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Smartctl is reporting 30C and sysctl is showing 40.1C. #! /usr/bin/env bash TP=3D$(/usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada0 | grep Temp | awk -F " " '{pri= ntf "%d",$10}') printf "%s\n\n" "${TP}" TP2=3D$(/sbin/sysctl -a | grep -i hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature | awk '{p= rint substr($2,0,5)}') printf "%s\n\n" "${TP2}" exit Both temperatures are in Celsius. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 4 17:36:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6B910DF5FA for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2018 17:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) Received: from mail.irk.ru (relay2.dsi.ru [195.206.40.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8630F7BCAB for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2018 17:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=irk.ru; s=dkim; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6PHTbXYtywChyrmGl0u1NW8oNcPhSUOvrVIqMjgSNkE=; b=el1p0Ir39Q3Ro9lj6qnqOzIch5 JLgGz/JYAfOu18zPZTHL8Vxc+qRvSOFgSz/bGfqZ4+sS1aps0/S6ilmW5jry3oMcywfEtTpR43TEb SKjjefJugT4eIPykiTbOxPpVx8o9Pipbjsqi+9S/dAnTL1rPirp30iozZKQSpbZnvDR0=; Received: from [194.176.114.54] (helo=[192.168.1.130]) by mail.irk.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gJMId-0009FG-8u for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 01:34:59 +0800 Subject: Re: Different temperature reports To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: thor Message-ID: <1944f5b3-2b4f-df47-4ce4-33186305a32a@irk.ru> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 01:35:57 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8630F7BCAB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.34 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[irk.ru]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: RU(-0.02)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.67)[0.670,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[irk.ru:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[relay1.dsi.ru,relay2.dsi.ru]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[175.40.206.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[irk.ru,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[54.114.176.194.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8345, ipnet:195.206.32.0/19, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2018 17:36:11 -0000 Because these temperatures are measured in different places - in hdd (most possibly on it's controller board but could be inside a mechanics) and somewhere near the processor on the motherboard. Also, the sensors are not so precise. On 11/05/18 01:24, Carmel NY wrote: > Why would sysctl and smartctl report different temperatures? Smartctl is > reporting 30C and sysctl is showing 40.1C. > > #! /usr/bin/env bash > > TP=$(/usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada0 | grep Temp | awk -F " " '{printf "%d",$10}') > > printf "%s\n\n" "${TP}" > > TP2=$(/sbin/sysctl -a | grep -i hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature | awk '{print substr($2,0,5)}') > > printf "%s\n\n" "${TP2}" > > exit > > Both temperatures are in Celsius. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 4 17:43:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D366510DFB42 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2018 17:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A9DA7C177 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2018 17:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from pmbp.fritz.box (p5496E477.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.150.228.119]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFC0943C5701; Sun, 4 Nov 2018 18:36:57 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Different temperature reports From: Philipp Vlassakakis In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 18:36:57 +0100 Cc: carmel_ny@outlook.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1DBD9BE1-B3F4-426D-BAE4-84CAB0EAC2B5@lists.vlassakakis.de> References: To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5A9DA7C177 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.04 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.65)[0.649,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vlassakakis.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[119.228.150.84.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: lists.vlassakakis.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[14.136.13.85.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34788, ipnet:85.13.136.0/24, country:DE]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[outlook.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2018 17:43:04 -0000 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature is usually the sensor of the CPU. See ACPI_THERMAL(4) "For example, each CPU and the enclosure could all be separate thermal = zones, each with its ownsetpoints and cooling devices." Smartctl uses the sensor inside the hard disk. Regards, Philipp > On 4. Nov 2018, at 18:24, Carmel NY wrote: >=20 > Why would sysctl and smartctl report different temperatures? Smartctl = is > reporting 30C and sysctl is showing 40.1C. >=20 > #! /usr/bin/env bash >=20 > TP=3D$(/usr/local/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/ada0 | grep Temp | awk -F " " = '{printf "%d",$10}') >=20 > printf "%s\n\n" "${TP}" >=20 > TP2=3D$(/sbin/sysctl -a | grep -i hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature | = awk '{print substr($2,0,5)}') >=20 > printf "%s\n\n" "${TP2}" >=20 > exit >=20 > Both temperatures are in Celsius. >=20 > --=20 > Carmel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 4 17:43:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108D410DFB9B for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2018 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D405D7C1AB for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2018 17:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id wA4HhCfp006180 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Nov 2018 18:43:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Different temperature reports To: FreeBSD , Carmel NY References: From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <1a957695-bf50-f3c4-27a8-eaf287fb04f9@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 18:43:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D405D7C1AB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.67 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.77)[0.768,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: IT(0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2018 17:43:32 -0000 On 11/4/18 6:24 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > Why would sysctl and smartctl report different temperatures? I guess because one reports the temperature of the Hard Disk and the other that of the MotherBoard. bye av. 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SO you start accessing virtualbox from wine in user space, and then you route WINE like this. Linux userspace-linuxdrivers-bypassing virtualbox and then you have it, you've got the ability to debug windows drivers all day long. then you can for sure write wine compatible drivers. its a similar thing for Macintosh as well. if you want to include a macintosh and android version of wine so we can dev on phones you can do it in android via the android emulator. it should work like this. 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Very true. I've got one machine (a small Zotac box) that reports the CPU temperature as ~14 degrees below the ambient room temperature, which is impossible. -- Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts pointedly. 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How can I tell if "FIPS" is enabled? If it isn't, how do I enable it? 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[146.115.22.46]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e17sm2612769qte.12.2018.11.05.09.21.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Nov 2018 09:21:56 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "David K. Gerry" Subject: Boot halts at trying to mount root Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 12:21:43 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5910D87648 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.04 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.41)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.53), asn: 15169(-1.46), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.38)[0.377,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:21:58 -0000 Greetings, I would have posted this on the forum but the captcha is not screen-reader friendly. I couldn't get registered. I'm upgrading from 11.0 to 11.1. I did installkernel, installworld, mergemaster and rebooted. The kernel loads but when it gets to "trying to mount root ufs:/dev/gpt/HoD_Root [rw]" it stops. There is no error message. I used a rescue thumb drive and fsck the partition and it is clean. I tried booting with the 11.0 kernel with the same results. Does anyone have any suggestions or solutions? I have searched this list's archive and the forum but can't find an issue similar enough for me to solve the problem. With thanks, David Gerry Boston, Massachusetts From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 5 17:22:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248D41106B76 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85A4769B93 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gJiK5-000IO3-LO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 00:05:57 +0700 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 00:05:57 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mtree -X Message-ID: <20181105170557.GA70617@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 85A4769B93 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.04 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[tomsk.ru]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[cached]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.961,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE(0.09)[asn: 20473(0.49), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.994,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:22:47 -0000 Dear Colleagues, What is the actual mtree exclude-file format? I'm trying to exclude /dev from the specification "mtree -p / -c -X /tmp/2", no matter what I put into /tmp/2, the "/dev" directory is still in the specification. I've tried "/dev" and "./dev" and "dev/" and whatever with the same disappointing result: the "/dev" directory is still there. What am I doing wrong? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 5 17:37:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DB21107110 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8EA26A69E for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E864118D2 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/0E864118D2; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Boot halts at trying to mount root To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <6cb388f3-8ab4-c984-4b3e-729ec84f91ef@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:37:19 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B8EA26A69E X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.83 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.746,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.20)[0.196,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.FreeBSD.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: GB(-0.00)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20712, ipnet:2001:8b0::/32, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:37:37 -0000 On 05/11/2018 17:21, David K. Gerry wrote: > I'm upgrading from 11.0 to 11.1. I did installkernel, installworld, > mergemaster and rebooted. The kernel loads but when it gets to "trying > to mount root ufs:/dev/gpt/HoD_Root [rw]" it stops. There is no error > message. Does /dev/gpt/HoD_Root exist after you've booted via your thumb drive? Is the root partition there but under a different label perhaps? What does 'gpart show -l ada0' tell you? (Replace 'ada0' for whatever device name is correct for your boot drive) Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 5 17:40:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B33F1107289 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eduardo.lemosdesa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D4636A9C4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eduardo.lemosdesa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id u18so6753847lff.10 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 09:40:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hx0iI/E6pYi5hRUPRqI+xZFPCOtnU5FH531xyKkCTJM=; b=RRxyLTYLCG2+nln9dOgMNbVRgzMbCOJnNZOJcUW2ywV7Ntb7LLoQ/1MSA46D/EREND NIr+/g8RoWNRO2UqBs5sCGVFtbKXwYEtTLNrInMm04aKbdD3JmX6Uki2qnGDctCQIwBn 2szPE9XafI0kAXFbvUBsTxMw8AiBrhyht+oX4ryQyGD7qQNZUapHyTpYOrl77s45lpB6 eeTDqLkUGQceyr/ZVO+0SdmFhUl4A4OfuJZeHDy4q05I77lP3ayn0DuEz08PRGsg2Sqw rneoRiL+3CVAWZDx0wjCpD8PCirZRkjoItLf6nFMBw6U9yZfVZ7FD3gJKkeURPwuHGs3 d4xQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hx0iI/E6pYi5hRUPRqI+xZFPCOtnU5FH531xyKkCTJM=; b=D94BgXL9wTWFzPq+4jHKpDTgrD5zW9VEDE/q82FiTmyyxTk9gLvIExVeWevhyClXnM 5GHtsKQqVhgoEfi9TgTRz935GDUSReTIw0QhoYMbjx22x0gVypOKBM5qyMNulz1Hlr/H Ng9L/TXTdNDin892aPAobSesSJINeDA+pDe5Xu2CK57XRekB7ikUaQR8KAcxzUyTV0Jl GAht+Q442EJ2LODW9H+GEnGamcVtFwX+2J0UkbE/P5c0zeOaLDYP4kwHOjcytUZKgcSR fV4HIY1k82VWnpbAjMFKIgwjrJmUKtV4kdvZxtbND/iWykuFZo/KCFiR+KXXWM6JVSU/ p+uw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKowRRNfai6wQUkL/6j2iKC3uDbaf/Itl9LxNtcLvpiiIAwD69v qN8do8H30kr8HXa9yH/wkjqsAt9ujXWQOjCoLtFvZg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dNkn9f63HKw+q47YuU2iXVb7bIt946YzUKxvo4dX8S92qOuTboOxiI0aNMXF2gvf5yuDqOtN8orLY3j/AHI4I= X-Received: by 2002:a19:c4cc:: with SMTP id u195mr12667532lff.141.1541439617350; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 09:40:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Eduardo Lemos de Sa Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 15:40:06 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boot halts at trying to mount root To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6D4636A9C4 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.41 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.18), asn: 15169(-1.45), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.67)[-0.669,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:40:20 -0000 Dear David On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:24 PM David K. Gerry wrote: > Greetings, > > I would have posted this on the forum but the captcha is not > screen-reader friendly. I couldn't get registered. > > I'm upgrading from 11.0 to 11.1. I did installkernel, installworl= d, > mergemaster and rebooted. The kernel loads but when it gets to "trying > to mount root ufs:/dev/gpt/HoD_Root [rw]" it stops. There is no error > message. > > I used a rescue thumb drive and fsck the partition and it is > clean. I > tried booting with the 11.0 kernel with the same results. > > Does anyone have any suggestions or solutions? I have searched th= is > list's archive and the forum but can't find an issue similar enough for > me to solve the problem. > > With thanks, > David Gerry > Boston, Massachusetts > > May I suggest you to boot with the older kernel (type 5 and the kernel.old is automatically choose). This will put your system in working state and then, you can try to found where the problem is. My bad experience was when I moved from 11.1 to 11.2: nvidia binary driver is the culprit. I fixed making it using ports. My best wishes Eduardo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 Eduardo Lemos de Sa Professor Titular Dep. 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Yes, that's how I was able to run fsck on the partition. > Is the root partition there but under a different label perhaps? The root partition is correctly labeled I was able to mount it on the thumb drive and verify. > > What does 'gpart show -l ada0' tell you? 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[146.115.22.46]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z31-v6sm31377155qth.67.2018.11.05.10.05.54 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Nov 2018 10:05:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Boot halts at trying to mount root To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: "David K. Gerry" Message-ID: <9c4b0994-9921-0647-0598-afb05cf03dab@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 13:05:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 45CFE6B7ED X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.995,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.43)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.63), asn: 15169(-1.46), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.56)[-0.555,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 18:05:57 -0000 Greetings Eduardo, On 11/5/2018 12:40 PM, Eduardo Lemos de Sa wrote: > May I suggest you to boot with the older kernel (type 5 and the kernel.old > is automatically choose). This will put your system in working state and > then, you can try to found where the problem is. I don't know what kernel type 5 is but I did edit /boot/loader.conf and set kernel="kernel.old" which did boot the 11.0 kernel. However the booting process halted at the same place. > > My bad experience was when I moved from 11.1 to 11.2: nvidia binary driver > is the culprit. I fixed making it using ports. > > My best wishes > > Eduardo David Gerry Boston, Massachusetts From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 5 19:01:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563051109265 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBC966E1BC for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from pmbp.fritz.box (p5496E477.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.150.228.119]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A040143C0319; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:51:13 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: mtree -X From: Philipp Vlassakakis In-Reply-To: <20181105170557.GA70617@admin.sibptus.ru> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:51:12 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <46C7D1B5-E72A-4874-8C00-1DBC320C00AB@lists.vlassakakis.de> References: <20181105170557.GA70617@admin.sibptus.ru> To: Victor Sudakov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CBC966E1BC X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.84 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[119.228.150.84.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vlassakakis.de]; RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[tomsk.ru]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.29)[0.294,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.65)[0.653,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: lists.vlassakakis.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[14.136.13.85.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34788, ipnet:85.13.136.0/24, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 19:01:04 -0000 Hi Victor, ./dev works for me # cat ignore.mtree=20 ./dev then mtree -p / -c -X ignore.mtree > mtree.test Regards, Philipp > On 5. Nov 2018, at 18:05, Victor Sudakov wrote: >=20 > Dear Colleagues,=20 > What is the actual mtree exclude-file format? 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(Replace 'ada0' for whatever gpart show -l ada0 looks normal. what would happen if I ran gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/boot0 Will I lose access to the files? The rescue disk is running 9.1. I can use the boot0 from FBSD 11.1 but gpart is going to be 9.1. The disk partitions were originally created with this rescue/instal disk. David Gerry Boston, Massachusetts > device name is correct for your boot drive) > > Cheers, > > Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 00:27:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDE3112120B for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 00:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.k.gerry@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96AAF7D822 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 00:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.k.gerry@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id p35so798341qtc.4 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 16:27:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qWFYSNgUfMObWNZVnoOvii02tDuOJORqKBPKrmS4dY0=; b=GV4FJ1mf5YQHZGa2sDh1gJ76nZ5Y/qxmRVqScAy666kib58Hi19pCawCLpEPO1QVjc moTg08Ee9CyftEAEe8UWMOehdstWV7Jj1tvvxZzscHYlN3kxU/VQUdQdGss0lFEnojKy rm5cplCBAbH4m7WXjQ8zv3cMV93w30rl4rKp8SxmwIUrobQyGRlIHs6tacbxJh3d/yO5 Vl8tO/UGnzi2lg2kSHi2pKLM9nBAicMy9UzEI6avPMfdS3LlXNFziiweDcfuj5bSj4BZ gAQ/2QX0SguQuDGDDTxVQDTjFuCw/KL9z/24ouz5pLBaAPXOkCF9igml0a0h4jir838j Yd3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qWFYSNgUfMObWNZVnoOvii02tDuOJORqKBPKrmS4dY0=; b=gTguOf28W2fdcWMS4aAINmDioYrTqOcNCa/21gy8sCKqgPKgnOpKDcPdCEiwoZGeAJ uiu3KlupIdvm2XytctEWPLgBv/vHHj4Du/+PRxwwcB54KG6Y5cfGTcF+iX4Cv/evbXRI r61+W6YKhuDfIwVON2L7bGW2p57u0qEdmrRTlHZzUSJh0gy/FqnBtta9SEt5cfSUOmce BVbVQoSaKDh/KplfBy9b7FH21XrX2cWMvh2T7rlJYL990wxnd7qVd7hvCb2vtmPt4DTV oUsoK4YtIsq7J00NRp/6YRvFnQChdEkyIxa0IKPPacjS+pqBgsswZNpi+HMUEGY+Ot8P zTEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gI/GJFRAR6BRTN18T0Vc5rjVyQcfMqaM+X8zXS7/KJouJacj6Xm 4I+lL/Dr2xKonkpSgMgJuvwrfnGa X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fksqhf4scByHRffICgYqnsawn92b7PSXJ88l0cnsQwYypB76sOUGk20y22YFS/aMAYL07jGw== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:1bda:: with SMTP id m26mr23721535qtk.239.1541464040042; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 16:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.9.3] (146-115-22-46.s158.