBhqNoYZJ9BmwMl8/7zNeaXk475cgmfjb JWc16/wmZkTIfUSVNjZIGiFwbu0bVKtTF4YZYyDx9H1XEV0V6/bIUS9jo7QXPwH344dr OQOzgsr+Lt0FNTb0jdY/l9ahhhh+vnr+4lJT0= Received: by 10.210.59.14 with SMTP id h14mr1639098eba.36.1233336152963; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4565250.home.otenet.gr [94.70.117.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h1sm2423848nfh.23.2009.01.30.09.22.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:22:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49833756.5050807@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:22:30 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: APC PowerChute on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:22:34 -0000 bsd wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to see if someone has already configured an APC PowerChute > software on FreeBSD. > > There is a linux version, I was just wondering how to set It up on BSD > and if anyone has successfully installed such soft… > > I have installed a BSD box in Angola in unstable electrical > conditions, and I am afraid the server will be rebooted the "hard way" > quite often (without any warning) if I don't use this kind of soft… > > > > Thanks for your help. > Use the sysutils/apcupsd port. I am using it on all my FreeBSD servers (and linux boxes actually) and never had any problems. Works with both USB and serial models. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:30:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B2D106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9160A8FC1F for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0UHUpud022172; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:30:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0UHUp6x022169; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:30:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:30:51 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Ewald Jenisch In-Reply-To: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> Message-ID: References: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:30:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:30:53 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > I'm using the "radeonhd" driver for my graphics card is a ATI Radeon > HD 2400 XT (RV610 chipset). A note on that: radeonhd hasn't been particularly functional on the cards I've tried. The radeon driver seems to be more solid, and will work on that card. > o) Are the above settings (i.e. AllowEmptyInput and the sections for > keyboard/mouse) correct for my combination of hald and moused running? If that's all you have in ServerFlags, remove that section and just put the entry in ServerLayout. Others have mentioned using Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" instead of AllowEmptyInput. With hald and moused enabled, that works fine here. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:37:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E54F106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from mail1.hostpark.net (mail1.hostpark.net [212.243.197.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB3A8FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE6B81206; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:09:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Received: from mail1.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id lE0Ur-FbfXh2; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:09:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (43-140.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.79.140.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D96810D0; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:09:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0UHSi17090013; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:28:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0UHSiIL090008; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:28:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:28:44 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090130172843.GB89911@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: Using Serial Port Other Than sio0 for the Console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:45 -0000 Hello I want to use sio1 for console access. I read chapter 26.6 in the handbook and did the following: /boot.config: -P /boot/device.hints: [snip] hint.sio.0.at="isa" hint.sio.0.port="0x3F8" ### hint.sio.0.flags="0x10" hint.sio.0.irq="4" hint.sio.1.at="isa" hint.sio.1.port="0x2F8" hint.sio.1.flags="0x10" hint.sio.1.irq="3" [snip] My custom kernel: [snip] device sio [snip] /var/run/dmesg.boot: [snip] sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A, console sio1: [FILTER] [snip] /etc/ttys: [snip] ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure [snip] The baud rate etc. are correct as well (the standard settings). The problem is I get no connection. I'm sure that my terminal works correct because I can connect other FreeBSD sever over the serial cable but not the above. Any ideas? Kind regards, -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 17:45:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C02106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcurley@MIT.EDU) Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690118FC08 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcurley@MIT.EDU) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id n0UHZG51025609; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (c-71-232-50-230.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [71.232.50.230]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jcurley@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id n0UHZFMm025367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:35:16 -0500 (EST) From: Curley To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:33:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301233.07305.jcurley@mit.edu> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.00 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 7.1: iwi problem with intel 2200 pro wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:46:00 -0000 Dear FreeBSD-questions Group, I recently installed freeBSD 7.1 on an IBM Thinkpad T42 (types 2378). The system will not connect to the internet wirelessly using the Intel 2200 pro wireless card. The problem is described in the following and some relevent files (/var/log/messages, /var/run/dmesg.boot, /boot/loader.conf) are pasted below my signature. Thanks in advance for any help configuring this feature. When I attempt to connect to the internet using the 'ifconfig iwi0 up scan' command the terminal gives no response and in /var/log/messages, 'iwi0: could not load main firmware iwi_bss' is given as an error. Ocassionally, after a system reboot the wireless card will connect to a local network. However attempting to change wireless networks causes the wireless to crash. Therefore, I do not think the problem is hardware based. Additionally, I have checked the hardware using Windows XP device manager (Windows XP is installed on a separated hard drive). The wireless works fine on Windows XP. I have looked through message boards without luck finding a solution for my system. Please let me know if this question ought to be sent elsewhere, I am a new user. Thanks again for taking the time to read this. Best Regards, John from /var/log/messages: (system response to the command "ifconfig iwi0 up scan") Jan 30 01:39:02 JohnsThinkpad kernel: iwi0: timeout processing command blocks for iwi_bss firmware Jan 30 01:39:02 JohnsThinkpad kernel: iwi0: could not load main firmware iwi_bss ------------------------------- from /var/run/dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC module_register: module uhub/umass already exists! Module uhub/umass failed to register: 17 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz (1498.74-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x695 Stepping = 5 Features=0xa7e9f9bf Features2=0x180 real memory = 2146828288 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2091171840 (1994 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0505): Optional field "Gpe1Block" has zero address or length: 0 102C/0 [20070320] acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: on hostb0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff,0xc0100000-0xc010ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 uhci0: port 0x1800-0x181f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xc0000000-0xc00003ff irq 11 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 cbb0: mem 0xb0000000-0xb0000fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb0: [ITHREAD] cbb1: mem 0xb1000000-0xb1000fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on pci2 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 cbb1: [ITHREAD] em0: port 0x8000-0x803f mem 0xc0220000-0xc023ffff,0xc0200000-0xc020ffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci2 em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:16:41:17:29:2d iwi0: mem 0xc0214000-0xc0214fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:35:4c:84:63 iwi0: [ITHREAD] isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1860-0x186f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x1c00-0x1cff,0x18c0-0x18ff mem 0xc0000c00-0xc0000dff,0xc0000800-0xc00008ff irq 11 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled battery0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_ibm0: on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xd1000-0xd1fff,0xdc000-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xeffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1498736135 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ------------------------------------------ from /boot/loader.conf: #IBM ACPI Config acpi_ibm_load="YES" #sound driver snd_ich_load="YES" #WiFI Config if_iwi_load="YES" wlan_load="YES" firmware_load="YES" iwi_bss_load="YES" iwi_ibss_load="YES" iwi_monitor_load="YES" legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 #USB FlashDrive umass_load="YES" -------------- output of dmesg | grep iwi: iwi0: mem 0xc0214000-0xc0214fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci2 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:35:4c:84:63 iwi0: [ITHREAD] ------------------ output of sysctl dev.iwi.0.radio: dev.iwi.0.radio: 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 18:23:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E024106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lonnelars@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206BB8FC12 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lonnelars@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so596123fka.11 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:23:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:23:15 -0000 Hi. I have recently install FreeBSD-7.1 on my laptop. The laptop used to have windows and linux, but I have replaced linux with FreeBSD because I thought it looked very promising. However, I have one problem: the wireless signal strength seems to be significantly weaker when I am running FreeBSD. On windows I can connect and get online, but when I'm running FreeBSD it keeps connecting and disconnecting, or not even seeing the network at all. Also in linux it was never a problem. Is there something that can be done with this? In linux I was using wireless-tools (iwconfig) and dhclient, which worked fine. Are there perhaps other software that will work better than using ifconfig? /lars From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 18:29:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1A0106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705C58FC14 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB57AAFBCCB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:29:35 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Schweizer Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:29:35 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090130172000.GA89911@saturn.pcs.ms> In-Reply-To: <20090130172000.GA89911@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901300929.35395.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Strange messages in /var/log/messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:29:36 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 08:20:00 Martin Schweizer wrote: > Jan 30 17:54:45 firewall kernel: c > Jan 30 17:54:46 firewall kernel: 0 > Jan 30 17:54:57 firewall kernel: w > Jan 30 17:54:57 firewall kernel: . > Jan 30 17:55:53 firewall kernel: c > Jan 30 17:55:53 firewall kernel: C > Jan 30 17:55:53 firewall kernel: A > Jan 30 17:55:57 firewall kernel: i > Jan 30 17:55:57 firewall kernel: 9 > Jan 30 17:56:29 firewall kernel: > Jan 30 17:56:29 firewall kernel: 2 > Jan 30 17:56:29 firewall kernel: 5 > Jan 30 17:56:41 firewall kernel: 6 > Jan 30 17:56:41 firewall kernel: > Jan 30 17:56:41 firewall kernel: 6 > Jan 30 17:56:44 firewall kernel: 9 > Jan 30 17:56:44 firewall kernel: > Jan 30 17:56:44 firewall kernel: . > Jan 30 17:56:45 firewall kernel: e > Jan 30 17:56:45 firewall kernel: > Jan 30 17:56:45 firewall kernel: A > Jan 30 17:57:01 firewall kernel: e > Jan 30 17:57:01 firewall kernel: t > Jan 30 17:57:01 firewall kernel: > Jan 30 17:57:02 firewall kernel: 0 > Jan 30 17:57:02 firewall kernel: . > [snip] Known problem on SMP systems, supposedly fixed in 7.1, but I don't use ipfw. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:04:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28810106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drcubi@yahoo.com) Received: from web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF8E28FC21 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drcubi@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 48559 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2009 18:37:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Cb27nptYJb0+uf7bWq8wYWcXso51kqK8agDm73rRQj0xlEB/EguSA4gg43hzwXSVGH8dotfDl8AfeUvi9Bl5bY1ja2h0Tpgt6mHiSwP/B+4cnzutr7tMb5gdukdySvAY6I3AYsJ5yJQegwZLhWzqvGQffZb36SYWmHNzyjVRixg=; X-YMail-OSG: J9YOeBcVM1kcBxQQEAS7m86iy7VbrIBA3mecfloIE8QfubSFWd6PMSOpJ71mNFAHIG36Ukkfwx15PLbDiqNMdwJWwWjQqVZ6D_Dw7anm.uOS.5n93oAOdYNFJDC.uwV2jQOpc3LLDliZuBmBwBHoncxwLriqdd1HOBEWWfJACr_dxiSXhMEUmblxEbjcJCZH15L0JMjlmBm2RYoStWIV7PniEEjYRXk- Received: from [96.48.153.3] by web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:37:19 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:37:19 -0800 (PST) From: "drcubi@yahoo.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: drcubi@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:04:00 -0000 I am using rsync and crontab to perform scheduled backups on FreeBSD AMD64 = Rel. 7.0 I am following process described here for rsync : http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/examples.html I have a backup script's created for daily, weekly, monthly. This is one example=A0 -=A0 the daily=A0 (/backup is a seperate physical dr= ive) : #daily backup script rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Access/ /backup/daily/Access rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Templates/ /backup/daily/Templates rsync -a --delete /usr/home/QBdata/ /backup/daily/QBdata rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception1/ /backup/daily/reception1 rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception2/ /backup/daily/reception2 rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception3/ /backup/daily/reception3 rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Files/ /backup/daily/Files All files created where chmod'd with +x, then I test the scripts by running= them manually and all three, daily, weekly & monthly work fine. FInal step, I add to root=A0crontab, by using : crontab -e=A0 I added following lines : 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 23=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 30=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 *=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 *=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 /usr/local/sbin/backup/monthly 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 21=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 *=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 *=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 /usr/local/sbin/backup/weekly 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 23=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 *=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 *=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 1-5=A0=A0=A0=A0 /usr/local/sbin/backup/daily crontab -l shows all is OK as well. But the scheduled backups never happen. I must be doing something wrong, bu= t can't figure out what. All help would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you, Darren =A0 =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:22:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44037106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55FE8FC14 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0UJM9j8027292; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:22:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F198BB853; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:22:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:22:08 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "drcubi@yahoo.com" Message-ID: <20090130192208.GA15415@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:22:11 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:37:19AM -0800, drcubi@yahoo.com wrote: > I am using rsync and crontab to perform scheduled backups on FreeBSD AMD6= 4 Rel. 7.0 > I am following process described here for rsync : > http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/examples.html >=20 > I have a backup script's created for daily, weekly, monthly. > This is one example=A0 -=A0 the daily=A0 (/backup is a seperate physical = drive) : >=20 > #daily backup script > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Access/ /backup/daily/Access > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Templates/ /backup/daily/Templates > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/QBdata/ /backup/daily/QBdata > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception1/ /backup/daily/reception1 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception2/ /backup/daily/reception2 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception3/ /backup/daily/reception3 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Files/ /backup/daily/Files If this is the complete script, you've forgotten to start the file with the shell invocation: #!/bin/sh =20 > All files created where chmod'd with +x, then I test the scripts by > running them manually and all three, daily, weekly & monthly work > fine. Scripts started from the shell prompt will run without the #! line (they will be interpreted by a subshell).=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmDU2AACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW/LwCdGvpkXDXdjzD8uJQCbLOrDgS8 lG0AoIwEMg9cXM3QFIzmhSxQPnZTF6Qr =g+/W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:22:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF971065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC568FC18 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0UJQBcR071392; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:26:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0UJQAlW071115; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:26:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:26:10 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Uwe Laverenz In-Reply-To: <20090130160750.GA15557@laverenz.de> Message-ID: References: <20090130160750.GA15557@laverenz.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="207141057-972700094-1233343571=:45696" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:22:51 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --207141057-972700094-1233343571=:45696 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 04:03:10PM +0100, Klaus Friis Østergaard wrote: > >> I tried to remove the directories that was not removed by deinstall >> manually, and then installed again, now no complaints about not being >> able to uninstall I can now start gdm again, with out any complaints, >> but when I run sockstat I cannot see gdm-binary active nor any listen >> on udp 177. >> >> Any suggestions? > > GDM 2.24 ist broken, not only on FreeBSD but also on other systems like > Fedora. My personal workaround ist to keep using 2.20 for now, which > seems to be the last working version that came from the gnome team. gdm-2.24.1_5 is not broken, else I couldn't have logged onto my gnome-desktop some minutes ago. But there are some feature-regressions compared to 2.20 - developers say they have rewritten important parts of the code. Greetings, Uli. > > There is a thread about this at the freebsd-gnome mailing list. > > Uwe > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | Wuppertal | Germany --207141057-972700094-1233343571=:45696-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:28:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541E9106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5118FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.139] (helo=smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSz2o-0001hj-Ni; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:28:50 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSz2n-0004o6-Md; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:28:49 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DFC39841; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:28:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498354F0.6050000@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:28:48 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: drcubi@yahoo.com References: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1LSz2n-0004o6-Md X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.413, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:28:52 -0000 drcubi@yahoo.com wrote: > I am using rsync and crontab to perform scheduled backups on FreeBSD AMD64 Rel. 7.0 > I am following process described here for rsync : > http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/examples.html > > I have a backup script's created for daily, weekly, monthly. > This is one example - the daily (/backup is a seperate physical drive) : > > #daily backup script > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Access/ /backup/daily/Access > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Templates/ /backup/daily/Templates > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/QBdata/ /backup/daily/QBdata > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception1/ /backup/daily/reception1 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception2/ /backup/daily/reception2 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception3/ /backup/daily/reception3 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Files/ /backup/daily/Files > > All files created where chmod'd with +x, then I test the scripts by running them manually and all three, daily, weekly & monthly work fine. > > FInal step, I add to root crontab, by using : > > crontab -e > > I added following lines : > > 1 23 30 * * /usr/local/sbin/backup/monthly > 1 21 * * 0 /usr/local/sbin/backup/weekly > 1 23 * * 1-5 /usr/local/sbin/backup/daily > > crontab -l shows all is OK as well. > > But the scheduled backups never happen. I must be doing something wrong, but can't figure out what. > rsync isn't in the path of cron. You should either provide the complete path in the script, of add /usr/local/bin to your crontab. