From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 16 17:57:41 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554F02F85D4 for ; Sat, 16 May 2020 17:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49PY034x4Xz3JlS for ; Sat, 16 May 2020 17:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 11:57:37 -0600 References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <85E7C97E-EF8B-4FC7-8EF1-758B7BCBAE90@kreme.com> <05112EEC-7FA3-4E18-974B-263A58058E01@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <05112EEC-7FA3-4E18-974B-263A58058E01@kicp.uchicago.edu> Message-Id: <332714B8-2798-42CF-A082-9EDA180CC65B@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49PY034x4Xz3JlS X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.12)[ip: (-0.32), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.06), asn: 209(-0.17), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 17:57:41 -0000 On 18 Feb 2020, at 07:08, Valeri Galtsev = wrote: > I have workstation (desktop) running FreeBSD. But you are in a tiny tiny minority. > And from what is said on this list, I=E2=80=99m not the only one. This list is a tiny tiny minority of FreeBSD users, and even here most = of us are not using desktop FreeBSD. 12/stable is projected for EOL in 2024. Doesn=E2=80=99t seem too short. Considering the amount of security that is need4ed to run a system, the = life cycles are going to be necessarily shorter between needed updates. = The days of sticking a box I a closet and ignoring it for 10 years are, = thankfully, long in the past for any responsible admin. --=20 "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but 'Snowball for Windows=E2=80=99?"