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.static.cable.rcncustomer.com. [146.115.22.46]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id w81-v6sm32915512qka.87.2018.11.05.16.27.19 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Nov 2018 16:27:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Boot halts at trying to mount root To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6cb388f3-8ab4-c984-4b3e-729ec84f91ef@FreeBSD.org> From: "David K. Gerry" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 19:27:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 96AAF7D822 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.21 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.79)[-0.789,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.42)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.69), asn: 15169(-1.35), country: US(-0.07)]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 00:27:21 -0000 I don't have the option to enter the partition information. The system just stops and the keyboard does nothing. If the system is going into multi-user mode instead of single-user mode I do see it trying to initialize the network interface with re0 link state down re0 link state up and I can see on the router the network interface is connected and its aliases. David Gerry Boston, Massachusetts On 11/5/2018 7:08 PM, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > I have this problem too. When boot fails, entering ufs:/dev/da0p3 works > as expected. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 01:06:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADC71121D3D for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 01:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (static-50-125-237-106.rdmd.wa.frontiernet.net [50.125.237.106]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29D767E9F5 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 01:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [192.168.23.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wA608p4V065644 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 5 Nov 2018 16:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 16:08:49 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@btw.pki2.com To: "David K. Gerry" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot halts at trying to mount root In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <6cb388f3-8ab4-c984-4b3e-729ec84f91ef@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: wA608p4V065644 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 29D767E9F5 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.23 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.71)[-0.711,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.85)[-0.846,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[btw.pki2.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.65)[-0.651,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.07)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5650, ipnet:50.120.0.0/13, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[pki2.com : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 01:06:48 -0000 I have this problem too. When boot fails, entering ufs:/dev/da0p3 works as expected. On Mon, 5 Nov 2018, David K. Gerry wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > On 11/5/2018 12:37 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >> What does 'gpart show -l ada0' tell you? (Replace 'ada0' for whatever > > gpart show -l ada0 looks normal. > what would happen if I ran > gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/boot0 > Will I lose access to the files? > The rescue disk is running 9.1. I can use the boot0 from FBSD 11.1 but > gpart is going to be 9.1. The disk partitions were originally created > with this rescue/instal disk. > > David Gerry > Boston, Massachusetts > >> device name is correct for your boot drive) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 02:49:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A7D112BA9D for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 02:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0535186E74 for ; 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Correct. Check "man mtree" for the -X option: If the pattern contains a `/' character, it will be matched against entire pathnames (relative to the starting directory); otherwise, it will be matched against basenames only. Also see "man 3 fnmatch" which discusses the specific interpretation of "/" and "*" which applies to the exclude list. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(ml-ktk@netlabs.org@114.124.196.251) by 0 with ESMTPA; 6 Nov 2018 09:24:19 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Adrian Gschwend Subject: PPP & LTE card: How to access AT commands once interface is up? Message-ID: <5841fdd7-da51-6e18-fc11-d033f68d3d2a@netlabs.org> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:24:14 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9E7AF6E7FB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.86 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.80)[0.801,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netlabs.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.netlabs.org,mail.opencsw.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.62)[0.623,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.45.238.213.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.55)[0.551,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9211, ipnet:213.238.32.0/20, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 09:31:45 -0000 (I've asked this question on the OPNsense board first, see https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=9828.0) I've set up a PC engines based GW which is running an LTE connection as WAN interface. So far everything works fine, connection is up and seems stable so far. Due to my location and frequency bands used here in Asia, I got a Sierra Wireless MC7430 mPCIe card. Specs: https://source.sierrawireless.com/~/media/support_downloads/airprime/74xx/4116237_airprime_mc7430_product_technical_specification_r8.ashx AT command reference: https://www.sierrawireless.com/resources/documents/mp/2130309_mp7xx_at_command_reference.pdf The card works fine, however as soon as OPNsense takes care of the ppp connection via MPD I cannot send any other AT commands to the card. What I would like to have is some kind of "stats" interface where I can get things back like LTE network configuration, frequencies used, signal level etc. For my card the AT interface is on /dev/cuaU0.2, all other interfaces do not return anything on AT commands. And /dev/cuaU0.2 is busy as soon as the connection is up. Anyone has an idea how to do that for this particular card? thanks regards Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 11:28:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93CC111013D for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31998724EE for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gJzWv-000O0V-VV; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:28:21 +0700 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:28:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Cc: Philipp Vlassakakis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mtree -X Message-ID: <20181106112821.GB90861@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20181105170557.GA70617@admin.sibptus.ru> <46C7D1B5-E72A-4874-8C00-1DBC320C00AB@lists.vlassakakis.de> <20181106024857.GA76231@admin.sibptus.ru> <20181106065003.c1081c64.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181106065003.c1081c64.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 31998724EE X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.64 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[tomsk.ru]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.90)[0.901,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.960,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.69)[0.691,0]; IP_SCORE(0.09)[asn: 20473(0.51), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:28:38 -0000 Polytropon wrote: >On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 09:48:57 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> Philipp Vlassakakis wrote: >> > >> >./dev works for me >> > >> ># cat ignore.mtree >> >./dev >> > >> >then mtree -p / -c -X ignore.mtree > mtree.test >> >> Thanks, Philipp, it looks like a directory should start with a "./" and have no >> trailing slash to be ignored. > >Correct. Check "man mtree" for the -X option: > > If the pattern contains a `/' character, it will be > matched against entire pathnames (relative to the > starting directory); So, even if "-p /" is an absolute path, the exclude-file must contain a relative path? A bit contra-intuitive, but I can live with that. > otherwise, it will be matched > against basenames only. > >Also see "man 3 fnmatch" which discusses the specific >interpretation of "/" and "*" which applies to the >exclude list. Beats me. Can you perhaps quote the relevant part? I still don't understand why "./dev/" and "dev/" do not exclude /dev -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 13:51:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790121124327 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe31.google.com (mail-vs1-xe31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5850577228 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe31.google.com with SMTP id 124so7282609vsp.12 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 05:51:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zveWuo9wCmzH0YqAjJnLYtbiMR4dKEiGIioXDkeTy68=; b=Ywcq1q1HO1y4LLNMTaMZD4VfoHhbSxhUbRDPAtX+w3NyQtnwH19+X25ai/QLb2N2D2 eIJZVOMcN/LiDxr0OZa5G/H21UlGAKVsUTesPCeKhpKYUPh34kOnZCTNRN4c0P6cjCXt bp9HmdiXhMRgHf6g7/lr0fZS7vYoNLu20mum66KCSSIwGuCUPh5OpAVz+Xci2cUzQEwh wEZd0qOT2sPameXXBcXhxBqKv2+T0jFEq23KjO1kuOB+2J6fP6uHLj5ign0AAu2wtUWb 2dqrWTuTZC4xTXLkOYT65iIwsacXhaz5LEHbC4vDVhq/Sl2EkIAl3Jp42hN+zRGyDJt2 K3fQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zveWuo9wCmzH0YqAjJnLYtbiMR4dKEiGIioXDkeTy68=; b=jXtWE1fAG1SIQ5FHWm7ffFJdPYNhTzqsPwu5xOQZn/RBTQw8B6iAv47aVubRoeD0AB Y3vS18R3zTTj9c7b1c+flSehvheqp2GQsUCvr2Qk/0Nri/S9r8Hva46lo4si4klf6SDE IKscSx9j7mT8APVN+ywez+D4+k7vnVxf44zKOGTRE7r7fj50CXR3P6vsBtOf51xQh7Me WXxPP3WN5pXluUEIgc7iwhNPnmTw2Vw9a7cGoZCpPJ92ppvGBm24hRACjpSa10mScMI2 eDzfNYKywD5HSCS/UExoTQdIUkXAuIQ3EsEMZC/vb7lLupM+Hh0AubsUaJRl4ZPG1bQA vaMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLup+QLb2rj1KdUVlMh6y3HlCr8uM7pcK4Qi3DhAT4STZCnGEwl NwC6IPo/pcEa4GY7oDcVVb4bPRIiPlvva0bT8Kvuhxd3c6k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fQ4P+W+OBuxpmfkhxO9T+JK7S1HkFRrXtsAw8/gVskbrzqkd2NGb8TYNJvsbZpII8wNx0PkZL/cTJWC+9I9IY= X-Received: by 2002:a67:a983:: with SMTP id m3mr10273646vsh.19.1541512266587; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 05:51:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:50:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: ZFS re attaching failed device to pool To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5850577228 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.53 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.81)[-0.813,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.723,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.54)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.21), asn: 15169(-1.42), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 13:51:08 -0000 Dear Beasties, I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put it in a UNAVAIL status. I shut down the server and took it apart, cleaned it and removed a third device that was on Sata Port C which I think may have been the culprit of the bus fault. This third disk was unrelated to the pool and was an older disk which just had some backup data and was running on an old enclosure with the SATA wires hanging out, etc. you know, those 5 minute hacks that you forget about.. After rebooting, the BIOS saw the failed device and the system booted fine. I ran a smartctl long test on the failed device which took like 7 hours and the report shows no errors and the device is like new. So now I want to tell ZFS to re-attach the device but the documentation is not too clear about this. All the docs, and example I find is physically replacing with another device, not the same one. My question is almost identical to this one which has not been answered either: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/re-attaching-failed-device-to-pool.66027/ So: can I re-attach by running the replace command on the SAME device? I haven't tried it, but from the question above it seems that it won't let me. Besides I don't want to screw up so if anyone has done this before pls. advise how to proceed in these cases. TIA! -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 13:53:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB6B112466B for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe35.google.com (mail-vs1-xe35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66F49777F5 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe35.google.com with SMTP id 124so7287432vsp.12 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 05:53:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=s+lvvQlrBQ9SI6QHwgtJB8YVv5FJtHQ1WIYt03YL290=; b=k82dR7NoUG8lJvYD44gJEcCX8XsRYTQe9ua8STAzAfVqIE0TL+wCxzhVfInM7b5rZg oLwEY8MZvzuOzzH7j1W/Z7NRZwCAUn0kOeKsY+tCi0k2epgnak+bYC9HA6I994b3LUN8 rBmSSwXgUyK8Fl+ffpLkUkn+YPBTAI+nOZLojPy1P49g7AHL/I7Z3S+103fe/sZZ/UkT i+TqTsvJtPM3Nb0Myc9CUFm31PCpUSH3ZSXKgEb3wOcYwqeE9YrwW8bJSOn+DTDVmxK3 C7FlFRpPhJotlcCmBD4E2UlTyv+c3+ffssuA693TXJEVhPGAhHf4Nn7WXONywSUCXgjo UI6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=s+lvvQlrBQ9SI6QHwgtJB8YVv5FJtHQ1WIYt03YL290=; b=T6r+DAGLu/5mLmE2JZtDlhO+14FiiwcSVLxFOUqTHHNAC1JYdVD5GfLCYE9bc3j2Y5 jBp+HP/gQ1ND8RF0EF0jf3wv5zoV8oqVJozmedzhLkZljr7KB69csp38AmOx7bd8yvfr ZZsLThOmM581SGvOJB6+zI3AVtVHH+V4HbHpPodSYW+R47fgFTUJYsgbDvaOP7tl9oXZ Cql90iqw2gdz404V9MFsk+ldanWE1x01okCY8YklmrAGTscQl21fDV4fZZUaDGaH0Oz+ BBqdkNGyr5HDAnekbtyrzQ86Gm8bdZ3naoCuFXewI1IqDfOwFMV6jDGqE5bQ2ZerRQzy KuVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJwolQgJRitqIqQ4NfSpX9fhMY10BL27qTM+6jqqt1gatafmOKc iomxizYJ2+XOpQ0xkNFOI37n08ucnlRru7PqibPmAJxLJMw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5er+D/uXbBxtDTuS4dtxqSRwNPoi36KHPQrMgdVAws4iao4fWowy5gQ+oBfBeH3V2s3/V2J7p1UmpUraiUxTJM= X-Received: by 2002:a67:e28a:: with SMTP id g10mr11186410vsf.178.1541512416724; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 05:53:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:53:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS re attaching failed device to pool To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 66F49777F5 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.21 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.82)[-0.816,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.44)[-0.444,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.54)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.22), asn: 15169(-1.42), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 13:53:38 -0000 On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:50 AM Alejandro Imass wrote: > Dear Beasties, > > I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put it in > a UNAVAIL status. I shut down the server and took it apart, cleaned it and > removed a third device that was on Sata Port C which I think may have been > the culprit of the bus fault. This third disk was unrelated to the pool and > was an older disk which just had some backup data and was running on an old > enclosure with the SATA wires hanging out, etc. you know, those 5 minute > hacks that you forget about.. > > After rebooting, the BIOS saw the failed device and the system booted > fine. I ran a smartctl long test on the failed device which took like 7 > hours and the report shows no errors and the device is like new. > > So now I want to tell ZFS to re-attach the device but the documentation is > not too clear about this. All the docs, and example I find is physically > replacing with another device, not the same one. > > My question is almost identical to this one which has not been answered > either: > > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/re-attaching-failed-device-to-pool.66027/ > > So: can I re-attach by running the replace command on the SAME device? I > haven't tried it, but from the question above it seems that it won't let > me. Besides I don't want to screw up so if anyone has done this before pls. > advise how to proceed in these cases. > > TIA! > -- > Alex > > > I forgot to mention I ran zpool clear zroot and it ran the scrub but did not put the disk back ONLINE. Here is the result: root@poseidon:~ # zpool status -v pool: zroot state: DEGRADED status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing or invalid. Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue functioning in a degraded state. action: Replace the device using 'zpool replace'. see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-4J scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h8m with 0 errors on Tue Nov 6 05:27:20 2018 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot DEGRADED 0 0 0 mirror-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 5540674508897617692 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2 diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors Again, TIA for any pointers on how to re-attach the failed disk. -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 14:05:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D578F1124C03 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07D5C77FE2 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from [172.29.0.93] (unknown [193.169.77.230]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C642D43C1DFE; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 15:05:02 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: ZFS re attaching failed device to pool From: Philipp Vlassakakis X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16B92) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 15:05:02 +0100 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4C7379FD-8646-4246-9CD0-AC3B281B32C9@lists.vlassakakis.de> References: To: Alejandro Imass X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 07D5C77FE2 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.30 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.29)[-0.294,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.06)[0.063,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vlassakakis.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: lists.vlassakakis.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[14.136.13.85.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.14)[0.141,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34788, ipnet:85.13.136.0/24, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 14:05:06 -0000 Hi Alex, Did you try =E2=80=9Ezpool online zroot NAME-OF-DEGRADED-DISK=E2=80=9C and =E2= =80=9Ezpool zroot clear=E2=80=9C ? Regards, Philipp > On 6. Nov 2018, at 14:53, Alejandro Imass wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:50 AM Alejandro Imass wrot= e: >>=20 >> Dear Beasties, >>=20 >> I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put it i= n >> a UNAVAIL status. I shut down the server and took it apart, cleaned it an= d >> removed a third device that was on Sata Port C which I think may have bee= n >> the culprit of the bus fault. This third disk was unrelated to the pool a= nd >> was an older disk which just had some backup data and was running on an o= ld >> enclosure with the SATA wires hanging out, etc. you know, those 5 minute >> hacks that you forget about.. >>=20 >> After rebooting, the BIOS saw the failed device and the system booted >> fine. I ran a smartctl long test on the failed device which took like 7 >> hours and the report shows no errors and the device is like new. >>=20 >> So now I want to tell ZFS to re-attach the device but the documentation i= s >> not too clear about this. All the docs, and example I find is physically >> replacing with another device, not the same one. >>=20 >> My question is almost identical to this one which has not been answered >> either: >>=20 >>=20 >> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/re-attaching-failed-device-to-pool.660= 27/ >>=20 >> So: can I re-attach by running the replace command on the SAME device? I >> haven't tried it, but from the question above it seems that it won't let >> me. Besides I don't want to screw up so if anyone has done this before pl= s. >> advise how to proceed in these cases. >>=20 >> TIA! >> -- >> Alex >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 > I forgot to mention I ran zpool clear zroot and it ran the scrub but did > not put the disk back ONLINE. Here is the result: >=20 > root@poseidon:~ # zpool status -v > pool: zroot > state: DEGRADED > status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing= > or > invalid. Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue > functioning in a degraded state. > action: Replace the device using 'zpool replace'. > see: http://illumos.org/msg/ZFS-8000-4J > scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h8m with 0 errors on Tue Nov 6 05:27:20 2018 > config: >=20 > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot DEGRADED 0 0 0 > mirror-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 > 5540674508897617692 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was > /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2 > diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 >=20 > errors: No known data errors >=20 > Again, TIA for any pointers on how to re-attach the failed disk. >=20 > --=20 > Alex > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 15:09:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0E71126FD7 for ; 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We have found your email address through our own efforts on the web search and not through any illegal way [image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 16:02:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE211128597 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: from mail-qt1-x829.google.com (mail-qt1-x829.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::829]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1857E7D8B5 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: by mail-qt1-x829.google.com with SMTP id r14so3157105qtp.1 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 08:02:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=heTLuZowG3FaC5ZcX1o0UHN0Ezd1wS6la3CCG9ShGaw=; b=Yy5bH2JmneFXVZbwR9zzUNhYVK6+r1Ksd7t8xl9Zfu0+nDztQX95y9qhpYbobu3mF8 3ihPrXUDA38aCL8bpWDZhrAOkNcj3YsLsWCeQkuFM8+HzRwk0Us1l3M4lUfa3suM6pXR nY6eS9zj0FmBngdBQsA7NfwTP/NRMlFNyQFL55AUDVTQs6vyZUyBTMDYAK/bTfs7LQN7 fRSvyrn2QGanP1/pGg7SPAXbEIetMMKdXDB76IizGCXj6byOCS4sCZwcxNv/GCOAE9Sv wUjARWpfua9gAOfxKqFO4oMVLAgRym8hBqHxxcuyVGAVWW0Ut1YZl3adtTEnaxbSnExs 8eFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=heTLuZowG3FaC5ZcX1o0UHN0Ezd1wS6la3CCG9ShGaw=; b=Iy3hN1wAM/fKYkcz1HZA1C8o05UkwGc0dh4ahILRarPGQ7S+789YvSIrs/YB0d7EhH z7X/hdqqYr6ZMb8T9kVq/64FRS7YDSoUj5zTpqDEnpF/xMVHYbr2G58oDfGyistMjnlW ZXg6oJpXWrmzdN82HfMoe4HI4mKau5aDxdipWWgZIGudaOUJoOapZ8ixChz2yIFrS9LT 0R8VzFUE2u1HedSB3lORcotbvmO1F2jGq+YJYaWgwUWOmc3kM1wwCjPQfnsTJgbiVu8w I1dQu9p1uYjjQBt6QNZiFlRYIyt+Uge+5vOofle3JKh91su3OE8BMPJWJ9osgAFFm19M hgbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLx75el8mwS9QArUkVbbg2Y8+KYtLJ2D7nP2SdUx9IadCBNs2ci ukKlaZGbJrLE9IXBwhZCdpQLr6LRppoRWt+51daVmiFAHbA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cgfkbhtEjGpdg/eeL+NFDIuUxhHtjiTMSxArntjiOL9cyuyuWo/THfQfoc5r9ULHZf0jdfRrfX3zDxMCsDuDc= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:ec50:: with SMTP id n16mr27027945qvq.105.1541520134487; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 08:02:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a0c:9dd2:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:01:54 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?B?QXJhbSBIxIN2xINybmVhbnU=?= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 17:01:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1857E7D8B5 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.850,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.822,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mgk.ro]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.48)[-0.477,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.53)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.18), asn: 15169(-1.37), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 16:02:17 -0000 Hello, The FreeBSD handbook claims that freebsd-update(8) will leave custom kernels alone, and that if using a custom kernel it will update /boot/GENERIC to the release kernel if it exists. It also hints that it uses this /boot/GENERIC for upgrades between releases, allowing you to install your custom kernel post-upgrade after you will have rebuilt it. This is not what's happening at all, instead freebsd-update(8) is trashing custom kernels without warning. There have been several threads about this on the mailing list. The only conclusion I have been able to draw from them is that the handbook is out of date. Apparently the current, undocumented behavior dates back at least six years. So, is it possible to track -RELEASE using freebsd-update(8) and still use custom kernels? Of course I can remove "kernel" from "Components" in freebsd-update.conf and then freebsd-update(8) won't overwrite my kernel, but I would imagine I won't be able to upgrade between releases that way, since freebsd-update(8) will not provide an intermediary newer n+1 GENERIC kernel to boot the new n+1 release. What's the solution here? Is there one? Thanks, --=20 Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 16:24:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ACE1128F1B for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) Received: from relay-b01.edpnet.be (relay-b01.edpnet.be [212.71.1.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "edpnet.email", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CDC57E55F for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@perdition.city) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1541521482-0a7ff512e23029c80001-jLrpzn Received: from mordor.lan (213.219.147.224.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.147.224]) by relay-b01.edpnet.be with ESMTP id sLAkGkxpcoLVd05w (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:24:43 +0100 (CET) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: julien@perdition.city X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 213.219.147.224.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[213.219.147.224] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 213.219.147.224 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:08:18 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Aram =?utf-8?B?SMSDdsSDcm5lYW51?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels Message-ID: <20181106170818.GD88460@mordor.lan> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="osDK9TLjxFScVI/L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-Barracuda-Connect: 213.219.147.224.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net[213.219.147.224] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1541521482 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 X-Barracuda-URL: https://212.71.1.221:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at edpnet.be X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1949 X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.5522 1.0000 0.7500 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.75 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.75 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=7.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.61314 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9CDC57E55F X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.49 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.63)[-0.633,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.51)[-0.512,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[smtp.bebif.be]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.02)[-0.023,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[221.1.71.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_SENDERSCORE(2.00)[221.1.71.212.bl.score.senderscore.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9031, ipnet:212.71.0.0/19, country:BE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: BE(-0.05)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[224.147.219.213.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 16:24:56 -0000 --osDK9TLjxFScVI/L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 05:01:54PM +0100, Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu wrote: > Hello, >=20 > The FreeBSD handbook claims that freebsd-update(8) will leave custom > kernels alone, and that if using a custom kernel it will update > /boot/GENERIC to the release kernel if it exists. It also hints > that it uses this /boot/GENERIC for upgrades between releases, > allowing you to install your custom kernel post-upgrade after you > will have rebuilt it. >=20 > This is not what's happening at all, instead freebsd-update(8) is > trashing custom kernels without warning. There have been several > threads about this on the mailing list. The only conclusion I have > been able to draw from them is that the handbook is out of date. > Apparently the current, undocumented behavior dates back at least > six years. >=20 > So, is it possible to track -RELEASE using freebsd-update(8) and > still use custom kernels? Of course I can remove "kernel" from > "Components" in freebsd-update.conf and then freebsd-update(8) won't > overwrite my kernel, but I would imagine I won't be able to upgrade > between releases that way, since freebsd-update(8) will not provide > an intermediary newer n+1 GENERIC kernel to boot the new n+1 release. >=20 > What's the solution here? Is there one? I usually use: $> freebsd-update fetch $> freebsd-update install $> make kernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL $> reboot >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > --=20 > Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Mulder" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-d469da0c Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:26:14 +0100 Subject: NFS server stalls on low memory X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2A2408177C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.20 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sjmulder.nl,messagingengine.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.123.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sjmulder.nl]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sjmulder.nl:+,messagingengine.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.856,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[25.123.147.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.75)[asn: 11403(-3.67), country: US(-0.08)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:26:26 -0000 Hi, When I write a large amount of data (>RAM) to a slow disk attached to my FreeBSD 11.2-p3 NFS server all I/O to the disk (even local) is stalled for minutes at a time until the paging daemon makes a pass. When writing such a large file locally, memory pressure also occurs but the paging daemon keeps scanning and freeing continuously. vmstat -w1 output of both such an NFS transfer and a local write below. What's going on here? 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Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels To: Julien Cigar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E20458195F X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.64 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.971,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.963,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mgk.ro]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.852,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.55)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.26), asn: 15169(-1.40), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:28:44 -0000 > I usually use: > $> freebsd-update fetch > $> freebsd-update install > $> make kernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL > $> reboot That works for installing updates to the same release, but I don't see how it would work for upgrading to a new release (freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade). You need to boot up the new kernel before installing the new binaries. Indeed, freebsd-update does a two stage process. --=20 Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 18:16:53 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A5E112C541 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa31.google.com (mail-vk1-xa31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 778FC84A9C for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vk1-xa31.google.com with SMTP id h128so3095502vkg.11 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:16:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rvBdTjdOUsSE7KvMkpmYemM4HnK5ruEznmRxJ8DLM24=; b=H/6yVkRdLygeA74+3uWbBNhc0EzKIxRuOCa98qowzpqjOZSMhhjFNBLXHaEXYlyHrF a70iFJ7m/xCHppsIr+sp8gaQT6jmshsozbkqD5IYMs/ImCwkRqlwwrQ6ZZJ53GFKH3IW RfaTtlCt4df7Bn409TJmd/te9AK8lIpRzKkIUThC13ySjJrXlV4LGZENitbr66WDhngt g9+KHN3dbazlaL3856YkWzZugbr+bx2h6JHQGHjKRKvhzNyOiT2QmOimxWq3OKigVPBZ yjKSZtByPGtiwXcX799Xh+3nalRZBzC7p+7DF/AVwbn3O3krpO44Hr49l4AAHcrGW0dQ 9c9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rvBdTjdOUsSE7KvMkpmYemM4HnK5ruEznmRxJ8DLM24=; b=YhXSU85DpX+ePbZzYG7ay6yjAbNI/vbSyS2jsJ7UiJiTn7tMLXJxR+AgmSwKOwjgIp WMhnoTmygRDu9qUrCNDrDfh53+jVn1asWtnT3QIdOIo9SKZpnXYh1nl2Zyycwnt22GRz tEEs39wnkEU9HP6rImWT7McznpcoI6Q1n3ReUQzmd1lGksA49JxRl8nG2BB7VDUxX+OV nzVG8aIXrKffem/ZCDGTf8yQT8iGCYOJiYObfwBiST+gXacjmGVY5KodT8I/HrWWBaMO H74KdkN0VSyLXi2USjVM0VzaYM+fn9ajudqEcokQq/G1Tfm41S29edmqWAvbirgkyYdW xXUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLhCvuVOURjUkDtMrm29vozZG/sNPufB5VXzajROAyYA10b8YsN frvxzc/vKS9ZX/kWpp/NydVksr4aq5YjjzVgSZhxP9FLPeU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5f4g+3CFC+Muj8zmc3xOUHUgEpCrKaL4Uczab7WOXqeq+47hr8G1xJHdr/rggfyhYiQ0/RCPYGl2guuFG8Tte0= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:60c9:: with SMTP id u192mr2989743vkb.36.1541528210884; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:16:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4C7379FD-8646-4246-9CD0-AC3B281B32C9@lists.vlassakakis.de> In-Reply-To: <4C7379FD-8646-4246-9CD0-AC3B281B32C9@lists.vlassakakis.de> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:16:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS re attaching failed device to pool To: freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 778FC84A9C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.26 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.965,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.a.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.25)[-0.254,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.56)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.29), asn: 15169(-1.41), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:16:53 -0000 On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:05 AM Philipp Vlassakakis < freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Did you try =E2=80=9Ezpool online zroot NAME-OF-DEGRADED-DISK=E2=80=9C an= d =E2=80=9Ezpool zroot > clear=E2=80=9C ? > > Regards, > Philipp > Hey Phillip, thanks for the suggestion. I just tried it and it says: Device xxx onlined but remains in faulted state And the "Action"suggests to run replace. Then I tried clear and waited for the scrub to finish bu the device still says UNAVAIL. So I went ahead and RTFM again and did "detach" and the "add"like the handbook suggests. Now the pool says ONLINE. BUT, why is the first disk labeled as "p3" and not the second one??? # zpool status -v pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h6m with 0 errors on Tue Nov 6 07:24:56 2018 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2 ONLINE 0 0 0 # zpool history History for 'zroot': 2017-06-30.21:38:33 zpool create -o altroot=3D/mnt -O compress=3Dlz4 -O atime=3Doff -m none -f zroot mirror ada0p3 ada1p3 2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3Dnone zroot/ROOT 2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/ zroot/ROOT/default 2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/tmp -o exec=3Don -o setuid= =3Doff zroot/tmp 2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/usr -o canmount=3Doff zroot= /usr 2017-06-30.21:38:33 zfs create zroot/usr/home 2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o setuid=3Doff zroot/usr/ports 2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create zroot/usr/src 2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o mountpoint=3D/var -o canmount=3Doff zroot= /var 2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o exec=3Doff -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/audi= t 2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o exec=3Doff -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/cras= h 2017-06-30.21:38:34 zfs create -o exec=3Doff -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/log 2017-06-30.21:38:35 zfs create -o atime=3Don zroot/var/mail 2017-06-30.21:38:35 zfs create -o setuid=3Doff zroot/var/tmp 2017-06-30.21:38:35 zfs set mountpoint=3D/zroot zroot 2017-06-30.21:38:35 zpool set bootfs=3Dzroot/ROOT/default zroot 2017-06-30.21:38:35 zpool export zroot 2017-06-30.21:38:37 zpool import -o altroot=3D/mnt zroot 2017-06-30.21:38:42 zpool set cachefile=3D/mnt/boot/zfs/zpool.cache zroot 2018-11-06.05:18:34 zpool clear zroot 2018-11-06.07:13:34 zpool online zroot /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2 2018-11-06.07:18:01 zpool clear zroot 2018-11-06.07:35:55 zpool detach zroot /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2 2018-11-06.07:36:24 zpool add zroot /dev/diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2 > > On 6. Nov 2018, at 14:53, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:50 AM Alejandro Imass > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Beasties, > >> > >> I have a simple 2 disk pool and one disk started failing and zfs put i= t > in > > [...] > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 18:20:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEF4112C754 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe32.google.com (mail-vs1-xe32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A9B884C22 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe32.google.com with SMTP id v205so7897335vsc.3 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:20:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bx7Md++puRhTJPx6cLqCGaKw85iaQugy/EsK3hStVxk=; b=D1hTd0h392UmnAN/1Z+6DUqyBs0vWFhreNGfq1CzMO8yMi4JHC444Ar29sA4UXsNk5 SoZ/k8NyLKLHp13IV62qZtCCLXtLEVfnc9bjr3L8F1j1m7zLjfYaxnGhiloo7XkmSgua uYZEhtj2G8tO3+thDw4igjgnD815X5MflYGCnt4L0wuaRRWtgDKvKrBPxNF0GHl0gmCd mCbiW9+GUl7FM+moumkg1JggRAIu1y711BT4W8Iw9Egy+jT9H6qXMoX2pL5Ptgkimmi5 qikkHq8ABokA/1Fc5C0b2lqMLIk3/76hYq3sA73UydDgf8kkG9tnLllYOJgZ76gexWzc t94g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bx7Md++puRhTJPx6cLqCGaKw85iaQugy/EsK3hStVxk=; b=Ofu8muqtYe77bI4zlUiwqUyfBbG/w1uHIwEBk6qx1YkoK+jGWrqVV7IivG6GOiCYR6 cbpNbfZk9G6hoLMtj6Y/UIjhwn2YkUAr1TcFtqyEV+3ZUkSOdMDmqSVqQ4Io+Ck/eOjy x1yr6nBrfN42gbrU92WZLfoZzihWwbDJm26RyL2gLAMuF14Vwig3tS0GmD5Jo184fddW dV260i5YqLhWoe58Vt5J6wmypGTP+5GKI8VwaHW27gb8aj2NGFAJ6rTyz8X1sniGo4ft AtmQ1QC0fsZqF+sW3bGTe1HT2NbHo2pTSwSar2++tt+DmDyiQHOL4zQ7Lk0OtRLnnCr8 ZD0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLjBuUMHTXcD7oPhBLKbnjyHLs9lobtDasBDwlopWAvkZ6WsVzz gB78P4KwZ//GXdlE2Z3J6GhgqlEm+mSnLyDXDLpURAlB X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eI1rih5GCK2tWgUpDETJIRT1Zdh+VhviAadpbTy53N3iTpdXIm5/unCZTAlQTt2UOlAIAM9SpTYgD2bHS1Cfs= X-Received: by 2002:a67:a983:: with SMTP id m3mr10695404vsh.19.1541528428951; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:20:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181106160600.GA16406@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20181106160600.GA16406@neutralgood.org> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:20:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS re attaching failed device to pool To: "Kevin P. 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Neal wrote: [...] > For a simple mirror, if you can handle the risk, you can detach the > unavailable disk and then reattach it. Once the mirror has been dropped > down to a single disk (ie, not a mirror anymore) then you can _attach_ the > disk that was part of the mirror before. Just make sure you "attach" it, > don't use any other verbs. > > Damn it. Your email came a few minutes too late. See my previous post I did detach and "add" not attach. Can I still do it? is there any way to just leave the array as it was? Also, what is p3? Pls. take a look at my previous post where I print out the current status after detach and add and the complete history of the pool. Thanks!! -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 18:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B9D112D1FF for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A7F985DE2 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1541529760; x=1544121760; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=gEs83dWO0SJYg2TbIreZLNREEzE/Tvenmfx3UkcU/Sc=; b=auWzwTCoEpfwxblnAtHte62+Camx6N/tCyYaIX0WSEwRbDwPHWtp0Ggf1p+jV5XZyP2wGI1y24fmV8ohlMlgtV5aHJpFmTS5qliEyCvlbj1yRaBSK5nPDZUPEBgUXVWI8XtEWveXX3l+5LSq8k+B0j3j17h1dXcAiyZO64GUhtA= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDFhN2JhOTQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.86.145.87]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:42:32 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:42:31 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gK6J4-000Ejb-3m; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:42:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:42:29 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Alejandro Imass Cc: freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ZFS re attaching failed device to pool Message-Id: <20181106184229.cbc0a77021e9f5b5506b230b@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4C7379FD-8646-4246-9CD0-AC3B281B32C9@lists.vlassakakis.