From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 13 09:13:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25645 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25637 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbws.etinc.com (dbws.etinc.com [204.141.95.130]) by etinc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA00643; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970713121221.007320c8@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:12:28 -0400 To: Blaine Minazzi From: Dennis Subject: Re: T1/T3 Upgrade Options? Cc: isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:54 AM 7/12/97 -0600, Blaine Minazzi wrote: [snip] >But, if you have a monthly overhead of of a full T-3, then the trying to >save a small PERCENTAGE of you annual operating revenues at the expense >of reliability, functionality, and throughput is pretty shortsighted. >Some jobs _DO_ require the big iron. Trying to make do with a peice of >equipment that is barely up to the task, is a recipie for failure. > I dont think that throughput will be an issue with a properly designed card, and also don't fall into the assumption that Cisco T3 routers are as reliable as 2501s with a T1. You still may be able to easily justfy using a $5000. box...the maintenance contract alone an a high-end cisco will cost you more than keeping a crony on call 24X7 and a complete spare to "boot" :-) Now multiple T3s is another banana altogether.... Dennis From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 13 09:29:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26414 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@sdn-ts-001coauroP15.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26400 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04471; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:24:42 -0600 Message-ID: <33C8F339.66F27147@denverweb.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:24:41 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis CC: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: T1/T3 Upgrade Options? References: <3.0.32.19970713121221.007320c8@etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dennis wrote: > I dont think that throughput will be an issue with a properly designed card, > and also don't fall into the assumption that Cisco T3 routers are as reliable > as 2501s with a T1. You still may be able to easily justfy using a $5000. > box...the maintenance contract alone an a high-end cisco will cost you more > than keeping a crony on call 24X7 and a complete spare to "boot" :-) > > Now multiple T3s is another banana altogether.... > > Dennis Of course, if you have a T-3, you most likely have at least someone on a pager 24X7... ( Glad It's not me anymore. I hated the pager duty when I was a gub'mint contractor. ) May we all have the bannanas to deal with in the future. :-) Blaine From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 13 17:58:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17457 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.ois.net.au (proxy.ois.net.au [203.17.194.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17452 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mikey@localhost) by proxy.ois.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA13891; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:56:04 +0800 (WST) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:56:04 +0800 (WST) From: Michael Slater To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Strange Kernel message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have been having trouble with a FreeBSD box that i just put together. I am using it as a proxy server, and the following kernel messages keep appearing.. in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1066 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 473 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 315 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 210 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 140 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 93 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 62 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 41 in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 27 Then at some point after this, the machine reboots without warning.. What could be the cause of this ? Michael Slater From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 13 21:07:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA26240 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA26231 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaknl by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA10650; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 06:02:08 +0200 Received: from pp200-1 ([192.168.0.200]) by jak.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id EAA00937 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 04:05:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <33C98959.569566B0@jak.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 04:05:13 +0200 From: Jan A Knepper Reply-To: Jan@jak.nl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Off-line News access via UUCP. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, here an other dombo question: Could I setup a news system via offline UUCP? I would like FreeBSD to download the messages from certain news groups and have them locally ready. Then local user could look at them and give there response. If there is any response these could be send to the news group so they will be visible for the rest of the world. Is there such a feature available? Where would I look? Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 13 22:50:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01484 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01479 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23547 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Jul 1997 05:44:58 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:44:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Jan A Knepper cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Off-line News access via UUCP. In-Reply-To: <33C98959.569566B0@jak.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > here an other dombo question: > > Could I setup a news system via offline UUCP? > I would like FreeBSD to download the messages from certain news groups > and have them locally ready. Then local user could look at them and give > there response. If there is any response these could be send to the news > group so they will be visible for the rest of the world. > > Is there such a feature available? Where would I look? This may or may not work: We are looking into an application called DNews which allows the retreival of newsgroups on demand. When a user requests a newsgroup, it checks to see if it has it stored locally from the last time it was requested, gets the newsgroup if not, and updates the newsgroups if it already has most of it. If you don't have a huge base of users reading news like us, where it is cost-ineffective for us to have a full newsfeed, it is a good inbetween. Our line is faster than a modem, so the newsgroups will come down faster than the user's modem can download it, so they see no apparent slowdown. It cuts down on the bandwith of a full newsfeed, and uses a fraction of the hard drive space as it only gets the groups that are requested, plus you can specify how large a slice of drive it uses so it doesn;t overflow to the rest of the disk and crowd out other important functions. -Gary Margiotta TBE Internet Services http://www.tbe.net From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 01:29:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA08000 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npc.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07991 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.co.cn (8.8.4/8.6.9) id QAA14290 for isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:37:41 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:37:41 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199707141637.QAA14290@npc.haplink.co.cn> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail message disturb me! Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, my mail server & dns server always show me the following message. What's wrong with it? How can I deny that? Jul 14 16:27:55 npc sendmail[14221]: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "162.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa", got "162.128.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa" .... .... Best regaurds! --xiyuan PS. Is there any answer about my ATM card for FreeBSD question? I need a list of ATM card which supported by FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 03:51:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA13384 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13363; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11015; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:51:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:51:25 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: dennis cc: Gary Palmer , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970712113103.00c86100@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 12 Jul 1997, dennis wrote: > First of all, YOU are putting our systems up against dedicated routers, we > sell cards, systems for convenience. I have a cisco router and I find it > rather annoying to have to wire up a terminal to it to upgrade software or > do any maintenance that requires console access. You'll be doing > upgrades or maintenance much more often then your video card will > fail, and if it fails it will not bring your system down anyway. > > THATS why, and if you dont like it take the damn thing out....I dont care. > :-) Although as I said originally, the only times our (FreeBSD) router has gone down so far have been due to (in order) 1) power failure. (twice) 2) me rebooting to take the video card out because I didn't need it 3) me rebooting to put the video card back in, so I could leave some crud flashin past on the screen for clients/management to feel happy with. =) -- Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 06:41:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA21885 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 06:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21880 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 06:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ernie.club-web.com (ernie.club-web.com [207.176.196.12]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA11149; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33CA2D24.41C67EA6@club-web.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:44:04 -0400 From: Mark Segal Organization: Club-Web Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xiyuan qian CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail message disturb me! References: <199707141637.QAA14290@npc.haplink.co.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk xiyuan qian wrote: > > Hi, my mail server & dns server always show me the following message. What's > wrong with it? How can I deny that? > > Jul 14 16:27:55 npc sendmail[14221]: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "162.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa", got "162.128.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa" hmm.. :).. looks like a DNS problem, there is a problem in the reverse lookup. Is your C class 133.11.70.162... because if it is, you have enterecd it incorectly in your DNS records. It should only read (in your named.boot file) primary 70.11.133.in-addr.arpa if that doesn't help it could also be aresult of a local config error. ie no local host is configed. Mark -- Mark Segal mark@club-web.com System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 07:47:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24705 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nacamar.de (mail.nacamar.de [194.162.162.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24693 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newsfeed (newsfeed.nacamar.de [194.162.162.196]) by mail.nacamar.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13245; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:46:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970714164627.00a2f210@mail.nacamar.de> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.nacamar.