From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 8 14:58:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0244337B41B for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool0490.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.43.235] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16uh9R-0003Yf-00; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:58:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3CB2125B.8F11C442@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:57:47 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use/Utilize References: <3CAEE006.F36598B1@mindspring.com> <200204061202.g36C2aPL036777@grimreaper.grondar.org> <20020408112409.A90467@lpt.ens.fr> <3CB1646C.9DF12B4F@mindspring.com> <20020408114703.C85215@lpt.ens.fr> <3CB1805B.D5E56F08@mindspring.com> <20020408135247.F85215@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > Basically, there is only one of 15 definitions of "use" which match > > the definition of "utilize". > > And this is the only one which applies to the phrase "using software". Your definition is: v. i.(1) To make use of; to convert to one's service; to avail one's self of; to employ; to put a purpose; as, to use a plow; to use a chair; to use time; to use flour for food; to use water for irrigation. This is distinct from: v. i.(3) To practice customarily; to make a practice of; as, to use diligence in business. Definition 3 is what the GPL permits. The GPL does not permit "use" as in definition 1, as in "to use in the preparation of a derivative work for which source code is not subsequently made available". Therefore, I can not "utilize" the software for certain meanings of "put to use", even though I can "use" it. However, I can put up a web service derived from GPL'ed code, and allow people to "make a practice of" it, as in "to use web services in business". Thus I can "use", but not "utilize" the code, because of the license. > We don't use this phrase randomly. "Using software" does not mean > "wearing out software" or "taking unfair advantage of software" or any > of the other 14 definitions. You're right. It's not the other 14 definitions; it's merely not the one definition which you've chosen. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message