From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 20:38:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9720F70E; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.morrow.me.uk (isis.morrow.me.uk [204.109.63.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED7B2E9A; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from anubis.morrow.me.uk (host86-182-14-79.range86-182.btcentralplus.com [86.182.14.79]) (Authenticated sender: mauzo) by isis.morrow.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EB0B45038; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:37:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 isis.morrow.me.uk 4EB0B45038 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=morrow.me.uk; s=dkim201101; t=1404765473; bh=CDXsH66KAd1AL8UaNlcsZy26E0uXh2VGBpG8ByrX8G4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=odOgYDNg0kbu1vzp4PiCmFFxKGoYCvMZVQilFRMJ10R0/7rcqsqS+Bclk8sa+RSxy JMCOFQktHIi5IWj67VK2llPzoR7U51h1x5Z8Cxx5sE+Dm1SGO3mQaPuKuKWOJYzctc rvx6XkFn7C2XgUOcEGqsY+oQ/mCMNCvmhxSw86tE= X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at isis.morrow.me.uk Received: by anubis.morrow.me.uk (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 0242214103; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:37:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:37:49 +0100 From: Ben Morrow To: adrian@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should 9.3 carry a warning about NEW_XORG Message-ID: <20140707203746.GA11123@anubis.morrow.me.uk> Mail-Followup-To: adrian@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <53B69B88.4060803@gmail.com> <20140705103235.GB7680@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140707095825.GB1074@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.stable User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:38:00 -0000 Quoth Adrian Chadd : > > I kinda wished that the Xorg development wouldn't break older graphics > rendering so hard, but alas, what drives that is the hardware > innovation cycle and not the "holy shit you mean we need to use this > for 10 years?" cycle. I feel I should say at this point that ISTM you and the rest of the FreeBSD/Xorg people have been making a heroic effort in the face of a not-quite-actively-hostile upstream for a good while now, and the resulting relative stability is greatly appreciated. (Of course, I've just upgraded my home desktop to 10-S/radeonkms/vt/NEW_XORG with no trouble, so... :) ) Ben