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:46:27 +0200 To: Chris Wilson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Beckmann Subject: Re: Second SCSI controller in news server In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't know how many disks you have in your server, but you may have to make the appropriate device entries in /dev . Use the /dev/MAKEDEV script for that. Michael bsd: {67} ls -l /dev/sd4* brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00010022 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4 brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 32 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4a brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 33 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4b brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 34 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4c brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 35 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4d brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 36 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4e brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 37 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4f brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 38 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4g brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 39 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4h brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020022 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1 brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020020 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1a brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020021 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1b brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020022 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1c brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020023 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1d brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020024 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1e brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020025 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1f brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020026 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1g brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020027 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s1h brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00030022 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s2 brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00040022 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s3 brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00050022 Jan 5 1997 /dev/sd4s4 At 23:28 11.07.97 -0400, Chris Wilson wrote: >I just dropped a second NCR SCSI controller with one drive on it into my >news reader box. The kernel probes it out OK, and sees the drive. When I >try to disklabel the drive, however, I get a: > >disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument > >Is there anything funky I need to do to the device file since this drive >is hanging off the second controller? > >Thanks! > >Chris > >Chris Wilson (CW40) | "What was your username again?" >Internet Connect Company | You'd think they'd learn. >Sales: 800-422-2936 Support: 800-921-9328 | http://www.atlantic.net > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 08:19:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26300 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (www.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26292 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from br02 (br02.acw-web.com [156.46.248.99]) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA00430 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:18:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:18:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199707141518.KAA00430@br01.acw-web.com> X-Sender: jwenger@acw-web.com X-EUDORA-DEMO: NOT FOR RESALE - 90 DAY DEMONSTRATION COPY X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jack Wenger Subject: Strange Message Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the lame questions, but I'm not subscribed to FreeBSD-Questions. Question 1 When I login I get the following... inetd[198] login_getclass: unknown class 'root' I looked at the man pages for login.conf (which isn't on my box (2.2.2)) but, that didn't help. This message started after I added a user to the wheel group so he can go SU. I read the man page for group, and added the name correctly (as far as I can tell). So, any ideas? Question 2 When I ping my virtual domains from my server, I get "host is down", when I ping them from any of my other machines and from another network completely, they show up. Ifconfig shows the addresses properly, so I'm vastly confused. HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jack Wenger, Owner Bent Reality Graphics info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com/ 1-888-701-1026 or 1-608-233-8571 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 08:55:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28245 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28239 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntws (ntws.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA09231; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970714115444.00e49100@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:54:47 -0400 To: Blaine Minazzi , isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: dennis Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:56 AM 7/9/97 -0600, Blaine Minazzi wrote: >Someone Opined: > > >> Besides, why learn how to use a Cisco router, when you can have a *BSD box >> do it for you for the same price/cheaper, but with a lot less hassle if it >> goes wrong. > >If it is the same price, the decision could tip toword cicsco, with no >moving parts. Do they have a Fan the doesn't move now? Gotta love those geniuses over there :-) Our card REALLY has no moving parts...... Dennis From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 09:09:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28891 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28881 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntws (ntws.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA09345; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970714120632.00e4a6a0@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:06:44 -0400 To: Chris Dillon , Nate Williams From: dennis Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? Cc: "Gary D. Margiotta" , Cliff Addy , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 09:54 PM 7/9/97 +0000, Chris Dillon wrote: >Nate Williams wrote: >> >> > In Nate's position where he is in a small office and doesn't need the >> > added functions of the Cisco, it is a great idea for hime to build his >> > own. I would guess the 99% of cisco users are using less than 1% if its "functions". In the old days (when many routers were just black and white, relatively featureless boxes), they'd sell by telling the clueless managers that they "gotta have" all these "features", when in reality most people just route packets. Many of the "features" didnt even work, or worked very poorly....now they are playing the "dedicated hardware" game, and people just eat it up....I've never seen so many *supposedly* savvy people so easily brainwashed. Dennis From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 11:27:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06106 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06100 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA06589; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:26:52 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:26:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: xiyuan qian cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail message disturb me! In-Reply-To: <199707141637.QAA14290@npc.haplink.co.cn> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, xiyuan qian wrote: > Hi, my mail server & dns server always show me the following message. What's > wrong with it? How can I deny that? > > Jul 14 16:27:55 npc sendmail[14221]: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "162.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa", got "162.128.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa" Looks like you have a /25 subnet of 70.11.133.in-addr.arpa allocated to you. Your ISP may have messed up the zone file slightly (I'm assuming everything works) since we have delegated some subnets and do not get the messages. The zone file should have entries like 128 IN NS your.name.server. 129 IN CNAME 129.128.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa. 130 IN CNAME 130.128.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa. Your nameserver should have a zone file for 128.70.11.133.in-addr.arpa that looks normal, i.e. 129 IN PTR some.machine. 130 IN PTR another.machine. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 11:29:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06264 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06256 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA06608; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:29:44 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:29:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Jack Wenger cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange Message In-Reply-To: <199707141518.KAA00430@br01.acw-web.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Jack Wenger wrote: > Question 1 > When I login I get the following... > inetd[198] login_getclass: unknown class 'root' Search the mailing list archives (the questions list) for login.conf. In addition to several hundred questions about this, you should find a sample login.conf file I posted. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 14 13:14:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11656 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linus.intrastar.net (root@linus.intrastar.net [206.136.25.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11650 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jake.fuck.org (pmnac1-6.inu.net [208.129.167.8]) by linus.intrastar.net (8.8.5/TerraNovaNet) with ESMTP id PAA11627; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:13:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <33CA896A.8991F3AA@linus.intrastar.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:17:46 -0500 From: Jacob Suter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dennis CC: Blaine Minazzi , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.32.19970714115444.00e49100@etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Electrons move... There are virtually movementless fans using piezo devices on two sides and a properly configurated oscillator that moves air.. The MTBF on these is pretty high. JS dennis wrote: > At 07:56 AM 7/9/97 -0600, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > >Someone Opined: > > > > > >> Besides, why learn how to use a Cisco router, when you can have a > *BSD box > >> do it for you for the same price/cheaper, but with a lot less > hassle if it > >> goes wrong. > > > >If it is the same price, the decision could tip toword cicsco, with > no > >moving parts. > > Do they have a Fan the doesn't move now? Gotta love those geniuses > over there :-) > > Our card REALLY has no moving parts...... > > Dennis From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 01:43:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA15671 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from red.juniper.net (red.juniper.net [208.197.169.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15665; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp.juniper.net (chimp.juniper.net [208.197.169.196]) by red.juniper.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17989; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.juniper.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id BAA05637; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707150840.BAA05637@chimp.juniper.net> From: Tony Li To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG CC: dennis@etinc.com, julian@whistle.com, tli@juniper.net, rls@mail.id.net, spork@super-g.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <7022.868660074@orion.webspan.net> (gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Why does a router need a video card? Seems that you aren't doing the `right thing' and reducing the number of `critical' components. It only needs a video card if you haven't hacked the BIOS to do everything via a serial port. Tony From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 03:54:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA20634 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.kada.lt (alpha.kada.lt [193.219.13.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20629 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 03:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dara (dara [193.219.13.140]) by alpha.kada.lt (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA11252 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:51:09 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <33CB5679.E4899303@kada.lt> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:52:41 +0300 From: Darius Ramanauskas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Help ! /etc/group problems.... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, Here are the problems description: After doing 'adduser foo', the group (etc: users) to which it belongs disappears. 'pw' or 'chown' says that the group does not exist. I found that this happens then lengh of line in the /etc/group file exeed 1023 chars. So the question is how to solve that problem, is there any work around. Or I should separate users to different groups?.... Thank you Darius P.S. I know that someone of you are running with thousands of users. How do you solve this? Yes OS is FBSD 2.1.7 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 07:49:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA01458 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA01453 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.145]) by Wicked.eaznet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20480 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:52:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <33CB8EC9.9DD0193E@eaznet.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:52:57 -0700 From: Eddie Fry Organization: Creative Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: 3Com Etherlink XL 3c90x X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I know this was talked about a few months back, but, after searching the archives and trying to remember, I can't seem to come to a hard resolution. I know the 3COM 3c90x is supported with the vx driver, but it seems there was a lot of talk about it being a slow performer. Is this still true? I need to swap out a fritzy card and I have a 3com 3c90x combo 10Mbps PCI card. Should I expect sub-par performance if I use this card? Thanks, Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 08:32:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04622 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from virtualmarketing.com (email.virtualmarketing.com [207.7.29.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04607 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntserver2 (207.7.29.107) by virtualmarketing.