From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 09:38:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FCE16A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCAE13C46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m169auUd002070; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:36:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m169asSd002067; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:36:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:36:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Osterholm In-Reply-To: <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> Message-ID: <20080206103009.G2022@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:38:43 -0000 > being. Without an ISP's help, they won't know who owns your IP well it's enough to do whois to know in my case. anyway - i don't sell drugs or plan to attack with a nuke - but anyway i don't want to be monitored! tor and/or anonymous proxies does the good job for me, except i can't use google this way. > address. If your ISP is willing to give you up to anyone who asks, > I'd be worried about more than just Google. > > What are the laws in your country like regarding this? in our funny country - Poland - law encourages all ISP to record everything, but the same law doesn't have any punishment for doing so. it's actually law created for those who like to monitor everyone, changing what would be otherwise crime - to requirement. As i'm a small ISP myself, i should record EVERYTHING my users transmit. ignoring local LAN transmissions that can't be easily controlled at all, in theory i should write about 20 DVD's daily if i would really do tcpdump everything. of course law dont say who will pay 600PLN/month for cheap DVD's only, not mentioning one half-time job for just recording it ;) i don't archive anything for a long term, i just do backups to protect from data loss, nothing more.