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:29:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5541065706 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2458FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so105019nfh.33 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YIjIBuJnF/nl5NOx/Mb0VIGVm1E+BPxXa/tEkYpw6lk=; b=xOsp/w35C/pYZn8+CIIfVuTNcXzLkEVUatVdt6m5pn2RM26SQQmb24bcQVGW5F35/7 D048QlqTUWzlmg+58PCulcyBWHP9nvdo4Nm++Iw/PYSgvCAymKYk0vY4Sy/TGsCuU0CM WyATdSo6Prd3MB6Xo9qXZ435GrMk3papyBlwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YUIv/CvBVmoTh4QJozLtnvNu1nK+INgxWY+3pwY6PNCl63Y+cdcn12oT0WSr5Y/jnL S9y+/5J5i4GNFAwYMS6QV7OZbA9seinp3AtIzNYi+MQYu2PSFYEi70poCNgCidVKxGoF 9ByCvqj4k38awE3e1JwtcuexMktiNGYyCLpQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.112.1 with SMTP id k1mr1736114ebc.167.1233343789095; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:29:49 +0100 Message-ID: <3a142e750901301129w271f25f0kc9270ec3919005f0@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Lars Lonne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless signal strength X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:29:51 -0000 On 1/30/09, Lars Lonne wrote: > Hi. I have recently install FreeBSD-7.1 on my laptop. The laptop used to > have windows and linux, but I have replaced linux with FreeBSD because I > thought it looked very promising. However, I have one problem: the wireless > signal strength seems to be significantly weaker when I am running FreeBSD. > On windows I can connect and get online, but when I'm running FreeBSD it > keeps connecting and disconnecting, or not even seeing the network at all. > Also in linux it was never a problem. Is there something that can be done > with this? In linux I was using wireless-tools (iwconfig) and dhclient, > which worked fine. Are there perhaps other software that will work better > than using ifconfig? > what driver? > /lars > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:30:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4C51065757 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com [207.106.133.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9FF8FC45 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD5495566; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:30:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lukas.is-a-geek.org (unknown [71.113.98.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A58495565; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:30:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:30:02 -0800 (PST) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org To: Ewald Jenisch In-Reply-To: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> Message-ID: References: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 6855509C-EF04-11DD-8C41-CC4CC92D7133-96347044!a-sasl-fastnet.pobox.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:30:12 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > Today I upgraded my system (ports) so I got x.org 7.4 installed. > > Given the various entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the recent > updates for xorg I wonder what the correct settings/combinations are > for my installation: > > I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable="YES" as > well as moused (moused_enable=YES in rc.conf). > > My login is via console from where I manually start X11 (gnome) via > "startx". > > Here's what I've got in my xorg.conf: > > # Added after upgrade of X11 > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" > EndSection > > the following entries where there even before the upgrade: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "Corekeyboard" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbLayout" "de" > Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > > > Here are my questions: > > o) When I start X it basically works, but then I get out of gnome, > ending up at the commandline and start X11 again ("startx"), the > screen becomes garbled and everything freezes completely. Not only is > any input via the console disabled but also no reaction on already > established ssh-sessions - complete lockup. > > I'm using the "radeonhd" driver for my graphics card is a ATI Radeon > HD 2400 XT (RV610 chipset). > > > > o) Are the above settings (i.e. AllowEmptyInput and the sections for > keyboard/mouse) correct for my combination of hald and moused running? > > Thanks much in advance for your help, > -ewald Me too. I started a thread a few days ago titled "Restarting new Xorg freezes system". My symptoms are the same as yours. I'm not running hald at all. I'm not using full-blown gnome, just windowmaker. I'm using the "radeon" driver on an ATI HD 4350 I just tried switching to the "vesa" driver, and now I can stop and start X as much as I want with no problems whatsoever. I know that this was not a problem with the "radeon" driver prior to the Xorg update. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:30:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11EE10657BE for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2FB8FC37 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.136] (helo=smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSz4V-0001bC-BE; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:30:35 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LSz4T-0001vz-7c; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:30:33 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AD6398DE; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:30:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49835558.6060803@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:30:32 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: drcubi@yahoo.com References: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <498354F0.6050000@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <498354F0.6050000@boosten.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1LSz4T-0001vz-7c X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.413, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:30:37 -0000 Peter Boosten wrote: > path in the script, of add /usr/local/bin to your crontab. ^^ or Sometimes the Dutch language emerges :-) -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:33:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0C310656EE for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com [207.106.133.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2408FC1A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB3C955B6; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lukas.is-a-geek.org (unknown [71.113.98.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 791B6955B3; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:33:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:33:31 -0800 (PST) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org To: "Alain G. Fabry" In-Reply-To: <20090130064909.GA8440@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <4980FB70.2040605@gmail.com> <20090130064909.GA8440@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Pobox-Relay-ID: E2CEBB4C-EF04-11DD-9C01-CC4CC92D7133-96347044!a-sasl-fastnet.pobox.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restarting new Xorg freezes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:33:36 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:18:10PM -0800, Luke Dean wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Glen Barber wrote: >> >>> Luke Dean wrote: >>>> >>>> The operating system and ports were all cvsupped and built from source >>>> today. I'm running Xorg + windowmaker + the "radeon" driver on i386 >>>> 7-STABLE >>>> >>>> My xorg.conf was built from scratch by "Xorg -configure", plus I added >>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >>>> to the "ServerLayout" section, per /usr/ports/UPDATING, since I'm not >>>> running hal and I can't get keyboard or mouse otherwise. >>>> >>>> Everything appears to be great. My applications launch much faster than >>>> they did before the upgrade. Shutting down and restarting X is the only >>>> problem I'm having. This was not a problem before I upgraded to the new >>>> Xorg. >>>> >>>> This is a desktop system. I launch X with "startx" from the console. I >>>> can shut down X either by exiting windowmaker or by killing the Xorg >>>> server with ctrl+alt+backspace. There appear to be some failure messages >>>> on the console when I shut down X, but I don't know what they mean or >>>> if they're important. I'm attaching a log below. I don't see any stuck >>>> processes after the shutdown, but perhaps I don't know what I'm looking >>>> for. >>>> >>>> If I later restart X with "startx", some corrupted graphical junk appears >>>> on the screen and the system freezes solid. Keyboard and mouse are >>>> completely unresponsive. NumLock light won't change. I can't ssh into >>>> the system either. >>>> I can reproduce this at will, but my hard drives don't like it. >>>> >>>> Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? >>>> Do I need to switch to hal? >>>> >>> >>> Have you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? >>> >> >> Well.. yeah... See my second paragraph above. >> Is there something in there that I'm not seeing that explains why >> restarting X would hang the whole system? >> _______________________________________________ > > You by any chance don't have dual-headed X configured? I had a similar > problem and after removing my second ServerLayout section + RgbPath + > 'AllowEmptyInput' in xorg.conf, everything seems to work again (even my > dual display ???) > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "PANEL" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > EndSection > > # Removed after upgrade xorg... > > #Section "ServerLayout" > # Identifier "X.org Configured" > # Screen 0 "PANEL" 0 0 > # Screen 1 "VGA_1" RightOf "PANEL" > # InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > # InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > # Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > # Option "Xinerama" "true" > #EndSection > No, just one monitor and just one ServerLayout section. I just discovered that switching from "radeon" to "vesa" makes the problem go away for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:36:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D937E1065789 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC458FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23701173C59; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:35:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4983568E.9000606@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:35:42 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <1233291152.26964.15.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <49829ACF.40204@gmail.com> <1233328764.26964.67.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1233328764.26964.67.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.1 to 7.1 remotely? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:36:02 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Thanks, perfect. One of the first things it says to do is a 'portupgrade > -a', which I already know clamav is going to fail. Is this going to > cause problems? And if other packages fail to upgrade, I assume I should > investigate each? However, I don't expect anything else because we only > have mail filtering type packages on this server and all other packages > we installed have upgraded fine and at their latest versions now. We're > also running our own kernel with quota option. > > Also, from reading this doc, I'll get the GENERIC kernel with the > upgrade and then I'll just need to rebuild for quotas You can try to do the steps and ignore clamav failing, then upgrade the port after the new kernel is in place. I guess there is some chance it might fail to build after the upgrade for entirely different reasons so use that info at your own risk Making a backup first might be a good idea. Once the new GENERIC is installed you can edit and rebuild to suit your taste, just like you would with a normal kernel change. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 19:37:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE7B106583E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from cohiba.eagle.ca (cohiba.eagle.ca [208.70.104.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C0A8FC24 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 45991 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jan 2009 19:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.114?) (steveb@eagle.ca@208.70.104.100) by cohiba.eagle.ca with ESMTPA; 30 Jan 2009 19:10:26 -0000 Message-ID: <4983509B.7020208@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:10:19 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: drcubi@yahoo.com References: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:37:10 -0000 drcubi@yahoo.com wrote: > I am using rsync and crontab to perform scheduled backups on FreeBSD AMD64 Rel. 7.0 > I am following process described here for rsync : > http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/examples.html > > I have a backup script's created for daily, weekly, monthly. > This is one example - the daily (/backup is a seperate physical drive) : > > #daily backup script > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Access/ /backup/daily/Access > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Templates/ /backup/daily/Templates > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/QBdata/ /backup/daily/QBdata > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception1/ /backup/daily/reception1 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception2/ /backup/daily/reception2 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception3/ /backup/daily/reception3 > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Files/ /backup/daily/Files Try putting the full path to rsync in your script: # whereis rsync Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:02:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE494106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E78C8FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05A5AFBCCB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:02:54 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:02:54 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <498354F0.6050000@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <498354F0.6050000@boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301102.54444.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: drcubi@yahoo.com, Peter Boosten Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:02:55 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 10:28:48 Peter Boosten wrote: > drcubi@yahoo.com wrote: > > #daily backup script > > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Access/ /backup/daily/Access > > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Templates/ /backup/daily/Templates > > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/QBdata/ /backup/daily/QBdata > > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception1/ /backup/daily/reception1 > > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception2/ /backup/daily/reception2 > > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/reception3/ /backup/daily/reception3 > > rsync -a --delete /usr/home/data/Files/ /backup/daily/Files > > > > But the scheduled backups never happen. I must be doing something wrong, > > but can't figure out what. > > rsync isn't in the path of cron. You should either provide the complete > path in the script, of add /usr/local/bin to your crontab. And while you're at it, configure your sendmail/aliases properly so you get CRON's diagnostics. Meaning, change this line in /etc/aliases and run newaliases command: # root: me@my.domain You may wanna skip through /var/mail/root to see if there's anything else you missed ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:03:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5943110656BE for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4718FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 X-RZG-AUTH: :LWgJfE6Id/4Sm/WkdV0gEbKL+/p/UjmosA/b4BPf1Ida/LA6f2WjvdsA Received: from athena.laverenz.de (77-22-194-90-dynip.superkabel.de [77.22.194.90]) by post.strato.de (mrclete mo39) (RZmta 18.15) with ESMTP id q00590l0UJ0rSg ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:03:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C0C127BF2; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:02:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21038-01-4; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:02:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.23.143] (unknown [192.168.23.143]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B15B127BF1; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:02:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49835D1D.6070504@laverenz.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:03:41 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa References: <20090130160750.GA15557@laverenz.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:03:46 -0000 Peter Ulrich Kruppa schrieb: > gdm-2.24.1_5 is not broken, else I couldn't have logged onto my > gnome-desktop some minutes ago. But there are some feature-regressions Sorry, do you mean you logged into a _remote_ machine (via XDMCP) that is running GDM 2.24 and listens to UDP 177? Because this is the thing that doesn't work for us. When I said "broken", I meant that XDMCP does not work anymore (and a few other things that users were comfortable with). > compared to 2.20 - developers say they have rewritten important parts of > the code. Rewritten? Yes, that's what they call it these days when they remove features without getting the new stuff working. :-( Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:06:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4821065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3150B8FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62CAAFC1FE; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:06:17 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:06:17 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49832523.60402@futurecis.com> In-Reply-To: <49832523.60402@futurecis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301106.17524.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: William Bentley Subject: Re: Perl5.8 Won't Build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:06:19 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 07:04:51 William Bentley wrote: > Hey All, > > Trying to build Perl5.8 and keep getting error messages about the > makefile. This is a new installation under AMD64 7.1Release inside of a > jail. Already did a make clean and portsnap. I already wrote to the lang > mailing list as well to no avail as of yet. Any ideas appreciated. Here > is the output. > ===> Building for perl-5.8.9 > make: cannot open makefile. > *** Error code 2 Please show output of: make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl-5.8 -n do-build -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:23:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED171065687 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE9B8FC25 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F29FAFBCCB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:23:36 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:23:35 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090130154311.GA7964@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090130154311.GA7964@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301123.35763.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: gsasl 0.2.28_1 does not link in 7.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:23:37 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 06:43:11 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > Any idea about the problem below? Thx > > matthias > > # cd /usr/ports/security/gsasl > # make > ===> Building for gsasl-0.2.28_1 > make all-recursive > Making all in po > Making all in gl > make all-am > Making all in lib > make all-recursive > Making all in po > Making all in gl > make all-am > Making all in gltests > make all-recursive > Making all in external > Making all in anonymous > Making all in plain > Making all in login > Making all in cram-md5 > Making all in digest-md5 > Making all in ntlm > Making all in gssapi > Making all in securid > Making all in src > Making all in src > make all-am > /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -std=gnu99 -O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -L/usr/local/lib -o gsasl gsasl.o > gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o ../lib/src/libgsasl.la > ../gl/libgl.la -lreadline -L/usr/local/lib -lgnutls -lz > -L/usr/local/lib -lgcrypt -L/usr/local/lib -lgpg-error -L/usr/local/lib > -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -R/usr/local/lib > cc -std=gnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -o .libs/gsasl gsasl.o > gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o -L/usr/local/lib > ../lib/src/.libs/libgsasl.so -L/usr/lib /usr/local/lib/libntlm.so > -lgssapi -lkrb5 -lasn1 -lcrypto -lroken -lcrypt -lcom_err > ../gl/.libs/libgl.a -lreadline /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so -lz > /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so > /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -Wl,--rpath > -Wl,/usr/local/lib > /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `init_error_table' > /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `initialize_error_table_r' > *** Error code 1 Judging from the manpage, it's not supposed to be linked directly, but using -lbsnmp. But your linkline is far more complex then mine. Which of the dependencies did you enable kerberos and snmp support? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:42:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0288210656EA for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DD48FC19 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so256512yxb.13 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:42:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LWbzSMvQscKrhRNfraD0feZG2ZRtqnxdIZg2mNoowEI=; b=jb5e1ggkJ6TVMqvGTUs37/swyMUhjXK67kfLgrmBmY5vqZEHRQfhdbGMV9gMHhKoc0 xFi2RfBx2SnmvG2mIAUe35JCjqicaSYHttPjE50kzlew3reYxHy7JiH8QemPyUpPdlh7 j/qH3DpKPWjpIQyXtNVdPQc4hxjRQy22G59/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BfYlymeLHuv2r+ofbfJGsYO1VIWb9YRbrwshgSMEuAIwfyFItRDllMFJy7UdWdPGqu zhz1sL5Czfh/4Jp8WhmuGRs6AiPv68qbzMfrOTJHGEevOyhLxRhuKPFcrVactQ+C1xsh M+lddWVP0gqlwFIHan9SLuJSbEhcthQSUccnU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.20.2 with SMTP id d2mr219414ibb.37.1233348143757; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:42:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4981A577.6090002@gmail.com> References: <4981A577.6090002@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:42:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Gunther Mayer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Saving pf state for accounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:42:25 -0000 And the numbers automatically wrap at 4GB, due to the i386 architecture if you're using such an arch. I have no clue if the amd64 arch will keep it any longer. And yes, I am topposting. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Gunther Mayer wrote: > Hi guys, > > My server uses up tons of bandwidth every month and I'd like to start > recording what traffic volumes my different services chew up on a monthly > basis. My firewall utility of choice is pf and I've recently come across its > neat "label" facility so that I can do a simple "pfctl -sl" to get the > latest readings. > > That's all fair and well but I lose all that lovely accounting information > upon reboot so how do I go about saving this? I've googled quite a bit to > look for a solution but have found nothing useful so far, just unanswered > posts in the past. > > From what I can tell so far I'd have to write a custom rc script which > redirects "pfctl -sl" into some sort of logfile which then may be retrieved > at a later stage (and added to current counter output). Is there an easier > way perhaps? > > Gunther > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:42:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82B5106566C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37838FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA043AFBCCB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:42:34 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:42:34 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901291308.47418.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301142.34624.