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b2); Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:32:54 -0600 Message-ID: <33CB9814.7D8ACF1A@v-m.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:32:36 -0500 From: Marcin Pasek Reply-To: marcin@v-m.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD as a COMServer....Radius X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can a FreeBSD system be used with a Radius Server. Was anyone successful enought to setup something like that. Please let me know if there is any way to setup a communication server based on a PC computer and multiple-COM boards and FreeBSD that would work with RADIUS just like Livingstone's Portmasters... Thanks Marcin From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 13:20:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21984 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patty.loop.net (patty-inet.loop.net [207.211.60.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21979 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cassy@localhost) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA24770; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:20:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Perkins X-Sender: cassy@patty.loop.net To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Slow web server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running FreeBSD 2.1.5 (and yes, I know it needs upgrading) and today it reports the errors: /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 After the error reports, I have to reboot the server. However, the problem repeats. Has anyone seen this particular error and have any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cassandra M. Perkins | People usually get what's coming to | | Network Operations | them... unless it's been mailed. | | The Loop Internet Switch Co., LLC | -fortune | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 14:39:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25583 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer.bethel.edu (homer.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25575 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turing (turing.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.5.23]) by homer.bethel.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA14684; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:38:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: by turing (NX5.67e) id AA11335; Tue, 15 Jul 97 16:38:29 -0500 Message-Id: <9707152138.AA11335@turing> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Brad G. Parks" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 16:38:22 -0500 To: Cassandra Perkins Subject: Re: Slow web server Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Begin forwarded message: > From: Cassandra Perkins > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.1.5 (and yes, I know it needs upgrading) and today > it reports the errors: > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 > > After the error reports, I have to reboot the server. However, the > problem repeats. Has anyone seen this particular error and have any > suggestions on what I should do? Yup, I've seen it before. My suggestion is that you should ignore it completely. You may want to check the archives on this (my memory isn't optimized right now) but seems to me that's a harmless little info message that was removed in some later version. -brad P.S. Do you really *have to* reboot the server? Hmmm... --- Brad G. Parks bparks AT bethel DOT edu | "But I was going to Tashi Bethel College ACC 3900 Bethel Drive | station to pick up some Arden Hills, MN 55112-6999 612-638-6136 | power converters!" From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 14:50:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26338 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26333 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00757; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:50:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Cassandra Perkins cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slow web server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Cassandra Perkins wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 2.1.5 (and yes, I know it needs upgrading) and today > it reports the errors: > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 > > After the error reports, I have to reboot the server. However, the > problem repeats. Has anyone seen this particular error and have any > suggestions on what I should do? > Its not an error, its a status message that it is getting more traffic etc that the original boot is configged for and adjusted itself. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 14:57:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26576 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.san.rr.com (san.rr.com [204.210.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26569 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.san.rr.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id OAA12348; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707152155.OAA12348@mail.san.rr.com> Received: from dt5h3n16.san.rr.com(204.210.33.22) by mail via smap (V1.3) id tmp012293; Tue Jul 15 14:55:40 1997 From: "Studded" To: "Cassandra Perkins" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 14:55:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Studded" Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Slow web server Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Cassandra Perkins wrote: >I'm running FreeBSD 2.1.5 (and yes, I know it needs upgrading) and today >it reports the errors: > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 > >After the error reports, I have to reboot the server. However, the >problem repeats. Has anyone seen this particular error and have any >suggestions on what I should do? A search of the mail archives on www.freebsd.org/search will give you the details on this, but it is basically a harmless informational message related to your ethernet card and kernel getting in synch. Why do you need to reboot the server after you see this? Doug The man who fears nothing, loves nothing. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 15:14:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27592 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patty.loop.net (patty-inet.loop.net [207.211.60.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA27587 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cassy@localhost) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA07280; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:14:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:14:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Perkins X-Sender: cassy@patty.loop.net To: Studded cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Slow web server In-Reply-To: <199707152155.OAA12348@mail.san.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Soon after noticing that message, I am unable to access the server, even from the console. So if the message does have to do with access being exceeded, I'll try to determine why this is just happening today. Thanks for your help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cassandra M. Perkins | People usually get what's coming to | | Network Operations | them... unless it's been mailed. | | The Loop Internet Switch Co., LLC | -fortune | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Studded wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Cassandra Perkins wrote: > > >I'm running FreeBSD 2.1.5 (and yes, I know it needs upgrading) and today > >it reports the errors: > > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 > > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 > > > >After the error reports, I have to reboot the server. However, the > >problem repeats. Has anyone seen this particular error and have any > >suggestions on what I should do? > > A search of the mail archives on www.freebsd.org/search will give > you the details on this, but it is basically a harmless informational > message related to your ethernet card and kernel getting in synch. Why do > you need to reboot the server after you see this? > > Doug > > The man who fears nothing, loves nothing. > > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 15:42:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29109 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29101 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21640; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707152242.PAA21640@implode.root.com> To: Cassandra Perkins cc: Studded , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Slow web server In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:14:46 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:42:12 -0700 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Soon after noticing that message, I am unable to access the server, even >from the console. So if the message does have to do with access being >exceeded, I'll try to determine why this is just happening today. Sounds like you might be running out of network buffers. The messages that you saw: > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2400 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 1600 ...are unrelated to this, but do indicate that you have a busy machine. Are you also seeing a message that says "Out of mbuf clusters"? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 15 16:20:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00822 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00801 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous215.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.215]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24220; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:20:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id AAA00816; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:29:43 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:29:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707152229.AAA00816@panke.panke.de> From: Wolfram Schneider To: Darius Ramanauskas Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help ! /etc/group problems.... In-Reply-To: <33CB5679.E4899303@kada.lt> References: <33CB5679.E4899303@kada.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Darius Ramanauskas writes: >After doing 'adduser foo', the group (etc: users) to which it belongs >disappears. 'pw' or 'chown' >says that the group does not exist. I found that this happens then lengh of >line in the /etc/group file >exeed 1023 chars. So the question is how to solve that problem, is there any >work around. The 1024 characters limit disappears in FreeBSD 3.0-current ;-) >Or I should separate users to different groups?.... You should not add the login group to /etc/group. This is redundant and was a misfeature of adduser. -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 20:01:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23096 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23089 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id XAA27973; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id XAA29697; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:00:37 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Khanh Nguyen , "Jay D. Nelson" , Dan Riley , Bill Pechter From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: tpage Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:00:37 -0400 Message-ID: <29695.869194837@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, A few people asked, so I thought I'd share. The source to TPAGE that I believe I used can be found at: ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/.20/security/coast/mirrors/ftp.cs.colorado.edu/tpage/tpage_csops-2.1.tar.Z Note that this won't work out of the box on FreeBSD, you have to tweak a couple of things in the source code to get it to compile using FreeBSDs serial I/O system. If I get a chance I may make a port out of it from the local diffs. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 20:12:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23540 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23535 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id DAA25446; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 03:12:34 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:12:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: spork cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root nameservers messed up? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, spork wrote: > Now it looks to me as if the 2.2 boxes are running 4.9.6, and they were > not affected by the alternic stunt. But the 2.1.7 is vulnerable. Now, is > there an *easy*, *safe*, way to bring that box up to speed? I've never > tackled a BIND installation in this manner, and I don't wish to screw > anything up. Does anyone have any pointers/experience with doing this on > FreeBSD? If you use 8.1.1 it shouldn't be any big deal. In fact our primary name server is also our primary radius server just like yours. I upgraded it the first day I saw the corruption. Since 8.1.1 is all userland you just build it, convert named.boot to named.conf, kill the old named and startup the new one. Your DNS will only be down for as long as it takes to load the zone files. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 20:21:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23878 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23871 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA26352; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:20:52 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:20:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Swee-Chuan Khoo cc: Nick Merrill , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to make your name server invulnerable: upgrade to BIND 8.1.