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Date:      Mon, 14 Apr 2014 00:36:28 -0500
From:      David Noel <david.i.noel@gmail.com>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-security-local@be-well.ilk.org>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Retiring portsnap [was MITM attacks against portsnap and freebsd-update]
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> Indeed it is not.  David's solution - which seems to amount to removing
> portsnap and herding the cats at home to DTRT about using svn securely -
> relies on other cats being as smart and aware of the ramifications as he
> is - a highly questionable proposition especially for the numerous more
> naive users that portsnap renders the process of securely upgrading the
> ports tree just about as simple and consistent as it can be.

On the one hand I do get what you're saying. On the other I don't know
that you're fairly characterizing the typical portsnap user. Building
ports from source is not something I would think a novice FreeBSD user
would do (make can be--and often is--an absolute nightmare!). Rather,
I would imagine a novice would be using something like pkgng.

> David, perhaps your obvious talent for auditing the portsnap code and
> its server-side configuration might be better applied to remedying any
> perceived vulnerabilities in conjunction with present and past security
> officers and teams?

Thanks. I'm happy to, and it's on my to-do list, the only problem is
that I'm swamped with other projects and it's been sitting on that
list for the past 2 years. It seems to be a similar problem for Colin
and the Security Team. I'm hoping that by bringing this bug to the
list that someone with more free time will be able to patch it.

-David



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