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Date:      Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:29:39 +0100
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "Terry Lambert" <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        "f.johan.beisser" <jan@caustic.org>, "FreeBSD Chat" <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: UNIX on the Desktop (was: Re: Why no Indians and Arabs?)
Message-ID:  <001101c186dd$5ab94430$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <20011216112759.U16958-100000@localhost> <002f01c1866e$1e4d9510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C1DB7EB.9232204A@mindspring.com>

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Terry writes:

> Are you aware that most of the Windows
> design, from the 1.0 version onward, was
> based on HP VUE(tm), including the function
> key bindings (ALT-F4 to close, etc.)?

I am now, but that has no effect on my statement.  UNIX was designed as a
multiuser, text-based, server timesharing system; Windows and the Mac were
designed as single-user, GUI-based, desktop systems.  It should be
self-evident that the latter would naturally tend to fit into the desktop
environment better than the former.

> This is actually a minus, since credential
> domains are a significant barrier to having
> your system "owned", aqnd contain damage when
> the worst does happen (crackers, virus, worms,
> etc.).

The worst rarely happens, and most desktop users prefer convenience to
security.  Insofar as they limit this to the desktop, there is little reason
not to indulge them.

> Actually, you probaqbly weren't there for
> Windows through 95 ...

I was there for all versions of Windows.

> Lindows.  MacOS X.

I'm talking about UNIX and Windows/Mac (the conventional Mac OS), not
hybrids.

> The ability to perform "point-and-click" for
> trivial administrative tasks (such as minimal
> firewall installation, or minimal mail server
> configuration) far, far outweighs "raw power"
> in most cases.

Point-and-click gets very tiring very quickly when you have to do a lot of
system administration, especially at a distance.  Just modifying a text file
can be a lot faster and simpler.




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