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Date:      Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:12:26 +0100
From:      "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" <svein-listmail@stillbilde.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS License and Future
Message-ID:  <4CD58C7A.70609@stillbilde.net>
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On 06.11.2010 17:44, Chris Brennan wrote:
>  On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wro=
te:
>=20
>> On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 11:25:13PM -0500, Steven Susbauer wrote:
>>> On 11/5/10 4:34 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
>>>> Will Oracle start using patent suits to try to stop people
>>>> who aren't paying for ZFS or who are using it on platforms other tha=
n
>>>> Solaris from using it?
>>>>
>>>> Whether you think concerns like these will prove reasonable in the l=
ong
>>>> run, they make a lot more sense than assuming that Alejandro just
>> wonders
>>>> if the CDDL is "dangerous" somehow.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would be surprised. Oracle (real Oracle, not Sun) is still the prim=
ary
>>> developer of btrfs on Linux. They are pretty much going for feature
>>> parity with ZFS and want people to actually use it. If they start sui=
ng
>>> over ZFS patents which are certainly applicable to btrfs, it will hav=
e
>>> repercussions on that side.
>>
>> Perhaps.
>>
>> On the other hand, Oracle could offer some kind of "patent covenant"
>> protecting btrfs while going after a ZFS fork as a way of "focing" peo=
ple
>> to migrate from it to btrfs, as a more hostile way of achieving what
>> Microsoft does when it ends support for an older OS to get people to b=
uy
>> the newer Windows release.
>>
>> . . . or maybe Oracle will decide it doesn't need the open source
>> community's help any longer at some future date, and shut down *both*
>> open source filesystem development projects.
>>
>> Oracle is known to be at least intermittently hostile toward open sour=
ce
>> software, in ways that are sometimes more frightening than Microsoft's=

>> hostility.  This is scaring people, and I don't blame them.  The
>> uncertainty about Oracle's future position on everything it has acquir=
ed
>> with Sun is something that will need to be tested and observed to see =
how
>> it shakes out in the next few years; in the meantime, I do not blame
>> anyone for being cautious about committing to use of open source softw=
are
>> under the Oracle umbrella.
>>
>> --
>> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]=

>>
>=20
> Chad, what are these attachments to your e-mail? My client keeps flaggi=
ng
> your mail as questionable and I'm sandboxing it to make sure it's nothi=
ng
> bad :D

I suppose they are the PGP signature?

//Svein

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