From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 23 9:59:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mg-20425418-10.ricochet.net [204.254.18.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19B537BEC9 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01088; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:01:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003231801.KAA01088@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What does "Voxware still supported in 4.0" mean exactly? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:28 MST." <14554.20424.548258.530333@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:01:27 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The following is not venom directed at jkh, or anybody in general--it is an > honest question/statement/opinion: > > Rather than having a user send Cameron Grant a Diamond Fusion Card, or any > other "bleeding edge" or "old 'n' crusty" sound card to play with, shouldn't > FreeBSD, Inc. or Walnut Creek itself be proactively shipping willing > developers like this all the hardware they can purchase? I know that it is > done, has been done, and will continue to be done--it just seems to me like > another appropriate time to spend <= $100US from the profits generated by CD > sales. What makes you think that we haven't? The problem is simply that it's very hard to _buy_ a lot of these cards, and if someone already has one, asking them to send it to Cameron is a lot more effective than wasting a day of my or Bill Swingle's time trying to find the one yak repair shop and soundcard dealer in Outer Mongolia that still has one in stock, finding some way of paying them in goat's cheese and then having Ghengis Khan's last living relative stick the card into his yakskin bag and storm all the way across Europe to deliver it. At last count, I think we've bought, borrowed and cajoled about twenty or so cards and sent them off to Cameron. I don't know what makes you think that we're _entirely_ stupid or greedy, especially since it's not like it's a secret or anything that we do this regularly. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message