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Swee-Chuan Khoo wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Nick Merrill wrote: > > the recommendation I've heard is that you must upgrade to the newest BIND, > > which is 8.1.1. > > i guess 4.9.6 will work too. Yes, and the distribution for bind-4.9.6-REL actually comes preconfigured for FreeBSD and BSD4.4 friends, so simply unpack, type 'make' and it does. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 20:25:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA24045 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from absinthe.i3inc.com (Absinthe.i3inc.com [208.218.26.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24040 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by absinthe.i3inc.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id XAA14889; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707180323.XAA14889@absinthe.i3inc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: absinthe.i3inc.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: eddie@wicked.eaznet.com Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Radius acct In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:47:40 -0700 (MST)" References: <199707171947.MAA25930@Wicked.eaznet.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.03 on Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:23:20 -0400 From: Chris Shenton Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:47:40 -0700 (MST) Eddie Fry wrote: eddie> I've just set up a Livingston PM3 with RADIUS accounting. I want to use Radius to track modem and user usage. Does anyone know of some scripts to do this? I have a script I originally wrote for PM2 and Livingston RADIUS, which I subsequently rewrote for an Ascend Max and Ascend's RADIUS. I've not had the time to back-port it to Livingston's RADIUS, especially the detail-file changes in their RADIUS-2.0. If you wanna give it a go, it's probably not that hard to fiddle the patterns it searches for: making it generic to both would be a real win; it's Perl. My day-job paid for my time to develop it, but I can't spend any more time on it now. Feel free to use it for whatever you want. It's at: http://www.it.hq.nasa.gov/~cshenton/radacct It does some stuff specific to NASA/HQ, like X.500 directory lookups to sort usage by department and stuff. But it will do list-all-sessions, consolidate by user, usage by hour and by day of week. Sorry, but I can't provide any more support for it now... From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 21:28:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27124 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ra.bpsi.net (ra.bpsi.net [199.199.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27068; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (duccini@localhost) by ra.bpsi.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA08161; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:28:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:28:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "David V. Duccini" To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FAQ, I'm sure of it... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to set up the PPP stuff to recognize a PAP/CHAP packet and switch into PPP mode (and...while I'm at it...perform client side radius authentication?) Please, straight answers only, this relates to a driver porting job I'm doing for Multitech, and we run Livingston, CompuTone, and Chase Research terminal servers. I want to make sure that I can emulate or exceed in capability "normal" terminal servers -Duck ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- duccini@bpsi.net BackPack Software, Inc. www.backpack.com +1 612.645.7550 voice BPSI Internet Services www.bpsi.net +1 612.645.9798 fax 1.800eMail info@one800.net www.one800.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 21:51:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28281 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breadfruit.seychelles.net ([202.84.227.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28275 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Atlas.seychelles.net ([202.84.227.21]) by breadfruit.seychelles.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id EAA18795; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 04:57:51 GMT Message-ID: <33CEF599.5D0D@seychelles.net> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:48:25 +0400 From: Muditha Gunatilake Reply-To: muditha@seychelles.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG CC: portmaster-users@livingston.com Subject: OFF Topic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Sorry to bug you with this but www.penril.com is no longer there since they were bought buy some company. I am interested in buying some penril v.34 datalink modems and a rack. We are in the Seychelles (Indian Ocean). Our voltage is 240V. Could some one recommend a place where I get find these. Thanx a million. -- --------------------- Muditha Gunatilake Atlas Seychelles Ltd Phone:304060 email: muditha@seychelles.net mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk muditha@creole.seychelles.net :-) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 21:59:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28568 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (qmailr@mojo.calyx.net [208.132.136.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28561 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24082 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Jul 1997 05:03:03 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:03:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Merrill To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Swee-Chuan Khoo , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to make your name server invulnerable: upgrade to BIND 8.1.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Swee-Chuan Khoo wrote: > > i guess 4.9.6 will work too. > > Yes, and the distribution for bind-4.9.6-REL actually comes preconfigured > for FreeBSD and BSD4.4 friends, so simply unpack, type 'make' and it does. which is cool. however - although the new BIND 8.1.1 isn't preconfigured for FreeBSD AFAIK, it is the new way BIND will be in the future in a new format, and I would rather follow TIS's advice and use 8.1.1 rather than go against their knowledge. YMMV. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nicholas Merrill 24 Hour pager: 917-381-0500 Voice: 212-292-7325 President / CEO http://www.calyx.net Fax : 212-292-7313 Calyx Internet Access 271 E. 10th St. #100 NYC 10009 Email: nick@calyx.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 22:10:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29248 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29235; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26812; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:09:50 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:09:49 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: "David V. Duccini" cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ, I'm sure of it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, David V. Duccini wrote: > > Is there a way to set up the PPP stuff to recognize a PAP/CHAP packet and > switch into PPP mode (and...while I'm at it...perform client side radius > authentication?) > > Please, straight answers only, this relates to a driver porting job I'm > doing for Multitech, and we run Livingston, CompuTone, and Chase > Research terminal servers. I want to make sure that I can emulate or > exceed in capability "normal" terminal servers See ftp.hilink.com.au:/pub/FreeBSD/pppkit.tgz Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 23:11:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA01724 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com [206.14.52.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01718 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jas@localhost) by biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA24363; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199707180610.XAA24363@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> To: dan@dpcsys.com Subject: Re: Root nameservers messed up? Cc: isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dan Busarow writes: > If you use 8.1.1 it shouldn't be any big deal.... Since 8.1.1 is > all userland you just build it, convert named.boot to named.conf, > kill the old named and startup the new one. Your DNS will only > be down for as long as it takes to load the zone files. Just thought I'd note I haven't found it quite that simple. Granted, I'm only an hour into this little project, but an hour was all I'd budgeted -- sort of thought this was going to be a no-brainer. It appears that the syntax of the named.conf file is different from that of the named.boot file of bind 4.x.x. Furthermore, all the documentation I pulled down from ftp.isc.org the other day describes the old boot file format; so far, the only reference for the new named.conf file format that I've found is the yacc grammar. I can live with that if I have to; but did I take a wrong turn somewhere? I think, just in case, I'll go to bed and get a fresh start in the morning .... Jim Shankland Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 23:39:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03276 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from topgun.asiapac.net (topgun.asiapac.net [202.188.0.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03271 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from topgun ([202.188.0.106]) by topgun.asiapac.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA5189; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:36:53 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:36:53 +0800 (SGT) From: Swee-Chuan Khoo X-Sender: sckhoo@topgun To: Jim Shankland cc: dan@dpcsys.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root nameservers messed up? In-Reply-To: <199707180610.XAA24363@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jim Shankland wrote: > have to; but did I take a wrong turn somewhere? I think, just in case, > I'll go to bed and get a fresh start in the morning .... u should find a utilities to convert v4's file to v8. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Swee-Chuan Khoo sckhoo@asiapac.net System Administrator - Internet Evangelist http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ #include ---------------------------------------------------------------- Astronimical Soc M'sia http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/asm.html From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 17 23:58:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04496 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linkou.trace.com.tw (root@linkou.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04491 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate (gate.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.10]) by linkou.trace.com.tw (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA20848; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:57:01 +0800 Message-ID: <33CFF4BF.3FB9@trace.com.tw> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:57:03 -0800 From: Ronald Wiplinger <"Ronald Wiplinger"@linkou.trace.com.tw> Reply-To: ronald@trace.com.tw Organization: Wang's Trace International X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Swee-Chuan Khoo CC: Jim Shankland , dan@dpcsys.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root nameservers messed up? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Swee-Chuan Khoo wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jim Shankland wrote: > > have to; but did I take a wrong turn somewhere? I think, just in case, > > I'll go to bed and get a fresh start in the morning .... > > u should find a utilities to convert v4's file to v8. It is a perl script ;-) It's name is named-bootconf.pl ;-) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 02:46:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA12697 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 02:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12689 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 02:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01733; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:44:39 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:44:39 +0300 (EEST) From: Penisoara Adrian To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root nameservers messed up? In-Reply-To: <11403.869157260@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Don't you think the situation is getting out of control ? > > Noticed those threads on the FreeBSD-security list regarding DNS abuse ? > > Should there be done an announce on FreeBSD-security-announce ? > > No, and in fact the whole subject of DNS pollution should never have > been raised in freebsd-isp. This mailing list is for discussion of ** > FreeBSD specific ISP issues ** and I've complained about the > phenomenon of ISPs using it as a convenient general discussion forum > before (not that it helped much). The same goes for freebsd-security, > really, since abuse of the InterNIC is not really something that the > FreeBSD security team has much power over and hence there's not much > point in taking the issue to them. > > I'm not saying that ISPs don't need a place to talk about generic ISP > kinda stuff - they do. I'm merely saying that this should be handled > by a different set of mailing lists lest the FreeBSD ones be rendered > unusable in the process of [ab]using them for general discussion. As > we gain additional ISP users, this problem is only going to get worse > unless the principles establish and maintain additional forums for > communication, something which I'm all in favor of and I wish they'd > get busy on. :-) > > Jordan I'm sorry for the late reply, I had to go down yesterday for some organizatorical problems... First of all my apologises to Jordan and all people on FreeBSD-isp list; I didn't mean to start diverging from the real topic of the list, but I was deeply worried about these DNS problems (we are a small ISP, so we do care very much). I know, this shouldn't have been shouted on a such specific list, but at that time I had no other place to ask about this. Thanks to Bernie Doehner now I found where to discuss around this subject. Once again, please accept my apologises Jordan, I ment only to help and clarify things; far away from me the thought to use the list for some other purposes - though you're 75% right, yes, the FreeBSD team hasn't that much power over this issue, but still there are those 25%, the BIND release in FreeBSD which should be upgraded to a version immune to this problem. I really mean it, FreeBSD is much too wonderfull to ruin people's belief in it. BTW, thanks goes to all peoples involved in FreeBSD developement and support, their work helped me to be what I am today. Thank you. Apologises for this off topic reply. Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 02:57:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13312 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 02:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13306 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 02:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01835 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:56:50 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:56:50 +0300 (EEST) From: Penisoara Adrian To: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how to make your name server invulnerable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I presume someone involved in the BIND/named integration in FreeBSD would like to give us an report regarding nameservers status in the various releases of FreeBSD (2.1.* / 2.2.* / 3.0-current) and also some useful tips on easily migration towards versions of BIND immune to this problem Thanks Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 03:47:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14870 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 03:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viking.easynet.fr (root@viking.easynet.fr [195.114.64.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14865 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 03:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viking (hal@viking.easynet.fr [195.114.64.6]) by viking.easynet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01708 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:46:30 +0200 Message-ID: <33CF4986.64306E22@easynet.fr> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:46:30 +0200 From: Michael Hallgren Organization: Easynet France X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adduser Plus Script... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Patrick McConnell wrote: > > The adduser script already does this, at least the one that came with > 2.2.2-R. All you have to do is set up /usr/share/skel the way you want a > new user's home dir to be. Mine sets up a new user with ~/public_html, > perm 755. I would still recommend that you learn to use Perl, though. You > will probably find it invaluable to you as a sys admin. This is just excellent. Is it possible also, to let adduser create a file named the login of the added user, and create a softlink back to the added users directory? Cheers Michael > > Patrick > > On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Marcin Pasek wrote: > > > > > I am looking for a Perl Script that would Add users, setup directories > > > with Public_html and index and set the appropriate RIGHT... > > > > /usr/sbin/adduser is a perl script. It is not too hard to modify, to get > > it to mkdir and chmod and chown. Buy a book on perl. You'll find > > yourself wanting to do *lots* of scripts, and you won't always find them > > on this list. > > > > Danny > > > > > > -- > Patrick McConnell (patrick@interlog.com) > Finger info: http://www.interlog.com/~patrick/finger > > "640k ought to be enough for anybody." > -Bill Gates, 1981 -- Michael Hallgren, Easynet France Write : http://www.loria.fr/tex Play : http://www.perl.com/perl From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 06:51:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA21386 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 06:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21375 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 06:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ernie.club-web.com (ernie.club-web.com [207.176.196.12]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA16346 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33CF75C1.41C67EA6@club-web.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:55:13 -0400 From: Mark Segal Organization: Club-Web Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root nameservers messed up? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Swee-Chuan Khoo wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jim Shankland wrote: > > have to; but did I take a wrong turn somewhere? I think, just in case, > > I'll go to bed and get a fresh start in the morning .... > > u should find a utilities to convert v4's file to v8. it's in the src/bin/named/named-bootconf.pl (of the distrubution) it works like a charm.. took me under 5 min's. -- Mark Segal mark@club-web.com System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 07:38:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23355 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mexcom.net (mail.mexcom.net [206.103.64.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23348 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by mail.mexcom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23118; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:37:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <33CF7F9F.7CE3B2E7@mexcom.net> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:37:19 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ronald@trace.com.tw CC: Swee-Chuan Khoo , Jim Shankland , dan@dpcsys.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root nameservers messed up? References: <33CFF4BF.3FB9@trace.com.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > Swee-Chuan Khoo wrote: > > > > On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jim Shankland wrote: > > > have to; but did I take a wrong turn somewhere? I think, just in case, > > > I'll go to bed and get a fresh start in the morning .... > > > > u should find a utilities to convert v4's file to v8. > > It is a perl script ;-) > It's name is named-bootconf.pl ;-) I did this and had a problem. I have two class c's both in the same hosts file that works fine with 4.9.5,but with 8.1.1 I get "owner name error" for all entries from the second class c. Probably this is an error that I have had for a long time and didn't realize it, but now "under the gun" I have half the ip's I had under 4.9.5. If someone else has seen this and has a simple fix, I would appreciate it, I'll even happily accept flames, RTFM, whatever, but please add a solution:-) Ed From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 07:41:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23609 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23591 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eddie@localhost) by Wicked.eaznet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00281 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:42:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:42:42 -0700 (MST) From: Eddie Fry Message-Id: <199707181442.HAA00281@Wicked.eaznet.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: mailing lists Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This may sound like a dumb question, but I haven't had any need to di this until now. How do I set up a mailing list in FreeBSD? Is there a way to send mail to all of the users on my machine without setting up a list? Thanks, Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 08:08:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25538 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25533 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA23242 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:07:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BIND-8.1.1 was: Re: Root nameservers messed up? In-Reply-To: <33CF75C1.41C67EA6@club-web.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From start to finish, it took me about 30 minutes to download, compile and update my nameserver to 8.1.1. It auto detects FreeBSD too! Talk about a no-brainer. Should have done it sooner and the dns would never have been polluted in the first place. Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 08:24:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27399 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lincc.lincc.lib.or.us (lincc.lincc.lib.or.us [198.107.142.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27378 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (george@localhost) by lincc.lincc.lib.or.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA03853; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) From: George Yobst To: Eddie Fry cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mailing lists In-Reply-To: <199707181442.HAA00281@Wicked.eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk *This may sound like a dumb question, but I haven't had any need to di this until now. *How do I set up a mailing list in FreeBSD? Is there a way to send mail to all of the users on my machine without setting up a list? Eddie, We use the addressbook function in Pine for simple lists. Works great for everyone using the same mail server (with shell accounts). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, System Manager email: george@lincc.lib.or.us LINCC phone: 503-655-8550 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 fax: 503-655-8555 Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 webmaster: [www.]lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 08:27:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27796 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from albert.osu.cz (albert.osu.cz [195.113.106.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27786 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (belkovic@localhost) by albert.osu.cz (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00784 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:29:46 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:29:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Josef Belkovics To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND-8.1.1 was: Re: Root nameservers messed up? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >From start to finish, it took me about 30 minutes to download, compile and > update my nameserver to 8.1.1. > > It auto detects FreeBSD too! Talk about a no-brainer. Should have done > it sooner and the dns would never have been polluted in the first place. Well, and where is location for BIND-8.1.1? Josef Belkovics From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 08:51:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29279 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (bmccane.uit.net [208.129.189.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29262 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (localhost.mccane.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmccane.uit.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15986; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:50:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199707181550.KAA15986@bmccane.uit.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: muditha@seychelles.net cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, portmaster-users@livingston.com Subject: Re: OFF Topic In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Jul 1997 08:48:25 +0400." <33CEF599.5D0D@seychelles.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:50:17 -0500 From: Wm Brian McCane Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > Sorry to bug you with this but www.penril.com is no longer there since > they were bought buy some company. I am interested in buying some penril > v.34 datalink modems and a rack. We are in the Seychelles (Indian > Ocean). Our voltage is 240V. > > Could some one recommend a place where I get find these. > > Thanx a million. > -- > --------------------- > Muditha Gunatilake > Atlas Seychelles Ltd > > Phone:304060 > email: muditha@seychelles.net > mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk > muditha@creole.seychelles.net > :-) howdy, I have a customer that is in the process of swapping out a bunch of Penril equipment for 3Com stuff. I don't know if they have any v.34 stuff, but I can check. I do know that they wanted to find a buyer for their stuff if at all possible (it was a HUGE investment to set up a WAN to 34 US cities). brian From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 09:05:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00364 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roguetrader.com (brandon@cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00357; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by roguetrader.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29177; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:05:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:05:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: upgrading to a safe BIND? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My primary DNS is running FreeBSD 2.2-970205-GAMMA. In due time I will be upgrading to 2.2.2, although I may just wait for 3.0 *shrug*. In the mean time, I would like to fix my BIND server. There is no port for it (I guess since its in the distribution).. so which bind do I want? bind-4 or bind-8? And if I get bind-8, will my current configurations work? What differs between the bind distributed with FreeBSD and the bind at isc.org? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 09:09:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00691 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00662; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05547; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:09:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Gary Palmer cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG, Khanh Nguyen , "Jay D. Nelson" , Dan Riley , Bill Pechter Subject: Re: tpage In-Reply-To: <29695.869194837@orion.webspan.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Gary Palmer wrote: > A few people asked, so I thought I'd share. The source to TPAGE that I > believe I used can be found at: > > ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/.20/security/coast/mirrors/ftp.cs.colorado.edu/tpage/tpage_csops-2.1.tar.Z > > Note that this won't work out of the box on FreeBSD, you have to tweak > a couple of things in the source code to get it to compile using > FreeBSDs serial I/O system. If I get a chance I may make a port out of > it from the local diffs. Also, qpage has a BSD patch, and compiles out of the box except for that patch. We've been using qpage for quite some time, and I am completely happy with it, especially the SNNP support, so that only one machine needs a modem, everything just talks to that one machine via TCP/IP (much safer than letting rsh through the firewall). Think I'm gonna roll a port. > Thanks Tom.II for the hand and the program! > > QuickPage was written and tested on a Solaris system, and this patch > will make it compile and run (not much testing done) on a FreeBSD 2.1.x > system (and 2.2.x, too). > > You can get QuickPage from: > > ftp://ftp.it.mtu.edu/pub/QuickPage/ > > Before applying this patch, you need to also apply the qpage-altzone.patch > which is also available above or where you got this patch. > > If you don't know where this came from, check > > ftp://ftp.commline.com/pub/unix/QuickPage/ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 09:25:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01409 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (mojo.calyx.net [208.132.136.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01403 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28065 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Jul 1997 16:29:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Merrill To: Josef Belkovics cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND-8.1.1 was: Re: Root nameservers messed up? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Josef Belkovics wrote: > Well, and where is location for BIND-8.1.1? > > Josef Belkovics here: http://www.vixie.org/isc/bind.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nicholas Merrill 24 Hour pager: 917-381-0500 Voice: 212-292-7325 President / CEO http://www.calyx.net Fax : 212-292-7313 Calyx Internet Access 271 E. 10th St. #100 NYC 10009 Email: nick@calyx.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 10:00:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03125 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03118 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA26807; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:00:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: isp@freebsd.org cc: Josef Belkovics Subject: Re: BIND-8.1.1 was: Re: Root nameservers messed up? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Josef Belkovics wrote: > > >From start to finish, it took me about 30 minutes to download, compile and > > update my nameserver to 8.1.1. > > > > It auto detects FreeBSD too! Talk about a no-brainer. Should have done > > it sooner and the dns would never have been polluted in the first place. > > Well, and where is location for BIND-8.1.1? OOPS: Forgot that one piece of information: ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/src/bind/cur http://www.isc.org/bind.html Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 10:06:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03508 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03499; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id MAA11574; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:06:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199707181706.MAA11574@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: upgrading to a safe BIND? To: brandon@roguetrader.com (Brandon Gillespie) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:06:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Brandon Gillespie at "Jul 18, 97 10:05:53 am" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Brandon Gillespie said: > My primary DNS is running FreeBSD 2.2-970205-GAMMA. In due time I will be > upgrading to 2.2.2, although I may just wait for 3.0 *shrug*. > > In the mean time, I would like to fix my BIND server. There is no port > for it (I guess since its in the distribution).. so which bind do I want? > bind-4 or bind-8? And if I get bind-8, will my current configurations > work? What differs between the bind distributed with FreeBSD and the bind > at isc.org? Bind as distributed in FreeBSD is 4.9.x. And it works fine. Of course, there are security bugs. I haven't tried compiling a newer version of 4.9.x lately. I had some trouble earlier (2.1.[5-7]). 4.9.x distributions are written to be platform specific. Ie. it wants to change libraries. the 8.x distribution does not do this. I did compile bind-8 on 2.2.1 and it seemed to run fine as a secondary. I didn't try it as a primary, though there should be no difference. It does use a different config file than bind-4. named.conf instead of named.boot, I think. But there is a little script (perl?) that comes with the distribution to convert it. There are some neat things in bind-8. You might want to play with it. I tried compiling it on 2.1.7, but it failed, due to a problem in a system header file that wasn't Posix compliant in 2.1.7 but was fixed in 2.2.x. -- "I never said I had no idea about most of the things you said I said I had no idea about. --Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams, making excuses over his involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal, 1987 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 11:22:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07616 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.id.net (mail.id.net [199.125.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07606 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.id.net (server.id.net [199.125.2.20]) by mail.id.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA01405; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:22:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Shady Received: (from rls@localhost) by server.id.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA04927; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707181821.OAA04927@server.id.net> Subject: Re: OFF Topic In-Reply-To: <199707181550.KAA15986@bmccane.uit.net> from Wm Brian McCane at "Jul 18, 97 10:50:17 am" To: root@bmccane.uit.net (Wm Brian McCane) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 14:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: muditha@seychelles.net, isp@FreeBSD.ORG, portmaster-users@livingston.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Sorry to bug you with this but www.penril.com is no longer there since > > they were bought buy some company. I am interested in buying some penril > > v.34 datalink modems and a rack. We are in the Seychelles (Indian > > Ocean). Our voltage is 240V. > > > > Could some one recommend a place where I get find these. > > I have a customer that is in the process of swapping out a bunch of > Penril equipment for 3Com stuff. I don't know if they have any v.34 stuff, > but I can check. I do know that they wanted to find a buyer for their stuff > if at all possible (it was a HUGE investment to set up a WAN to 34 US cities). Brian; It's pretty unlikely that the equipment used to setup a WAN to 34 US cities runs on 240V as he stated he needed... :) -- Rob === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 11:23:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07669 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milehigh.denver.net (milehigh.denver.net [204.144.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07659; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jdc@localhost) by milehigh.denver.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02705; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:23:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:23:47 -0600 (MDT) From: John-David Childs To: Brandon Gillespie cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading to a safe BIND? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > My primary DNS is running FreeBSD 2.2-970205-GAMMA. In due time I will be > upgrading to 2.2.2, although I may just wait for 3.0 *shrug*. > > In the mean time, I would like to fix my BIND server. There is no port > for it (I guess since its in the distribution).. so which bind do I want? > bind-4 or bind-8? And if I get bind-8, will my current configurations BIND 4.9.6 would be "safe" and compatible with your current config files, although ultimately I would recommend BIND 8.1.1. The latter is so much more configurable you'll thank yourself for taking the time to upgrade. I wrote a sed/awk script to convert my primary/secondary zone information from 4.X syntax to 8.X syntax. I recommend using include files for your primary/secondary zone info so that once you've got the basic configuration, you never touch the master config file. > work? What differs between the bind distributed with FreeBSD and the bind > at isc.org? I compiled 8..1.1 on FreeBSD 2.2.2 last week. It compiles out of the box. THe primary differences are that FreeBSD puts some of the binaries in different places than isc does (e.g. /usr/bin vs. /usr/sbin) and that the isc man pages go in /usr/share/man/cat* instead of /usr/share/man/man* -- John-David Childs (JC612) @denver.net/Internet-Coach System Administrator Enterprise Internet Solutions & Network Engineer 901 E 17th Ave, Denver 80218 If you want your spouse to listen and pay strict attention to every word you say, talk in your sleep. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 12:15:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10858 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commlitho.com (thor.commlitho.com [207.254.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10840 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707181915.MAA10840@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from [207.254.73.18] by commlitho.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A0398C4D0140; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:12:57 -0700 From: "Patrick Burm" To: Subject: DNS "slow" Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:14:25 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a P100 setup as the "primary" nameserver for my dial-up users. I am using a PM3 from livingston for my access server. The P100 has 48 megs RAM. My question is...is a P100 fast enough if DNS is all this box is really doing? Reason I'm asking...some of my users are getting "error getting address for xxx.xxxx.xxx" for my own mail server! they can try again a second time and everything is fine. The ones who complain the most are the people with 14.4s. Anyone seen this problem. Where should I look? DNS box, DNS NIC, or ethernet itself. I also notice that a "pmwho" will sometimes not resolve reverse addresses either, then a second pull will have the names listed. Thanks ---------- Patrick Burm Commercial Lithographers Mesa, AZ 602.844.2294 patb@commlitho.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 12:16:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10950 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roguetrader.com (brandon@cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10945; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by roguetrader.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29713; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:16:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:16:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: John-David Childs cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading to a safe BIND? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, John-David Childs wrote: > > work? What differs between the bind distributed with FreeBSD and the bind > > at isc.org? > > I compiled 8..1.1 on FreeBSD 2.2.2 last week. It compiles out of the box. > THe primary differences are that FreeBSD puts some of the binaries in > different places than isc does (e.g. /usr/bin vs. /usr/sbin) and that the > isc man pages go in /usr/share/man/cat* instead of /usr/share/man/man* Why don't we ship FreeBSD with bind-8? From what I've read, it seems like the better of the two.. -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 13:06:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13375 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13316 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03415; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 22:59:29 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 22:59:29 +0300 (EEST) From: Penisoara Adrian To: Brandon Gillespie cc: John-David Childs , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading to a safe BIND? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, John-David Childs wrote: > > > work? What differs between the bind distributed with FreeBSD and the bind > > > at isc.org? > > > > I compiled 8..1.1 on FreeBSD 2.2.2 last week. It compiles out of the box. > > THe primary differences are that FreeBSD puts some of the binaries in > > different places than isc does (e.g. /usr/bin vs. /usr/sbin) and that the > > isc man pages go in /usr/share/man/cat* instead of /usr/share/man/man* > > Why don't we ship FreeBSD with bind-8? From what I've read, it seems like > the better of the two.. I stick with bind-8 too ! bind-4 is maintained only for 'compatibility' while bind-8 is the official developement kit... Now I'd surely like to see 'jkh@time.cdrom.com' signature after "named 8.1.1" ... don't you Jordan ? :) No offence. > > -Brandon Gillespie > > Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 13:10:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13540 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13532; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01740; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:10:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: questions@freebsd.org cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Portmaster/Radius check usage script Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If anyone out there is using a CGI script so users can check how many hours they have been online, would you be willing to share. :) Livingston provides a script for doing it in a shell, but not for users wanting to do it from our web page. