From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 8 19:33:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA93106566C; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 19:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@msys.ch) Received: from sleipnir.msys.ch (unknown [IPv6:2001:4060:c0de:f000::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5110A8FC13; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 19:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msys.ch (smtp.msys.ch [157.161.101.10]) by sleipnir.msys.ch (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o08JXfZE003370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:33:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (gw.vnode.ch [62.12.170.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.msys.ch (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o08JXdag005915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:33:40 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <0F2B2EB1-C91F-459D-BE93-A81B7FF4173C@msys.ch> From: Marc Balmer To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4B477CBE.6090000@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:33:39 +0100 References: <201001040916.o049GZ1Y013061@svn.freebsd.org> <4B4384E3.2080600@FreeBSD.org> <867hrvgw2j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B46CFE8.8000501@FreeBSD.org> <4B477CBE.6090000@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.3.6 X-Spamd-Symbols: AWL,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX Cc: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r201477 - head/games/fortune/datfiles X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:33:49 -0000 Am 08.01.2010 um 19:43 schrieb Doug Barton: > Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: >> 2010/1/8 Doug Barton : >>> Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: >>>> I don't see how the Rumsfeld quote could offend anyone. >>> A) Better safe than sorry >>> B) Regardless of my own opinions I can easily see how someone =20 >>> could be >>> offended by anything having to do with Rumsfeld, the Iraq war, etc. >> >> Perhaps, at the moment. > > Which is where we are now, yes. > >> Five to ten years from now that quotation will >> be just history, like the ones from/about JFK, Richard Nixon, and >> Spiro Agnew. > > Actually there are several things in the main fortunes file that I > find offensive related to political stuff of the 60's and 70's > (although not for the reasons that I think most people would find them > offensive). Note, I am not however suggesting that we do a wholesale > move of potentially offensive stuff. > >> Are you whiling to apply such rule to all supposedly >> political fortunes? > > My very first post on this was, "Anything that may offend someone > belongs in fortunes-o, and all political commentary belongs in this > category." > > FWIW, while I am definitely in favor of treating all people with > courtesy and respect, I am just about as > anti-mindless-political-correctness as you can possibly be. In fact, > in both my .bashrc and my xscreensaver config I use fortune -a because > as much as some of the things in there offend me, I find it refreshing > to be challenged by other viewpoints. OTOH, I am also in favor of us > building a professional-quality operating system, and while I actually > _voiced_ my objection to the removal of > "die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog" because that is not something that is > user-visible, I think that if we SAY there is a distinction between > fortunes and fortunes-o that we ought to follow through on that. > Putting something that we know could (and almost certainly will) be > found offensive in the fortunes file because WE are smarter and more > sophisticated than those fools who would be offended by it is > childish, foolish, and unprofessional. > Actually I think -o should be the default for fortune. I think it =20 would be funnier. There should of course be an option like maybe -f ("faint at heart" or =20= so) for people without a sense or humour or who are easily offended by =20= a good joke.... -mb