From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 02:16:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A4D16A4DD for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6595A43D46 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:16:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so3128740uge for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DAW+ikj8gA5KUDHdT9Mv5NAUVQ0KAvAuRkYLOn+wVC9DKTSli1BKfKNBcqpxMULPDEQsUxYPylJbYD0jFnn41Ip75SQqQyY45kzoaEGzf5XCymz4WjfDH8MerQ0pfDc6lfOVVrLUw0g2Njr4uX4j+U2fAEKwY9fJIp6Ad6ARhfs= Received: by 10.78.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr2765400hue; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:16:38 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060725200328.R17979@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060713181058.56349.qmail@web33309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002101c6af09$aacf32f0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <003301c6afbb$4f1291c0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20060725200328.R17979@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:16:41 -0000 On 7/25/06, User Freebsd wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > Oops, forgot about that. Use 5.x then. The statement is that newer > > versions of FreeBSD are slower than older versions. The point was that > > this isn't relevant to 90% of users for reasons I already cited. > > IMHO, I'm not so concerned about my servers being slower then older > versions, but the fact that, in some cases, we seem to be going backwards > are far as stability is concerned ... > > I've recently been experiencing lock ups with the three servers that I've > upgraded to 6.x ... one of which is <1 year old, the other two are 3 years > old ... after getting everything setup with DDB, to the point that I could > provide some very detailed traces, and core dumps, it looks like the > problem is the one thing common between all three servers: the iir driver > ... the two older machines are running Intel 0CH RAID controllers, the > newer one an ICP Vortex card ... both were rock solid machines under 4.x > ... > > If you check ICP Vortex's web site, you will actually find *vendor > supported* drivers (and CLIs) for both fbsd4 and fbsd5 but nadda for 6 or > 7 ... so, from looking at that, it looks like they have bail'd on the > newer FreeBSDs ... > > So, for me, it isn't a performance issue, its what looks to be a shrinking > hardware vendor support ... > ICP Vortex is an Adaptec company and Adaptec doesn't support FreeBSD. We've already been over this once. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/