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Arjan van der Oest Subject: Re: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs during mountcritremote execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:42:36 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 04:36:04 Arjan van der Oest wrote: > Mel wrote: > >> - why does the system tries to mount the nfs filesystem from the > > fstab > > >> while nfs_client_enable has been set to no in rc.conf? > > > >Because there is no relation between the two. You could be using a 3rd > >party nfs kernel module. > > Yes, but I am not. I'm using the default kernel option which I believe > is enabled with the mentioned rc.conf switch, or am I wrong here? Yes, but why should mount(8) check /etc/rc.conf? The relation is reverse, rc(8) should give services the right(tm) arguments. > >> And more bizarre: when interrupting the > >> mountcritremote script the share has been actually mounted, so it > > Also what puzzles me is the fact that a new identical setup box has no > problem. As I wrote earlier the only difference is that I did not select > the 'enable nfs client' from the sysinstall this time. I have not used > any of the mentioned flags on the second box too, so why does it work on > that machine? Does this one also have a link UP message after nfs mounting? If not, then there's your culprit: network isn't up at mountcritremote time. You should mark it 'late' in fstab. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 20:47:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E411065672 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5C58FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LT0Gg-0006GI-Nr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:47:14 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:47:14 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:47:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:46:50 +0100 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <20090130172000.GA89911@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3C25B4E89C6D66C5186E53E4" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) In-Reply-To: <20090130172000.GA89911@saturn.pcs.ms> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Strange messages in /var/log/messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:47:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3C25B4E89C6D66C5186E53E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin Schweizer wrote: > Since I have the above options I get the following messages in my /var/= log/messages: > [snip] > Jan 30 17:54:45 firewall kernel: c > Jan 30 17:54:46 firewall kernel: 0 > Jan 30 17:54:57 firewall kernel: w Nothing serious - two (or more) CPUs were writing things to the log at the same time. --------------enig3C25B4E89C6D66C5186E53E4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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b=yPUkONd7EWNGu8iJAtR25FC3BlJsUYUJfARhhz+Ph1S5WL6UL21PtSJFJVDEMZQ5G FCtNbeR3ASF+yrFIkqMwC8dBW5J+8MkkECrOZ0Lkvxh5L5E8Yonqj9lfHG6ZbGDuM8 t8IgyyTGBx2g8fvcB9BK1wQ115W0ik/fjA5vYEU8= Message-ID: <4983713E.5010800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:29:34 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20090130153128.GA82736@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090130153128.GA82736@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig57CF7BE66C263C9ED509B903" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:29:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8927/Fri Jan 30 19:30:27 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Ewald Jenisch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:30:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig57CF7BE66C263C9ED509B903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:46:14PM +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Today I upgraded my system (ports) so I got x.org 7.4 installed. >> >> Given the various entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the recent >> updates for xorg I wonder what the correct settings/combinations are >> for my installation: >> >> I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable=3D"YES" as >> well as moused (moused_enable=3DYES in rc.conf). >=20 > what??? where's hald_enable=3D"YES" documented? > There's nothing about this in X, dbus, or hald manual pages. > Perhaps this is why my X servers won't work and dbus keeps complaining > that it cannot connect.. >=20 rc.conf(5) in the general sense and in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald specifica= lly. 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First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Ali To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=3D1192115166&k=3DZ4G35466U4WFUCE1WK4YP3P&r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 21:56:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416C61065674 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@gmail.com) Received: from smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 292B38FC1E for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 50115 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2009 21:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.14?) (jguojun@75.36.164.103 with plain) by smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2009 21:30:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Zuiiao0VM1l16RLbLTUpgP4oMyl8Hvtx0cnmsHnHKq2xaf3XLLPoOlClcstWd34aa9FfZZVckf7pWYYvTvpvwByG.4Oju8.4CTgPMqCu_jIkO02NGFYKn0tTsLJJQKxEXWcGXEbuAWLhza5SRmBJgrMmhx.KkOoGsW2PncK0kx5pcR27kYviaLXM6qaPVleyI22FsZHYTMWvXOR6NHAPQBBPHXhpfw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4983715E.7070504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:30:06 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun[VFF]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20071201 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Really strange resolution problems on xorg with a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:56:51 -0000 Has this problem been resolved? I have the same problem for a similar laptop (HP Pavilion dv5120us). The X Server 1.4.0 (FreeBSD 6.3-R) works fine, but 1.4.2 (From both 6.4 and 7.1) produce this problem. My screen is 13.25 inch x 8.25 inch in resolution 1280x800. The DPI shown in Xorg.0.log is (96, 96), which is correct according to the dpi expression listed below. Only strange # from the Xorg.0.log is the screen size 310 x 21. The screen size should be 330 x 301, which is corrected stated in xorg.conf. I wonder if this is a X Server 1.4.2 bug. Is anyway to correct this problem? or X 1.4.0 has to be used for this particular laptop till a new X Server released. -Jin --------- original message ------------- On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:22:40 -0500, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > Check the DPI settings from your monitor and if they match the > > settings in xorg.conf. Some programs calculate font sizes > > according to these values. > > > How do I check that... Eventually there's a setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf called "DisplaySize" that does not match the display size of the monitor. Take a ruler and check. Then, calculate the dpi resolution from what the manufacturer says about the amount of pixels in X and Y (e. g. "1200x800"). physical pixels x dpi(x) = --------------------- display width in inch and physical pixels y dpi(y) = ---------------------- display height in inch The dpi resolution chosen by the X server can be determined by % grep DPI /var/log/Xorg.0.log This should match the reality. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 22:19:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B57B1065675; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0248FC18; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LT1i3-0007HS-80>; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:19:35 +0100 Received: from e178024083.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.24.83] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LT1i3-0000Rq-57>; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:19:35 +0100 Message-ID: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:19:41 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.24.83 Cc: Subject: Xorg upgrade desaster: Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:19:36 -0000 After upgrading one of my FreeBSD 8.0-CUR/amd64 boxes to new xorg-7.4 and having done hurting recompiling nearly everything/package twice now firefox3 still doesn't work properly and hits me when starting with this error message: Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Then firefox3 freezes forever, showing something like the background or pixel remnants of windows/picograms moving over its window. I recompiled three times libxcb and its dependencies, two times Xlib/Xserver/xf86-input-* to be sure having compiled everything and then I recompiled everything again what's necessary to build Firefox3. No effect. I now recompile everything needed to build Xlib to get rid of the above shown error message because I suspect this causing my firefox3 not working. On another box, also amd64, but FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE (SMP) I had to do the same procedure and firefox3 is working properly. Bot boxes do have ATI graphics (driver radeon). I also tried deleting my personal .mozille directory and started firefox from scratch. But after some download-save-requester opened (when trying to download a file from a location in the web) firefox freezes also eating up 100% cpu. In all cases Firefox3 can be killed. Any help is appreciated. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 22:54:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D438C106583D; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D81F8FC32; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.netplex.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id n0UMbtVA000775; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by DRAC access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:55 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade desaster: Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:54:09 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, O. Hartmann wrote: > After upgrading one of my FreeBSD 8.0-CUR/amd64 boxes to new xorg-7.4 > and having done hurting recompiling nearly everything/package twice now > firefox3 still doesn't work properly and hits me when starting with this > error message: > > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > > Then firefox3 freezes forever, showing something like the background or > pixel remnants of windows/picograms moving over its window. > > I recompiled three times libxcb and its dependencies, two times > Xlib/Xserver/xf86-input-* to be sure having compiled everything and then > I recompiled everything again what's necessary to build Firefox3. No > effect. I now recompile everything needed to build Xlib to get rid of > the above shown error message because I suspect this causing my firefox3 > not working. > > On another box, also amd64, but FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE (SMP) I had to do the > same procedure and firefox3 is working properly. Bot boxes do have ATI > graphics (driver radeon). > > I also tried deleting my personal .mozille directory and started firefox > from scratch. But after some download-save-requester opened (when trying > to download a file from a location in the web) firefox freezes also > eating up 100% cpu. In all cases Firefox3 can be killed. > > Any help is appreciated. Perhaps it's a little overkill, but what I usually do when I perform upgrades like this, is to move /usr/local out of the way (along with /var/db/pkg), and remove any X/KDE/QT stuff in /tmp, /var/.., etc. Then I install (portupdate -NR) everything from scratch. If something goes wrong, I just have to move the original /usr/local back until I work out the problems. -- DE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:07:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4659A106564A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from William@futurecis.com) Received: from mail1.futurecis.com (static-72-66-123-22.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.123.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E574A8FC16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from William@futurecis.com) Received: (qmail 94464 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2009 23:08:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.100]) ([10.0.0.100]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.futurecis.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jan 2009 23:08:14 -0000 Message-ID: <49838825.7030506@futurecis.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:07:17 -0500 From: William Bentley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <49832523.60402@futurecis.com> <200901301106.17524.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901301106.17524.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl5.8 Won't Build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:07:10 -0000 Here is the output: (cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.9; /usr/bin/env LANG="" LC_ALL="" LC_COLLATE="" LC_CTYPE="" LC_MESSAGES="" LC_MONETARY="" LC_NUMERIC="" LC_TIME="" SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib -lXm -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" MANPREFIX="/usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f makefile all) Mel wrote: > On Friday 30 January 2009 07:04:51 William Bentley wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> Trying to build Perl5.8 and keep getting error messages about the >> makefile. This is a new installation under AMD64 7.1Release inside of a >> jail. Already did a make clean and portsnap. I already wrote to the lang >> mailing list as well to no avail as of yet. Any ideas appreciated. Here >> is the output. >> > > > > >> ===> Building for perl-5.8.9 >> make: cannot open makefile. >> *** Error code 2 >> > > Please show output of: > make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl-5.8 -n do-build > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:24:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1385A1065721 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric@mikestammer.com) Received: from mho-02-bos.mailhop.org (mho-02-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BAA8FC13 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric@mikestammer.com) Received: from vdsl-151-118-132-54.dnvr.qwest.net ([151.118.132.54] helo=mail.mikestammer.com) by mho-02-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LT1rP-000Izc-7w; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:29:15 +0000 Received: from mikestammer.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8D8B876; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:28:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from 67.166.123.99 (SquirrelMail authenticated user eric@mikestammer.com) by mikestammer.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:28:22 -0700 (MST) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 151.118.132.54 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/1dHXzlV3ny3qJz/p1L2khECsj5uSMFAY= Message-ID: <61874.67.166.123.99.1233350902.squirrel@mikestammer.com> In-Reply-To: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:28:22 -0700 (MST) From: "Eric Zimmerman" To: drcubi@yahoo.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:24:43 -0000 On Fri, January 30, 2009 11:37 am, drcubi@yahoo.com wrote: > I am using rsync and crontab to perform scheduled backups on FreeBSD > AMD64 Rel. 7.0 > I am following process described here for rsync : > http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/examples.html > You should check out the rsnapshot port. it does what you are looking for and more. It will save you a lot of scripting, etc and it works great. I have been using it as part of my backup procedure for a while now and it works well. Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:29:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1D71065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CF58FC14 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.141] (helo=smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LT2nx-0001DC-QJ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:29:45 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LT2nw-0003eQ-JY; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:29:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.13.81] (iPod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.81]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E913439841; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:29:37 +0100 (CET) References: <229610.47419.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <61874.67.166.123.99.1233350902.squirrel@mikestammer.com> Message-Id: From: Peter Boosten To: Eric Zimmerman In-Reply-To: <61874.67.166.123.99.1233350902.squirrel@mikestammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5H11) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:29:36 +0100 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1LT2nw-0003eQ-JY X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.913, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "drcubi@yahoo.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:29:47 -0000 On Jan 30, 2009, at 22:28, "Eric Zimmerman" wrote: > On Fri, January 30, 2009 11:37 am, drcubi@yahoo.com wrote: >> I am using rsync and crontab to perform scheduled backups on FreeBSD >> AMD64 Rel. 7.0 >> I am following process described here for rsync : >> http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/examples.html >> > > You should check out the rsnapshot port. it does what you are > looking for > and more. It will save you a lot of scripting, etc and it works > great. I > have been using it as part of my backup procedure for a while now > and it > works well. > > Eric > > Lot's of solutions: I use dirvish, also from the ports. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:30:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427E91065670 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7D28FC2A for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF43AFBCCB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:30:07 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:30:06 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301430.07087.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade desaster: Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:30:09 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 13:19:41 O. Hartmann wrote: > After upgrading one of my FreeBSD 8.0-CUR/amd64 boxes to new xorg-7.4 > and having done hurting recompiling nearly everything/package twice now > firefox3 still doesn't work properly and hits me when starting with this > error message: > > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > > Then firefox3 freezes forever, showing something like the background or > pixel remnants of windows/picograms moving over its window. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-October/039134.html -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:31:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB17106571B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: from web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C39788FC1B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3842 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2009 23:31:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=IuUOfIRiNnESil8ZQd3pgkZoOHBb9dUUyZm/XBb3bUmVsfZUC8qnJbsw4QsfKCxwT1Sz31QA5HJlnC39WX6d5Tx4LanpujVUxr6Zhe76AlyFMOadKc04jFTW46cx1wVh1KzohioUuhl922I8BAnr1iSXjtvnYJzHwMFh4X059pI=; X-YMail-OSG: MaaM_FQVM1n_Gvg75cr1W6zpRzzq.tK3OLlixnW2rurcyIVMfuQ3yXL5r2LwnrIoa6gi.5te2PTavScFA8UKGwC7sSKOC.UUcuFT79Iej_zExZqZVNFU3E.CH4mi1UhYtJP9kZute1dWSy08.qQdiQPUbTfnOKeYVUSIUXv2g4kR5uGkkKEFOwB8H3y2GV5Ou_hIINlOnPqX4FDiWlI6SFNitjtyTlFF Received: from [4.71.142.195] by web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:17 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 References: <745210.79886.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200901291353.47467.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:31:17 -0800 (PST) From: joe park To: Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <362624.89140.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: ssh login problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:31:18 -0000 Yup, it was I/O problem. I couldn't find anything in the log, so I decided to go to data center and take a look. Kernel panic messages were on the screen: panic: ffs_alloccg: map corrupted ... ... Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode ... fault code: = supervisor write, page not present Upon inspection, I found out that it had seagate 1tb hard drive with known firmware issue. Replaced the drive and it looks OK so far. Hopefully that was it. Thanks for the help! Joe ----- Original Message ---- From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: joe park Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:53:47 PM Subject: Re: ssh login problem On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:48:03 joe park wrote: > $ ssh -vvv user2@192.168.1.2 > OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 > debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.2 [192.168.1.2] port 22. > debug1: Connection established. > debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/identity type -1 > debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 > debug1: identity file /home/user1/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 > > It just waits infinitely at this point. There is no other way to access > and troubleshoot the machine B remotely (telnet is not enabled) and only > thing I can do is call and ask for hard reset. I/O problems on B. Disk blocks all processes needing it. Console login would not work either. grep TIMEOUT /var/log/messages on B should provide some insight. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:36:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B9210656CF for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB7A8FC1C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9pU31b0520bG4ec57zP95l; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:23:09 +0000 Received: from daland.home ([24.34.211.11]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9zP81b00c0FJTGg3PzP9kB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:23:09 +0000 Received: from algo by daland.home with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LT2hX-0003NJ-He; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:23:07 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov To: "O. Hartmann" In-reply-to: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> (ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) References: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:23:07 -0500 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade desaster: Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:36:26 -0000 ,--- You/O. (Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:19:41 +0100) ----* | After upgrading one of my FreeBSD 8.0-CUR/amd64 boxes to new xorg-7.4 | and having done hurting recompiling nearly everything/package twice now | firefox3 still doesn't work properly and hits me when starting with this | error message: | | Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Interesting -- I just did my comprehensive upgrade, as a part of which xorg-server went from 1.5.3_1,1 to 1.5.3_2,1. And this is what I see now, for the first time, and consistently: ---------------------------------------- $ xterm& [3] 12585 $ emacs & [4] 12644 Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". ---------------------------------------- The garbage still pollutes my windows periodically, so, I guess, my next xorg-server will be 1.4. For reference, my system is: i386 FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE Sun Jan 25 06:28:38 EST 2009 It not being CURRENT, I took the liberty of cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:42:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6261065673 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDC88FC17 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51450AFC204; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:42:51 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:42:50 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49832523.60402@futurecis.com> <200901301106.17524.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49838825.7030506@futurecis.com> In-Reply-To: <49838825.7030506@futurecis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301442.51094.