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1A7F985DE2 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.81 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.75)[-0.750,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.09)[-0.092,0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:42:40 -0000 On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 13:16:40 -0500 Alejandro Imass wrote: > # zpool status -v > pool: zroot > state: ONLINE > scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h6m with 0 errors on Tue Nov 6 07:24:56 2018 > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 > diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N2YTRX40p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > diskid/DISK-WD-WCC4N6XZY8C2 ONLINE 0 0 0 You have just converted your pool into a stripe over two drives with no redundancy. 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You need to boot up > the new kernel before installing the new binaries. Indeed, > freebsd-update does a two stage process. I have used this procedure for upgrading several times now (most recently from 11.1 to 11.2 - and that box started on 9. so it's been through two major version upgrades). There's an extra freebsd-update install after the reboot but other than that it's fine IME, YMMV of course. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 18:57:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D735112D9EA for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: from mail-qt1-x82f.google.com (mail-qt1-x82f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77CC386A4B for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 18:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: by mail-qt1-x82f.google.com with SMTP id n21so1262304qtl.6 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:57:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=059SQwTJskYXaCtA16X4UtujnP4u6fcJdFWgxP0Jtj0=; b=lnwQ6qmUyYxZ/0zPLMPkUwTrTwF4yiYYiyXTYb2sKvi9h1U7abR9xx97zV8dcT1bMn No/LFhAh+pL1AHzfLFo5EMZMg9wPt1gM2E35VC+N7XbgBpWgB1MOJDsDwre71LsosCPv pfXba9h0Gxg7i1l6OiQmohqYU0jqXCSweNNc5Hp7gMKNyLBhUQrwqQwvgFi8G6/MMmRb iXaItP7dhx3IK334LlK5vXMJx3lUMS1oFq8PhFvG0SuN31TI3fUZ2g3l6c75kKDyouWr yWape0K1ioomlsMWM/HUNbFzUNjDs70tOiDen2ogE4ASj1HRVnspqeHsrvHy41XQL0zi Rl4g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=059SQwTJskYXaCtA16X4UtujnP4u6fcJdFWgxP0Jtj0=; b=izueyoEhnFrJXIpJG/5fQxymbpL6hMBMVTBPszZw68O8SXiCk3r/bEVVckU6Zr13Yd mhTpCxh7HK3BDF1Mj9nqlnarW/bxLqD3KCPICKkfOLnXzuAUivLk0enxJXgFKkGnwFL/ xTPFz3v0iBNMw7N7UiCacFHbTk3dyiR2fqs7XDDq84y/0S5OUqZKIlnM1k3X45ojC9Um ZnQekaZh8pxaAoOP8xhtqkuujIbz3+pQghhZQ3O3ae5rwMisyERr+TxX1LplMiLhtvDp ZSzim613LwpZLR+H0S4M2KPzWSTW8oAAOu2mwd6qESjkx7uaoBrGAyrLfaoKit3YykDu /7mw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIZsR59FuSBxAi1RyTFJTtga9SUq1gwGDY/Vg/50v6bq2Aj9AF/ t7toQiTWiycfGGf6SIXvBrEtMWpXwKL9S9++15tz06wk+qw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eGS2l7hdEi3dltA/rp8zxErmhK7Fqw0cDBHIWpwC/qKQstG3TfkzFTxgHlujdrDQFkBoN3p+cDZ3TSMm5/8rA= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2d22:: with SMTP id h31mr2487979qtd.47.1541530652592; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 10:57:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a0c:9dd2:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 10:57:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181106174215.43746c0a0f28d86dd4ef0e14@sohara.org> References: <20181106170818.GD88460@mordor.lan> <20181106174215.43746c0a0f28d86dd4ef0e14@sohara.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?QXJhbSBIxIN2xINybmVhbnU=?= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 19:57:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 77CC386A4B X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.09 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.964,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.952,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mgk.ro]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.37)[-0.367,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.50)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.06), asn: 15169(-1.35), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:57:34 -0000 > I have used this procedure for upgrading several times now (most > recently from 11.1 to 11.2 - and that box started on 9. so > it's been through two major version upgrades). There's an extra > freebsd-update install after the reboot but other than that it's fine IME= , > YMMV of course. I still don't understand how this works. To build the new kernel for a newer RELEASE you need both the new binaries (which require the new kernel to boot first), and the new sources (which don't require anything). I assume you run freebsd-update first (which overwrites your kernel with the GENERIC one), then run freebsd-update after you have booted GENERIC (this will install new binaries, and I assume new sources), then recompile and reinstall your custom kernel, and then reboot again? If I guessed correctly you need an extra reboot step, and you need to boot at least once with a GENERIC kernel. Did I understand you correctly? --=20 Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 22:38:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719001103858 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 22:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D117B73AE1 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 22:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1541543922; x=1544135922; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=VE/55n/7bRHiUFoqjisxdBOfJ9Z/ljxbvr3ncv27oXc=; b=T31EM6x+BJojHaweRiJKPQvhyDwv3MygZ0n3tC1PZs2iYstT+UYAVwgnZCSUKbo+xcG2V3pICq66NUfHRiMPCW9vmAhhyywf+KS34EJ3PZy+lmt0g4rgdCr5mZZlpeKPUtfQVbWxXF09hWY9L6FFk29PAMzOCoinhX+3VK3grKg= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDFiMWQ5NTIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.85.171.149]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 6 Nov 2018 17:38:30 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 6 Nov 2018 17:38:30 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gK9zQ-000FmM-GI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 22:38:28 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 22:38:28 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels Message-Id: <20181106223828.4e65f87c884b43c40f0231e3@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20181106170818.GD88460@mordor.lan> <20181106174215.43746c0a0f28d86dd4ef0e14@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D117B73AE1 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.57 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.65)[-0.648,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.42)[-0.423,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.47)[-0.470,0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 22:38:42 -0000 On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 19:57:12 +0100 Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > > I have used this procedure for upgrading several times now (most > > recently from 11.1 to 11.2 - and that box started on 9. so > > it's been through two major version upgrades). There's an extra > > freebsd-update install after the reboot but other than that it's fine > > IME, YMMV of course. > > I still don't understand how this works. To build the new kernel > for a newer RELEASE you need both the new binaries (which require > the new kernel to boot first), and the new sources (which don't > require anything). Building the kernel doesn't need the new binaries, otherwise a source upgrade would be impossible. The first install must install sources as well as the GENERIC kernel. > I assume you run freebsd-update first (which overwrites your kernel > with the GENERIC one), then run freebsd-update after you have booted > GENERIC (this will install new binaries, and I assume new sources), > then recompile and reinstall your custom kernel, and then reboot > again? No, I never boot into GENERIC, the procedure is exactly as Julien described apart from the extra make install after the reboot. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 6 23:12:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B280611043BE for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 23:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C79F974B4C for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 23:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id n12so19508637qkh.11 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:12:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2skaywW2towYvoEfMFbLNHcLf0rCbgHVcNW8tMJXFvk=; b=XER/U3M9wiKF1Hz0SeIcoK9/NSUfbjMBmALF08zyrrr50c3gMTpBJ5nn137yPNYXcS VIoiDnu1/gL9aVeIaSQd9DJR/EzwVFteKOrUxfhbR784c+vHC5mV+sbcIbzNJzERxGex QamleJgNx3haSZ+eOHjjCRJzK8AZVe98NVTyWJHls5xlIEnix/60EqQ8BfYHHsN3jRsG nI/DX5yAY2nHO3H+ihL2brT0WjtjOHXueHx68qGtyekKNs9gdgEDP+zCZHuWQyo94Ihb ndU6ixp84LhY2uQXqLdT1SWCvbWMk2V+qJvShjWQgyBwvqa2ovdSD58dlJADbiwfCl3x tUtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2skaywW2towYvoEfMFbLNHcLf0rCbgHVcNW8tMJXFvk=; b=X77CInV1zGAlq6kp9hgHk0eBrK0RkkH8HG2STTdiWkqI4rPpY7mGOn2MR7EdXCpiBi u2+tKKlYXaELMcNS54ckOMtpFdF2Nj+7MUIe0kwmQ3Cc7CrR8XogJ9lWdIe/9EAfGaot 1F9MjD+vhz+KssZxZFPYPxfouvbobqDyBNGgMlo/7FaqFhv4cAt0b6IvASBKHLEnW1fh OpXItWpRX2fbXhpNExxE6WYt1/h39TMJgzxUhMVoHeTFrKk/B05udSHO53eeUSEHOo8e uTumsyl0LvFrjMZf7/sN9VQTL4yoMf79mwRr9jsnBm3+nayRXMOKpNzNc2pUfW/ylJYt asPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJHff3vq1JotL4bDSo79zVE6EdgXP3i3+ZT/HqJ5BM1F03N//pg Wt7WFSIXm63zwXEnC1AkCiBVCTOODhRrEuHOkTPSXW9TU+M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cnPCgWX8gAYdosgFW/yjTtQYAf71NeAhESM0+dAxSzSjnjbNhE9eW5NCrf/NAz1T7RUEGClIu3yVgb8TOLznI= X-Received: by 2002:a37:182a:: with SMTP id j42mr25894746qkh.83.1541545970103; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 15:12:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a0c:9dd2:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 15:12:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181106223828.4e65f87c884b43c40f0231e3@sohara.org> References: <20181106170818.GD88460@mordor.lan> <20181106174215.43746c0a0f28d86dd4ef0e14@sohara.org> <20181106223828.4e65f87c884b43c40f0231e3@sohara.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?QXJhbSBIxIN2xINybmVhbnU=?= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C79F974B4C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.46 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.971,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.958,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mgk.ro]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.68)[-0.677,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.54)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.24), asn: 15169(-1.39), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 23:12:51 -0000 > Building the kernel doesn't need the new binaries, otherwise a > source upgrade would be impossible. I was under the impression that building across releases was not recommended and/or fragile. From /usr/src/UPDATING: NOTE: FreeBSD has switched from gcc to clang. If you have trouble bootstrapping from older versions of FreeBSD, try WITHOUT_CLANG and WITH_GCC to bootstrap to the tip of head, and then rebuild without this option. The bootstrap process from older version of current across the gcc/clang cutover is a bit fragile. > The first install must install sources as well as the GENERIC kernel. Does it do that? According to the documentation, it only installs the new kernel. Other components (which I read as also the src component) are installed only by the second invocation, after you have booted the new kernel. Is this another case of the documentation being outdated? > No, I never boot into GENERIC, the procedure is exactly as Julien > described apart from the extra make install after the reboot. What extra make install? To recapitulate: This is how it works with GENERIC kernel: freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade freebsd-update install reboot freebsd-update install This is how Julian said it works for him with the custom kernel, except I replaced fetch with upgrade: 1) freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade 2) freebsd-update install 3) make kernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL 4) reboot 5) freebsd-update install In my understanding in step #3 you don't have the new sources yet, so how do you compile the new kernel? Or do you have them? Thanks, --=20 Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 7 02:54:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BB1110A088 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 02:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x934.google.com (mail-ua1-x934.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::934]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 997637CA36 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 02:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x934.google.com with SMTP id u19so4297788uae.4 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:54:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CuC+DOY+rDxsHYeiWIPgxxKzaXzR7K6ppS/6zOX3F64=; b=wTvSaLJbjn8nBBBvSgeI6Qv4mqk+g/9oBA2oE3joReZ2VM81SoEDiuXBMjqoArFewX 0tYuyvzBwvrRfqTARC+evtZ5EZsZ3IgqbixzmxpYNTk5H2d+KCVQhyeNXq/M7HNOy/3g TjnkydEmid/S6XhXIFjaWoAFJK8Qns2XX01L2hm8Cmq4Tl1x6KhawBD0GhLt76H0sKFY wJbDzS6BcepW/d2MIMZR4W0r/TpGzLjJsSE+PljuOxe1bikbWiDa2JGjuKA2lDG66qfc HDC5d5GE2vucaoFOwo13Oh9ijli2QQpu9u/hMvNjtiWbibe8CYCYLnwY/SZlPflxjtNd ax5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=CuC+DOY+rDxsHYeiWIPgxxKzaXzR7K6ppS/6zOX3F64=; b=ooVIVAXpXf9oJsXt76380ahqFGkOHWf9VvnTJVEjIPCEOAKY83lC1OJP3leVVDmgL6 KoOlhjjl30kuS/DSIJeGKUW2YTnyJIIsKTo2u96nur4MvV4Bg0YQgG2/owKUSVIlahBD HOTjlP/AuHTNDPBLDpZbhEpRTqO7JMaTU7liVeISJ3Sd7gmWk/DCoZ6pjRBffRH0swYb 555haVXLMGtBNvNk3oSZtvypi/53QgQXIK7Uwg/LXhIafYifZhv9+VEd3pis7GjVaB5F xn2ir+2LaxKqibjUS/y3RQJab4AAHd6p4bEcmkKRH/yoPKuaea1/3+xBn2QTSR6kExyJ +VlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLtEjarejb25mheejL2zdnguGDM1cv/AjDPI0YEl4Vfcb8DRVBG 6b42rdMFFTkvMotxMH6i81ga7pS659p4JwK0679scyWhqnI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eKrpPNlYXcrLtgKs3mPkRS02IM12Em6qhvZGTesQAdXyYxiqortAVup0jkbfnIR3u5EJxf6V9Cglg8vm376Xk= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:2981:: with SMTP id u1mr55792uap.96.1541559283701; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:54:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4C7379FD-8646-4246-9CD0-AC3B281B32C9@lists.vlassakakis.de> <20181106184229.cbc0a77021e9f5b5506b230b@sohara.org> <20181106191418.GB16406@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20181106191418.GB16406@neutralgood.org> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 21:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS re attaching failed device to pool To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 997637CA36 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.23 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.874,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.40)[-0.404,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.54)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.21), asn: 15169(-1.39), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:54:45 -0000 On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:14 PM Kevin P. Neal wrote: > I do suggest a backup to some other disk that you then take offline. I > don't know what will happen if you have disk trouble while a removal is > in process. That code, if I'm not insane, is very new. > > > Thank you all for taking the time to respond. So what is the the correct approach here? Would this suggestion by Kevin Neal have worked for re-attaching a good disk that had been ousted for a faulty cable? If so, what is the procedure for updating the handbook so that other people that encounter this particular situation can recover more easily? For a simple mirror, if you can handle the risk, you can detach the unavailable disk and then reattach it. Once the mirror has been dropped down to a single disk (ie, not a mirror anymore) then you can _attach_ the disk that was part of the mirror before. Just make sure you "attach" it, don't use any other verbs. At this point I will just backup, reconstruct the array and restore. Thanks again! -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 7 09:29:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D3411217CE for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D07189BEC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1541582987; x=1544174987; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=S4Q2N3hVys/Zjwqu/7IlLZMhmDAZYxlrUbGPv/ImUbc=; b=Uk6PdF15UccPERdfp47gKHonquBRZrcGrXTmTWtdWdCoWbpCJaDlTRvIPv/SqIiVky75WlPyOTcQ3my0TJGKkTJTWGWwQz/I3ymdrcrxMV/9xqQQninDqzHB6M9qOwJEuvJ4ID1aNHl4JWF4C5rPIctXd3ZXqeDqCNCxEK35gmU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDFiNWNhNDIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.86.145.87]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 7 Nov 2018 04:29:41 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 7 Nov 2018 04:29:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gKK9T-000JPF-0p; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:29:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:29:30 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Aram =?UTF-8?B?SMSDdsSDcm5lYW51?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels Message-Id: <20181107092930.3f48e1cee7caeb670fe38a58@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20181106170818.GD88460@mordor.lan> <20181106174215.43746c0a0f28d86dd4ef0e14@sohara.org> <20181106223828.4e65f87c884b43c40f0231e3@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7D07189BEC X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.77 / 200.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.84)[-0.845,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.951,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.947,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:29:48 -0000 On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:12:29 +0100 Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > > Building the kernel doesn't need the new binaries, otherwise a > > source upgrade would be impossible. > > I was under the impression that building across releases was not > recommended and/or fragile. From /usr/src/UPDATING: Only across some boundaries. > This is how Julian said it works for him with the custom kernel, > except I replaced fetch with upgrade: This is now almost exactly what I do for upgrades on the box with a custom kernel (the only difference is that I have the KERNCONF enshrined in make.conf and so don't specify it). > 1) freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade > 2) freebsd-update install > 3) make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > 4) reboot > 5) freebsd-update install > > In my understanding in step #3 you don't have the new sources yet, > so how do you compile the new kernel? Or do you have them? I never checked, I can only assume that they must be there. I'll try and remember to look next time I do one. It does make sense to defer as little as possible to the post-reboot install if only for this reason. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 7 10:23:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D741122E8A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 10:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: from mail-qk1-x72a.google.com (mail-qk1-x72a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0B0F8B8F1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 10:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aram.h@mgk.ro) Received: by mail-qk1-x72a.google.com with SMTP id n12so20177580qkh.11 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:23:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YMMykoC6uHC7Ps0bYuUBQ4hAuX3Yc3nbO7p4U1nv0FM=; b=GY4/Uh9hbZMeH4T7F8hq1HYmXCFEBirBR98q4C6t1LEpl33b32S9K8lNeE5r749hga jM9hMs81T11579XTlcQMreB+xhmg+rZiLCiMNAwBZ7EidTF+WIxRqiM7CSVW63IGiBTj BO8VWBkrOcrcjWdhcxRRxtixvfrERJ/F8Xc6AnBmzTv7/qHGA6Cq5b0I+WeMIQgAM9+b QE5J14pVpIfiiKMjle5tSBELgY8BhSm1/LbxXeZhaL2B+M2rVBbyUrC4lkIMggwRajbX Px20cBPwnrnVfpTyQHO9AxDX1lbYGxdsyERgUlRqhZGdAbZlP5Iwy4g3cI0dWIwvL1Es Hl/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YMMykoC6uHC7Ps0bYuUBQ4hAuX3Yc3nbO7p4U1nv0FM=; b=JOJ4pp3JhQ9H9j53PE3yXgrk4zQ4ZQj5Tl+X+jHkchlgmXvLqtgTd0/+fwF3Uizecz sMLhMUdHzc2/lyYTY+RjTTFhL4FGoPg0PKqUWp5MEuilhoFpRXECOeKLoIPJPC1qFiFc t/0xFrFSN1Dp6jHqHv/NFBzGUpe81lZhGpamSWI/Vh0UQ+vjZGZ29WhtBRGgQgqB8P2n wWQAADiXSFsYWK/VtGNqiWIdxGRpGfaWnsNR8uR6O8jKF6rY3BFhSkcrriBCeR39SUKz mQ8Ej5gSE9lt/ctkL8oN08ddOXJNVPHuquBhIXceTXkNJ/OtFRERKDfAXUQnW0L//Xxv y4KQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKkrETPE1BnWfXa2/9Vq5uMbvUZ9Wy2LSUwUPxVPjfQBYZn6SJq tKyx2P/sz7DB7Wq1dm2TIMxpoaDOPOxcdCRaNQP0LuVX4uM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fkK8aM12jZ4MbA5B4zFR6mx07a/0cvK89Lt2lW4Yb0kr1OvERnyemQ/3OF2/dY7YN0leUBYWepuwibWdY3V8Q= X-Received: by 2002:a37:62d3:: with SMTP id w202mr934468qkb.357.1541586235997; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 02:23:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a0c:9dd2:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 02:23:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181107092930.3f48e1cee7caeb670fe38a58@sohara.org> References: <20181106170818.GD88460@mordor.lan> <20181106174215.43746c0a0f28d86dd4ef0e14@sohara.org> <20181106223828.4e65f87c884b43c40f0231e3@sohara.org> <20181107092930.3f48e1cee7caeb670fe38a58@sohara.org> From: =?UTF-8?B?QXJhbSBIxIN2xINybmVhbnU=?= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 11:23:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update(8) and custom kernels To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B0B0F8B8F1 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.54 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mgk.ro]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgk-ro.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.78)[-0.782,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.50)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.05), asn: 15169(-1.35), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 10:23:58 -0000 I just checked, the new kernel sources are not installed by the first update. I tried this on a 10.4 system with a custom kernel: # uname -a FreeBSD ip-172-31-46-244 10.4-RELEASE-p13 FreeBSD 10.4-RELEASE-p13 #0: Wed Nov 7 09:12:40 UTC 2018 aram@ip-172-31-46-244:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FCTARGET amd64 # # freebsd-update -r 11.2-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install Installing updates... Kernel updates have been installed. Please reboot and run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again to finish installing updates. At this point the new kernel sources are *NOT* installed. There is no point in recompiling the kernel here, as you will recompile the old (10.4) kernel. If you reboot now, you will get the new (11.2) GENERIC kernel, not the custom kernel. After reboot: # uname -a FreeBSD ip-172-31-46-244 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Thu Sep 27 08:16:24 UTC 2018 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 We can now run freebsd-update install again, to finish the upgrade. After that is finished, we can now recompile and reinstall the custom kernel. $ cd /usr/src $ make buildkernel -j32 KERNCONF=3DFCTARGET $ sudo make installkernel KERNCONF=3DFCTARGET $ sudo reboot After reboot we'll have our custom 11.2 kernel. As you can see, we had to boot into GENERIC to do the update. 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SK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 7 22:56:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E3111310B2; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 22:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordancaraballo87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x12b.google.com (mail-lf1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51EDB7D488; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 22:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordancaraballo87@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id i26so12755752lfc.0; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:56:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7m4uqrNWby81U3AU8Py+KROepD6xDeBHw0mpTCtDyJM=; b=SzsU/3lxJ1i/K6AJMmycPMyhFiBLtLAIm5iyYsPxCgXBt2a8EkzYW4M4fqSvxbnsVq HibEZmklfIU/bxdlKrmkFqrlfnMqruLnRnPeF82Crrx6gIzYZjo+/vEiVBcX/dZJud2g YBc4apl/Jnuq9A1n4IQxQCYdoJBV15VJdEN+uwfrVF+PFtug2/+rY6e8ifDIBJRJs2Zi nT7VKu/JPivYJ2lMEZNZQcGY/AUkrqlJ6AM0HBvWWpA9dPeNn3WuSPX/vrwP3M46h5gh V3hFgNj0CuePlI5uU2be0xB+XZum4abWWWZvhiTt/FYm+Gn3RXxPK2rTZ6TsxzcTCzI1 NJOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7m4uqrNWby81U3AU8Py+KROepD6xDeBHw0mpTCtDyJM=; b=I0axcnlEIvOLrWuMhj5uJ50RU6RpDKsaE3TsNz/Yv3dNcBmM7mCpWGx35tyfF6w/nt mSs+NKuz982870+dvLgC5CaMuGUIs1LG4mTWJtySB/36gKUD5AInF2HluFcSF+BF+VSQ PoCV0BriCkxkg6oRXLjzAftOO6Rx9wg0ORCgEO67JIlGWSzgHvQRGC0k835fIRKhWRcv OdmN0rd1VyYDQefiePkXuw/+62bbnbU71H1GIFRINfTM1WCfBoPJFcpR0KBjMwfy+aBo ZaF7CyfL+DYqC6Mob9zz3hT1k7Uj5i/031rdxaQTX0KynD+woG0Tv+9elahK/Ze9dJxC peAw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLJME8bbqI/PH9vSBRg6CpkXuXMdBCU+Ez8A63IUiu1QF/X1gkC iABfJruM5dxSOYbAtcykosl2JnZpgciVWP49lpQKjmZO X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eRQkboWMQh57qCfaF2aOJ3ZSsSUeHDpLEmY3lRsj+Vqs7Kkil/WMTb4+ybzWE7QB2JZCj9N3sxAwXr3U7gHak= X-Received: by 2002:a19:914b:: with SMTP id y11mr1200310lfj.98.1541631397663; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:56:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jordan Caraballo Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:56:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Jordan Caraballo X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 51EDB7D488 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.28 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.73)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.04), asn: 15169(-1.51), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.538,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 22:56:40 -0000 Hi guys, After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using ttyu0 and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typing at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo. Any ideas? Below are the configurations. /etc/ttys # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. #ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100 on secure ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure # Dumb console dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure /boot/loader.conf # ipmi enabled ipmi_load="YES" # ipmi configurations boot_multicons="YES" boot_serial="YES" # serial configurations for COM1 console="comconsole,vidconsole" comconsole_speed="115200" comconsole_port="0x3F8" hint.uart.0.flags="0x00" hint.uart.2.flags="0x10" -- Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 7 23:10:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AF91131764; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 23:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d12:604::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67E6E7DEDB; Wed, 7 Nov 2018 23:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13:0:0:0:5]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wA7NAd5L035132 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Nov 2018 00:10:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: jordancaraballo87@gmail.com Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wA7NAcEJ053811 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Nov 2018 06:10:38 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan To: Jordan Caraballo , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 06:10:32 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 67E6E7DEDB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_PERMFAIL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.888,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.12)[ipnet: 2a01:4f8::/29(-2.85), asn: 24940(-2.73), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 23:10:58 -0000 08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote: > Hi guys, > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using ttyu0 > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typing > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo. > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations. > > /etc/ttys > > # Serial terminals > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. > #ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100 on secure Use network access to perform the following: 1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply changes. 2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init q" again. Then retry using console and sudo. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 00:51:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEFC1101898 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 00:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from u_info@yamaichi-family.co.jp) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B507E81869 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 00:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from u_info@yamaichi-family.co.jp) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 766021101895; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 00:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650E11101894 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 00:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from u_info@yamaichi-family.co.jp) Received: from sv17.wadax.ne.jp (sv17.wadax.ne.jp [211.133.134.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.wadax.ne.jp", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71A6B8185C for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 00:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from u_info@yamaichi-family.co.jp) Received: (qmail 23525 invoked by uid 101); 8 Nov 2018 00:45:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WIN-TLL2MQ78I2E) (u?info@yamaichi-family.co.jp@52.193.36.151) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Nov 2018 00:45:04 -0000 From: "Sean Kim." 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 12:27:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A071128480; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89DE27BA26; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.110.112]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gKjOp-0000ep-DJ; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 13:27:03 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Jordan Caraballo" Subject: Re: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan References: Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 13:27:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ronald Klop" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (FreeBSD) X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 398f5522cb258ce43cb679602f8cfe8b62a256d1 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -0.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 X-Scan-Signature: 1f72ff50073f138f9668c095d6f579a1 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 89DE27BA26 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.48 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.190.28.64/27]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.946,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[klop.ws]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx2.greenhost.nl]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.76)[-0.755,0]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: NL(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47172, ipnet:195.190.28.0/24, country:NL]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 12:27:05 -0000 On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 23:56:26 +0100, Jordan Caraballo wrote: > Hi guys, > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using > ttyu0 > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typing > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo. What do you mean by 'not working'? Is there an error message? Does it hang? Do you get logged out? Regards, Ronald. > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations. > > /etc/ttys > > # Serial terminals > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. > #ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100 on secure > ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > # Dumb console > dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure > > /boot/loader.conf > > # ipmi enabled > ipmi_load="YES" > # ipmi configurations > boot_multicons="YES" > boot_serial="YES" > # serial configurations for COM1 > console="comconsole,vidconsole" > comconsole_speed="115200" > comconsole_port="0x3F8" > hint.uart.0.flags="0x00" > hint.uart.2.flags="0x10" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 12:40:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EA61128C47; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordancaraballo87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x12e.google.com (mail-lf1-x12e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A97CF7C2B7; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordancaraballo87@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id n18so14052834lfh.6; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 04:40:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/OXvVrTJ+wubnlHAH8vbKUU5a/mSSaDymKlgJ9199Ik=; b=iunyH+rEmHCaf72a/w0lW2Y+2qVjdhYcKWxFlq63XuV0aGShdoPA1vy6QP4yojwAz4 AbGx+9BuMVjQUtEjmodMidbBbGdJRomlamdU+QEI1Tx3w6xBL754jOfAEGBF6mBNVHp1 Yalh9VzfQUiTpijWZuaH7CpOdYeIXc7DxYvG5N+DFOUSYzqr8TphAdOrS8hsH+jyF0TB ylZfDNzh5QbKqjnWwTgLwHDM8W4FtptIRjdYvr9ZTTO2VM6sQlWL4Qm0wBlkWUuecfhF vitennEk8LSbuHTkMLxbSBlJOA8bvt4OwdeNPC7D4Fg3ksHFUpIwv1mA79WHKisnAmUF T77w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/OXvVrTJ+wubnlHAH8vbKUU5a/mSSaDymKlgJ9199Ik=; b=EOk8TPMQhahvrPQdMCo2Om3JhIjBKiYZPm1m9JxrneFNZYQ5f7PyzOIVS6tTcKQ551 ToSZFwgiHJSW2W6FV/7cOsePuzFku5TptNGOsadTculLzGKEEy60O30cht1qYH/h3wAQ 2HyVokzhpH1KBPr7gKiH460J0mE8fU2r77gNmiFL6TCbFixLpXgeNadsgTPZniUEThcW yzJd+xvRiRV+Ap/Bx8HAoh2zHwbOBXLKIzpB1LbZ1QulMX4rbpKLFoRdeQp1ko+7PKND Zu2etNT8G+gm2BczX0obCbfknxQLGv15LmtmPmAFQSxONqDL5+E2J6g8Fo2HLQHSSFfK DZpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKhcv3wtGumMOoDZfXHG+WZh6vSk5xMHcqzXeuQv5zOAOTgzZBN wDiHCuiiF2Ap+WVDerp0wOS+DAxrOs8NaQmo2vI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fMO8SBvszHyxghZjSHYqJqVbpKN5LuRGVpzC2Uba9qREF2LHveuUV7OjKfMM4GoUsS7UqLwuffUrieXcMB48E= X-Received: by 2002:a19:6514:: with SMTP id z20mr2497449lfb.31.1541680854105; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 04:40:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jordan Caraballo Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 07:40:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan To: Ronald Klop Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A97CF7C2B7 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.58 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.73)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.02), asn: 15169(-1.55), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.84)[-0.840,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 12:40:56 -0000 It hangs. No output at all. Latest testing showed that if I do: # sudo su - And hit Ctrl-C two times I get the password prompt, however, when I enter the password it ignores it ( no error message). /var/log/auth.log just records that the user executes the =E2=80=9Csu -=E2= =80=9C command. Just to be clear, when using normal console or kvm, this works fine. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:27 AM Ronald Klop wrote: > On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 23:56:26 +0100, Jordan Caraballo > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able to > > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am using > > ttyu0 > > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and typi= ng > > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is sudo. > > > What do you mean by 'not working'? Is there an error message? Does it > hang? Do you get logged out? > > Regards, > Ronald. > > > > > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations. > > > > /etc/ttys > > > > # Serial terminals > > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. > > #ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100 on secure > > ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > > ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > > ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > > # Dumb console > > dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure > > > > /boot/loader.conf > > > > # ipmi enabled > > ipmi_load=3D"YES" > > # ipmi configurations > > boot_multicons=3D"YES" > > boot_serial=3D"YES" > > # serial configurations for COM1 > > console=3D"comconsole,vidconsole" > > comconsole_speed=3D"115200" > > comconsole_port=3D"0x3F8" > > hint.uart.0.flags=3D"0x00" > > hint.uart.2.flags=3D"0x10" > > > --=20 Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 12:42:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E10F1128CF4 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81F967C597 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wA8CgFrL058822 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 13:42:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id wA8CgEKq058819 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 13:42:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 13:42:14 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: 13.0-CURRENT: Cannot probe medium sector size Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.fig.ol.no X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 81F967C597 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.18 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.81)[-0.805,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fagskolen.gjovik.no]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.38)[-0.383,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[ipnet: 2001:700::/32(-0.02), asn: 224(-0.01), country: NO(-0.01)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no,trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:224, ipnet:2001:700::/32, country:NO]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no, trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 12:42:28 -0000 I have a non-vital VM on XenServer 7.6, running: FreeBSD freebsd-head-zfs.FQDN 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #0 r340244: Thu Nov 8 12:47:24 CET 2018 root@freebsd-head-zfs.FQDN:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/XENGUEST amd64 1300003 1300003 The boot disks are partitioned as shown below: $ gpart show -p ada0 ada1 ada2 => 40 33554352 ada0 GPT (16G) 40 1024 ada0p1 freebsd-boot (512K) 1064 33553320 ada0p2 freebsd-zfs (16G) 33554384 8 - free - (4.0K) => 40 33554352 ada1 GPT (16G) 40 1024 ada1p1 freebsd-boot (512K) 1064 33553320 ada1p2 freebsd-zfs (16G) 33554384 8 - free - (4.0K) => 40 33554352 ada2 GPT (16G) 40 1024 ada2p1 freebsd-boot (512K) 1064 33553320 ada2p2 freebsd-zfs (16G) 33554384 8 - free - (4.0K) Before and while presenting the boot loader's menu, the screen is filled with: Cannot probe medium sector size See https://ximalas.info/~trond/13.0-CURRENT-r340244-Cannot-probe-medium-sector-size/13.0-CURRENT-r340244-Cannot-probe-medium-sector-size.png The system is bootable. It's been like this for a long time, but I figured it's time to do something, if possible. Are there any chance of silencing these messages? Are the partitions misaligned? Does XenServer convey the necessary information? The same issue holds true for non-UEFI systems running under recent versions of VirtualBox. (XenServer supports only BIOS/legacy boot firmware.) -- Trond. 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TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[202.109.58.52.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.20.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 15:39:48 -0000 On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 06:10 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able > > to > > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am > > using ttyu0 > > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and > > typing > > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is > > sudo. > > > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations. > > > > /etc/ttys > > > > # Serial terminals > > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd > > etc. > > #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole secure > > ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on          secure > Use network access to perform the following: > > 1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply changes. > 2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init q" > again. > > Then retry using console and sudo. The easy way to accomplish the same thing is to change std.115200 to 3wire.115200 (and then do 'init q'). -- Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 17:48:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5A11132141; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 17:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordancaraballo87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x12e.google.com (mail-lf1-x12e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C483B89DED; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 17:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jordancaraballo87@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id v5so9839166lfe.7; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 09:48:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2G79bZ3+6RJVGx5LugeBFACIOOY6gAesv1+bfJZmvhg=; b=Kwj36BlqMf1Owh4VFVdm+wFdkqUkpEH9YeSqSfZ43Ooe+6AJjLhmmh8HvorQd8g9Vm To8IS3ToisNlXDKP1eJYqRuIcDKx0qdnQCwJjDlLB8Sa3n6RAsDwgpoJ0gWT/GlU32af FASmxyKWgDYo9SjcXtyDelawfwGUOeIimjfOb16tnKtTNWQHSKC6jRj1Em1S7hh4ptMN 5SpqK6WzuMeZzxLvd4hMSKF+HLHg9SOdFLs8ROrB4e3VysoNYiXlE1eGvoFRUSdd7aCT SacPgTom4gfPXd81R0hJwA7L20CN1OBgFIgOuGATL9Fn6ZHmF3zFi0wgilJIRmtx9Wt4 mK6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2G79bZ3+6RJVGx5LugeBFACIOOY6gAesv1+bfJZmvhg=; b=oyIWF+wQnLCffGNnFAQqrHL4FArGYt9rMdVyqUAhfNMU21d+wzVpfM9bmWf4eJ3V/Z t98qm54ZOy59bCb8o95jTDdRlCZarxXQje9qQ74mi6ELpAsigkBcGW9tLq8k5WBIB9KD Lc8qm564DdmB7HhYJL2+ilqe5gD+tfd59eOTIHtocvXbTNTg8wjYept+aJHi2o2VNcuO ZcL24OEHvXTLOZ8qdIyZaJE9c0H8MezCoNzJozNgXAC1G/SU5jCKZyRRWyhcO/nCkXCl q/U/eKswtmVwqh/Fy5kLMuXEnAbJwKKn6EUnsbcM4rVpViCk+N67MnsXllDN8hBX1IuC zphg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gK/NIEsS029AYx3L3C3rrjf7y9UTvUMCNsBmlva3i50VQJjtJkO Lyok2QjsGxVvOIm21rzKt+PCjFC5ZZXqE+5Z2jqKQFK+bEI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dhO9x+IeijHmsaBVnuEr+I8q8G3Q7NocYhWUbNRWrcPUr3D3bnHotMqXA6Nw0alRLnMG36Ye/OliTYtz64jNg= X-Received: by 2002:a19:6514:: with SMTP id z20mr3162887lfb.31.1541699282327; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 09:48:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1541691574.52306.94.camel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <1541691574.52306.94.camel@freebsd.org> From: Jordan Caraballo Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 12:47:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan To: ian@freebsd.org Cc: eugen@grosbein.