Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 19:20:52 +0100 From: Mohammad Noureldin <mohammad@thelightbird.com> To: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: OS to replace FreeBSD Message-ID: <CAAQ96Dx1OkokZZbT8_g-AaUv1oeJy18GKyCLGGji5ZxdYWBB5w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAGBxaXmEWEj55LRoLQYNa7B2z-%2BpfkucCE24=uEonV0SGL=prw@mail.gmail.com> References: <20210319101040.00005c35@seibercom.net> <CA%2BD9QhsjLtVui6exPDyG2CO5H8X-=YckFjCehHusG7eH_kk2sg@mail.gmail.com> <6054BE1B.50706@gmail.com> <20210319130249.000042a1@seibercom.net> <5a8cf0be-646a-a433-2428-9700a47c1bf0@att.net> <20210319140448.00007521@seibercom.net> <c9ca4862-199a-5c6b-1282-18cc32d3486f@johnea.net> <20210319213214.4f8ddf55@archlinux> <CAGBxaXnwqXMBjp0i6Qd6SzbjCq13wFPOo1mjMUucNKw%2BPC1KFw@mail.gmail.com> <20210320063427.000040f5@seibercom.net> <CAAQ96Dy2D_gM7a4ZTc4d54EMyBRHxhHLfKUyJZcSAtsvX3%2BZaA@mail.gmail.com> <AE988246-3097-48C2-B1B7-33A71C64D5F4@kicp.uchicago.edu> <CAAQ96Dx2drMStNvzJZNhiEcPVOcz0B8CxNAF8957gW0jFmDvXQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaXmEWEj55LRoLQYNa7B2z-%2BpfkucCE24=uEonV0SGL=prw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Aryeh, On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:51 PM Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:38 PM Mohammad Noureldin < > mohammad@thelightbird.com> wrote: > >> >> > That was said by only one - very loud - member of FreeBSD community, >> > people here are much milder and way more polite. And I for one do not >> share >> > the view that FreeBSD in particular and open source systems in general >> are >> > only for people with [some] technical knowledge. >> > >> >> That was exactly my point :) . One reason to share my opinions, though I >> am >> new here, is that I have 100% trust in the openness, inclusiveness and >> friendliness of the FreeBSD community. But some conversations may be read >> in the wrong way in readers didn't read the details of the discussion. >> > > You are missing the point I was making with the original comment on the > who and why Unix was designed. It was not to say that it is only for > technical people but it was to say when you run into an issue that requires > you to dive into deeper water then normal you have no right to complain > about how the deep end was designed to be so deep.... it was designed that > way because you need deep water to safely have a (high) diving board to > jump from when your doing more than just swimming laps.... so if you don't > know how to swim (you only know how to float/dog paddle) you should not > attempt to swim in the deep end... in this metaphor Unix (without a lot of > very fancy GUI work like Apple does) is the deep end... i.e. you might not > need or use the diving board but you have no right to complain about there > being a deep end if you decide to do full pool laps (it is on you to get > the skills needed to be in the deep end before entering it). > I see what you are trying to explain. Again no real difference or objection here. Some topics are indeed clear deep water and I do agree with you that if someone who barely knows how to swim, they should not just dive in that deep water. But some other points are not deep for some people while it is for others, and there where we need to be helpful, which I am sure we are. As I said, I have full trust in our FreeBSD community, so lets not keep going into that circle a lot :). > > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > -- Mohammad Noureldin Founder/Owner The Lightbird
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