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: William Bentley Subject: Re: Perl5.8 Won't Build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:42:52 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 14:07:17 William Bentley wrote: > Here is the output: > > (cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.9; /usr/bin/env LANG="" > LC_ALL="" LC_COLLATE="" LC_CTYPE="" LC_MESSAGES="" LC_MONETARY="" > LC_NUMERIC="" LC_TIME="" SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local > LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib -lXm > -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" > CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" > MANPREFIX="/usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel > -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" > BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" > BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f makefile all) Mine looks for Makefile (capital M). Did you set a MAKEFILE variable somewhere, like environment variable? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 23:55:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C34F106566B for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from William@futurecis.com) Received: from mail1.futurecis.com (static-72-66-123-22.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.123.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EA78FC0C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from William@futurecis.com) Received: (qmail 94706 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2009 23:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.100]) ([10.0.0.100]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.futurecis.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jan 2009 23:56:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49839383.2090606@futurecis.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:55:47 -0500 From: William Bentley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <49832523.60402@futurecis.com> <200901301106.17524.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49838825.7030506@futurecis.com> <200901301442.51094.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200901301442.51094.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl5.8 Won't Build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:55:39 -0000 No, this is a new install and there are no env vars set. I made sure that the env was clean anyways. Mel wrote: > On Friday 30 January 2009 14:07:17 William Bentley wrote: > >> Here is the output: >> >> (cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.9; /usr/bin/env LANG="" >> LC_ALL="" LC_COLLATE="" LC_CTYPE="" LC_MESSAGES="" LC_MONETARY="" >> LC_NUMERIC="" LC_TIME="" SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local >> LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib -lXm >> -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" >> CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" >> MANPREFIX="/usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel >> -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" >> BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" >> BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f makefile all) >> > > Mine looks for Makefile (capital M). Did you set a MAKEFILE variable > somewhere, like environment variable? > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 00:16:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A53106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714098FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FD1AFBCCB; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:16:46 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:16:46 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49832523.60402@futurecis.com> <200901301442.51094.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49839383.2090606@futurecis.com> In-Reply-To: <49839383.2090606@futurecis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901301516.46683.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: William Bentley Subject: Re: Perl5.8 Won't Build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:16:48 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 14:55:47 William Bentley wrote: > No, this is a new install and there are no env vars set. I made sure > that the env was clean anyways. As a work-around compile as: env MAKEFILE=Makefile make build How this got changed, I have no idea. > > Mel wrote: > > On Friday 30 January 2009 14:07:17 William Bentley wrote: > >> Here is the output: > >> > >> (cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.9; /usr/bin/env LANG="" > >> LC_ALL="" LC_COLLATE="" LC_CTYPE="" LC_MESSAGES="" LC_MONETARY="" > >> LC_NUMERIC="" LC_TIME="" SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local > >> LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib -lXm > >> -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" > >> CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" > >> MANPREFIX="/usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel > >> -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" > >> BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" > >> BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f makefile > >> all) > > > > Mine looks for Makefile (capital M). Did you set a MAKEFILE variable > > somewhere, like environment variable? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 04:03:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04FA106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113378FC1B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0V46idm077364; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:06:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0V46iGJ077361; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:06:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:06:44 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Uwe Laverenz In-Reply-To: <49835D1D.6070504@laverenz.de> Message-ID: References: <20090130160750.GA15557@laverenz.de> <49835D1D.6070504@laverenz.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:03:22 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > Peter Ulrich Kruppa schrieb: > >> gdm-2.24.1_5 is not broken, else I couldn't have logged onto my >> gnome-desktop some minutes ago. But there are some feature-regressions > > Sorry, do you mean you logged into a _remote_ machine (via XDMCP) that is > running GDM 2.24 and listens to UDP 177? Because this is the thing that > doesn't work for us. When I said "broken", I meant that XDMCP does not work > anymore (and a few other things that users were comfortable with). Sorry, I didn't catch the original posters second last line, my fault. Xdmcp is not available via gdm-2.24 . Greetings Uli. > >> compared to 2.20 - developers say they have rewritten important parts of >> the code. > > Rewritten? Yes, that's what they call it these days when they remove features > without getting the new stuff working. :-( > > Uwe > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | Wuppertal | Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 06:28:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C4B106564A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DC38FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0V6VWpb024720; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:31:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Message-ID: <4983F044.1020804@pukruppa.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:31:32 +0100 From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Uwe Laverenz References: <20090130160750.GA15557@laverenz.de> <49835D1D.6070504@laverenz.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:28:11 -0000 Peter Ulrich Kruppa schrieb: > On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > >> Peter Ulrich Kruppa schrieb: >> >>> gdm-2.24.1_5 is not broken, else I couldn't have logged onto my >>> gnome-desktop some minutes ago. But there are some feature-regressions >> >> Sorry, do you mean you logged into a _remote_ machine (via XDMCP) that >> is running GDM 2.24 and listens to UDP 177? Because this is the thing >> that doesn't work for us. When I said "broken", I meant that XDMCP >> does not work anymore (and a few other things that users were >> comfortable with). > Sorry, I didn't catch the original posters second last line, my fault. > Xdmcp is not available via gdm-2.24 . > > Greetings > > Uli. As a little excuse to the original poster I did some research: How about using # Xorg -query : from command line? (Mind: you have to set display number to something different from default 0 (p.ex. 1 or 2) if you are calling from inside an already running Xorg). That's a really "thin" client and it seems to work (for me - I can logon to my wifes Debian machine). Greetings Uli. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 08:10:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F121106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B728FC14 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so818418rvf.43 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:10:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=h/x/pq9EaLcL3YnqbX90Xxov5aX77N2ivK7efTV1plA=; b=OQ0ybhgB6hxjRjbLe0VwbxCEEPYVgtygzFa7gWTGFUxmWdK85DobW9fzPqEXuTVyHg EkaewWDtoa5DhODHrw4iPXmoLPTy8f5AXDAn8H4lz01SXXbOFVzQFu0ex7Je24SsXp/u cCGzFtF6vbcYdUraxwx2Qi1PA4Eq7zF6sTDxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Az6aJjrpJdkVStmSTGIP6QnQ8wmIlRQzpO/MmY1DiM0/ETn+FtsdvS/OtycA5Uk68g SpUqCbxB2EXs9x0IekeeWuui3dKtcaArjursEDfSsPZRvizMwSRhGDeV6am22zlqTNvy yTeE2200R3mGpx0lke9J8SNxTdNrcAfcB8YP8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.68.5 with SMTP id q5mr864159wfa.12.1233388037493; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:47:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:47:17 -0500 Message-ID: <58a2fd890901302347v30eb8f0ane6d0510e23136a1@mail.gmail.com> From: Antonio Rieser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:10:30 -0000 Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 7.1 on an ACER Aspire 1680 laptop. Something is writing so many errors to my Xorg.0.log and kdm-bin.log files that it fills up the /var filesystem and locks my system. (I just had my first encounter with the fixit disk - scary but successful...) I've enclosed the output of dmesg (starting at my most recent boot, without my Wacom tablet or any USB devices), followed by an excerpt of the Xorg.0.log.old file. The errors at the end of the latter are repeated until the end of the file. The errors always begin after some lines about the Wacom tablet. Is that a coincidence or a probable cause? Many, many thanks, Tony Rieser ------------------------------------------------------ dmesg output: ------------------------------------------------------ Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC module_register: module uhub/umass already exists! Module uhub/umass failed to register: 17 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.50GHz (1498.74-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6d8 Stepping = 8 Features=0xafe9f9ff Features2=0x180 AMD Features=0x100000 real memory = 518914048 (494 MB) avail memory = 493772800 (470 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0-0x3ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) vgapci0: port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xe0000000-0xe007ffff irq 6 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 16252k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 128M vgapci1: mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff,0xe0080000-0xe00fffff at device 2.1 on pci0 uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 6 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 6 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 6 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xe0100000-0xe01003ff irq 10 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 bfe0: mem 0xe0204000-0xe0205fff irq 6 at device 2.0 on pci2 miibus0: on bfe0 bmtphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 bmtphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bfe0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:9f:7f:13:f7 bfe0: [ITHREAD] pci2: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: mem 0xe0209000-0xe0209fff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb0: [ITHREAD] fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xe020a000-0xe020a7ff,0xe0200000-0xe0203fff irq 10 at device 6.2 on pci2 fwohci0: [FILTER] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:c0:9f:00:00:3f:a5:0d fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:c0:9f:3f:a5:0d fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:c0:9f:3f:a5:0d fwip0: on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:c0:9f:00:00:3f:a5:0d @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, maxrec 2048 sbp0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x1e4c0000 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode pci2: at device 6.3 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1810-0x181f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x1c00-0x1cff,0x18c0-0x18ff mem 0xe0100c00-0xe0100dff,0xe0100800-0xe01008ff irq 10 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 drq 1 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] battery0: on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_perf0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0-0x3ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xcd000-0xce7ff,0xdf800-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xe3fff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1498735522 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) ad0: 57231MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a acpi_smbus_read_2: AE_ERROR 0x10 acpi_smbus_read_2: AE_ERROR 0x10 acpi_smbus_read_2: AE_ERROR 0x10 acpi_smbus_read_2: AE_ERROR 0x10 acpi_smbus_read_2: AE_ERROR 0x10 acpi_smbus_read_2: AE_ERROR 0x10 pid 700 (dmesg), uid 0 inumber 47319 on /var: filesystem full fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 pid 667 (syslogd), uid 0 inumber 70701 on /var: filesystem full pid 838 (sendmail), uid 25 inumber 94224 on /var: filesystem full drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe8000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119 drm1: on vgapci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe8000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119 bfe0: link state changed to UP --------------------------------------------------- Excerpt of /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old --------------------------------------------------- (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00400000-0x007fffff: front buffer (4096 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x00fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x00fdf000-0x015defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000019400000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x015df000-0x015dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x000000000c62c000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x015e0000-0x015e0fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x000000001231f000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x015e1000-0x01ee0fff: exa offscreen (9216 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (WW) intel(0): ESR is 0x00000010, page table error (WW) intel(0): PGTBL_ER is 0x00000011 (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state. (II) intel(0): using SSC reference clock of 66 MHz (WW) intel(0): Chosen PLL clock of 66.5 Mhz more than 2% away from desired 65.0 Mhz (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (II) intel(0): Output TMDS is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. (II) intel(0): Set up overlay video (II) intel(0): direct rendering: Failed (--) RandR disabled (II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0 (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 304 x 228 (II) evaluating device (touch) (II) evaluating device (pad) (II) evaluating device (cursor) (II) evaluating device (eraser) (II) evaluating device (stylus) (II) evaluating device (Keyboard0) (II) evaluating device (Mouse0) touch Wacom X driver can't grab event device, errno=1005 WACOM: touch max value(s) was wrong MaxTouchY = 0 MaxTouchY = 0. pad Wacom X driver can't grab event device, errno=1005 (==) Wacom USB BambooFun tablet speed=9600 (38400) maxX=21648 maxY=13530 maxZ=511 resX=2540 resY=2540 tilt=disabled (==) Wacom device "pad" top X=0 top Y=0 bottom X=21648 bottom Y=13530 resol X=2540 resol Y=2540 (==) Wacom device "cursor" top X=0 top Y=0 bottom X=21648 bottom Y=13530 resol X=2540 resol Y=2540 (==) Wacom device "eraser" top X=0 top Y=0 bottom X=21648 bottom Y=13530 resol X=2540 resol Y=2540 (==) Wacom device "stylus" top X=0 top Y=0 bottom X=21648 bottom Y=13530 resol X=2540 resol Y=2540 (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "StopBits" "2" (**) Option "DataBits" "8" (**) Option "Parity" "None" (**) Option "Vmin" "1" (**) Option "Vtime" "0" (**) Option "FlowControl" "None" (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676684348 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676684348, ..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 08:22:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A221065670 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2DA8FC12 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05663; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:13:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-93-104-103-31.dynamic.mnet-online.de(93.104.103.31) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma005528; Sat, 31 Jan 09 09:12:59 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0V8MA4P003879; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:22:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:22:10 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Mel Message-ID: <20090131082210.GA3662@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090130154311.GA7964@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200901301123.35763.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200901301123.35763.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gsasl 0.2.28_1 does not link in 7.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:22:51 -0000 El día Friday, January 30, 2009 a las 11:23:35AM -0900, Mel escribió: > On Friday 30 January 2009 06:43:11 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Any idea about the problem below? Thx > > > > matthias > > > > # cd /usr/ports/security/gsasl > > # make > > ===> Building for gsasl-0.2.28_1 ... > > Making all in src > > make all-am > > /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -std=gnu99 -O2 > > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -L/usr/local/lib -o gsasl gsasl.o > > gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o ../lib/src/libgsasl.la > > ../gl/libgl.la -lreadline -L/usr/local/lib -lgnutls -lz > > -L/usr/local/lib -lgcrypt -L/usr/local/lib -lgpg-error -L/usr/local/lib > > -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -R/usr/local/lib > > cc -std=gnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -o .libs/gsasl gsasl.o > > gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o -L/usr/local/lib > > ../lib/src/.libs/libgsasl.so -L/usr/lib /usr/local/lib/libntlm.so > > -lgssapi -lkrb5 -lasn1 -lcrypto -lroken -lcrypt -lcom_err > > ../gl/.libs/libgl.a -lreadline /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so -lz > > /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so > > /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -Wl,--rpath > > -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `init_error_table' > > /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `initialize_error_table_r' > > *** Error code 1 > > Judging from the manpage, it's not supposed to be linked directly, but > using -lbsnmp. But your linkline is far more complex then mine. Which of the > dependencies did you enable kerberos and snmp support? Hi Mel, I've to admit that I don't understand your question. The above problem comes up when I've tried to compile the port net-im/jabberd with default options (make install BATCH=yes) which seems to need gsasl. And yes, I've ported before as well security/krb5 (but not explicitely snmp, but it is installed by some other port as net-snmp-5.4.2.1), and the security/krb5 port also with default options; what do you want me todo or check in detail? thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 09:50:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ACE106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdemail@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEE58FC1E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdemail@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so831882wfg.7 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:50:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yZNNqMPxU9lqPo5mjPm/ioQxOHwTAYTtrtwLtySoEoU=; b=lxQuOVTm0xzQhjBn1/t33O0CNjn/Fgs0IBbJPdXoHpmQyc/S0MTpN2JFlUSiaPm9e2 GBTY7jTatxg0Cu2hYku4ZqhWDbKFb0ps84rBc+CxBgk50M8tHKxrdGuUA1NwIygjGH9h WjjxHA8skFa1irvYaH1pXoXbslTwCl7EUHi5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ww813wDeYLP4I9YeB8AktUHIIUudliYxQk/ekEqXi2EROo9ST+e6jacTYZ8PPOACiT MWfkcAWi3x0C8L4IYEFbmucT/xu5z88Fv0IodI5gczjpZTZqw+RnOREUWaIgJBciH/Dk OZd+Ht5HDH/p17gE14HjDrGmNcgbhHdTgduYY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.13.16 with SMTP id q16mr890102wfi.67.1233393654225; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:20:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:20:54 -0700 Message-ID: <5cdef660901310120s264fe9d0t7c177853642b3355@mail.gmail.com> From: Tom Stuart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Autolearn=fail SpamAssassin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:50:15 -0000 Hello, I just installed SpamAssassin on FreeBSD 7.1 and am encountering an error with autolearn. It always says failed when attempting to learn. I followed the documentation for setting it up but I'm wondering if I missed something. Possibly the Bayes DB was not created? Or is this something I need to do manually? Thanks for any help :) spamassassin -V SpamAssassin version 3.2.5 running on Perl version 5.8.8 X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=23.2 required=5.0 tests=FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MISSING_DATE,MISSING_MID, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100, RAZOR2_CHECK,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB,RDNS_DYNAMIC, URIBL_AB_SURBL,URIBL_BLACK,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 09:55:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19A71065672 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C738FC1F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([75.156.151.50]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090131095459.BSNH1538.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:54:59 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (d75-156-151-50.abhsia.telus.net [75.156.151.50]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id B8612A313035F91D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:54:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <49842027.7010602@telus.