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Date:      Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:23:06 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org>,  Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>,  FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: [PATCH] Recent libm additions
Message-ID:  <20180715192307.45EE0ED6@spqr.komquats.com>

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I wasn't saying Steve has a lock however in case non-committers might feel =
they do, addressing all points in my reply. Not saying anyone feels this wa=
y today but we should consider this in whatever we decide here (considering=
 all possibilities). IMO adding subject matter experts to MAINTAINERS seems=
 like the easiest way to document who might be the go-to person.

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Apologies for any typos and autocorrect.
Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies.

Cy Schubert
<Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> or <cy@freebsd.org>
The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Warner Losh
Sent: 15/07/2018 12:09
To: Cy Schubert
Cc: Ian Lepore; K. Macy; Steve Kargl; FreeBSD Current
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Recent libm additions

I'm not saying that he has a lock. I'm saying he's are domain expert and ma=
ny mistakes can be avoided by talking to him.



I'm saying we have history here, and that history, while poorly documented,=
 wasn't followed. To the extent it is poorly documented, we should fix that=
.




Warner





On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> w=
rote:




I don't think it makes sense for a non-committer to have a lock on anything=
 in base. However a request for review makes a lot of sense. If a non-commi=
tter or former committer is the SME on a particular subject it's best that =
they be consulted even if they don't request it. IMO more input is better. =
Where better to document this than in MAINTAINERS.

Having said all this. If a person is a former committer and it's not docume=
nted, how are we to know?

If people agree, should we start documenting SMEs in MAINTAINERS?

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Apologies for any typos and autocorrect.
Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies.

Cy Schubert
<Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> or <cy@freebsd.org>
The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
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From: Ian Lepore
Sent: 15/07/2018 11:08
To: Warner Losh; K. Macy
Cc: Steve Kargl; FreeBSD Current
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Recent libm additions

On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 11:55 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 11:23 AM K. Macy <kmacy@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Well, actually, the functions in polevll.c should have been
> > > copied
> > > into ld80/e_powl.c, and polevall.c should never have been
> > > committed.
> > > Unfortunately, the code was not reviewed for correctness.
> > That is not correct. Please stop repeating it. Bruce Evans and John
> > Baldwin were both looped in. Neither made this observation.
> >=20
> Steve is the fp guy these days. And it wasn't reviewed by him. He's
> mad you
> cut him out of the loop. Arguing about pedantic points of process
> does no
> one any good.
>=20
> Warner

On the other hand, what information is there for someone to know that
Steve should be involved in a review? There is nothing in MAINTAINERS.
The review was on phab for almost a month, and phab is supposedly the
preferred way to do reviews these days.

Steve is no longer a committer, but that doesn't preclude him having a
phab account and participating in reviews. If he doesn't like using
phab (and I can certainly understand that POV), an entry in MAINTAINERS
would still be helpful, unless we have a rule that only committers can
be listed in there.

-- Ian

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