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C483B89DED X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.68 / 200.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.929,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.00), asn: 15169(-1.62), country: US(-0.09)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 17:48:06 -0000 Hi Ian, Changing the line following line from std.115200 to 3wire.115200 worked. Can you explain the why? I am not entirely sure of the difference between 3wire and std there. ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire.115200" vt100 on secure Thanks, - Jordan El jue., 8 nov. 2018 a las 10:39, Ian Lepore () escribi=C3= =B3: > On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 06:10 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > 08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being able > > > to > > > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am > > > using ttyu0 > > > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output and > > > typing > > > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is > > > sudo. > > > > > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations. > > > > > > /etc/ttys > > > > > > # Serial terminals > > > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd > > > etc. > > > #ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > > > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100 on secure > > Use network access to perform the following: > > > > 1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply changes. > > 2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init q" > > again. > > > > Then retry using console and sudo. > > The easy way to accomplish the same thing is to change std.115200 to > 3wire.115200 (and then do 'init q'). > > -- Ian > --=20 Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 18:13:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952DA1100174 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from NAM05-BY2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092012071.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.12.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D06E68B225 for ; 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Thanks! --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 18:39:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA09A1100B63 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E1CB8BD10 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MOi1H-1g9eGg1Hjz-00QEOk for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 19:38:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 19:38:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Append to "command" in rec script Message-Id: <20181108193853.ee1404e2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cU0fMCaRjQ6KGahxWu+yMrCvSVYBQHzROz64DQjubcI551+RnfJ H3oM6oOhRjdbF2W2ErL0gqNZX0gUKK2BWv/TGuO6r1lmfTyowLKd6IarXJyFnqDJLhBNRh3 th+07c4VI1Ctl/gDIWLZvDEp9TyZPsmFJBZ7WrcZ5IPQ4w8C9bOXTZvaxGSInVRwdZZHm/J ITz4KppMnr9KK4gDveJLA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XAklFGTwRsU=:pY5ch6IcuI5Xt07uWAUcLC S+WAHYaWIqMIZZ/Tg9AeTdIaCHlo1guD5O6gUvBwBORfQWlLeWhG2oNrhun3Tz0Lwt1Ez/pJa cjCriZfG3EfiCnkZ39Abe4AK7gaB+ZqQs4H8XZAXvc/J00JpINqsc2P8r6Ae5I2IQhaJKbXoh fEzEOjEBvMNF++kJv/c2/RtVIVa/l8K/IK8DWcDBYjio1gubcNsn2AsP5lSA+HgVITYIH6XHN XrJcRUB/i9wqK1HjzJuL+1df8d8HVT/Zd4tj2bWuq/QS/DipQMTYmeDnX47zZ+EhiI3jIo0i3 YLLyMJLXLGYbojrc33r4AEc2DInGoRzRsMOTQFxEbwuNMAMmVFIKTSgpFtV7UYMdHfswOSX2x Jy83M+2bRm/Xt/jMSiBtf4wlG4T6vJcgFjnlZ7Ss14mr7k3Ke7OhYAxhLwQXhwoS0LcVO97pv 6i3p+EyAe+y+m11aybFu3i3/6RL+duMzm/5JjeQmQAWNVADEzXJpa2e9lVge3gpmVlj9OzAAx OEDzQxVdfoXFSqX8WdTMoRKoP7p/i7x/dvnGu6ClQbFHoRKAp8lG8J9GV6csPDiw1X7yoXIRJ ye6aIegEuIl2N2/kPxXUWYVuSqEhz12BT2InzFtPOggqSAKBQAN4IrRx7Vh9WUb593h9eDRZp +Yr6H/SL0GhRD7AFl1/ervV/WHKVYyLHU+n9vmgBFVoYs9uM+wVrpWq0RJxeTj4plrgZrptlc mvf3hwwp+ogLrtgMlHrAC0sBH6OgWlJrtf8/V+t8AHsGMhJWgRrSOuEJQnelCDWYLU8gv9uVn VtDlNL1BgaREGxufOzVz8M1f7E9/g== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5E1CB8BD10 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.34 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; IP_SCORE(0.07)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.27), asn: 8560(0.62), country: DE(-0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[181.180.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.91)[0.915,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.21)[0.211,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.76)[0.761,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:39:03 -0000 On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 18:13:24 +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > I am attempting to create an "rc" script to start a program I am working on. > I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.conf file to be > added to the "command" string when the program is started. > > EXAMPLE: > > In the rc script, this is present > > command=/usr/local/bin/MyProg > > Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify the rc > script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would rather they > entered options in the rc.conf file Maybe read "man 5 rc.conf" and put non-FreeBSD (or at least "experimental" stuff) in /etc/rc.conf.local. The difference between rc.conf and rc.conf.local is not as big in FreeBSD as it is in OpenBSD. ;-) > I have been trying to use something like this in the re.conf file: > > MyProg_append="-l" > > is there a way to get the script to automatically append that to the > "command" or would I have to use something like this: > > command=/usr/local/bin/MyProg ${MyProg_append} The common way to do this is to have a _flags variable, for example myprog_flags="-l" You can then execute $command $myprog_flags in the script you're sourcing rc.conf into, and then executing the program with flags, if present. In case you don't have this in place yet, a convenient way to source rc.conf is this: #!/bin/sh if [ -z "${source_rc_confs_defined}" ]; then if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/defaults/rc.conf source_rc_confs elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/rc.conf elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf.local ]; then . /etc/rc.conf.local fi fi # ... your commands here ... This makes sure a certain "precedence" is maintained, if you need that feature. > What happens if the variable is empty? An unset variable will (with sh defaults) evaluate to the empty string. See "man sh" for "-u nounset" if you want to get warnings about unset variables. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I am not entirely sure of the difference > between > 3wire and std there. > > ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire.115200" vt100   on          secure > > Thanks, > - Jordan > The standard setting honors the modem control lines on the serial port, so any attempt to open that serial device will block until the carrier- detect line on the port is asserted. The 3wire setting indicates that only RX, TX, and GND are connected, and modem-control signals should be ignored. An open of such a device will return immediately whether anything is actually connected to the serial port or not. A /dev/ttyN device is assumed to be a "call-in" device and has the blocking behavior by default. A /dev/cuaN device is assumed to be a "call-out" device that doesn't wait for modem carrier by blocking. Using the std vs 3wire designations in /etc/ttys causes init(1) to set termios(4) flags to implement blocking-open or immediate-open behavior without needing to change the device name as well. -- Ian > El jue., 8 nov. 2018 a las 10:39, Ian Lepore () > escribió: > > > > > On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 06:10 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > > > > > 08.11.2018 5:56, Jordan Caraballo wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > After configuring ipmi serial over lan console, I am not being > > > > able > > > > to > > > > execute any command related to sudo; not even "sudo su -". I am > > > > using ttyu0 > > > > and COM1 on a Dell R530. Everything regarding receiving output > > > > and > > > > typing > > > > at the serial console is fine; the only command not working is > > > > sudo. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? Below are the configurations. > > > > > > > > /etc/ttys > > > > > > > > # Serial terminals > > > > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, > > > > fingerd > > > > etc. > > > > #ttyu0  "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire"      vt100   onifconsole > > > > secure > > > > ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" > > > > vt100   on          secure > > > Use network access to perform the following: > > > > > > 1) Change "on" to "off" for ttyu0 then run "init q" to apply > > > changes. > > > 2) Replace "ttyu0" with "cuau0" within same line then run "init > > > q" > > > again. > > > > > > Then retry using console and sudo. > > The easy way to accomplish the same thing is to change std.115200 > > to > > 3wire.115200 (and then do 'init q'). > > > > -- Ian > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 20:12:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3572B1103BA4 for ; 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I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.conf >> file to be added to the "command" string when the program is started. >>=20 >> EXAMPLE: >>=20 >> In the rc script, this is present >>=20 >> command=3D/usr/local/bin/MyProg >>=20 >> Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify the = rc >> script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would rather >> they entered options in the rc.conf file =20 > >Maybe read "man 5 rc.conf" and put non-FreeBSD (or at >least "experimental" stuff) in /etc/rc.conf.local. >The difference between rc.conf and rc.conf.local is >not as big in FreeBSD as it is in OpenBSD. ;-) Actually, man 8 rc.subr is a lot more useful. However, it doesn't give me what I want. Also, I have been having a problem with "run_rc_command" chocking on complex startup options placed in the rc.conf file. I am still trying to debug that one. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 20:26:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489DF1104443 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:26:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eborisch@alumni.stanford.edu) Received: from mail-lj1-x229.google.com (mail-lj1-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63D86AE3C for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eborisch@alumni.stanford.edu) Received: by mail-lj1-x229.google.com with SMTP id g26-v6so19192476lja.10 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 12:26:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=iXboZapIJ2P2C870x/tb9A+0kqKS+G/xMV3/auQMfaQ=; b=MIrJgYKPpBDYJg2kSs6EBNqVn663gjDBVBtzCXUB/D4u0WHQwGsqJhW4rfV57xEfky Ps6+HsSZ3jqkIVtfowe7YE5Hbgx3oI3RO7TjCaTtxs4ehsw81qzBPu85LGrklmJyjiD9 jh31bZezVbygmo1Q5It5eovoGfqQVrzRe0Q2KntB8AtEgrpxn2yDW6g+NmMYgVTHXdXv h+ejkag2nOkMeP1zuV33428cFLc9iYFtga0xEIs0g/ckPhyQado3IhYQ5wTGfr5qhx3U bgBec7F2vK/OmId6JItd9x0xms/qMsUSrKE5OviLHFqmzwSJ0WNNN/eoRRa4A30BbvsV 7b9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=iXboZapIJ2P2C870x/tb9A+0kqKS+G/xMV3/auQMfaQ=; b=cHw1IIjsLDgMo7HY8N0SX+Kr+ddRqb9Fxt09+NIDWpnf43EF3cqexqUOQnpPLGHzs9 v+t2l1y/8woVF/wmfjRU/UiVU/jHujdtpffBNC8eWbSNXACcykm29/FAndGSEwQb52Wp msCRQ2iYN9fH/ErRWyu6cHdNKzIjWo3A0za7fNxjV0o+yR6zakbc0qKbZSTVC2294WH7 4WWXIkkf51jAsIlk6q9RtHQPbMTAQfdWsLE8r5h/q1ts3eBdpxgkjK2PZ+o0OLiAr0UB ndoRweQtizmA08Zgt/C3nxCMdnvfCV2UnNFheSAXZB2e8mJDHIrb1BBtWWrIJKMtkqpO FGKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKZJvrtDrTeTlV6mLdlkb9ZGC/5c/t99uTta3SvxFVgs/U6vmh0 AacKZ9H1asRd8CdJG4GQ1b1qSCF9IF6gIh3Lcq7Elw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eZn3N6guEpusUib+PBQ9faVjC2rlFJW8eu+VTd7yAl2mghrCkzClNHzM9QubsuCnwGhMtJqCRm+t/eM0TOT90= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9213:: with SMTP id k19-v6mr2951676ljg.100.1541708815249; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 12:26:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1541691574.52306.94.camel@freebsd.org> <1541707622.52306.134.camel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <1541707622.52306.134.camel@freebsd.org> From: Eric Borisch Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 14:26:43 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan To: ian@freebsd.org Cc: jordancaraballo87@gmail.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D63D86AE3C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.45 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ALT2.ASPMX.L.google.com,ASPMX.L.google.com,ALT1.ASPMX.L.google.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[eborisch@gmail.com,eborisch@alumni.stanford.edu]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.76)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.98), asn: 15169(-1.72), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[eborisch@gmail.com,eborisch@alumni.stanford.edu]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 20:26:58 -0000 What I find interesting is that with the 'wrong' setting, you can log still in just fine, and run most commands, but 'sudo' alone fails as described above. (I've had the same experience on Serial-over-IPMI, but 'su' worked fine so I never dug into it.) It's an easy fix, but I'm still (academically) interested in what it is that sudo is doing that is unique. - Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 20:32:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE14B1104855 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpp302@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-f54.google.com (mail-wr1-f54.google.com [209.85.221.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28A2A6B5B7 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpp302@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-f54.google.com with SMTP id z16-v6so22667244wrv.2 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 12:32:16 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XN7nQ8Zfw0JQ+PF4McqW40jdBLZwJDXYsZ2TM2wjvvg=; b=lwhvt928iwP+XTCbdXflWtijijmSJwN9LEaYS/Xt3fPNGsl6pC8TUPBath+pPbu2Op pB5rPyiZG2gcj5B2i0O8aagegM7BBOINFpn9Fmy+HSEm5N1AxEVcDB87BTYGsJW8jWpK RxslagWXgUJUzv9CwHzTjQcbQFKTVjpuRpK1opR4rBQHr9AmqX8D5BF//gg9qNEUWp0s Ju1y1vHruWe+suFVOC4qoniQ8bd+eP644CPr8X+oatFdeptWatdan69kIxSznXTxyCnM fIygd0Ts1FlpZ3s4HtdZQ6z+UjJ4AiZrcCYuJ+oX0caQxgrtsBW5fWq9rd+/Y26uEA/t 3ZIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLq31ulp8He+y1v23xb2/ou57+fxgPC5p8Ala46Z3yaOh8NKt3C jNvFTvfIS96pgpWJc37KiOI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eYDyypmZC93nAyoMydoBeWNgh5yw8eCNwS6We+/A75WMMLhXSSqKD428ONUnV9wfvOz+bsxg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:a512:: with SMTP id i18-v6mr5932234wrb.220.1541709134705; Thu, 08 Nov 2018 12:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from e5500.localdomain (x5d81a90b.dyn.telefonica.de. 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I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.conf >>> file to be added to the "command" string when the program is started. >>> >>> EXAMPLE: >>> >>> In the rc script, this is present >>> >>> command=/usr/local/bin/MyProg >>> >>> Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify the rc >>> script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would rather >>> they entered options in the rc.conf file Don't you look for ${name}_flags (see rc.subr(8)). 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I want, if possible, for the user to enter something in the rc.con= f >>>> file to be added to the "command" string when the program is started. >>>>=20 >>>> EXAMPLE: >>>>=20 >>>> In the rc script, this is present >>>>=20 >>>> command=3D/usr/local/bin/MyProg >>>>=20 >>>> Now, suppose the user wanted to activate logging. They could modify th= e >>>> rc script and append an "-l" to the command string. However, I would >>>> rather they entered options in the rc.conf file =20 > >Don't you look for ${name}_flags (see rc.subr(8)). ${name}_flags Arguments to call command with. This is usually set in rc.conf(5), and not in the rc.d(8) script. The environment variable `flags' can be used to override this. That calls "command", it does not append a value to it. I receive an error that "eval" cannot handle it. I am going to try: load_rc_config_var name var Read the rc.conf(5) variable var for name and set in the current shell, using load_rc_config in a sub-shell to prevent unwanted side effects from other variable assignments. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 8 20:56:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34681105A25; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:d12:604::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DA416C734; Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13:0:0:0:5]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wA8KuHHX045018 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Nov 2018 21:56:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: eborisch@gmail.com Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id wA8KuHrW065236 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 9 Nov 2018 03:56:17 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: sudo not available after configuring ipmi serial over lan To: Eric Borisch , ian@freebsd.org References: <1541691574.52306.94.camel@freebsd.org> <1541707622.52306.134.camel@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jordancaraballo87@gmail.com From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <67eb2aaa-fb93-0cf7-7f05-caf7c0e0c809@grosbein.net> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 03:56:11 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0DA416C734 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.69 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_PERMFAIL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.901,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.19)[ipnet: 2a01:4f8::/29(-3.00), asn: 24940(-2.94), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2018 20:56:35 -0000 09.11.2018 3:26, Eric Borisch wrote: > What I find interesting is that with the 'wrong' setting, you can log still > in just fine, and run most commands, but 'sudo' alone fails as described > above. (I've had the same experience on Serial-over-IPMI, but 'su' worked > fine so I never dug into it.) > > It's an easy fix, but I'm still (academically) interested in what it is > that sudo is doing that is unique. It calls syslog() function with parameters that (for default /etc/ttys and /etc/syslog.conf) makes an attempt to write to the console that blocks. You can easily verify this using "ktrace -i sudo ..." and "kdump" after. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 12:33:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76435112F3C7 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD2479790 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A16CD112F3C6; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7CC112F3C5 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3D6B7978A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id i17-v6so1718371wre.7 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 04:33:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=luDb+35WPuNsB/bNmwB/Jxc8qUG/Q9UzPtBN1ztNjtg=; b=UK8Yecx+g1DN+VkRXYFppb3fPNXTHeudfB3AIi5FaF9MptOVsuCZqKELfFNw3kTMaD ZGzqxPUXhUKbWPDbhd9NljlPAFaiUY2Q9opM1ervckmZlXlZKKkJZ18Ulcq86cjKmEc4 RUDs3b+mImdHam3evZRHmSxGau6YTyvtQgrIQroSGkkcGlSE0ABaUlEMlCVGW38JNlLD f0lRDSXiVVonCxuA67K5XftizrFRcgpA4huu78atWySFZ/PVyvJTQzA4tZiRvzQp9tAa PQ+WtnJaiGCR6ldLorCG6dRc4wXMQLf7EOyN/rSwiBTCt4vjBah4x+MwTBDUp1DruIFO wycg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=luDb+35WPuNsB/bNmwB/Jxc8qUG/Q9UzPtBN1ztNjtg=; b=XQrLEhbg7RQxXRd4101RleHkp5QuKiafgaMSjzAeAH8hkT2wq9LqCEh8jC0BC/qWbN +PsDL3RliANt4FrEcd2jaBuhiigP5SUO4rmkpWwOOvvSueORKdblFZDOKIyYGYnllZKV sJIO/h4X1wraKcmBCvAXb62OC7d1TuE2fwJ52TjO/7ArDf3O7rW9IjEmsOiAqIz0Hu4X gFy0nCR1Lz5PMJPJRcXsKGDFNNVrZ+2YEzuBYExyo+gP6xY6DOWyCpARjae7oG7/ptVF djgMb6A2xPdo0vFRmSPuXwiqxbOX6ZtqpAXD02yJmCokse3328+Zx8XAevpuATxF+5v6 2law== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJrq54injwW4Avt1OtlaJJliKatV6MwWsCmw/q8iyJQGxjDxsAt HDT4O7rVirVMfBGgbTnXgmAIwJb5l77zyirb7IQDnplz X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fiJKTW4W/4BgqLGA3hYhO1GSFo46UXro0pOBIaFcs9P5GieBNZj3hcBirG2gRTc+tGljdkuwERMWy/a1EKKAs= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:620b:: with SMTP id y11-v6mr7803324wru.105.1541766781129; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 04:33:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:32:23 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: php70|php71 problems To: questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DDD2479790 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.94 / 200.00]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; FORWARDED(0.00)[questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; SPF_FAIL_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[5.0.0.0.0.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.a.6.0.2.4.5.2.2.0.0.9.1.1.0.0.