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:55:51 -0700 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090131) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090129222917.2F8731065703@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090129222917.2F8731065703@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: anyone suffering with NV / xorg 7.4 issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:55:01 -0000 I know most of you have already figured this out, and others have gone back to 7.3, but I thought I'd post what worked for me. I saw many people explain bits and pieces of the problem, but none of the bits and pieces helped me the last 3 days, until I put em all together (hard to do when you have to browse with LINKS. First issues first... I upgrade from 7.3 to 7.4 using portmanager -u, seemed to go without a hitch. I read UPDATING and followed all the instructions. Rebooted and everything was broken. I had everything from no screens, to no mouse, no keyboard, no X, no startx, wfb errors, you name it. I messed around with xorg.conf for hours!!! What I had to do was portmanager -u -p -l -y (thanks robert) - This brought all my ports back to a stable state (took ages) I build xorg-server without HAL at first, but this didn't matter, hal or not, it works fine (in the end I selected all 3 choices) I then grabbed the beta nvidia driver 180.22 from the nvidia web site - installed it with make install (couldn't get driver in ports to work) X -configure and nvidia-xconfig would not work for me so I took my old config and used it (will post below) - running X -configure resulted in 32 of everything (no idea why) By now I could get startx and X to launch X just fine, but gnome would not start at all (couldn't move mouse or type ... so it seems) At the top of my xorg.conf I had to add Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" (thx again robert)... for the longest time I was being an idiot and adding just AutoAddDevices "off" (reading man helped... duh) xorg.conf below (really stripped down) after this I did a reboot and everything is working with full 3D... hope this helps anyone still struggling :( Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "Module" Load "freetype" # Load "xtt" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "Monitor" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC: Identifier "Monitor0" HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 100.0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 09:58:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255BB1065674 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC51B8FC13 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so756505fka.11 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:58:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YDiJVjBBLR+l+4te2akmG57csyfThK5Biosvlm6GGwQ=; b=wMBf3VtGY2DwNIERCHjpaAbhx9DKSr9pjLj1uOCkv4hInExvebPFVMSMFj7Lo5/iYb z73UKEDh0g+VXRMcuKYnlS0I+nZUTH9XpQDfOMdDsDvbC63HM0hnc9Ds4jOh5Y8qoF3/ p/8jcz1nrIMQyrJXOl3Tm8lUwi8Z/id1aXYlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Q5IgU2adIddJWwS4BB8Wbcb+AKhO7d5YxFRwCOSq3RvmSRLEkjwcSK4+LieslA6cYn wZOKaaMggG8FfWDAXnH1NKzleNl1UDx5mXffKu84KwivPY6KejjC3jJzKHsc6qprbxfp sRXJCMqlWRaMxjB6UDaTLRIh96sHvIOsFEIy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.121.19 with SMTP id y19mr966044mum.56.1233394240918; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:30:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:30:40 +0200 Message-ID: From: thanos trompoukis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: /usr and /var was not properly dismounted...! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:58:47 -0000 Hi I am NEW here and I do not know anything about unix sytems... :D But i'd like to learn! When I start my freebsd system I can see this: WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted...! WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted...! and I have no idea about it..... Could you give me an explain to understand the situation and fix the problem? thanx! thanos. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 10:09:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059E7106564A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A208FC08 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.138] (helo=smtp7.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LTCmt-0005sf-Gd; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:09:19 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp7.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LTCmp-0006YF-5M; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:09:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.13.81] (iPod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.81]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ABD39841; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:09:03 +0100 (CET) References: Message-Id: <39BBFBB1-C793-4A2B-90C1-294719B89C86@boosten.org> From: Peter Boosten To: thanos trompoukis In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5H11) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:09:01 +0100 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1LTCmp-0006YF-5M X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.913, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: /usr and /var was not properly dismounted...! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:09:21 -0000 On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:30, thanos trompoukis wrote: > Hi I am NEW here and I do not know anything about unix sytems... :D > > But i'd like to learn! > > > > > > When I start my freebsd system I can see this: > > > WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted...! > WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted...! > > > > > and I have no idea about it..... > Could you give me an explain to understand the situation and fix the > problem? > > thanx! > thanos. > How did you stop the last time? This happens when FreeBSD (or any other un*x) wasn't able to shutdown properly. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 10:24:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1102C106566C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: from web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.85.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1ABE8FC12 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: (qmail 8079 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2009 10:24:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: QgGBg1AVM1n5EGN1e2ulFZyCSXg6wJHwiTC4z7YgqNWSSZKywYuIDGiP5H.2lzewWH2b6k4MUIKfwoXN7ogdCPm.O3mPCG5dNnvAyYU7P2uHPt5uJZno5186nE3iIo2aw7iqtuM7UmUfPSljOhYwYbL.2S1_7fokqNaVhNRetPRXEJzu2utqawDpcPVf3ccpX1Wm0oGrC0b4dQIzrdpBVk3hm9H9 Received: from [69.43.143.59] by web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:24:13 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:24:13 -0800 (PST) From: Gabe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <50265.96017.qm@web83816.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <692674.7044.qm@web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: atacontrol + highpoint raid & hot-swappable bays = reboot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nrml@att.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:24:14 -0000 --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Gabe wrote: > From: Gabe > Subject: atacontrol + highpoint raid & hot-swappable bays = reboot? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 2:40 AM > Hello list, > > I've come upon a problem I've googled the daylights > out of, further I've read atacontrol(8) up and down > without success. My goal is simple, I have a supermicro 1U > with hot-swappable drive bays which hold 2 SATA drives that > are connected to a PCI highpoint rocket raid card. I need to > be able to simulate a failure on HDD1 (drive bay 2) and > I've been trying to do it by following the handbook > here: [18.4.3] > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/raid.html > to no avail. > > atacontrol detach ata3 > > > > atacontrol attach ata3 > command> > atacontrol addspare ar0 ata3 > > Now this is when I encounter a "Device Busy" > error. In order to recover from this I've tried > detaching and attaching to no avail, rebooting just makes > atacontrol status ar0 only show disk 1 even though disk 2 > (ata3) is listed in atacontrol list. > > See below for a transcript from the shell, hopefully > someone can provide some insight before I flip out. :) > > Thanks, > > /gabe > > atapci0@pci0:1:3:0: class=0x010400 card=0x00011103 > chip=0x00051103 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Triones Technologies Inc. > (HighPoint)' > device = 'HPT372x UDMA/ATA133 RAID > Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = RAID > > Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac kernel: hptrr: HPT RocketRAID > controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 19:59:27) > Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac kernel: ar0: 76319MB v2 RocketRAID RAID1> status: READY > > Script started on Fri Jan 30 02:21:01 2009 > amnesiac# atacontrol list > > ATA channel 0: > > Master: no device present > > Slave: no device present > > ATA channel 1: > > Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 0 > > Slave: no device present > > ATA channel 2: > > Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 > > Slave: no device present > > ATA channel 3: > > Master: ad6 Serial ATA v1.0 > > Slave: no device present > > amnesiac# atacontrol status ar0 > > ar0: ATA RAID1 status: READY > > subdisks: > > 0 ad6 ONLINE > > 1 ad4 ONLINE > > amnesiac# atacontrol detach ata2 > > amnesiac# tail -n5 /var/log/messages > > Jan 30 02:19:00 amnesiac savecore: no dumps found > > Jan 30 02:19:39 amnesiac login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 > > Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror > protection lost. RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode > > Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: subdisk4: detached > > Jan 30 02:21:38 amnesiac kernel: ad4: detached > > amnesiac# atacontrol attach ata2 > > Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 > > Slave: no device present > > amnesiac# atacontrol status ar0 > > ar0: ATA RAID1 status: DEGRADED > > subdisks: > > 0 ad6 ONLINE > > 1 ---- MISSING > > amnesiac# atacontrol list > > ATA channel 0: > > Master: no device present > > Slave: no device present > > ATA channel 1: > > Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 0 > > Slave: no device present > > ATA channel 2: > > Master: ad4 Serial ATA v1.0 > > Slave: no device present > > ATA channel 3: > > Master: ad6 Serial ATA v1.0 > > Slave: no device present > > amnesiac# atacontrol addspare ar0 ad4 > > atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDADDSPARE): Device busy > > amnesiac# ^Dexit > > Script done on Fri Jan 30 02:22:47 2009 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Oh man, so we're all stumped? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 10:44:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60187106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pinhead@bluebook.stderror.at) Received: from stdin.stderror.at (stdin.stderror.at [83.65.196.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071578FC0A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pinhead@bluebook.stderror.at) Received: from bluebook.stderror.at (83-65-196-93.work.xdsl-line.inode.at [83.65.196.93]) by stdin.stderror.at (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DF7854509F; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:44:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: <877i4bwy9q.wl%pinhead@bluebook.stderror.at> From: Toni Schmidbauer To: thanos trompoukis In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust Emacs Organization: stderror.at X-WWW-Home-Page: http://stderror.at X-PGP-Fingerprint: 53F2 28AE 8070 83E0 AFEC 0ABC BBF9 A34A 3ED1 3287 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr and /var was not properly dismounted...! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:44:20 -0000 At Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:30:40 +0200, thanos trompoukis wrote: > WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted...! > WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted...! generally this happens if you just turn of your computer without a proper 'shutdown -h now'. FreeBSD has to write cached filesystem data from memory to the disk before a shutdown. if the system is switched off before this sync, there is the possibility that your filesystem is in an inconsistent state. are you using soft-updates on this filesystem? you can check this with the mount commando, for example: /dev/mirror/rm0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) if yes you should see a background fsck process running (check with 'ps ax | grep fsck') after the system boots. Check /var/log/messages to see if there are any messages from fsck. to be sure you can also boot the system into single user mode (use menu item 4 on the FreeBSD boot screen) an run fsck manually (e.g. 'fsck /dev/ad0s1f' where ad0s1f should be replaced with the actual mount point of your /usr filesystem. maybe fsck has to fix the filesystem and will ask some questions that you should answer with 'y'. a second run of fsck is not required but does not hurt just to be sure the filesystem is consistent. after that you can just 'exit' the single user shell to continue booting or reboot the system again. remember to always use 'shutdown -h' or 'shutdown -p'. please also consult the FreeBSD handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ which contains a lot of information for newcomers. there are also excellent books about FreeBSD available, just search amazon. hth toni -- Don't forget, there is no security | toni at stderror dot at -- Wulfgar | Toni Schmidbauer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 10:46:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C29106566B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mo-p00-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E968FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 X-RZG-AUTH: :LWgJfE6Id/4Sm/WkdV0gEbKL+/p/UjmosA/b4BPf1Ida/LA6f2WjvdsA Received: from athena.laverenz.de (77-22-194-90-dynip.superkabel.de [77.22.194.90]) by post.strato.de (klopstock mo38) (RZmta 18.15) with ESMTP id j024b6l0V9SllU ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:46:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D71F127BF2; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:45:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06527-06-4; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:45:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.23.143] (unknown [192.168.23.143]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07745127BF1; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:45:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49842C0E.8050902@laverenz.de> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:46:38 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa References: <20090130160750.GA15557@laverenz.de> <49835D1D.6070504@laverenz.de> <4983F044.1020804@pukruppa.net> In-Reply-To: <4983F044.1020804@pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:46:43 -0000 Peter Ulrich Kruppa schrieb: > That's a really "thin" client and it seems to work (for me - I can logon > to my wifes Debian machine). Yes, this works because Debian still uses GDM 2.20. :) The new GDM 2.24 is broken on _both_ sides (local and remote): - there is no XDMCP-Chooser anymore on the local side ("rewritten" ;)) - GDM does not listen to XDMCP requests on the remote side (this is a bug I think, not "rewritten) Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 12:26:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14B1065670 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f16.google.com (mail-bw0-f16.google.com [209.85.218.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2FB8FC20 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so317570bwz.19 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:26:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:x-stationery:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0TdpJkz6uV8YtLqopmjLeB822R/+yUa0gbBCnDX36vE=; b=dhkQT3U4PbnGeRX5Z0emiODQsujNaicVWLq3QcfqP8FZeytlvKBuDNJLYWQ4/4/jQl dI4gSO/fjOTieLa5O+pMu/r4klmmLrhl5yOkxbpoBtGbcvb9ic7SZX0JJVo6h4qvlsv1 H4TWyLmaEBGiuqsnYqIaAN9E8xDrgcECV7XAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp :x-stationery:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R91VwFKfZPKlzqx0VAtbk4VSlZ2JQteLx4fUoXP6LVVEyXS0ZKz7I2YTzS+2wFW9je S9mZQcP8gZZRJ5qDfz2vt93XXtu1z2grhNNiNeCl8KakuoeZkgg5DDSKj/n3pcLA6HV3 Vh64JqxaO0FfCvhdxYhsmLhFNxXGwk58g4a28= Received: by 10.181.226.5 with SMTP id d5mr829912bkr.116.1233403408579; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.67.7? ([95.132.148.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d13sm2530648fka.20.2009.01.31.04.03.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:03:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49843E0A.4080409@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:03:22 +0200 From: Bogdan Potishuk Organization: Phoenix Lab. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Isaac Mabapa References: <850e315e0901300204o6894384fxc1e50a44706c65b0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <850e315e0901300204o6894384fxc1e50a44706c65b0@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=2569D30B; url=http://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0x84B8D5142569D30B X-Stationery: 0.4.8.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nagios-3.0.6 [Segmentation fault] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:26:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Isaac Mabapa said the following on 30.01.2009 12:04: > Hi > > I'm having a problem with trying to start nagios-3.0.6 with embedded perl. > I'm running freebsd 7.1-RELEASE-p2 with perl-5.8.9. > when i try to start nagios i get this error. > > Performing sanity check of nagios configuration: OK > Starting nagios. > Segmentation fault > > is this this a known bug ? Hi. This bug was recently discussed in freebsd-ports. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=524413+527152+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-ports/20090125.freebsd-ports - -- Regards, Bogdan Potishuk - --------------------------------------------------------------- KeyID: 0x84B8D5142569D30B Fingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B Keyserver: keyserver.pgp.com - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREKAAYFAkmEPgoACgkQhLjVFCVp0wtrvgCg+d5AQVPVgUjTqSafQCYgFpWt AjMAn0abbBgUzpMmCvXyNu7JbLglLKLC =1RTw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 13:09:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E771065677 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172228FC1B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so1604857qyk.19 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:09:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=iC4zzhuaSH+/ED8edjNWdegcLyYzR59UDtjnR4HisJs=; b=DpxvNNnPu4pjivyXTzE44emlLjGn73iHCBMmUQ5MjZtNlcIC8iHPlNznOG9dgW69Lx ILIxqr++59GWXkIdRAx+RxqwSYpalYyaq0JLbSVusIxgWSYhN1JNHgxriOutPHEu4oSu tEQaIpQbghcZDxRLDlEfEvJbNyWoLlKRTUoYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=xHRfpoSBBTgaYQIYO7tTpvXRXCpXNqNtEyZT7rrHn/kfqROviVIyYZJrTUlg3+KxLH 9wNNHZz5G28ZZVkUtqmbKOuVj1J8yuxj1I0pjSvdwV5atqZ2nmE/4UiSyJiyiZ8/U0Gs Vr91rviwfCoIPp+XSz9d6cOPqUIbCEtd/EeJ0= Received: by 10.214.114.21 with SMTP id m21mr1308324qac.307.1233407361355; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix (n2-59-213.dhcp.drexel.edu [144.118.59.213]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm324959yxm.34.2009.01.31.05.09.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:09:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:09:17 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Antonio Rieser Message-ID: <20090131130917.GA7835@phoenix> References: <58a2fd890901302347v30eb8f0ane6d0510e23136a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58a2fd890901302347v30eb8f0ane6d0510e23136a1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:09:22 -0000 Antonio Rieser said: > I'm running FreeBSD 7.1 on an ACER Aspire > 1680 laptop. Something is writing so many > errors to my Xorg.0.log and kdm-bin.log files > that it fills up the /var filesystem and locks my system. > (I just had my first encounter with the fixit disk - scary > but successful...) > > I've enclosed the output of > dmesg (starting at my most recent boot, without > my Wacom tablet or any USB devices), followed by > an excerpt of the Xorg.0.log.old file. > The errors at the end of the latter are repeated > until the end of the file. > > The errors always begin after some lines about the > Wacom tablet. Is that a coincidence or a probable cause? > If Xorg can't find a tablet device (Wacom), it will show errors about it, which you can avoid by commenting out wacom devices in xorg.conf. Have these problems recently surfaced after upgrading Xorg to 7.4? If so, did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 13:39:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B29510656BA for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD578FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35A95360EF for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:23:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33618-09 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:23:36 -0400 (AST) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6ACBF5360DB; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:23:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696AA5360BF for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:23:36 -0400 (AST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:23:36 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090131091825.R90262@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Load balancing multiple virtual hosts on 1 IP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:39:43 -0000 Simple: is it possible? I have two VMs that contain the same content, on two different IPs .. I want to setup a third VM with something like haproxy on it that will take the URL (http://domain1) and pull the content from one or the other ... So far, all works well if I only have one virtual host, but as soon as I add a second one (http://domain2), when I try to go to http://domain2, it pulls up the content for domain1 also, as if I was going to http://IP instead. Is there a way to set this up (with haproxy, or some other software), that it will actually pass the URL through to the backend apache server and load up the right content? Or is this a limitation in the protocol itself?/ Thx ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 13:42:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AB91065692 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hg@queue.to) Received: from pickle.queue.to (pickle.queue.to [71.180.69.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376F18FC21 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hg@queue.to) Received: (qmail 61781 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2009 08:16:13 -0500 Received: from cally.queue.to (172.16.0.6) by with ESMTP; 31 Jan 2009 08:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: <49844F1D.4040201@queue.to> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:16:13 -0500 From: Howard Goldstein User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsdemail@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5cdef660901310120s264fe9d0t7c177853642b3355@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5cdef660901310120s264fe9d0t7c177853642b3355@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Autolearn=fail SpamAssassin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:42:55 -0000 Tom Stuart wrote: > Hello, I just installed SpamAssassin on FreeBSD 7.1 and am > encountering an error with autolearn. 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See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutolearningNotWorking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 13:48:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BA71065674 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E3E8FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LTGCW-0000Pl-D2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:48:03 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LTGCR-0006Yj-98 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:47:55 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VDls6C066734 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:47:54 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0VDlorq066733 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:47:50 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:47:50 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090131134750.GA66686@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20090130153128.GA82736@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <4983713E.5010800@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4983713E.5010800@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: Re: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:48:05 -0000 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:29:34PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:46:14PM +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Today I upgraded my system (ports) so I got x.org 7.4 installed. > >> > >> Given the various entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the recent > >> updates for xorg I wonder what the correct settings/combinations are > >> for my installation: > >> > >> I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable="YES" as > >> well as moused (moused_enable=YES in rc.conf). > > > > what??? where's hald_enable="YES" documented? > > There's nothing about this in X, dbus, or hald manual pages. > > Perhaps this is why my X servers won't work and dbus keeps complaining > > that it cannot connect.. > > > > rc.conf(5) in the general sense and in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald specifically. sure, what I meant is where is it documented that X requires hald? thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 13:55:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5431A10656C9 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D7B8FC27 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VDtErL078744; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:55:15 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0VDtErL078744 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1233410115; bh=v02lJpc6x+ROyY2zHlSRLe589KettuDecwsWn8Run0U=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4984583C.2030409@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2031=20Jan=202009=2013:55:08=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090125)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20"Marc=20G.