From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 14:52:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C968D15DCBFB for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 14:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4448169D for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B36D71804B for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:52:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: sendmail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <84ea27af-6a88-f140-e49e-18fa2e4e3f81@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:52:27 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F4448169D X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.47)[-0.468,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.922,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.48)[0.485,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 14:52:36 -0000 On 2019-06-30 22:04, Albaro Pereyra wrote: > I just wanted to emphasize the importance of security in an MTA. That being said sendmail is archaic and there doesn’t seem to be any milestones to improve it. > I for one, whenever I have to run MTA on FreeBSD machine, use postfix. And this goes for both: listening to localhost only or to external interfaces. Still, I'm OK with whatever MTA ships with the base system. Whatever FreeBSD project team is happier to have integrated, my attitude is: let them do it. Whoever wants things done differently has in the first place compose the system distribution and maintain that securely for several years oneself. I for one do realize I am not able to maintain my own system distribution. So, I refrain from insisting the the system maintainers should have these or those components instead of the ones they decided to have. I invite everybody else to look at it from similar point of view. Valeri > -- > Albaro Pereyra > Software Engineer > Creator of The Internet Ruler > 11561 Haynes St. > N. Hollywood CA, 91606 > +1 (818) 644-1542 > 2AlbaroPereyra@gmail.com > >> On Jun 30, 2019, at 12:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 14:41:43 -0700, Albaro Pereyra wrote: >>> The sendmail repo has not been updated for a really long time according to >>> its wiki article. When will Free-bsd ship with postfix or the ubuntu MTA >>> that is being attacked recently? >> >> The sendmail version included with FreeBSD ist primarily intended for >> inter-program communication, log, and local notification. Users who >> want to run "real mail" systems will probably install Postfix or Exim >> anyway, combined with other services to complete the requirements >> (MTA, MDA, IMAP services etc.). Those will be obtained from the ports >> collection where a recent version is available, and which can be up- >> dated independently from the OS. >> >> Oh, and why should FreeBSD ship with something that is being attacked? :-) >> >> >> -- >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++