From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 28 19:18:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C861065670 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1C58FC0A for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:18:15 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MR-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KS8009XRNSD3502@VL-MR-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AE8885E.6020101@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:07:26 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Tony McC References: <4AE3944A.4090602@videotron.ca> <20091025062322.GA985@sandcat> <4AE63986.6090106@videotron.ca> <20091027051352.417ce684@scorpio.seibercom.net> <1256674827.6414.8.camel@lenzinote.wrinfo> <4AE7696F.1030601@videotron.ca> <20091028125318.44ee6593@elena.home> <20091028141025.248563e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AE8435E.7030202@videotron.ca> <20091028160000.035fa0ef@elena.home> <20091028164656.79c2b5ad@elena.home> In-reply-to: <20091028164656.79c2b5ad@elena.home> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:18:15 -0000 Tony McC wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:00:00 +0000 > Tony McC wrote: > > >> Hi PJ, >> >> ok, I tried (I was also trying to offer you support, just a different >> kind). There was a lot of irrelevant material in your response but the >> part I have quoted shows such a deep misunderstanding of what I was >> trying to suggest that I think I'm done. I honestly hope you do get >> past your headaches with FreeBSD, one way or another. >> > > Replying to myself, sorry. I think I owe you an apology for a grumpy > response. I think it comes down to the fact our "learning styles" must > be very different. You seem to like to try things first and then try > to understand when things go wrong. I like to gain a reasonably firm > theoretical understanding first and then try out things according to a > plan, keeping notes at each stage. When something happens that I don't > understand then of course I learn from that. I think we are just > different. So no, I'm not suggesting you learn the manual by heart > before going any further. I am suggesting that you *start* with the > manual, take it step by step, and only try things that might break your > system when a) you think you have a firm grasp of what you are doing > and b) you have a contingency plan to revert to the way things were > before if something surprising happens. And, again, as part of a > "learning style", when I do come across those uncomfortable surprises > (and I do), I generally assume that I must have done something stupid, > not that FreeBSD itself is stupid. That is also a learning experience > for me. > > Best, > Tony > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > That's cool. NP. My thing is simply... if it works use it. If it doesn't try to fix it... and here's where you sometimes have to learn or find help. 8-)