From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 4 8:16:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8537A37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FF543E75 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:16:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lomifeh@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (bgp586692bgs.jdover01.nj.comcast.net [68.39.202.147]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.4 (built Aug 5 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H5200JPR7VYJG@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:16:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:16:39 -0500 From: Larry Sica Subject: Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many? In-reply-to: <20021104151732.GA469@raggedclown.net> To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.546) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 10:17 AM, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 04:31:10PM +0200, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: >> I think you are missing the whole point here. Let me make it a little >> more clear to you. Suppose we ask this question to two different types >> of people "Hey, what do you think about Beastie? What does it remind >> you >> of?" and show them Beastie. First group is FreeBSD users or users that >> know this litle cute, and as you claim "daemon", second group is the >> the >> wide majority of people that know nothing about PCs and hardly even >> use >> Windblows. I wonder what do u think each group will respond to this >> question? >> > Why not try a poll. And so what if people say "it's a devil/demon" ? > You make the assumption they have to be exorcised immediately. > People who use expressions such as "wide majority of people" usually > say it in the expectation that everyone agress with them, without any > single shred of evidence for such a statement. > > I will shut up now, I have obviously been possessed and should know > better than to pursue this singularly ridiculous line that > approximately > 2 people on this list think the daemon offends people. > > Murder, rape, war, erosion of civil liberties, terror -- all these are > indulged in by people of most religions and of none. Personally I would > be more terrified the day someone points an AK47 at my head.. which is > happening to people as we speak, by people who may well pray to their > God > on a regular basis. That is "offensive". Not some cartoon character > daemon. > Personally, I find it more offensive when someone tries to dictate what I should find offensive(I am not referring to anyone on this list btw). There is nothing sinister about that though. I am left-handed too, there is an interesting origin to the word sinister. If someone has the time to be so offended by Beastie, well it's a lot like those who go out everyday to protest this or that. They need a job ;) --Larry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message