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 15:05:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19045 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.id.net (mail.id.net [199.125.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19040 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.id.net (shell.id.net [199.125.2.8]) by mail.id.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA03204; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Shady Received: (from rls@localhost) by shell.id.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA10556; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707182205.SAA10556@shell.id.net> Subject: Re: DNS "slow" In-Reply-To: <199707181915.MAA10840@hub.freebsd.org> from Patrick Burm at "Jul 18, 97 12:14:25 pm" To: patb@commlitho.com (Patrick Burm) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a P100 setup as the "primary" nameserver > for my dial-up users. I am using a PM3 from livingston > for my access server. The P100 has 48 megs RAM. > > My question is...is a P100 fast enough if DNS is all > this box is really doing? That is *WAY* overkill for most nameservers at *most* ISP's. I wouldn't downgrade, but it should be plenty if that's all the machine is doing.... > Reason I'm asking...some of my users are getting > "error getting address for xxx.xxxx.xxx" for my > own mail server! they can try again a second time > and everything is fine. The ones who complain the > most are the people with 14.4s. They could be timing out. Have you had any problems looking up dns's locally (Aside from below). > I also notice that a "pmwho" will sometimes not > resolve reverse addresses either, then a second pull > will have the names listed. The livingston boxes don't do DNS lookups unless they NEED to, therefor it's fairly normal to notice the first 'pmwho' not resolve the entries, and the second one resolve them.. They do 'timeout', so if you wait awhile, another pmwho will not resolve, but if you run it again, it will.. Etc.. It's a vicious cycle. -- Rob === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 15:41:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20863 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commlitho.com (thor.commlitho.com [207.254.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20858 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707182241.PAA20858@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from [207.254.73.18] by commlitho.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A0E1B9E4014C; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:40:33 -0700 From: "Patrick Burm" To: "Robert Shady" Cc: Subject: Re: DNS "slow" Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:42:04 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have a P100 setup as the "primary" nameserver > > for my dial-up users. I am using a PM3 from livingston > > for my access server. The P100 has 48 megs RAM. > > > > My question is...is a P100 fast enough if DNS is all > > this box is really doing? > > That is *WAY* overkill for most nameservers at *most* > ISP's. I wouldn't downgrade, but it should be plenty > if that's all the machine is doing.... > > > Reason I'm asking...some of my users are getting > > "error getting address for xxx.xxxx.xxx" for my > > own mail server! they can try again a second time > > and everything is fine. The ones who complain the > > most are the people with 14.4s. > > They could be timing out. Have you had any problems > looking up dns's locally (Aside from below). Locally the dns seems to be fine (i.e. from ethernet machines or the unix servers themselves) Thanks for your reply....I still need to find out why its happening...people aren't too impressed that it works on the second try :) > > I also notice that a "pmwho" will sometimes not > > resolve reverse addresses either, then a second pull > > will have the names listed. > > The livingston boxes don't do DNS lookups unless they > NEED to, therefor it's fairly normal to notice the > first 'pmwho' not resolve the entries, and the second > one resolve them.. They do 'timeout', so if you wait > awhile, another pmwho will not resolve, but if you run > it again, it will.. Etc.. It's a vicious cycle. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 17:04:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25044 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25031; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA01691; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 00:04:28 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:04:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading to a safe BIND? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > Why don't we ship FreeBSD with bind-8? From what I've read, it seems like > the better of the two.. The new named.conf syntax. You could ask people at install time if they want their named.boot converted to named.conf and that would work for most people. But a lot of us have scripts that update that file and they need to be re-written to handle the new format. I think we need to wait until 8.x has been in circulation for a while before breaking several years worth of tools. I'd suggest 3.0 as a target for the new version. By the time that is released I would guess that most everyone who has automated DNS tools will have converted on their own. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 17:32:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26157 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from in4.doitnow.com (in4.doitnow.com [207.98.156.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26152 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tislam@localhost) by in4.doitnow.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26695; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:28:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:28:48 -0700 (MST) From: Taufik Islam To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is there way to increase the swap space without up reformatting the drive? In-Reply-To: <199707160925.JAA23751@npc.haplink.co.cn> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i want to increase the swap space. Is there way to increase the swap space without up reformatting the drive? Thanks Taufik From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 17:56:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27166 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27148; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03249; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:55:57 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:55:56 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Dan Busarow cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading to a safe BIND? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Dan Busarow wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > > Why don't we ship FreeBSD with bind-8? From what I've read, it seems like > > the better of the two.. > > The new named.conf syntax. If I get a chance this w/e, I'll build 811 and release it as a package. That would be the best way to transition (and to get everyone to upgrade faster). If someone beats me to it, I won't complain, though. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 18:25:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28458 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28438; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 18:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id VAA06915; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 21:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id VAA04287; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 21:25:23 -0400 (EDT) To: Brandon Gillespie cc: John-David Childs , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: upgrading to a safe BIND? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:16:42 MDT." Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 21:25:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4284.869275523@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brandon Gillespie wrote in message ID : > On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, John-David Childs wrote: > > > work? What differs between the bind distributed with FreeBSD and the bin > d > > > at isc.org? > > > > I compiled 8..1.1 on FreeBSD 2.2.2 last week. It compiles out of the box. > > THe primary differences are that FreeBSD puts some of the binaries in > > different places than isc does (e.g. /usr/bin vs. /usr/sbin) and that the > > isc man pages go in /usr/share/man/cat* instead of /usr/share/man/man* > > Why don't we ship FreeBSD with bind-8? From what I've read, it seems like > the better of the two.. I believe the resolver code for libc is radically different, and that The Powers That Be (TM) want to keep the two consistent (i.e. upgrading the resolver when they upgrade named) (keeps the possibility of bugs to a minimum) The bind 8.1.1 resolver uses /etc/nsswitch I believe, which is a major departure from what is now used... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 19:51:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02317 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02311 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA15396; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:50:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Taufik Islam cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there way to increase the swap space without up reformatting the drive? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:28:48 PDT." Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:50:38 -0700 Message-ID: <15393.869280638@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Use a swap file. See /etc/sysconfig (or /etc/rc.conf in newer systems) for the appropriate variable. > i want to increase the swap space. > Is there way to increase the swap space without up reformatting the drive? > > Thanks > Taufik > > From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 18 23:13:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09493 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roguetrader.com (brandon@cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09472; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by roguetrader.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA01182; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 00:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 00:13:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Dan Busarow , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BIND-8 port (was Re: upgrading to a safe BIND?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Dan Busarow wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > > > Why don't we ship FreeBSD with bind-8? From what I've read, it seems like > > > the better of the two.. > > > > The new named.conf syntax. > > If I get a chance this w/e, I'll build 811 and release it as a package. > That would be the best way to transition (and to get everyone to upgrade > faster). If someone beats me to it, I won't complain, though. I'll see if I can do it.. just a note for whoever does.. perhaps include in the port a hook to run the conversion scripts from bind-4 to bind-8 (after prompting, of course). -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 05:00:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA22347 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csgs2.c-s-g.com ([209.12.189.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22342 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ricko.jcrnet.com ([209.12.189.38]) by csgs2.c-s-g.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-0U10) with SMTP id AAA90 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:57:49 -0600 Message-ID: <33D0ACFE.417C@c-s-g.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 06:03:10 -0600 From: rosteen@c-s-g.com (Rick Osteen) Reply-To: rosteen@c-s-g.com Organization: Internet Access of El Paso X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: man files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I must have flew right by the part of answering whether I wanted the man pages loaded for every command. I get an error that they are not available: $ man vi No manual entry for vi $ So, if someone could help me load them, I would be very grateful. Rick From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 09:44:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02522 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from weblanix.vianet.com.mx (weblanix.vianet.com.mx [200.23.228.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02517 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coract.com.mx (coract.com.mx [200.23.228.1]) by weblanix.vianet.com.mx (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id ba031435 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:43:40 +0000 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Departamento_de_Ingenier=EDa_de_Servicio?