From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 5 6:32:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FF537B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 06:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F4243FDF for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 06:32:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com (asmtp02-qfe3 [10.13.10.66]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h25EWI8I019227 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 06:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mac.com ([67.33.228.33]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HBA5PT00.K2J; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 06:32:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:32:16 -0600 Subject: Re: IP over IEEE1394? Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org To: Christopher Fowler From: David Leimbach In-Reply-To: <1046874658.5666.27.camel@cfowler.outpostsentinel.com> Message-Id: <43A441A1-4F17-11D7-A732-0003937E39E0@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG True... I guess I didn't state my case clearly enough that I think IP over firewire is in itself a good thing for clusters. ppp connections with it are fine too but not very useful for my line of work which is parallel computing middleware :) Dave On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:30 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote: > The beauty of ppp is that you have support in the kernel to do it. > Else, you are stuck to writing some type of interface driver for the > kernel. In the short term, this may not be a workable solution. > > On a side note, > > I read an article on /. about using firewire + MinDV for backup. I > guess I can get some use out of my camera after all. > > Chris > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 09:21, David Leimbach wrote: >> Yeah... point to point connections are interesting and powerful but IP >> would >> be better if we could get it. >> >> I wish I knew more about how to implement it. :) >> >> Dave >> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:23 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote: >> >>> This may not be a workable solution, but if you can get 2 programs to >>> send data across the firewire to one another, you could use pppd >>> through >>> that tunnel. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:25, David Leimbach wrote: >>>> Interesting... I didn't even know we had Ethernet over firewire :). >>>> >>>> Mac OS X and Windows XP both have IP over firewire either working or >>>> in the works and somewhat usable. The only one I can claim any >>>> experience >>>> with is Mac OS X. It's somewhat flaky though and you get unreliable >>>> spikes >>>> in some basic performance tests I have done with it. >>>> >>>> It would be a really interesting value added feature for FreeBSD 5.x >>>> and could potentially open FBSD up even more to the "cluster" market >>>> which is somewhere its not as proliferated as linux. >>>> >>>> With the advent of firewire2 on the horizon it may be even more >>>> impressive. >>>> >>>> I believe there is even an Oracle product for linux which can >>>> cluster >>>> databases >>>> over firewire now. [I don't know if its IP though] >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Rossam Souza Silva wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, there is some plan to port NetBSD's implementation of IP over >>>>> Firewire? I know, we have "Ethernet over Firewire", but like the >>>>> Linux >>>>> one, isn't a standard... >>>>> >>>>> Just curious. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> ------- >>>>> (_ ) "Contrary to popular belief, UNIX is user friendly. It >>>>> just >>>>> happens >>>>> \\\'',) ^ to be very selective about who it decides to make >>>>> friends >>>>> with." >>>>> \/ \( >>>>> .\._/_) Rossam Souza Silva (rss@cin.ufpe.br) >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> ------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message