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Subject: Re: Core's function (was: The Project and onward [was: Re:
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> I'm not disagreeing with you here, but it raises some interesting
> questions about what this project can hope to achieve if "hard" stuff is
> deemed too hard for this kind of environment to accomplish.

I don't think it's "too hard", I simply think it's hard.  It being
hard means that somebody, or probably at most a few somebodies, need
to be ready and willing to truly kill themselves over a "hero project"
in FreeBSD before it will really start flying.  They can't simply
content themselves with whining that "somebody" (like core) needs to
somehow wave a magic wand and cause all that hard work to be done,
because that just ends up with people being annoyed.  The sorcerer's
apprentice we're not. :)

As to getting universities interested, I think we need to get more CS
professors involved and the Right Things may follow.  Any pointers,
Professor Cox? :)

- Jordan

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