From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 20 21:36:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06B837B404 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5L4Z4Lo006179; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alan@agora.rdrop.com) Received: (from alan@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g5L4Z3oq006178; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:35:03 -0700 From: Alan Batie To: j mckitrick Cc: Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Future of Java question.... Message-ID: <20020620213503.H94323@agora.rdrop.com> Mail-Followup-To: j mckitrick , Mikhail Kruk , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020621035341.A2383@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020621041657.A2565@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020620203124.E94323@agora.rdrop.com> <20020621043555.A2658@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="poemUeGtc2GQvHuH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020621043555.A2658@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 04:35:55AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: > But when you take network connections, and turn them into simple classes > that only need to be instantiated, you are encapsulating a huge amount > of socket/connection code. That equals bloat, correct? Maybe the > language itself is efficient, but OOP is not. I'm not a big fan of OOP overall, but that encapsulation is, or should be, just simplifying what you have to do anyway, so it should not equal bloat, unless it encourages you to use network connections inappropriately. --=20 Alan Batie ______ www.rdrop.com/users/alan Me alan@batie.org \ / www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A \ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ razor.sourceforge.net NO SPAM! A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -Adlai Stevenson, statesman (1900-1965) --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBPRKs9ov4wNua7QglAQHL0QP9FVZgk7aq1GXsJoKFzrB2iJG3pTLOL0rd QLA6Ni3rSQqS7sTn34wynSxDbiGikjH0jKk9o5fzF+iBF4rilBWzGDzSEx6dXP4M Ope0QJDPCDJ/KvdIczP2pVyKK5nTWTW7PEpYZGwjWM0s4zS5ByfZY77ERnwFANj1 NIzATN5yfek= =/1rR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message