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.63)[ip: (-9.79), ipnet: 2001:1900:2254::/48(-4.68), asn: 10310(-3.60), country: US(-0.09)]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10310, ipnet:2001:1900:2254::/48, country:US]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.902,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 12:33:04 -0000 I have scratched my head for two days trying to figure out this. I had it with php70, which I uninstalled and replaced with php71 and now the problem is worse, because apache24 still is trying to load modules from the uninstalled php70. /usr/local/lib/php/20151012/ refers to php70 modules - which I already uninstalled. /usr/local/lib/php/20160303/ refers to php71 modules - which is what I want to settle on. I am now literally stuck. Why is it still looking for modules from php70?? And why is mysql.so & pdo_mysql.so having this issue of "Unknown on line 0"?? Ayudame, por favor :-) [09-Nov-2018 09:27:07 UTC] PHP Warning: Module 'pdo_mysql' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 09:28:59 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 10:03:49 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 10:05:05 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 10:05:06 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 10:05:07 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 10:05:14 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 10:05:44 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 10:09:41 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 12:01:16 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 12:03:17 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 12:06:30 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 12:08:10 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 12:15:45 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 [09-Nov-2018 12:16:46 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 How do I resolve this?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 16:19:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B2C1100AD6 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F738112C for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A14C718017 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 10:19:04 -0600 (CST) To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Valeri Galtsev Subject: OT: good free email service? Message-ID: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 10:18:58 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 94F738112C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.42 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.23)[-0.231,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.269,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu,cosmo.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.31)[0.309,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:19:11 -0000 Dear All, I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-) Still, can someone recommend good free email service? I remember someone mentioned one on this list, but I failed to find that message in list archives and between messages I saved... I definitely will not go with google, Microsoft, Apple. I don't have same strong feeling about yahoo as I have bout above, but... Anyway, thanks in advance for all your advises. Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 16:21:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580A41100B94 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DE181353 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 54ADC1100B8D; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C1D1100B8C for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-f175.google.com (mail-yb1-f175.google.com [209.85.219.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 462F68132E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-f175.google.com with SMTP id n140-v6so1282642yba.1 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 08:21:10 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ANpWkZ49/dfA0vRFtqs7VtqTRbjiZeok7Y5Mqf6Ci50=; b=OiQj0NQ0adCEXKqM1FBe9z44isOlWWyiNXi8ZsS3wh6N5V0qftTSag3ZKVdI2sIfWa 9O/rrGwEvpQDZCdDklaEIJixuxrmTqCs1yfb2jdFwY6oRax3iMhh7QndOh7HQjpjvUPA ZbL+JQHmE5UR105S8Y79kbM7UlBbB+soirWGwcycPHX6uOtVSmE6im98Ze+o0W9wmJKs frOzyj+GS6NcbgbI4xnHOOTx2789AY7v9HUS+4+7B2qh5IqgHGGDyFcEtCVzkYhRD7oX 5YyKQeaZ7A0siiNpDRZDqWr5m+vPLqYLOuuWI3VjRq+RfbffiGvAKJzIiC08ZMSk6zuE ktzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKoamOAAxDfYbEbt249RdgzXaUxc4DsUcBy5eltc/2MSyPXaTgp Qd30noorXHB6/ETxiv6fTE98kut2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eHvQ5ieG2fU9EE+TOlPNQ26SR9lVLYppucjLZ2/ZsGo6dZiHBqePdC8om/Xvrc33oIHhyTwQ== X-Received: by 2002:a25:c4c5:: with SMTP id u188-v6mr9376774ybf.424.1541780463982; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 08:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yb1-f169.google.com (mail-yb1-f169.google.com. [209.85.219.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y185-v6sm3510878ywy.42.2018.11.09.08.21.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Nov 2018 08:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb1-f169.google.com with SMTP id z2-v6so1277955ybj.2 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 08:21:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a25:c981:: with SMTP id z123-v6mr9179577ybf.511.1541780463078; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 08:21:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ultima Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 08:20:51 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: php70|php71 problems To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 91DE181353 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.80 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; FORWARDED(0.00)[questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org]; SPF_FAIL_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[5.0.0.0.0.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.a.6.0.2.4.5.2.2.0.0.9.1.1.0.0.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[ultima@ultimasbox.com,ultima1252@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.63)[ip: (-9.79), ipnet: 2001:1900:2254::/48(-4.68), asn: 10310(-3.61), country: US(-0.09)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10310, ipnet:2001:1900:2254::/48, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ultima@ultimasbox.com,ultima1252@gmail.com]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(0.00)[odhiambo@gmail.com ..,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.954,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ultimasbox.com]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:21:12 -0000 Hello, Odhiambo, This is probably related to linking to the other version of PHP and not all packages were rebuild for it. Anytime you make a major change like this you should also get in the habit of rebuilding your entire ports tree and force reinstalling all packages. If you do not do this, then you will likely run into these problems with other random ports as you are here. Best regards, Richard Gallamore On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 4:34 AM Odhiambo Washington I have scratched my head for two days trying to figure out this. > I had it with php70, which I uninstalled and replaced with php71 and now > the problem is worse, because apache24 still is trying to load modules from > the uninstalled php70. > > /usr/local/lib/php/20151012/ refers to php70 modules - which I already > uninstalled. > /usr/local/lib/php/20160303/ refers to php71 modules - which is what I > want to settle on. > > I am now literally stuck. > Why is it still looking for modules from php70?? > And why is mysql.so & pdo_mysql.so having this issue of "Unknown on line > 0"?? > > Ayudame, por favor :-) > > [09-Nov-2018 09:27:07 UTC] PHP Warning: Module 'pdo_mysql' already loaded > in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 09:28:59 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 10:03:49 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 10:05:05 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 10:05:06 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 10:05:07 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 10:05:14 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 10:05:44 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 10:09:41 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20151012/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 12:01:16 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 12:03:17 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 12:06:30 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 12:08:10 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 12:15:45 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > [09-Nov-2018 12:16:46 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load > dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20160303/mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > > > How do I resolve this?? > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 > "Oh, the cruft." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 16:42:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF7411014FC for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89E438271D for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id L9j2g7jQfXEleL9j5gDRME; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:33:43 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Video acceleration? 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I load in /etc/rc.conf: kld_list="/boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko /boot/modules/ i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.ko" glxinfo reports: name of display: :0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.4 client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI client glx version string: 1.4 GLX version: 1.4 Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer): Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff) Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff) Version: 18.1.9 Accelerated: no Video memory: 16384MB Unified memory: no Preferred profile: core (0x1) Max core profile version: 3.3 Max compat profile version: 3.1 Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1 Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0 Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes ??? What am I missing? 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To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6ACF384C4C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.31 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.87)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.51), asn: 15169(-1.77), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.930,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 17:42:57 -0000 On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:20 AM Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Dear All, > > I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-) > > Still, can someone recommend good free email service? > > There used to be many, maybe Linuxmail is still around etc. but the truth is that anything "free" is in exchange for your privacy in one way or another. Even on some paid services, they may still put something in the T&C such that they can share data for marketing purposes. So IMO you are left with 2 choices: 1) Setup you own server (e.g. FreeBSD ;-)) and manage your own email server. 2) Pay some good and relatively inexpensive party to manage your email I did (1) for years until I got fed up with controlling spam, viruses, spf, reverse DNS, and being put (or putting others) on black lists etc. But it works and it's free. After I discovered HushMail I am very happy to pay the $60 or so per user per year. It's really NOTHING if you cherish your privacy and your time: https://www.hushmail.com There are probably others like them, but I cannot recommend anything I haven't used myself. And I recommend these guys two hands down. Best and good luck, -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 17:56:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42D81102D5E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 17:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [IPv6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8AF585760 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 17:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:558:6017:94:c582:1d99:a986:7609]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42s7BQ6SkCzZDyl for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:c481:ff9e:228f:935a] (unknown [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:c481:ff9e:228f:935a]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42s7BP6Svrz1XwJ for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> From: Mike Message-ID: <6bf2df75-f385-6c74-0e54-10a56959bfa1@mgm51.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C8AF585760 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.71 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.02)[0.018,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[0.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.6.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[oneyou.mgm51.net]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[9.0.6.7.6.8.9.a.9.9.d.1.2.8.5.c.4.9.0.0.7.1.0.6.8.5.5.0.1.0.0.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:2607:f2f8::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 17:56:34 -0000 On 11/9/2018 12:42 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:20 AM Valeri Galtsev > wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-) >> >> Still, can someone recommend good free email service? >> >> > There used to be many, maybe Linuxmail is still around etc. but the truth > is that anything "free" is in exchange for your privacy in one way or > another. Even on some paid services, they may still put something in the > T&C such that they can share data for marketing purposes. > > So IMO you are left with 2 choices: > > 1) Setup you own server (e.g. FreeBSD ;-)) and manage your own email server. > 2) Pay some good and relatively inexpensive party to manage your email > > I did (1) for years until I got fed up with controlling spam, viruses, spf, > reverse DNS, and being put (or putting others) on black lists etc. But it > works and it's free. > > After I discovered HushMail I am very happy to pay the $60 or so per user > per year. It's really NOTHING if you cherish your privacy and your time: > > https://www.hushmail.com > > There are probably others like them, but I cannot recommend anything I > haven't used myself. And I recommend these guys two hands down. I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues. I use it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not used the IMAP capability). https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 18:06:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBCC1103365 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch (mail4.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95BA7862B9 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:06:06 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? 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Even on some paid services, they may still put something in the > T&C such that they can share data for marketing purposes. > > So IMO you are left with 2 choices: > > 1. Setup you own server (e.g. FreeBSD ;-)) and manage your own email ser= ver. > 2. Pay some good and relatively inexpensive party to manage your email > > I did (1) for years until I got fed up with controlling spam, viruses= , spf, > reverse DNS, and being put (or putting others) on black lists etc. Bu= t it > works and it's free. > > After I discovered HushMail I am very happy to pay the $60 or so per = user > per year. It's really NOTHING if you cherish your privacy and your ti= me: > > https://www.hushmail.com > > There are probably others like them, but I cannot recommend anything = I > haven't used myself. And I recommend these guys two hands down. I am using protonmail since about 1 year and I found it very good: https://protonmail.com/ It is focused on security and privacy. They use easy end-to-end encryption when possible, i.e. from a protonmail account to a protonmail account, and zero access encryption (that means that they cannot read your mails even if they want to; of course this is true only once the encryption has been d= one: if you receive a non encrypted mail, for example from a gmail account, then= , in theory, they would be able to read it, and indeed it passes through the spa= m filter, but after the spam filter it is encrypted and unreadable to anyone = except you). The free account is very restriced (only 3 folders and 3 labels), but if it= is enough for you you might be happy with it. Paied accounts are not expensive and th= ey will probably make a discount soon for black friday or cyber monday. Keep in mind that it is still in construction and they do not have FreeBSD in mind (they are not working on any easy way to download your mail on your computer; they are working on it for linux ho= wever and it might work for FreeBSD too, maybe after a little work; for the momen= t you can only use the web interface). Lorenzo Salvadore. 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I'm using MUAs with POP accounts, so don't notice, if this happens. Zoho was very good, but since a few days Zoho seems to have a bizarre policy regarding "duplicated" mails. If I send a mail Bcc to myself, I receive the mail with an intact Bcc header. Mails I send to at least one mailing list, don't come through to me. 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[65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 22-v6sm3053631ioc.22.2018.11.09.10.14.56 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Nov 2018 10:14:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5BE5CE9D.9030503@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 13:14:53 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-jail@freebsd.org" Subject: 12.0-beta3 pf firewall NAT rule syntax for vnet jail using pf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4289386BE3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.96 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.96)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.85), asn: 15169(-1.88), country: US(-0.09)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:14:59 -0000 Hello lists; testing 12.0-beta3 vnet jail that is using pf firewall. net.inet.ip.forwarding =1 for the vnet jail. Host is running ipfilter firewall. The kldload pf.ko pflog.ko command has been issued. 10.0.10.30 is the ip address assigned to the vnet jail in the jail.conf. Using this nat rule nat on epair2b from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> (vge0) vge0 is the hosts interface facing the public internet and a member of bridge2 along with member epair2a. When I do a ping 8.8.8.8 from the vnet jail console I get message "Time to live exceeded" The vnet jail pflog shows in and out on epair2b 10.0.10.30 > 8.8.8.8 Thinking the NAT rule is incorrect because the pflog doesn't show the nated ip address assigned by the isp. OR maybe the nat rule is not functional in a vnet jail because I found a bug. Am I missing something here? Help please. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 18:25:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9211103F32 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic307-7.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic307-7.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C9F987531 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: IkMMRQQVM1mMFjcOleCSeRH5NhOFEUx326cZgejtGFXPeBa.Rd9vextog0PCPmN ex05NY9vGf2nt5w75BftcIa3HxEUvxvmqUq5Ar_YiS6C5Z1SiiOPA8CAJR2aFo.BIIA9eBNJokI5 mK8BfaiIGMwWbfwgLLGHduQY1jNHcGlvzIiIFaaI3uyoLtnRQmqyg4XrUhNhARqiZjmAHIAnzyqO h7GezT6n9QOMGyMVDaaZXxq9C9p6KJqPHayKlk5MHqJTfBQ82GAHVZPtA_9rEq61FkzWzeVGuChF 5s9VUp3YPdBs0eukaf4ZlMKuBjzJ4pa3a4A.LqeSERPRZlXreviZq1EG61zxuCh6Aw1BobVZGOGn VDSIiDRQrXJN.Rx3_k.MBqs5ZRUQStEvLXIRGEB6Y7bwvIRHOiyDDoIssMaQypn0jWIQnlqeRllA XLJcrsAdv8Bsaa3KHvSlmb6HlweQDWMsMshmEBkL80fFoOIj.DQ2KeG9R.bwcnIWPB6TsC8NYE9J bFAi2QOWqScuXoGrWoDJxEDp1GRqa62RLcuwD7J8iz4RUhvm_b_kyi3Zi5YmmyBNGQh9zGH7iQxf 7nFuxPg0U7.H0R.zDggzeQpUsSVFI4g46zR5yIfGtjdUZJKZZaPmYZXj3pi3uiEFUzOgsUoMhj2l 6lrda78sTJ8IoZAOZ52m9yFIjCVV5yOCU7kT5X4U1odvkilyC31Bwcc3HoeCLau0REeJK.7t2EJI Z4A6pEH1DzD5eNlvbTG_kw1srwDIVlkI92YVU1776EbvOCfXJxao.d.WiW4RfD5v34yRVg9uJvDK we18BeZja_fMrMewECL27c1K2RaAmQXRpTWA3m.MOnv2ph_uIl8N7QPVqft_WzulgMPbZErAsrAq 9BFS09Dvq396YLlloxL753qQUiSXhNJUKIvdfCmhE8.lLhbikm5XJE_dvWbmHlcBhawWDlVaZlfJ siVke9MMCaP1EkrG6yljJaWUO64DsZehd6LkaQnyc9X_BWyqeqhZccnhRqV_OmgngWDXKJZQadBY VZCAs1SgHjWYgfpiHO_5DwjqF2Vm88X.x404R32UEphuy Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:25:33 +0000 Received: from x4db56760.dyn.telefonica.de (EHLO archlinux) ([77.181.103.96]) by smtp410.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 403c148c911d86555a1349a05ddb9575 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:25:30 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? Message-ID: <20181109192530.6581ba1f@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20181109191002.135bfb71@archlinux> References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20181109191002.135bfb71@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3C9F987531 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.07 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[96.103.181.77.