From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 18 08:42:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06139 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06102 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA28767 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 04:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25571; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:31:54 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199703180422.GAA28685@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> References: from Richard Wackerbarth at "Mar 17, 97 06:51:01 pm" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 06:30:25 -0600 To: John Hay From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:22 PM -0600 3/17/97, John Hay wrote: >> >> It bothers me that people are so quick to "write off" a system as soon as it >> is kicked out the door. I think that such an attitude shows that there is >> a lack of realization as to the performance level expected of a "real" >> product. If the attitude continues to be this one whereby a system is >> discarded just when it reaches the "almost complete" stage, FreeBSD will >> continue to be viewed as a "hobbyist" system rather than the quality >> product that many of us want it to be. >> > >I think you want to spread us too thin, if you want us to work on three >trees. Even big companies like Microsoft don't do it that way, or have >you seen any Win 3.11 fixes lately.... or even the last year for that >matter? Here I disagree. What you are seeing is the public view of Microsoft. I assure you that the R&D groups in Microsoft ARE working on additional systems. The difference with FreeBSD is that the R&D department is as visable as the production department. >I'm already busy convincing the powers that be that we have to upgrade >because I don't think it is worth it to keep going on with 2.1.x. It is >just getting too hard to retrofit things from 2.2 and -current. I agree. However, I believe that this is "effect" rather than "cause". If the FreeBSD group will accept the attitude that they NEED three branches, it will become easier to support them. After all, there has been a quantum leap from one branch to two.