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From: Doug MacKintosh <doug@doug.net>
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Source (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <20001111191459.H4535@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Nov 11, 2000  7:14:59 pm"
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> > and Microsoft was actually running a large chunk of their language
> > engineering on Xenix on Sun machines, as late as 1988 (I got a call
> > from a Microsoft employee wanting to buy a copy of our
> > communications software for Xenix running on Sun hardware; when I
> > said "What?!?", he said "Oh, that's right, it's an internal product
> > only".  Originally, Xenix only ran on 68000 hardware.
> 
> Do you have any evidence for this?  Admittedly, there was 68000
> hardware at the time, but it was very early, and there's no obvious
> reason why Microsoft (which was definitely in charge of XENIX) would
> have bothered to port to an architecture they didn't plan to use,
> especially since it was big-endian and 32 bit, whereas both the PDP-11
> and i86 were little-endian and 16 bit.  I'd suspect that you're
> extrapolating here.

Gents,

My first Unix machines, which I purchased very-well-used in 1987 or 
so, were two M68000 (10MHz) contraptions manufactured by a company 
called Spectrix. They ran Microsoft Xenix (v3.2? v2.3? - I forget). The 
machines, I believe, were manufactured in 1981 or thereabouts. Spectrix
called them model 30s. They used the Intel Multibus and had a couple
dozen serial ports, 2MB of RAM, two 29MB SASI drives and a QIC tape.

I heard a rumour that these boxen were actually Sun 0's or some such thing.

If anyone can shed any more light on the origins of these boxes, I 
would love to hear about it. I no longer have the machines but I am
now curious again.

-- Doug

-- 
doug mackintosh
the unix geek
doug@doug.net


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