=20Fournier"=20|CC:=20 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Load=20balancing=20 multiple=20virtual=20hosts=20on=201=20IP|References:=20<2009013109 1825.R90262@hub.org>|In-Reply-To:=20<20090131091825.R90262@hub.org >|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B =20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-sign ature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigDD320FDD9ADB600BFD00 B18F"; b=SoHBA0Ck4NBNEg/5GZJkTqzCkLoW+xyeGSg0I8s0Je6sml5/BpnmehUkd1vFkW3Qr pre+9mXRPfO4JeJZDa/1jkwkP1PHrE5Zm+Jdeh1rKUP4pSqi/fk67WDtcI7qojXkpN cc7ja+jhYuPQxWqWubuz5MC3Iap04l0exSz+01+s= Message-ID: <4984583C.2030409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:55:08 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20090131091825.R90262@hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20090131091825.R90262@hub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDD320FDD9ADB600BFD00B18F" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:55:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8929/Sat Jan 31 03:20:45 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Load balancing multiple virtual hosts on 1 IP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:55:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDD320FDD9ADB600BFD00B18F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc G. Fournier wrote: >=20 > Simple: is it possible? >=20 > I have two VMs that contain the same content, on two different IPs .. I= =20 > want to setup a third VM with something like haproxy on it that will=20 > take the URL (http://domain1) and pull the content from one or the othe= r=20 > ... >=20 > So far, all works well if I only have one virtual host, but as soon as = I=20 > add a second one (http://domain2), when I try to go to http://domain2, = > it pulls up the content for domain1 also, as if I was going to http://I= P=20 > instead. >=20 > Is there a way to set this up (with haproxy, or some other software),=20 > that it will actually pass the URL through to the backend apache server= =20 > and load up the right content? Or is this a limitation in the protocol= =20 > itself?/ This is certainly possible -- most of the world's big web sites work in exactly this way, although they would tend to use dedicated hardware LB if they were of any appreciable size. I think what's going wrong for you is that you are using a front-end prox= y, and it's rewriting the requests with the host names of the real servers, which will certainly screw up name based virtual hosts. Instead of ha-proxy, look into relayd -- in conjunction with a pf(4) firewall this will do exactly what you want. It can operate purely at th= e IP level or even at layer 2 if you want to implement DSR. Another alternative to consider is varnish, although I'm not sure that has much in the way of health-checking the back-end servers behind it. varnish is a reverse-proxy / web accelerator so can give you some performance boost as well. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDD320FDD9ADB600BFD00B18F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkmEWEIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwdwgCaA1VU1lH/4n0N6O+hG1sXrj7D dt8An0zHgiH2bCI4es07CGKLmvXnkKK9 =7HS/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDD320FDD9ADB600BFD00B18F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 13:58:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5511210656E5 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62158FC1A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VDvx1Q078768; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:57:59 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0VDvx1Q078768 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1233410279; bh=Qc6RaZ+/cDH7Pbuy3Qqux3v6xJyKgclTla6OJYd3ESI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<498458E6.7020108@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2031=20Jan=202009=2013:57:58=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090125)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Anton=20Shterenlikht=20|CC:= 20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20X.org-update=20-> =20screen=20garbled=20/=20settings=20for=20xorg.conf?|References:= 20<20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at>=09<20090130153128.GA82 736@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>=09<4983713E.5010800@infracanin ophile.co.uk>=20<20090131134750.GA66686@mech-cluster238.men.bris.a c.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<20090131134750.GA66686@mech-cluster238.men.b ris.ac.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/ signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application /pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigDB1E00A6507 B634D4743B5A6"; b=wme5UQDG4XyDdz0vINXPRLJHXgjyHBMzcuLgrfybtEf2yFs3tBktNJ81Y+UaqZKnf eNJhAgNhWWKwLbaYQWaFfocNLwR2dmtm2g7rWEuCmA0YDcmCxdfC7W2EDihJ6bT0tq fuNoW7FAL7mpQLXXmxSXYyMamvOyzPDhe6DqXJWk= Message-ID: <498458E6.7020108@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:57:58 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20090130153128.GA82736@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <4983713E.5010800@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20090131134750.GA66686@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090131134750.GA66686@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDB1E00A6507B634D4743B5A6" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:57:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8929/Sat Jan 31 03:20:45 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:58:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDB1E00A6507B634D4743B5A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:29:34PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:46:14PM +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Today I upgraded my system (ports) so I got x.org 7.4 installed. >>>> >>>> Given the various entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the recent >>>> updates for xorg I wonder what the correct settings/combinations are= >>>> for my installation: >>>> >>>> I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable=3D"YES" a= s >>>> well as moused (moused_enable=3DYES in rc.conf). >>> what??? where's hald_enable=3D"YES" documented? >>> There's nothing about this in X, dbus, or hald manual pages. >>> Perhaps this is why my X servers won't work and dbus keeps complainin= g >>> that it cannot connect.. >>> >> rc.conf(5) in the general sense and in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald specif= ically. >=20 > sure, what I meant is where is it documented that X requires hald? It's the way the xorg-server port threw up an OPTIONS dialogue saying "do= you want hald support" that tipped me off... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDB1E00A6507B634D4743B5A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkmEWOcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxzxQCaAgjUAlIWcd8Ke969DcA+UIWv WhEAnj3WjZbEba555nrQk4/alB/YYOIF =uguK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDB1E00A6507B634D4743B5A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 15:41:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876DD1065690 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306FA8FC08 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.2.171] (c-71-56-39-94.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [71.56.39.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VFAHwX077510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:10:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Alex Goncharov In-Reply-To: References: <49837CFD.4080603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-jWFDHpA5MOoX4ySEL3HZ" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:10:37 -0500 Message-Id: <1233414638.1554.4.camel@ferret.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade desaster: Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:41:13 -0000 --=-jWFDHpA5MOoX4ySEL3HZ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 18:23 -0500, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/O. (Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:19:41 +0100) ----* > | After upgrading one of my FreeBSD 8.0-CUR/amd64 boxes to new xorg-7.4 > | and having done hurting recompiling nearly everything/package twice now > | firefox3 still doesn't work properly and hits me when starting with thi= s > | error message: > |=20 > | Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". >=20 > Interesting -- I just did my comprehensive upgrade, as a part of which > xorg-server went from 1.5.3_1,1 to 1.5.3_2,1. >=20 > And this is what I see now, for the first time, and consistently: >=20 > ---------------------------------------- > $ xterm& > [3] 12585 >=20 > $ emacs & =20 > [4] 12644 > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". This is harmless, it indicates that libXext has support for generic events, but the server does not yet. robert. > ---------------------------------------- >=20 > The garbage still pollutes my windows periodically, so, I guess, my > next xorg-server will be 1.4. >=20 > For reference, my system is: >=20 > i386 FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE Sun Jan 25 06:28:38 EST 2009 >=20 > It not being CURRENT, I took the liberty of cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org= . >=20 > -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-jWFDHpA5MOoX4ySEL3HZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkmEae0ACgkQM4TrQ4qfROPjWwCfUwdvKXe7LhZNCLr18f/mO1vD PDUAnj0xZ7+bF46uC0I021tIc74eHem9 =q30l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jWFDHpA5MOoX4ySEL3HZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 16:09:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D9C10656D6 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B508FC16 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LTIPi-0003LJ-3y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:47 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LTIPd-00009n-Cd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:41 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VG9ehW067153 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:40 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0VG9dHF067152 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:39 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:39 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090131160939.GA67127@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: installworld fails - nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: too many levels of symbolic links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:09:49 -0000 I'm upgrading from 7.1-prerelease to 7.1-stable. I followed the manual. make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, reboot, make installworld fails with install: /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: Too many levels of symbolic links *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/share/timedef. *** Error code 1 What's the problem? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 16:18:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E60E10656CD for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43E78FC21 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so903379wfg.7 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:18:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/rhHa+8iqx9ArpfOJkBEIDzBgm8Om2DdeBAOXYDXzt0=; b=EVlaq7pch37+3PzaxcrPcTpkJp8egGDjoQdIsGIkxLd3smaOS9pwoU1qkydWEuC7Vv EabiPhzPMXni0hmsqA8y3tV8iGlH+8W5Ie/oUwd/m6sPqjRrx8GKt1yRHJDHX+q8z6mI qAsUInwvs4XmstwgwyxkyYlMns1jp5IBmNOfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cgB8lj4zzrzgKLzkc3043a2iAnVNyHqqw9dcQFWaUH5tvd56EYpX5l4b5orQur1Ys2 zjzY6v52AMYrLHmuGZoojc89uzUjiIhaviP1MtqwcWJP9ICfUyM7ERWTYIkL/DPoYJfv PMW4/8HZMI1Dw0aS8NZV0zXAQJPvewo3XfTCQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.157.9 with SMTP id f9mr1009470wfe.341.1233418692633; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:18:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090131130917.GA7835@phoenix> References: <58a2fd890901302347v30eb8f0ane6d0510e23136a1@mail.gmail.com> <20090131130917.GA7835@phoenix> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:18:12 -0500 Message-ID: <58a2fd890901310818h52ac046bs86c9c98e2780b07@mail.gmail.com> From: Antonio Rieser To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:18:13 -0000 Hi, Thanks for the note. X11 normally finds the tablet fine, and I quite like using it, so I'd rather not comment out the lines in xorg.conf. The entire system is a new install, so there doesn't seem to be an updating issue, and, in any case, there's nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING regarding xorg that seems relevant. It does, however, seem to be a problem with interaction between the tablet and xorg (and maybe the usb system). If I boot without having plugged in the wacom tablet, I get the lines I've included below in my Xorg.0.log. It doesn't seem to write more than this, however, so it doesn't fill up /var. However, if I plug it in and logout, restarting X11/KDE/KDM, then I get the error messages from my first message, which eventually crash my system, but until then, the tablet itself works fine. Two more points: 1) If I boot with the tablet plugged in, everything is fine. 2) If I remove the tablet from the computer (I've only tried it during an X session), the system panics and shuts down. Should I repost this thread to freebsd-ports or freebsd-usb? Thanks again for any help! All the best, Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------- Enclosed below are the error messages at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log after booting without the tablet plugged in: ------------------------------------------------------------------- (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: always reports core events (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" (==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4, 5, 6 and 7 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 11 (**) Mouse0: Sensitivity: 1 (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled (**) Option "SendCoreEvents" (**) stylus: always reports core events (**) stylus device is /dev/event0 (**) stylus is in absolute mode (**) WACOM: suppress value is 2 (**) Option "USB" "on" (**) stylus: reading USB link (**) /dev/event0: Touch capacity is enabled (**) Option "BaudRate" "9600" (**) Option "SendCoreEvents" (**) eraser: always reports core events (**) eraser device is /dev/event0 (**) eraser is in absolute mode (**) WACOM: suppress value is 2 (**) Option "USB" "on" (**) eraser: reading USB link (**) /dev/event0: Touch capacity is enabled (**) Option "BaudRate" "9600" (**) Option "SendCoreEvents" (**) cursor: always reports core events (**) cursor device is /dev/event0 (**) cursor is in relative mode (**) WACOM: suppress value is 2 (**) Option "USB" "on" (**) cursor: reading USB link (**) /dev/event0: Touch capacity is enabled (**) Option "BaudRate" "9600" (**) Option "SendCoreEvents" (**) pad: always reports core events (**) pad device is /dev/event0 (**) pad is in relative mode (**) WACOM: suppress value is 2 (**) Option "USB" "on" (**) pad: reading USB link (**) /dev/event0: Touch capacity is enabled (**) Option "BaudRate" "9600" (II) evaluating device (pad) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "pad" (type: Wacom Pad) (II) evaluating device (cursor) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "cursor" (type: Wacom Cursor) (II) evaluating device (eraser) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "eraser" (type: Wacom Eraser) (II) evaluating device (stylus) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "stylus" (type: Wacom Stylus) (II) evaluating device (Keyboard0) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) evaluating device (Mouse0) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (**) Option "Device" "/dev/event0" (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (**) Option "Device" "/dev/event0" (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (**) Option "Device" "/dev/event0" (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (**) Option "Device" "/dev/event0" (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (EE) intel(0): tried to update DSPARB with both planes enabled! (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "LGP", prod id 1623 (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "LGP", prod id 1623 (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/event0 No such file or directory. Error opening /dev/event0 : Unknown error: 0 All the best, Tony On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > Antonio Rieser said: >> I'm running FreeBSD 7.1 on an ACER Aspire >> 1680 laptop. Something is writing so many >> errors to my Xorg.0.log and kdm-bin.log files >> that it fills up the /var filesystem and locks my system. >> (I just had my first encounter with the fixit disk - scary >> but successful...) >> >> I've enclosed the output of >> dmesg (starting at my most recent boot, without >> my Wacom tablet or any USB devices), followed by >> an excerpt of the Xorg.0.log.old file. >> The errors at the end of the latter are repeated >> until the end of the file. >> >> The errors always begin after some lines about the >> Wacom tablet. Is that a coincidence or a probable cause? >> > > If Xorg can't find a tablet device (Wacom), it will show errors about > it, which you can avoid by commenting out wacom devices in xorg.conf. > > Have these problems recently surfaced after upgrading Xorg to 7.4? > > If so, did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > -- > Glen Barber > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 17:00:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405F11065686 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DE28FC1C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C6CAFC204; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:00:58 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:00:58 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090131160939.GA67127@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090131160939.GA67127@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901310800.58267.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: installworld fails - nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: too many levels of symbolic links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:00:59 -0000 On Saturday 31 January 2009 07:09:39 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm upgrading from 7.1-prerelease to 7.1-stable. I followed the manual. > make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, reboot, > make installworld fails with > > install: /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: Too many levels of > symbolic links Can you provide output of: ls -l /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.IS8859-1/LC_TIME -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 17:01:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2121065672 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3B68FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so1711835qyk.19 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:01:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=IUw9c9QBuDE/9R2vC+CASxr6J6BfaHDramb1MhLe6eE=; b=BUZuHYfoCGCo0jHgyk9fGNT5SRfN6sp+7aOh5gImQyloUS1D7bqVybmnsxRGHr5Mrk 7jNYqY+Rj97ngNHHofEfzJrBVpth5Sy0IYvjo0mmuKm8l+wM7YT5EMrnuwtoBIsVcE/1 GLVPYYNlMmPhWgP0TIICC2lquJ7BJClKrH2dU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=RUN/1Kd4B+Q7PY8jlWZPybhgqrUduabML9dY+Ixb5amWfn2dWcjvs9wcS7VmBloGqH jK/+TEnta2YKL2Fcsg6QjAbndCpGN1jrPvtNZRVxpz6usYSodr+bb6GELeTY3AaOigKS shPwMdu6o3+KVJfGxiZ/RUDOzKUiVx/vSjSxo= Received: by 10.214.147.8 with SMTP id u8mr3985989qad.129.1233421294305; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix (n2-59-213.dhcp.drexel.edu [144.118.59.213]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2573925yxq.26.2009.01.31.09.01.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:01:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:01:30 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Antonio Rieser Message-ID: <20090131170130.GA7010@phoenix> References: <58a2fd890901302347v30eb8f0ane6d0510e23136a1@mail.gmail.com> <20090131130917.GA7835@phoenix> <58a2fd890901310818h52ac046bs86c9c98e2780b07@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58a2fd890901310818h52ac046bs86c9c98e2780b07@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:01:35 -0000 Antonio Rieser said: > 1) If I boot with the tablet plugged in, everything is fine. > 2) If I remove the tablet from the computer (I've only tried it during > an X session), the system panics and shuts down. Removing USB devices without cleanly disabling the device will do that, but I've personally only seen it using flash drives and such. I have no tablet device(s) to test with. > Should I repost this thread to freebsd-ports or freebsd-usb? No, but I think you may want to reconsider the Subject: line of this email, as you may get more responses. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 17:14:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C28110656C0 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89848FC14 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCD5AFC204; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:14:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:14:23 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090130154311.GA7964@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200901301123.35763.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090131082210.GA3662@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090131082210.GA3662@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901310814.23334.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: gsasl 0.2.28_1 does not link in 7.