Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:59:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>, mjacob@feral.com, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project management [was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/common boot.c] Message-ID: <20000908115901.B32142@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> In-Reply-To: <68565.968362452@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:34:12PM -0700 References: <nik@freebsd.org> <68565.968362452@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:34:12PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > The point is not that you, or I, do all the work. The point (and in > > particular, the point of the conspectus stuff) was to encourage other > > people to feel like they could contribute, with the carrot being a > > committership if they were committed enough (no pun intended). The Linux > > folks manage it, the Perl folks manage it. . . > > They do manage it, but for a fairly loose definition of "manage." > Perl does benefit greatly by being able to cross the boundries of OS > religion and get volunteers from all corners of the global OS > community whereas Linux, I would argue, actually makes much of its > progress in parallel rather than seeing all that effort going into any > single variant. Hmm. When the Conspectus started I know Chris Coleman started casting around for people to pay to do the same thing for the O'Reilly dev centre stuff. Maybe this is the sort of stuff the Foundation could work on. Hmm, how's that going, any how? > How much does Red Hat benefit from the Debian package > manager, for example, or Caldera's Novell networking interoperability > percolate over to Slackware? Neither of those are documentation issues though. > Ah, my mistake, and all I can say to THAT point is that good engineers > are currently pretty hard to find here in the US for any amount of > money. :-) Time for you to relocate back to Ireland then :-) > > I agree, it's printed, and sat next to me. Why don't we have hordes of > > college kids volunteering to contribute, as Linux does? Do we want that, > > and if so, how do we attract it? > > I think we want it, it's just an open question (which I've been > searching for an answer to for some time now) as to how to get them. It looks as though, despite our efforts so far, the project is still perceived as being too cliquey, with the learning curve for contributors seen as being too high. <hypothetical>Would an objection to the import of FOOFS in to the tree because it lacked architectural documentation (as opposed to man pages) be overruled?</hypothetical> > > Oh, tell me about it. I was all prepared to take a six month sabbattical > > once FreeBSD Services ltd got off the ground, and then BSDi go and make > > me an offer I can't refuse. > > Sorry about that. :-) Yeah, bastards :-) N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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