=" To: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:43:40 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <17434090604846@vianet.com.mx> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody here know what can i do to stop this error: utmp_entry: write- File too large I've been trying to find out how to correct the prolem but i was not succed. Thanks for any help From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 09:47:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02632 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from weblanix.vianet.com.mx (weblanix.vianet.com.mx [200.23.228.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02626 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coract.com.mx (coract.com.mx [200.23.228.1]) by weblanix.vianet.com.mx (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id fa031439 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:46:10 +0000 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Departamento_de_Ingenier=EDa_de_Servicio?=" To: Subject: an error in utmp Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:46:10 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <17461064004850@vianet.com.mx> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody here know what can i do to stop this error: utmp_entry: write- File too large I've been trying to find out how to correct the prolem but i was not succed. Thanks for any help From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 09:50:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02879 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helpdesk.euronet.nl (helpdesk.euronet.nl [194.134.1.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02874 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sake@localhost) by helpdesk.euronet.nl (8.8.4/8.6.12) id SAA02843; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:48:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Sake Blok Message-Id: <199707191648.SAA02843@helpdesk.euronet.nl> Subject: Re: man files To: rosteen@c-s-g.com Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:48:58 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: sake@euronet.nl In-Reply-To: <33D0ACFE.417C@c-s-g.com> from "Rick Osteen" at Jul 19, 97 06:03:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I must have flew right by the part of answering whether I wanted the man > pages loaded for every command. [...] > So, if someone could help me load them, I would be very grateful. First of all I'd like to state that this question doesn't belong in this group IMHO. This is a general FreeBSD-question and is not ISP-specific. Please keep the character of the group in mind when submitting questions. OK now for the way to go: First download the manpages distribution to your harddisk from ftp://ftp..freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/x.x.x-RELEASE/manpages and then run the install-script that came with it. Although I never did this myself, I think it should work perfectly. Sake -- Sake Blok * * EuroNet Internet Client Services Team * * Herengracht 208 - 214 * 1016 BS Amsterdam sake@nl.euro.net * tel: +31 20 625 61 61 From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 11:20:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05945 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intuition.iagnet.net (intuition.iagnet.net [207.206.8.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05925; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by intuition.iagnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6/gavroche) id OAA16843; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707191820.OAA16843@intuition.iagnet.net> Subject: timezone To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:20:29 -0400 (EDT) RFC_Violation: You saw it here first! From: jamie@intuition.iagnet.net (Jamie Rishaw) X-PGP-Fingerprint: <921C135D> C4 48 1B 26 18 7B 1F D9 BA C4 9C 7A B1 07 07 E8 Reply-To: jamie@intuition.iagnet.net Organization: Internet Access Group, Inc. X-No-Archive: yes X-Face: >:-p X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a really dumb question, but I know it's probably an FAQ. How do you change the time zone on a machine? I had a disk die on a server last week.. I brought up a new system, and am synching time via NTP.. the problem is, it's 5 hours off.. (exactly 5 hours off) ;) I think the GMT offset is hosed.. where can I look to fix this? Thanks ;) -jamie -- jamie g.k. rishaw dal/efnet:gavroche Internet Access Group 'whois JGR2' for PGP keyID/Fingerprint __ Network Operations/TSD DID:216.902.5455 FAX:216.623.3566 \/ 800.637.4IAGx5455 "The machine's fine. It just doesn't work." -dan@nic.net From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 12:14:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07669 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.san.rr.com (mail-atm.san.rr.com [204.210.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07649; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.san.rr.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA21912; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707191913.MAA21912@mail.san.rr.com> Received: from dt5h3n16.san.rr.com(204.210.33.22) by mail via smap (V1.3) id tmp021807; Sat Jul 19 12:13:27 1997 From: "Studded" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "jamie@intuition.iagnet.net" Date: Sat, 19 Jul 97 12:13:12 -0800 Reply-To: "Studded" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: timezone Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:20:29 -0400 (EDT), Jamie Rishaw wrote: >This is a really dumb question, but I know it's probably an FAQ. It is, many times over. For future reference a quick check at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html will save everyone a lot of time, including you. Also, this is a general fbsd question, and doesn't really belong on the -isp list, although I'm not as anal about this as Jordan. I actually think it's kind of nice to have a "knowledgable and friendly" list where a little digression is not a bad thing. I actually refer potential converts to the -isp list for a feel of how freebsd is used for "real work," but I digress. :) >How do you change the time zone on a machine? su to root, /stand/sysintall, Configure, Time Zone. When you're done, you also might want to touch /etc/wall_cmos_clock to make sure it's synched, and check out the man pages for adjkerntz. This does lead me to a question I've been meaning to ask though.. why doesn't date work as advertised? I know we have /stand/sysinstall, but it would be nice if date did this function since the man pages say it's 'posed to. :) Good luck, Doug The man who fears nothing, loves nothing. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 12:40:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08804 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.nms.net (34.good.net [165.247.65.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08793 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remote1 (slip1.nms.net [165.247.65.36]) by ns1.nms.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02575 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:42:39 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199707191942.MAA02575@ns1.nms.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ronald E. Eakins, Sr." Organization: Network Management Solutions, Inc. To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:37:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: DNS "slow" Reply-to: reakins@nms.net Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199707182241.PAA20858@hub.freebsd.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53) Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: "Patrick Burm" > To: "Robert Shady" > Cc: > Subject: Re: DNS "slow" > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:42:04 -0700 > > > Reason I'm asking...some of my users are getting > > > "error getting address for xxx.xxxx.xxx" for my > > > own mail server! they can try again a second time > > > and everything is fine. The ones who complain the > > > most are the people with 14.4s. > > I have seen this problem under the following conditions: You have a Primary and a Secondary server and the clients point at the Secondary server first. Since the secondary server has to obtain info from the primary, it goes to get the name from the primary, but by then, the client has timed out. Now the client tries again and this time the secondary has the address in it's cache so the lookup works. OR: Your primary DNS is getting it's names from some server higher up the tree which is a secondary server. As and example - U.S. West uses multiple DNS Servers of which only one is the primary. And of course they don't want everyone under them to point at one machine so one of their secondaries is what your primary points at. Same problem occurs, the machine your primary is pointing at has to go resolve the name and guess what, the client times out. Don't know how you can really fix that one. Check with whoever it is that is the next guy up the DNS tree supplying you. > > They could be timing out. Have you had any problems > > looking up dns's locally (Aside from below). There are lots of other issues here with DNS lookups. How you have configured the DNS can adversely effect performance. Those first few lines regarding timeouts are lots more important than people give them credit for. My source for DNS questions is here: http://www.acmebw.com/askmr.htm I would suggest you try this link. Ronald E. Eakins, Sr. Network Engineer Network Management Solutions, Inc. www.nms.net reakins@nms.net ---------------------------------- Ronald E. Eakins, Sr. Network Engineer Network Management Solutions, Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 15:55:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15807 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veda.is (spiral.veda.is [193.4.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15800 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ubiq.veda.is (ubiq.veda.is [193.4.230.60]) by veda.is (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18503 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:55:16 GMT From: Adam David Received: (from adam@localhost) by ubiq.veda.is (8.8.6/8.8.5) id WAA03620 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:55:13 GMT Message-Id: <199707192255.WAA03620@ubiq.veda.is> Subject: anon PPP To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:55:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What mechanisms exist for providing secondary anonymous PPP logins using pppd? I need a simple method of allocating from a second IP pool any logins for which primary authentication fails, i.e. the IP address depends on the result of the authentication. -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 18:18:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20749 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20743 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08558; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 11:18:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 11:18:12 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Adam David cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anon PPP In-Reply-To: <199707192255.WAA03620@ubiq.veda.is> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Adam David wrote: > What mechanisms exist for providing secondary anonymous PPP logins using pppd? > I need a simple method of allocating from a second IP pool any logins for > which primary authentication fails, i.e. the IP address depends on the result > of the authentication. Right now, you can specify an IP address for the user in /etc/ppp/pap.secrets but you can't specify an alternate IP address for the port. I don't think this would be too hard to do, if you look at the code in auth.c which does the pap-secrets IP bit. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 20:42:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26419 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26413 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.134]) by Wicked.eaznet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05874 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:43:35 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <33D189DA.16D0@eaznet.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 20:45:30 -0700 From: Eddie Fry Organization: Creative Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Portmaster 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a confusing problem. I've recently installed a PM3 with ComOS 3.5.1b20 on a channelized T-1. A lot of my customers now complain that they keep getting disconnected from the network or they get messages when they log in that they cannot establish a network connection. We were previously using a USR Total Control and these customers had no problems. Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 19 21:47:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28853 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 21:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28846 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 21:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22628 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Jul 1997 04:41:15 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 00:41:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Eddie Fry cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Portmaster 3 In-Reply-To: <33D189DA.16D0@eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a confusing problem. I've recently installed a PM3 with ComOS > 3.5.1b20 on a channelized T-1. A lot of my customers now complain that > they keep getting disconnected from the network or they get messages > when they log in that they cannot establish a network connection. We > were previously using a USR Total Control and these customers had no > problems. Does anybody have any ideas? Honestly, go search the Portmaster-users mailing list at Livinston....I was on the list for a while and there were many similar problems like the one you are having...I don't remember what exactly it was that was the problem in most cases, but it might've been buggy code...I think 3.5.1b8 was the most stable one they had at that time. -Gary Margiotta TBE Internet Services http://www.tbe.net