From owner-freebsd-bugs Sat Mar 9 23:20: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FD537B416 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A7K1n80762; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1670B37B400 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E45BDC2 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22841 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:15:00 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2A7INh04358; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:18:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 09 Mar 2002 23:18:23 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: misc/35727: man(1) program should not display (old) dates in footers. Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35727 >Category: misc >Synopsis: man(1) program should not display (old) dates in footers. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-bugs >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 09 23:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The man(1) program apparently extracts the ".Dd" date from the page source and displays it in the footer. Sometimes (when .Dd is not used?) the date in the footer is very recent, but very often, the date in the footer is very ancient, giving the (usually!) false impression to new ("potential old") users that the man pages are poorly maintained and tending to encourage the perception that FreeBSD (and other BSD OSes) are ancient and obsolecent. Marketing considerations are important and good for FreeBSD, like it or not. I propose simply removing the dates from the footer. The very few who care what that "document date" is/was may look in the source. Note that many man pages rightfully put similar old dates in a "History" section. Alternatively, and more work, some automated means to insert the man page release date (or even the last modification date -- an actually useful date) could be implemented. I know this is a low probability change-request/wish, but it's long bugged me and I thought I should put it "out there" for consideration. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: ? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message