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Date:      02 Apr 2002 16:25:28 +0930
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix
Message-ID:  <1017730532.71119.122.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <002d01c1da0d$f4043130$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020401184152.00e3ed10@nospam.lariat.org>  <002d01c1da0d$f4043130$0a00000a@atkielski.com>

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On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 15:46, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> You're running a version that contains thousands of bugs and was obsolete
> years ago.  I run 6.0, which is also obsolete, I guess, but I only use it to
> test pages.  My usual browser is MSIE 6.0, and sometimes I run Opera 6.0,
> which is of about equal quality (but not free).

I can't believe people find MSIE better than Moz/Galeon/etc.
(Try Kmeleon - same engine as moz in a tiny download for windows).

I did try upgrade to MSIE 6 but I Windows Update failed to work for no
readily apparent reason (it said I should make sure I was connected to
the internet.. HELLO!?)

IE 5.5 is OK, but not great, it crashes more often than Moz/Galeon but
less than Netscape. There aren't any web sites I visit that Moz/Galeon
won't handle (I don't require flash, but I have used linux-moz with the
flash plugin on other occasions).

Moz/Galeon have the features I want (decent auto-form filling, cookie
and image blocking etc). I have yet to see a way in IE to selectivly
disable active content without it asking you stupid questions like
"Would you like to run scripts on this page?" - there is no 'more info'
button, or a check box or anything! Dumb.. No pop-up blocking either.

I have tried Opera under FreeBSD but it seemed very ugly (maybe I have
the wrong fonts installed or something) and not too stable.

I also really _love_ how IE downloads plugins for you and THEN asks you
if you want to install them.. Urk thanks but no thanks..

As for the 1 version of Windows thing..
Try installing Office 2k on a Windows 95 PC and watch it spend 20-30
minutes installing extra crap on your system and rebooting a few times
before it can even _start_ the office install. Yech.

I found it easier to install Mozilla than IE6.. pkg_add -rv mozilla is
pretty damn easy. I have yet to convince my PC that it is online to
install IE6.

BTW I found NS6 for windows sucked pretty hard, but 6.1 is better.

---
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
  -- Andrew Tanenbaum


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