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:14:25 -0000 On Friday 30 January 2009 23:22:10 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, January 30, 2009 a las 11:23:35AM -0900, Mel escribi=F3: > > On Friday 30 January 2009 06:43:11 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Any idea about the problem below? Thx > > > > > > matthias > > > > > > # cd /usr/ports/security/gsasl > > > # make > > > =3D=3D=3D> Building for gsasl-0.2.28_1 > > ... > > > > Making all in src > > > make all-am > > > /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=3DCC --mode=3Dlink cc -std=3Dgnu99 -O2 > > > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -L/usr/local/lib -o gsasl gsasl.o > > > gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o ../lib/src/libgsasl.la > > > ../gl/libgl.la -lreadline -L/usr/local/lib -lgnutls -lz > > > -L/usr/local/lib -lgcrypt -L/usr/local/lib -lgpg-error -L/usr/local/l= ib > > > -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -R/usr/local/lib > > > cc -std=3Dgnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -o .libs/gsasl gsasl.o > > > gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o callbacks.o -L/usr/local/lib > > > ../lib/src/.libs/libgsasl.so -L/usr/lib /usr/local/lib/libntlm.so > > > -lgssapi -lkrb5 -lasn1 -lcrypto -lroken -lcrypt -lcom_err > > > ../gl/.libs/libgl.a -lreadline /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so -lz > > > /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so > > > /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -Wl,--rpath > > > -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > > /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `init_error_table' > > > /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `initialize_error_table_r' > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Judging from the manpage, it's not supposed to be linked directly, but > > using -lbsnmp. But your linkline is far more complex then mine. Which of > > the dependencies did you enable kerberos and snmp support? > > Hi Mel, > > I've to admit that I don't understand your question. The above problem > comes up when I've tried to compile the port net-im/jabberd with default > options (make install BATCH=3Dyes) which seems to need gsasl. > > And yes, I've ported before as well security/krb5 (but not explicitely > snmp, but it is installed by some other port as net-snmp-5.4.2.1), and the > security/krb5 port also with default options; > > what do you want me todo or check in detail? thanks in advance The reason I ask is that I'd like to be able to reproduce your problem and= =20 therefore need the configuration of dependencies. My options don't contain= =20 krb and snmp linking,so somewhere down the line of dependencies I disabled= =20 them. Could you show output of: make -C /usr/ports/security/gsasl showconfig-recursive and trim ports that don't contain krb/gssapi or snmp as the output can be=20 quite long. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 17:16:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7165106570D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FC18FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD29AFC204; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:16:17 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:16:16 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090130144614.GA4897@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20090131134750.GA66686@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <498458E6.7020108@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <498458E6.7020108@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901310816.17017.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: X.org-update -> screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:16:18 -0000 On Saturday 31 January 2009 04:57:58 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:29:34PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:46:14PM +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Today I upgraded my system (ports) so I got x.org 7.4 installed. > >>>> > >>>> Given the various entries in /usr/ports/UPDATING about the recent > >>>> updates for xorg I wonder what the correct settings/combinations are > >>>> for my installation: > >>>> > >>>> I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable="YES" as > >>>> well as moused (moused_enable=YES in rc.conf). > >>> > >>> what??? where's hald_enable="YES" documented? > >>> There's nothing about this in X, dbus, or hald manual pages. > >>> Perhaps this is why my X servers won't work and dbus keeps complaining > >>> that it cannot connect.. > >> > >> rc.conf(5) in the general sense and in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald > >> specifically. > > > > sure, what I meant is where is it documented that X requires hald? > > It's the way the xorg-server port threw up an OPTIONS dialogue saying "do > you want hald support" that tipped me off... It doesn't if you use BATCH and it's default, or if you configured it way back when, in the void between short-term and long-term memory. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 17:39:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4311065679 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187328FC16 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AEGa1b00K1HpZEsA5HfUxY; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:39:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([76.102.24.75]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AHfT1b0051dCpWs8aHfTXR; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:39:28 +0000 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:39:36 -0800 From: Rem P Roberti To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20090131173936.GA70841@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Message from daily output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:39:28 -0000 The daily output from crontab always includes this message repeated many times in a row: Jan 30 18:33:14 bsd kernel: lpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jan 30 18:33:14 bsd kernel: lpt0: [ITHREAD] Can someone give me a heads up on this. I have just recently installed my old laser printer via cups on lpt0. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 17:59:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F8110656FF for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (mail.oclc.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45058FC08 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10371; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:50:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-93-104-103-31.dynamic.mnet-online.de(93.104.103.31) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma010246; Sat, 31 Jan 09 18:50:09 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n0VHxNdX050489; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:59:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:59:23 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Mel Message-ID: <20090131175922.GA50313@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090130154311.GA7964@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200901301123.35763.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090131082210.GA3662@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200901310814.23334.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200901310814.23334.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gsasl 0.2.28_1 does not link in 7.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:59:55 -0000 El día Saturday, January 31, 2009 a las 08:14:23AM -0900, Mel escribió: > The reason I ask is that I'd like to be able to reproduce your problem and > therefore need the configuration of dependencies. My options don't contain > krb and snmp linking,so somewhere down the line of dependencies I disabled > them. In any case, thanks for spending your time on this; > > Could you show output of: > make -C /usr/ports/security/gsasl showconfig-recursive > > and trim ports that don't contain krb/gssapi or snmp as the output can be > quite long. it's quite short: # make -C /usr/ports/security/gsasl showconfig-recursive ===> The following configuration options are available for gsasl-0.2.28_1 and dependencies ===> The following configuration options are available for perl-5.8.9: DEBUGGING=off (default) "Build with debugging support" GDBM=off (default) "Build GDBM_File extension" PERL_MALLOC=on (default) "Use Perl malloc" PERL_64BITINT=on (default) "Use 64 bit integers (on i386)" THREADS=off (default) "Build threaded perl" SUIDPERL=off (default) "Build set-user-id suidperl binary" SITECUSTOMIZE=off (default) "Run-time customization of @INC" USE_PERL=on (default) "Rewrite links in /usr/bin" ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings ===> The following configuration options are available for libiconv-1.11_1: EXTRA_ENCODINGS=on (default) "Include extra character sets" EXTRA_PATCHES=off (default) "Apply patches to fix CP932 add EUCJP-MS" ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings # Hope this helps you; thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 18:11:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA541065688 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@newdigs.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B67D8FC18 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@newdigs.com) Received: from genoa (cpe-74-74-154-233.rochester.res.rr.com [74.74.154.233]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1LTK7Z2jss-00084N; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:59:11 -0500 From: "Daniel Mooney" To: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:58:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c983cd$972071b0$c5615510$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmDu+c42YL96OheS+GriNwkM6U5lw== Content-Language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Xe1qrW4iB3NK38P5cbPEiVj62chbvSm52pKT yH363P+XAABaOFGwAIiGq9psMCRmkr7qcmkPqnFuAiarcDK8di Go5D7fnUq+U9qLV1N2UJGyWL2LfOkvW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: freeBSD torrents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:11:44 -0000 Hello folks, I wanted to alert you to a possible update you could make on the site: make the torrent widely and obviously available. I have a Linksys by Cisco "business class" router that, for some reason or another, refuses to use FTP. So, cellular modem to the rescue, right? Well, at 60k/sec, the DVD image was looking like it'd take 6 hours to download. Thankfully, I just happened to search for FreeBSD torrents and found the 7.1 torrent linked from your site. This torrent should be directly linked from your "Getting FreeBSD" page, as a column to the right of "ISO", perhaps "ISO Torrent". I'm transferring at 1.1MB/sec, and needless to say, it'll be here in just a bit less than 6 hours. Thanks for reading, thanks for the (hopefully) killer OS. I'm hoping that FreeBSD will be the foundation upon which we'll have a world-class web site running. Thanks, Daniel Mooney daniel@newdigs.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 18:55:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4471065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs3.arnes.si (avs3.arnes.si [193.2.1.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D90B8FC0A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [193.2.1.68]) by avs3.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF6070094; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:35:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at arnes.si Received: from avs3.arnes.si ([193.2.1.68]) by localhost (avs3.arnes.si [193.2.1.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a8UtmXB7B19X; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:35:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs3.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9890870030; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:35:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.20.203] (unknown [192.168.20.203]) by xmail.homelinux.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C68C1CC1A; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:35:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498499F6.2090907@stupar.homelinux.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:35:34 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=A8A54308 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070909020107050701050908" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8929/Sat Jan 31 04:20:45 2009 on server.sosedi X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: APC PowerChute on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:55:03 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070909020107050701050908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 bsd pravi: > Hello, >=20 > I am trying to see if someone has already configured an APC PowerChute > software on FreeBSD. >=20 > There is a linux version, I was just wondering how to set It up on BSD > and if anyone has successfully installed such soft=85 >=20 > I have installed a BSD box in Angola in unstable electrical conditions,= > and I am afraid the server will be rebooted the "hard way" quite often > (without any warning) if I don't use this kind of soft=85 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks for your help. >=20 >=20 > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF > Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD > bsd @at@ todoo.biz > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >=20 > P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing > this e-mail" >=20 I am using from ports sysutils/apcupsd. 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--------------050807060108060909000105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *snipped* OK, so right now I've been reading this, and I had a look at the configuration file for FreeBSD-update, and it seems I could use that to test it out since I haven't really used it before, by basically running it with -r RELEASE and it would upgrade everything to that? also being from the Linux world, I'm having a slight bit of trouble understanding one part, which is what "upgrades" mean in BSD VS Linux. For example, on my Slackware boxes, I can do this to update / upgrade when a security problem is found and patched: upgradepkg name-of-package-slack12.tgz and it upgrades it. On here they have a different meaning though I THINK... I'm not positive yet if I'm understanding this right, or if I've gotten confused. I'm not giving up because I'm really enjoying how FreeBSD works, and always have loved it, and this time I've decided to take the time to learn how to run it properly, which is why the last two weeks, I've spent most of my time using it, asking questions on here, and reading my library of books on BSD, and reading the BSD web site in the handbook area so to not ask questions I can find easy. So, am I confusing these terms with how they work? Or..? Really I just want to make sure I have the security patches installed by running something I could maybe add to cron later, or make a very simple perl script, but if that isn't the best solution, at least I'd like to have security patches installed and have my machine up to date as much as possible with fixes. So, for making sure my machine is updated with the latest security patches and bug fixes, would CVS maybe be better, or FreeBSD-update? Or both? Also if I'm not getting annoying yet, which I may very well be heh, when it asks for RELEASE in FreeBSD-update, I know that STABLE is the stable and trusted one, and RELEASE is the latest one but is tested enough to be used, and then the bleeding edge one you shouldn't use.... Which would one pick who wanted to keep updated to do this with and not be totally insane? Thanks all, and apologies on length / number of questions. I'm just tryign to understand how it works so I can take some notes and remember for myself how it works without breaking it/ --------------050807060108060909000105 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: [Fwd: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE].eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename*0="Re: [Fwd: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEA"; filename*1="SE].eml" X-Account-Key: account2 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: sonic2000gr@gmail.com Received: from imta27.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (LHLO IMTA27.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.95) by sz0066.ev.mail.comcast.net with LMTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f19.google.com ([209.85.219.19]) by IMTA27.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9kzc1b00q0RiKHd0Tl08UQ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:00:08 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0eZeRF5pshkA:10 a=QQuHglDxTDkA:10 a=fOlWelpuo88OU0MHtxlzVg==:17 a=P8ZiBXKA7dsXfE95tL4A:9 a=HW_CxcnpDNAZydcO3GlGyZqeoo4A:4 a=WU_sd0P_5lsA:10 Received: by mail-ew0-f19.google.com with SMTP id 12so522007ewy.5 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:00:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8PXgZ0xyjWV8b1PzjaeIC6SSCEsVBCGrsVpqz9uNIyw=; b=snT0cT4dC1xOxXO+WpbEf2CLR7C612l4y4xSVZ7R1HauJZcZzpeJx14Wu7LNuqYe18 /ESG4BFXkx9bOkp7FTARQjeZkI9J5VQOGEttshilaD9q5uKkJcOGFtbB7D02f3eCow4Y L7+piXkl7sJGIkCS+Y1M1dUZirz1srz8NcqQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YLwtmffKwV4Xj5cckUJxYa6+WPYd+YHVljwsUxdwlam5jeWs/bKcOBJuLSO4l8MAOt TpY2vwrp9kChaCZAZoWmjlbSOs8eVLO5syH2woyDvLMpzD+h/niP+bf1dkaAki/tLNRx 7CpayiYFKblzzYj4S25edm65WgOzodeEv/nSg= Received: by 10.210.76.4 with SMTP id y4mr1094098eba.125.1233306006860; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:00:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-4557718.home.otenet.gr [94.70.87.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h1sm2091391nfh.63.2009.01.30.01.00.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:00:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4982C194.1060300@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:00:04 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Akenner CC: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE] References: <4982BA04.9020102@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4982BA04.9020102@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Akenner wrote: > Hi, > > I've continued reading to keep myself updated with info used, and I > have a few questions about what I've seen about freebsd-update: > > I've read not to use FreeBSD-update AND cvsup together, and so I've > decided to go along with this as to not cause problems for myself. > > Does FreeBSD-update have any benefit over the cvsup method? I've heard > you don't have to go single user and a few other things, but does it > have any actual benefit? > > Thanks, > > -Allen You don't have to recompile anything (can be lengthy esp. on older machines), the mergemaster step is usually a lot simpler and less tedious. Very useful for people tracking RELEASE and the security branch. You still need csup / cvsup to track STABLE or CURRENT though. --------------050807060108060909000105-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 18:55:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24539106567C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8078FC19 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so373220ywe.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:55:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MiEFcuv2JwqM7bG3WXdc9i3MK7hwvM290DLe0Qrmqks=; b=PFPSGvbmfhOVrL7OwHUH4BWhcQbFl71Xo0gvD0OUiiVcItGvkNda23ZwyWE8EqJDr2 K/9pLfuxXy/Cg7cjjV0w80bWE48REUVg2++8rEZRYB0/iiS5DZzLqCv3OCTmPEm2EtX2 +ac79iBuGIFCOnW30YoNN98NVvIfwXjtEVn+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=U4TH3Tt+2w4vekW6SyihFFsOKe1XWMlgSsC2L5Hqnle9TCSRk6j+N68xsO2hONwHCQ oKKBlJY8ntkZi2JP8Ub04Zk3LRyT7RU5N9BmtO5p0EWzakaf9FBLsHwE67bkztSW0sDo cp0Mlb1fMEvWlAh45izcFaVY8fnTB62J59a68= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.18.130 with SMTP id w2mr229557iba.11.1233428149984; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:55:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <000001c983cd$972071b0$c5615510$@com> References: <000001c983cd$972071b0$c5615510$@com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:55:49 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Daniel Mooney Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freeBSD torrents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:55:52 -0000 http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ Been up there for a while, couple years. It's just not advertized very well, and I think it's not hosted on the FreeBSD servers Sometimes it's down... was just up when I posted this. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 19:09:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E1D10656FB for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3B98FC1D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so373643yxb.13 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:09:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=79E8dOydB5UyPxmr5OBsyZlFdHiRwoR5OghHM7wL3Kg=; b=OQDjOJE3tCl2VzWOOQnLksxX+2USBYUDcKRMoRwHc44ExG8g4sTLKiWmjU9jhcstL/ iVKVIfC8TLVYsaCjTilg648kZdu7YtA89XWWyNjeyj681V5Ief3FIwwA9TEK10LWVX2m xKHa9saRxitsOEjLw9E/Cb+YTkl75TV/cA6KE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lCD1LuDmq9w9je/9/ZiYjV1CbpB3QiKYYN/HB/8A8IKsB79f5f/+f3kP95vPJulsax ExUbgXl/GXrqzqu9seKd6nT+SmcaFgJd5429j903Y9SUoTMioJZ2AU++4y/tcT4SlSGY +tjK35SRgI09o5czHQEG+wW1QZr45LdUmBU6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.30.198 with SMTP id v6mr326326ibc.26.1233428968760; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:09:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090130172843.GB89911@saturn.pcs.ms> References: <20090130172843.GB89911@saturn.pcs.ms> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:09:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Martin Schweizer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Using Serial Port Other Than sio0 for the Console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:09:43 -0000 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello > > I want to use sio1 for console access. I read chapter 26.6 in the handbook > and did the following: > > /boot.config: > -P > > /boot/device.hints: > [snip] > hint.sio.0.at="isa" > hint.sio.0.port="0x3F8" > ### hint.sio.0.flags="0x10" > hint.sio.0.irq="4" > hint.sio.1.at="isa" > hint.sio.1.port="0x2F8" > hint.sio.1.flags="0x10" > hint.sio.1.irq="3" > [snip] > > My custom kernel: > [snip] > device sio > [snip] > > /var/run/dmesg.boot: > [snip] > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A > sio0: [FILTER] > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 > sio1: type 16550A, console > sio1: [FILTER] > [snip] > > /etc/ttys: > [snip] > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > [snip] > > The baud rate etc. are correct as well (the standard settings). > > The problem is I get no connection. I'm sure that my terminal works correct > because I can connect other FreeBSD sever over the serial cable but not the > above. > Any ideas? > > Kind regards, > > -- > > Martin Schweizer > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > Surprised nobody's really responded. Enabling serial logins on ttyd1 (COM2 in Microsoft terms) is on -- it's defined in your ttys. The guaranteed "enabling" is to restart, but I've heard that sigHUP init will reread ttys and enable logins (but I hadn't got that to work yet). Enabling serial as your console output (in terms of the boot process and everything) should be, if available, enabled in /boot/loader.conf There doesn't seem to be a setting to enable COM2 as your console device, the only options (by reading through /boot/defaults/loader.conf) is to enable comconsole, which runs over COM1 You would likely have to hack the bootloader files in source and reinstall to get that kind of functionality. Does this help? let me know if you want more help. I like enabling serial console for the fact that you can get into out-of-bounds management this way easily. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 19:11:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3766F106579F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mytsuki@streamyx.com) Received: from pp-out.tm.net.my (pp-out.tm.net.my [202.188.0.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CBD8FC1D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mytsuki@streamyx.com) Received: from d319p (51.60.in-addr.arpa.tm.net.my [60.51.93.130] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by pp4.tm.net.my (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n0VEocnh013146 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:50:38 +0800 Message-Id: <200901311450.n0VEocnh013146@pp4.tm.net.my> From: "Malaysia Homeschool Unite" To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:25:41 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.7400:2.4.4, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-01-31_01:2009-01-29, 2009-01-31, 2009-01-31 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=25 spamscore=25 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=3 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0811170000 definitions=main-0901310084 Cc: Subject: "Homeschool" sebagai Gaya Hidup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mytsuki@streamyx.