From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 16 16:27:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5750E16A416 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig@feniz.gank.org) Received: from ion.gank.org (ion.gank.org [69.55.238.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9718143D69 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:27:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from craig@feniz.gank.org) Received: by ion.gank.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42F4410F24; Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:27:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:26:58 -0500 From: Craig Boston To: Danny Braniss Message-ID: <20060916162657.GA31096@nowhere> Mail-Followup-To: Craig Boston , Danny Braniss , Robert Blayzor , Matthew Jacob , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <450B62C9.5000706@inoc.net> <7579f7fb0609152252y5660195fo419a67dbe90904cd@mail.gmail.com> <450BE564.20106@inoc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Matthew Jacob , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iSCSI HBAs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:27:04 -0000 On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 03:35:52PM +0300, Danny Braniss wrote: > being involved with the iSCSI initiator for FreeBSD, I can't see where > this can help for a diskless host, or in other words, what's > wrong with NFS? Well, for one thing since iSCSI is designed for SAN use, the filesystem can safely assume that nothing else is accessing it concurrently and do a lot more aggressive caching. NFS has to play it safe and check with the server every time a file is accessed to make sure it hasn't changed. It sounds to me like the OP is thinking about servers in a large data center booting off an iSCSI SAN. Makes migrating off of dead hardware to a new machine (or even a VM) a snap. > also, the TOE cards are not that cheep either :-) my 2c, danny They're usually cheaper than fibre channel HBAs though ;-) Craig