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Date:      Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:56:26 +0200
From:      Bernt Hansson <>
To:        Robert Bonomi <>
Subject:   Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
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2011-07-19 13:57, Robert Bonomi skrev:

> "male bovine excrement" applies.

Only in your jurisdiction.

> Oh my.  making back-ups is unlawful.


> I guarantee you that _I_, as a system administrator, don't need a court
> order to do such things.  And, if you claim otherwise, you better be
> prepared to cite the statues that prohibit it.

You do need a court order. Otherwise you break the law, and the law won.

> This is a corporate environment, it is in the terms of employment that
> company computers are for "business use only", that anything on the
> machines is 'work done for hire', and thus property of the company.
>>>> You may want to look for files that are unusually large.
>>>> They could possibly be ISOs, dvdrips, HD movie dumps...
>>> Not to forget encrypted RAR files (which btw. could contain anything,
>>> including legitimate content, so be careful here).
>> It would be unlawful to try to brute force the files' password ;)
> The last I knew (admittedly a number of years ago), encryption was illegal
> in France, EXCEPT where the encryption key is on file with the Government.
> Many multi-national corporations made sure to route their 'secure' traffic
> _around_ France for that specific reason.
> Find an encrypted file, and demand that the user show that the key is
> on file with the gov't.   *EVIL*GRIN*
>>> Better talk with your users and resolve the problem using
>>> non-technical means. Inventive users WILL always outsmart any
>>> technical solution that you implement: this is a race you absolutely
>>> can't win.
>> Head CP's advice Frank, you can't win this, for real.
> In a _corporate_ environment, it *is* an easily 'winnable' issue.
> It's =not= a technology 'arms race', it is a simple matter of 'personnel
> management' and addressable on that basis.
> This does _not_ mean that 'technology' cannot serve a function in policy
> enforcement -- it simply means that technology, _in_and_of_itself_ is
> not "the solution".

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