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:11:10 -0000 Assalamualaikum, Sertai kami dalam playgroup Komuniti Malaysia Homeschool Unite, khas buat keluarga "homeschool" dan terbuka kepada keluarga yang berminat untuk menambah ilmu serta kenalan. Anda juga boleh berikan cadangan anda. - Jom klik di sini : http://www.forum.littlekittle.com Segmen Iklan: Only RM 25 for 3 bulan! Segmen direktori niaga buat warga Malaysia! Terbuka kepada WAHM (Work-at-Home-Mum) - Jom klik di sini : http://littlekittle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6 Parents have always been their children's First Teachers. When children reach the age of 7 in most country we are told we need to send them off to Public School for approximately 8 hours a day. Why? 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We understand what makes our child go; hmmm how would this work if I put it on like this instead of the way the directions say. We have always been our children's teachers. Being as a parent and a teacher has always been the way the world works. In todays world it is no different. We choose now to keep our children learning, learning at home with us. As our children's teachers we are always on the lookout for things that we can use to help in their learning. That is where our forum Malaysia Homeschool Unite come in. We offer links to free worksheets on other sites (and more in the near future!). As well as have some that were made for the MHU forums use. We are there when you have questions, and when you want to hit your head on the wall. We offer not just the links but an ear, and a shoulder when they are needed. *Insya-Allah, Amin~* Yours sincerely, Mohd Azhar Zahir Advertising & Marketing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 19:13:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9861210656CC for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B1B8FC17 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E6B16C018F; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:13:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0VJDFdx001426; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:13:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:13:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Rem P Roberti Message-Id: <20090131201315.ca9aa395.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090131173936.GA70841@bsd.remdog.net> References: <20090131173936.GA70841@bsd.remdog.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Message from daily output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:13:23 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:39:36 -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote: > The daily output from crontab always includes this message repeated > many times in a row: > > Jan 30 18:33:14 bsd kernel: lpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > Jan 30 18:33:14 bsd kernel: lpt0: [ITHREAD] > > Can someone give me a heads up on this. I have just recently installed > my old laser printer via cups on lpt0. Same here, HP Laserjet 4000 duplex. It has something to do with the parallel port, but can be ignored, I think. There has been a workaround suggested, but I'm not sure I'm providing the correct setting which has to be placed in /boot/loader.conf: hw.intr_storm_threshold="1000" I didn't have this message when using parallel printer on FreeBSD 5. As you stated, the message repeats many times, but doesn't seem to have any effect on printing. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 19:01:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCAF10656FE for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drcubi@yahoo.com) Received: from web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24CBA8FC17 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drcubi@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 78519 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2009 19:01:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=MojgslPbQpHyavrjx0EBCTazyVG5lAuup1qTLa8y4p7DQy3BFrZgKU4qYOuDoCKN+P2Yji070thXKJEdFyE5PpaQg4MihU2574MAnrOuGW8tWyXXvpGm8RiVD3L4SF29r6NGkf+GhPjjbEW5c8Bz29faCt61xK2APQ/aJ096ipY=; X-YMail-OSG: IPwcdx8VM1nGJSHykaA5Ul2MjBmjKwxX7Ahg4ogXmVHZzqdWkhoQB.1eBgP1mguJSyMtj.Aixq01fkHdtz3UhYqVVMfQiNzaQqyq.zrFN.i0YhsfUZ9AzGV4.hoNS25oQiej2G_F3rY6zAypZ211KfdOqQEGkF7vQSHBvxYHL0_P47uMU4hS1aknfpiS3g-- Received: from [96.48.153.3] by web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:01:48 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:01:48 -0800 (PST) From: "drcubi@yahoo.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4983509B.7020208@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <471488.76953.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:58:01 +0000 Subject: Re: Backup to spare drive (rsync / crontab) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: drcubi@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:01:50 -0000 Adding full path for rsync was the solution. All backups done last night on schedule. Thanks to all that offered advice. D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 21:05:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12167106567D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE78C8FC1B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE58AFC208; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:05:43 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Apitz Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:04:33 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090130154311.GA7964@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200901310814.23334.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20090131175922.GA50313@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090131175922.GA50313@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901311204.33808.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: gsasl 0.2.28_1 does not link in 7.1R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:05:45 -0000 On Saturday 31 January 2009 08:59:23 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Saturday, January 31, 2009 a las 08:14:23AM -0900, Mel escribi= =F3: > > The reason I ask is that I'd like to be able to reproduce your problem > > and therefore need the configuration of dependencies. My options don't > > contain krb and snmp linking,so somewhere down the line of dependencies= I > > disabled them. > > In any case, thanks for spending your time on this; > > > Could you show output of: > > make -C /usr/ports/security/gsasl showconfig-recursive > > > > and trim ports that don't contain krb/gssapi or snmp as the output can = be > > quite long. > > it's quite short: > > # make -C /usr/ports/security/gsasl showconfig-recursive > =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for gsasl-0.= 2.28_1 > and dependencies =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are avail= able for > perl-5.8.9: DEBUGGING=3Doff (default) "Build with debugging support" > GDBM=3Doff (default) "Build GDBM_File extension" > PERL_MALLOC=3Don (default) "Use Perl malloc" > PERL_64BITINT=3Don (default) "Use 64 bit integers (on i386)" > THREADS=3Doff (default) "Build threaded perl" > SUIDPERL=3Doff (default) "Build set-user-id suidperl binary" > SITECUSTOMIZE=3Doff (default) "Run-time customization of @INC" > USE_PERL=3Don (default) "Rewrite links in /usr/bin" > =3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings > =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for libiconv= =2D1.11_1: > EXTRA_ENCODINGS=3Don (default) "Include extra character sets" > EXTRA_PATCHES=3Doff (default) "Apply patches to fix CP932 add EUCJP-= MS" > =3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings Ok, it's not snmp. On second glance my link line is: /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world-cc -std=3Dgnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -p= ipe \ -o .libs/gsasl gsasl.o gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o \ callbacks.o -L/usr/local/lib ../lib/src/.libs/libgsasl.so -L/usr/lib \ /usr/local/lib/libidn.so /usr/local/lib/libntlm.so -lgssapi -lkrb5 \ -lasn1 -lcrypto -lroken -lcrypt -lcom_err ../gl/.libs/libgl.a \ /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -lreadline -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib gnutls is the difference. And with that it also succeeds for me: /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world-cc -std=3Dgnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -p= ipe \ -o .libs/gsasl gsasl.o gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o \ callbacks.o -L/usr/local/lib ../lib/src/.libs/libgsasl.so -L/usr/lib \ /usr/local/lib/libidn.so /usr/local/lib/libntlm.so -lgssapi -lkrb5 \ -lasn1 -lcrypto -lroken -lcrypt -lcom_err ../gl/.libs/libgl.a \ /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -lreadline /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so \ -lz /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so \ -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib vs your: cc -std=3Dgnu99 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -p= ipe \ -o .libs/gsasl gsasl.o gsasl_cmd.o imap.o smtp.o \ callbacks.o =A0-L/usr/local/lib ../lib/src/.libs/libgsasl.so -L/usr/lib \ /usr/local/lib/libntlm.so -lgssapi -lkrb5 -lasn1 -lcrypto -lroken \ -lcrypt -lcom_err ../gl/.libs/libgl.a -lreadline /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.= so\ -lz /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so \ /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so =A0-Wl,--rpath=20 -Wl,/usr/local/lib Other then libidn, which should be unrelated, I don't see a difference. You= =20 may need to file a problem report with the port maintainer. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 21:22:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4321065730 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from testcat2003@yahoo.com) Received: from web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1E778FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from testcat2003@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 43938 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2009 20:55:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=m7Ea6xShf733Z7s9jNx566fwT33X/mdSPJ77qF32mV8U5dub1teq8o0LvXP/+01XmTjoL4+uWfwg20/wvQMsG5jPoLeEBAk50UYhGXLQrmDw4ClA4Ev6+PobSy70maUbk0THr3VEY04ZqIjvdViHrlnJ3xCmUVo1LglNo6G5ZEM=; X-YMail-OSG: OekSBKIVM1kARiFRgeQ7orJAI46_tXk3GwK5LFDnv_chfZzhZz4dlkiFxrmnmsKso.d_rBc9Jz7kkTiKg9sCXJZoKGCv8EdihoJYZ.nWULSQARroCu2S9opeNykWkhJr5i3XjYKiF2.CRPQkVmBkdfmFdUrBRcV_VAs37n0Rvh7oeCm.vkwR1KhFvzoF0A-- Received: from [208.6.238.24] by web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:55:42 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:55:42 -0800 (PST) From: Wayne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <540878.43866.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ls -lh show file not displaying correct size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: testcat2003@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:22:24 -0000 Hello, I have a db file of FreeBSD 7.1 amd64 that is displaying the wrong size. Th= is is a db file used by my mail filter software to to Bayes Filtering. If I do an ls -l or ls -lh I get filter1# ls -l total 489024 -rw-------=A0 1 defang=A0 defang=A0 274992627712 Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db filter1# ls -lh total 489024 -rw-------=A0 1 defang=A0 defang=A0=A0 256G Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db If I do a du I gecus18-179# du 489026=A0 . cus18-179# du -h 478M=A0=A0=A0 . My drive is only 250 Gig and I have it mounted as /var/spool here is my df = for the whole file system. /dev/ad14s1d=A0=A0=A0 226G=A0=A0=A0 810M=A0=A0=A0 207G=A0=A0=A0=A0 0%=A0=A0= =A0 /var/spool So I know that the 256G is wrong. Can any one tell me what is up with file = size ? Thanks Wayne =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 21:33:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E84E10656D7 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C993E8FC0A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan-a.emsphone.com [199.67.51.107]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n0VLXHl6041426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:33:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VLXHdF034718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:33:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0VLXFhh034714; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:33:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:33:15 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Wayne Message-ID: <20090131213315.GE75802@dan.emsphone.com> References: <540878.43866.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <540878.43866.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:33:17 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ls -lh show file not displaying correct size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:33:19 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 31), Wayne said: > Hello, > > I have a db file of FreeBSD 7.1 amd64 that is displaying the wrong size. This is a db file used by my mail filter software to to Bayes Filtering. > If I do an ls -l or ls -lh I get > filter1# ls -l > total 489024 > -rw-------  1 defang  defang  274992627712 Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db > filter1# ls -lh > total 489024 > -rw-------  1 defang  defang   256G Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db > If I do a du I gecus18-179# du > 489026  . > cus18-179# du -h > 478M    . > My drive is only 250 Gig and I have it mounted as /var/spool here is my df for the whole file system. > /dev/ad14s1d    226G    810M    207G     0%    /var/spool > > So I know that the 256G is wrong. Can any one tell me what is up with file size ? The 256G is correct. It's a sparse file (i.e. there are holes in it). "ls -sk" will print the actual disk space occupied by a file. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 21:39:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDC41065688 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: from maxine.cjones.org (chris.static.MT.net [206.127.66.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0135E8FC13 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: by maxine.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 175A8A6CFB; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:39:17 -0700 (MST) From: Keith Seyffarth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20090128225313.6097f792@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> (message from Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= on Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:13 +0100) References: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> <20090128225313.6097f792@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> Message-Id: <20090131213917.175A8A6CFB@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:39:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: issues with X not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:39:57 -0000 > Yes, please see /usr/ports/UPDATING, Xorg was updated. OK, I went through and ran # portupgrade -rf libxcb which took a while to update everything, but did so without any errors (or at least without any that I caught). However, now when I startx, X loads, but I have no mouse in X. (The mouse works fine when X isn't running.) These errors are present when I switch terminals and return to the terminal X was running on: ** (xfce-mcs-manager:4299): CRITICAL **: find_master: assertion `mixer_handle != -1' failed (xfce-mcs-manager:4299): xfce-mcs-manager-WARNING **: Module /usr/local/lib/xfce4/mcs-plugins/xfce4-iconbox_settings.so cannot be opened (GModule (/usr/local/lib/xfce4/mcs-plugins/xfce4-iconbox_settings.so) initialization check failed: Incorrect module version) (Thunar:4302): thunar-vfs-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the HAL daemon: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory I have tried uninstalling (using pkg_delete) and reinstalling (using portinstall) hal, but still get this problem. I also tried adding AllowEmptyInput "off" in xorg.conf, but that gives an error when starting X that AllowEmptyInput is not valid. I also added the path to hald (/usr/local/sbin) to the path in /etc/rc, but still get the same error. I'm not seeing anything obvious in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, though I do see where it sees AllowEmptyInput as "on..." If it makes a difference, it's a PS/2 mouse and keyboard (I'm not sure if X is receiving keyboard input, but I'm not sure how to test that without being able to click something to open some kind of window...) Thanks for any further tips. Keith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 22:10:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E101065673 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A258FC20 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VMADrL027934; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:10:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0VMAD8v027931; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:10:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:10:13 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Keith Seyffarth In-Reply-To: <20090131213917.175A8A6CFB@maxine.cjones.org> Message-ID: References: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> <20090128225313.6097f792@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> <20090131213917.175A8A6CFB@maxine.cjones.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:10:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues with X not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:10:15 -0000 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > I also tried adding > AllowEmptyInput "off" > in xorg.conf, but that gives an error when starting X that > AllowEmptyInput is not valid. In section ServerLayout, add Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" An alternative is to leave your hal/moused/xorg.conf alone and add Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" to ServerLayout. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 23:06:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850C1106571A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320428FC0C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0VN6Ur1050750; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:06:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0VN6Tu4050747; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:06:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:06:29 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Wayne In-Reply-To: <540878.43866.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090201000546.N50733@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <540878.43866.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1626729238-1390131460-1233443189=:50733" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ls -lh show file not displaying correct size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:06:42 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1626729238-1390131460-1233443189=:50733 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > filter1# ls -l > total 489024 > -rw-------  1 defang  defang  274992627712 Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db > filter1# ls -lh > total 489024 > -rw-------  1 defang  defang   256G Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db > If I do a du I gecus18-179# du > 489026  . > cus18-179# du -h > 478M    . > My drive is only 250 Gig and I have it mounted as /var/spool here is my df for the whole file system. > /dev/ad14s1d    226G    810M    207G     0%    /var/spool > > So I know that the 256G is wrong. Can any one tell me what is up with file size ? no it's right. it's 256G sized but most space unallocated. du shows how many space is allocated. in unix files can have "holes" == blocks that are not allocated to disk --1626729238-1390131460-1233443189=:50733-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 23:11:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D6C106575C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421298FC14 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so989407wfg.7 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:11:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=W/blu4lfPxHe1H8fbIyHbM9IU2Ro/LYXjuoayitsDTY=; b=TOWjGjT8uCK0Wr4bMW1AJfqFPNz4RDoV0fGOYkzcQshVkH64f8MyYDFqg4R4+EjPun 0HzyUSlyMJ60NWhBKY/LugE1emE/k130WVm8v1UvE612U5eYyEBAf6EDL1m8bb+A7UOy AHnLo5sAq8t0W6XoOtT9yCaQITmCygXnwNY2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=SVpJoCQkXYpbVEO14ay8omMzOQ0YnKgMVNee9jrnYvXvr2mUkzrkSg22/yJfQqYMxK AGapfVSPvzZAOgqC7PJdCwg7KSujsDH1vmkW0GIcXcQDwTUvuZAxI56/CEU8KfKfoOVO qNbo1gHD9xwGjrk2CuMoYuStP3uWuruIj3F9E= Received: by 10.142.158.3 with SMTP id g3mr1126010wfe.333.1233443492657; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from dev.null (98-12-66-208.dsl.cust.wirelessbeehive.com [208.66.12.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm4668528wfd.44.2009.01.31.15.11.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by dev.null (Postfix, from userid 1002) id D77F1568; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:11:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:11:30 -0700 From: Geoff Fritz To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20090131231130.GA76562@dev.null> References: <20090131091825.R90262@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090131091825.R90262@hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Load balancing multiple virtual hosts on 1 IP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:11:33 -0000 On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 09:23:36AM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Simple: is it possible? > > I have two VMs that contain the same content, on two different IPs .. I > want to setup a third VM with something like haproxy on it that will take > the URL (http://domain1) and pull the content from one or the other ... > > So far, all works well if I only have one virtual host, but as soon as I > add a second one (http://domain2), when I try to go to http://domain2, it > pulls up the content for domain1 also, as if I was going to http://IP > instead. > > Is there a way to set this up (with haproxy, or some other software), that > it will actually pass the URL through to the backend apache server and > load up the right content? Or is this a limitation in the protocol > itself?/ Sounds like your front end is messing up the request. If the back end servers get the correct domain in the host header, they should do the right thing and return the data from that domain. As for alterntatives... I have used "pen" for simple load balancing of web servers, and it does what you need. Very minimal and simple. Apparently, Slashdot uses "pound" for their load balancing, so it should do the trick, too. On the slightly more complex side, I've recently starting using "varnish" to split work between Apache and nginx (all three running in the same jail, thus all bound to the same IP address). It is capable of doing what you need, but it's main purpose is a reverse caching proxy, so a bit more care would be needed if you don't actually want stuff cached. All three (pen, pound, and varnish) are in ports. -- Geoff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 23:19:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A60A1065698 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: from maxine.cjones.org (chris.static.MT.net [206.127.66.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D94F8FC17 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: by maxine.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 655FCA6D67; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:18:43 -0700 (MST) From: Keith Seyffarth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Warren Block on Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:10:13 -0700 (MST)) References: <20090128212906.35F33A6B41@maxine.cjones.org> <20090128225313.6097f792@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> <20090131213917.175A8A6CFB@maxine.cjones.org> Message-Id: <20090131231843.655FCA6D67@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:18:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: issues with X not loading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:19:23 -0000 > > I also tried adding > > AllowEmptyInput "off" > > in xorg.conf, but that gives an error when starting X that > > AllowEmptyInput is not valid. > > In section ServerLayout, add > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" Thakns. This worked. I had the syntax incorrect. however, I thought this wasn't supposed to be necessar after the updates to hal on the 27th?