From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 1 22:55:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FE837B421 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 22:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g326tYru084092; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:25:36 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Brett Glass , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <002d01c1da0d$f4043130$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020401184152.00e3ed10@nospam.lariat.org> <002d01c1da0d$f4043130$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 02 Apr 2002 16:25:28 +0930 Message-Id: <1017730532.71119.122.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5 required=5 X-Spam-Level: (-5) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 15:46, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > You're running a version that contains thousands of bugs and was obsolete > years ago. I run 6.0, which is also obsolete, I guess, but I only use it to > test pages. My usual browser is MSIE 6.0, and sometimes I run Opera 6.0, > which is of about equal quality (but not free). I can't believe people find MSIE better than Moz/Galeon/etc. (Try Kmeleon - same engine as moz in a tiny download for windows). I did try upgrade to MSIE 6 but I Windows Update failed to work for no readily apparent reason (it said I should make sure I was connected to the internet.. HELLO!?) IE 5.5 is OK, but not great, it crashes more often than Moz/Galeon but less than Netscape. There aren't any web sites I visit that Moz/Galeon won't handle (I don't require flash, but I have used linux-moz with the flash plugin on other occasions). Moz/Galeon have the features I want (decent auto-form filling, cookie and image blocking etc). I have yet to see a way in IE to selectivly disable active content without it asking you stupid questions like "Would you like to run scripts on this page?" - there is no 'more info' button, or a check box or anything! Dumb.. No pop-up blocking either. I have tried Opera under FreeBSD but it seemed very ugly (maybe I have the wrong fonts installed or something) and not too stable. I also really _love_ how IE downloads plugins for you and THEN asks you if you want to install them.. Urk thanks but no thanks.. As for the 1 version of Windows thing.. Try installing Office 2k on a Windows 95 PC and watch it spend 20-30 minutes installing extra crap on your system and rebooting a few times before it can even _start_ the office install. Yech. I found it easier to install Mozilla than IE6.. pkg_add -rv mozilla is pretty damn easy. I have yet to convince my PC that it is online to install IE6. BTW I found NS6 for windows sucked pretty hard, but 6.1 is better. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message