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:87.248.110.0/24, country:GB]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.28)[-0.278,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.74)[-0.741,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.67)[ipnet: 87.248.110.0/24(1.90), asn: 34010(1.56), country: GB(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.92)[0.919,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[32.110.248.87.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[32.110.248.87.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:25:35 -0000 PS: Regarding privacy I wouldn't trust any provider, neither if the service is for free as in beer, nor if it's paid. Privacy isn't an Internet domain. 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Regarding problems, they are very open, generall= y comment on Twitter and offering explanations for the problems. ---- Lu=C3=ADs Bandarra > On 9 Nov 2018, at 18:10, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: >=20 > Rocketmail/Yahoo are very often a PITA, with the Yahoo spam filter > disabled, it anyway moved important office mail to the junk folder of > the web interface. I'm using MUAs with POP accounts, so don't notice, > if this happens. Zoho was very good, but since a few days Zoho seems to > have a bizarre policy regarding "duplicated" mails. If I send a mail Bcc > to myself, I receive the mail with an intact Bcc header. Mails I send to > at least one mailing list, don't come through to me. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 19:26:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E4C11054EB for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6114E8A182 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1541791582; x=1544383582; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=qtdwe+b1MYr+l9PZr9fEtDIQSMGgQ0ZPW6gXlfyLW7Q=; b=oFxYzYvkZiXM0mUvfTJT4emGvzU0y0vEVogKBl1esbdGSN+hcNzIHeJsOakjhP9ZdwkasBuTgbKVv5NNPqngV+HuR0bXrPUYc/Giywpvua9v6h7PRUAi/YijA+KhMN9MooJLEcNllHeMFrH8r25f9oi7e77jUwojT888q4JCw5U= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDFlYmI4YzcuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 9 Nov 2018 14:26:09 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 9 Nov 2018 14:26:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gLCPt-000AKC-VN; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 19:26:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:26:05 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? 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Not long ago I responded to someone looking for a decent SMTP service. I can point you (or anyone who asks privately) to the one I use, which has so far failed to annoy me (they sell bulk ). I'd hate to try and get mail delivered without using a trusted relay. For the other end of the problem (incoming) I run my own setup (sendmail/spamassassin/dovecot) which is dead easy to set up. > I definitely will not go with google, Microsoft, Apple. I don't have > same strong feeling about yahoo as I have bout above, but... You probably should (and I'm an ex Yahoo!). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 19:34:53 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BCA1105928 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0F248A8B0 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N3bfB-1fLhk92Cyx-010b5o; Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:21:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:21:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Steven Friedrich Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Video acceleration? 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(0xffffffff) > Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff) > Version: 18.1.9 > Accelerated: no > Video memory: 16384MB > Unified memory: no > Preferred profile: core (0x1) > Max core profile version: 3.3 > Max compat profile version: 3.1 > Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1 > Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0 > > Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes ??? > What am I missing? You are currently using a software renderer. This _might_ be one of the few cases where kld_list in rc.conf does not work. Try to manually load the modules after system startup, but before X is started (for example, via /etc/rc.local). On the one system with Intel graphics (Lenovo Thinkpad R61i) I have this entry in /boot/loader.conf: i915kms_load="YES" I have the "xf86-video-intel" package installed. Then I'm starting X without xorg.conf (via "startx" command), and in "glxinfo" output I get this: Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer): Vendor: Intel Open Source Technology Center (0x8086) <=== HERE Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2 (0x2a02) <=== AND HERE Version: 17.3.1 Accelerated: yes <===================== AND FINALLY THIS ENTRY! Video memory: 384MB Unified memory: yes Preferred profile: compat (0x2) Max core profile version: 0.0 Max compat profile version: 2.1 Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1 Max GLES[23] profile version: 2.0 This is quite different from your output where "VMWare" is being listed... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 19:39:21 -0000 > On Nov 9, 2018, at 11:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Dear All, > > I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-) > > Still, can someone recommend good free email service? > You could check out protomail: https://protonmail.com/ Rather privacy focused. 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Message-ID: <20181109205256.0ad6256c@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <6bf2df75-f385-6c74-0e54-10a56959bfa1@mgm51.com> References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> <6bf2df75-f385-6c74-0e54-10a56959bfa1@mgm51.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EF7F78D3F0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.52 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.73)[-0.727,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.78)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.94), asn: 15169(-1.88), country: US(-0.09)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[68.18.221.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:53:02 -0000 On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500 Mike via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues. I use > it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not used the > IMAP capability). > > https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain (they specify 1 alias). Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 22:29:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82933110A28C for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl) Received: from mailout4.ceti.pl (mailout4.ceti.pl [62.121.128.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063536AAA3 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout4.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71499C0552F0C; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout1.ceti.pl Received: from mailout4.ceti.pl ([62.121.128.44]) by localhost (mailout1.ceti.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MLetWNEHzB9v; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from tau1.ceti.pl (tau.ceti.pl [62.121.128.11]) by mailout4.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7F9C0552E2D; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by tau1.ceti.pl (Postfix, from userid 3727) id 775E2960DDC; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 From: Tomasz Rola To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? Message-ID: <20181109222119.GB12347@tau1.ceti.pl> References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 063536AAA3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.87 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.58)[-0.582,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.66)[0.661,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.40)[-0.398,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ceti.pl]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: tau1.ceti.pl]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rtomek@ceti.pl,rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15541, ipnet:62.121.128.0/20, country:PL]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rtomek@ceti.pl,rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: PL(0.01)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 22:29:10 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 10:18:58AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Dear All, > > I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-) > > Still, can someone recommend good free email service? I cannot. But I would start by looking for (paid) shell account - I think they usually come with email option (i.e. POP3, IMAP and SMTP). I have had a look and panix.com has a webpage. Note, I am not associated, not even a client, I have no idea if they suck or not - albeit I have hard time imagining how I could suck while giving shell accounts, because it seems rather easy (a classic UNIX service, eh?). Going after shell has a benefit - at least there is a chance you will be hosted on "something normal" or resembling UNIX to some extent. Free is not an option for me, because I am subscribed to too many mailing lists and I like it when the emails keep coming. For one or five mails a day, free might do the job. And they send spam to their free clients, because the cost of "free" account has to be paid somehow. With client-paid account, there is usually spamassassin or something and it might even catch some trash. Some other folks mention privacy. I would totally forget about anybody who tries to sell me this, for free or not (as they say, if one tells it to somebody, it is not a secret anymore and yet private email is supposed to keep it secret, hehehe - also, consider king Midas and his donkey ears). [...] > I definitely will not go with google, Microsoft, Apple. I don't have > same strong feeling about yahoo as I have bout above, but... I understand there are still some smaller players who would gladly solve your problem. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. 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DMARC_NA(0.00)[tundraware.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.02)[-0.023,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[oceanview.tundraware.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.984,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.68)[asn: 14061(3.48), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:45.55.32.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 23:19:37 -0000 I have two 10.4-Stable instances - One physical machine and one VM unicore on a cloud provider. I both cases, I downloaded the 11.2-stable source via svn and proceeded to do make buildworld buildkernel (all running under 10.4). On the VM everything completes flawlessly. On the physical machine, it blows up with an error traceback like this: ... /usr/include/c++/v1/cmath:776:9: note: using declaration using ::cosh; ^ fatal error: too many errors emitted, stopping now [-ferror-limit=] 20 errors generated. *** [Support/APFloat.o] Error code 1 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmminimal 1 error make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmminimal *** [_bootstrap-tools-lib/clang/libllvmminimal] Error code 2 make[2]: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make[2]: stopped in /usr/src *** [_bootstrap-tools] Error code 2 make[1]: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** [buildworld] Error code 2 Thoughts? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 10 00:35:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E09110CB04 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fnovelo@incitacionesmx.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227286E73D for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fnovelo@incitacionesmx.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DAE1F110CB03; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FE5110CB01 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fnovelo@incitacionesmx.com) Received: from mail.incitacionesmx.com (mail.incitacionesmx.com [172.107.170.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB38C6E723 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fnovelo@incitacionesmx.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=as488; d=incitacionesmx.com; h=List-Unsubscribe:Reply-To:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; i=fnovelo@incitacionesmx.com; bh=HcNkCyRVLIgF77lwf2OCx1COQ3k=; b=Oqjg7VHpxZhuldYfUjDsAqrdGR/Gsf7Qf2sDXXOYVgyniaKp550jaEGo1g6ONh/maec0SWJw43no WafLfgCi0HRBXASpc1yWVPIx+oQD8hvF9AiurH509Ib6v2vPQMmM2OegElhZL/9J1rVMiPa3V7fC tIH7OYnizARI84ewlH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=as488; d=incitacionesmx.com; b=JzmHzc1wgil+nJStg2Jl4NxDjkYOHsZZRuVeNPrhGuWOL9lBWDyMQ7dvUhPH39anVavRz83+dj96 Q1uth2cWtocuNwT/rTNnhxFexJ7fy48s8iHW3vLGMPhtVzfj7LYqLAu/fBSL+Jmj3h8XyK7LfRY5 acizEQecm2SvcvG6gbs=; Received: from WIN-DLLMFF5S9P7 (172.107.170.217) by mail.incitacionesmx.com id hsojug0our0l for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:34:45 -0600 (envelope-from ) Reply-To: fnovelo@incitacionesmx.com Message-ID: From: "Fatima Novelo" To: Subject: Buen Fin Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:34:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 227286E73D X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.03 / 200.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[fnovelo@incitacionesmx.com]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; FORWARDED(0.00)[questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org]; SPF_FAIL_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[incitacionesmx.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[incitacionesmx.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[5.0.0.0.0.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.a.6.0.2.4.5.2.2.0.0.9.1.1.0.0.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.incitacionesmx.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.64)[ip: (-9.80), ipnet: 2001:1900:2254::/48(-4.70), asn: 10310(-3.62), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.972,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10310, ipnet:2001:1900:2254::/48, country:US]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[incitacionesmx.com]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:35:37 -0000 HOLA !EMAIL! 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> <6bf2df75-f385-6c74-0e54-10a56959bfa1@mgm51.com> <20181109205256.0ad6256c@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Mike Message-ID: <787d0bf2-5da3-95e2-ab7e-320d3d356503@mgm51.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:13:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181109205256.0ad6256c@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 580526FBF7 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.59 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.14)[0.139,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: oneyou.mgm51.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[0.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.6.2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:2607:f2f8::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[9.0.6.7.6.8.9.a.9.9.d.1.2.8.5.c.4.9.0.0.7.1.0.6.8.5.5.0.1.0.0.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 01:13:33 -0000 On 11/9/2018 3:52 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500 > Mike via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues. I use >> it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not used the >> IMAP capability). >> >> https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx > > > One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest > of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain > (they specify 1 alias). > > Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all? I am not sure where you see the "two addresses on a domain" limitation. I just looked at the webpage and do not see it. Can you be more specific? To your other question: I do not know if they handle wild-cards, as I have not tried to use them. Maybe a quick email to their support might answer the question? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 10 13:21:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613B51133F27 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42d.google.com (mail-wr1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A26206BEB1 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id y3-v6so4621562wrh.10 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 05:21:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uU7x8BFHm/uzP9A4SKGp5dRbUEl2R4M1DtfjRw0A75s=; b=HlXWVjKzw8b05BX5vULKrt8qr7boSeH9hePhT0Rp2dAoaF80DvSxMzzvkt77j+JkBk UBrJpAIfA+LaCYDSpEvEFkESgr+MT4M0rd1JTRzp9put6oTcIWSTY0OYyW6i68SD7SJw YAV0hFupuK/xJJzJz+PSnght3hYX5FUsYUFGLidaLzr9EKwtF1AqYvoi1eJuTUDi81eV +22AhBqWnRojD0vwD6YZyyYkWJhG4F3RL4txIC6lg9972lrCakZdFwppxJrqot7gXTA1 VDPeSkvZWgqzgWtm3OMikGMuIed0FaWW70X16PrbRDrlbKx93VzQPKkcRxpnYZuSfmTT vaYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJuKAi39AbYx/Uhc0wQnLxiSQYqFwBgiJaDh9J/DrIeF5V+7wa7 YPsCs7BhwQZEoQjzQ4NJIwd6S2eynl4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5f7ZKbQldYsHHzmKo/rjCycjL8KXHiqSoG/mQC9ixm/54cR71r+ZVFXjSMfTQdWAHQdZenufw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:c084:: with SMTP id d4-v6mr11451724wrf.268.1541856088768; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 05:21:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.221.18.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r64-v6sm3734570wmd.43.2018.11.10.05.21.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 10 Nov 2018 05:21:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:21:25 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? Message-ID: <20181110132125.7db12d14@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <787d0bf2-5da3-95e2-ab7e-320d3d356503@mgm51.com> References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> <6bf2df75-f385-6c74-0e54-10a56959bfa1@mgm51.com> <20181109205256.0ad6256c@gumby.homeunix.com> <787d0bf2-5da3-95e2-ab7e-320d3d356503@mgm51.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A26206BEB1 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.905,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.78)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.92), asn: 15169(-1.89), country: US(-0.09)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[68.18.221.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:21:31 -0000 On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:13:18 -0500 Mike via freebsd-questions wrote: > On 11/9/2018 3:52 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500 > > Mike via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > >> I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues. I > >> use it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not > >> used the IMAP capability). > >> > >> https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx > > > > > > One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest > > of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain > > (they specify 1 alias). > > > > Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all? > > I am not sure where you see the "two addresses on a domain" > limitation. > > I just looked at the webpage and do not see it. Can you be more > specific? If you click on "Tech Specs" there's a table of feature and if you mouse-over the aliases "?" icon it says "Maximum number of aliases for each mailbox. Alias is a forwarding address. It doesn't have its own storage but forwards e-mails to main e-mail address" If you are required to nominate a main address on your domain and can have one alias, that sounds like a limit of two addresses. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 10 15:45:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E663C1101FCB for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59DDB706A6 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gLVRT-000DKk-5f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:44:59 +0700 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:44:59 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SDR USB receiver Message-ID: <20181110154459.GA50999@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 59DDB706A6 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.63 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RSPAMD_URIBL(4.50)[tomsk.ru]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.977,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE(0.03)[asn: 20473(0.23), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.80)[0.804,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.92)[0.919,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:45:12 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, Any SWLs among you? What USB SDR shortwave receiver would be compatible with FreeBSD, and=20 what software from ports would you advise? Please share your personal success stories with SDR receivers you=20 personally use. Thank you in advance. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJb5vz7AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0xb8IAJtD+o8Sdt2T2wIpsfee+DGA k2RztxRdFdxu/BU2AbjjhRmMrUVa4MPmtDVhT8VpwhCTT5OqHa4PfcpaUgJhtBmm JJag7RJRX9U3vgMH2f+/FCeLrqYmqTL4pktZm8PkRixVN5AuY4bOoacZpRbaKPgt SlmNSEoDxOSDeYdSJv/m9th0OSWYvuPDv3vfHv2jd7awEIV9VUDIuIX9D6bAVkJ/ XH3V94fjAiz6NkLsDGXINqiQVv0NukM6hj+lVAPpw1S8bgFBCODhNN5qhF80h5y9 AF9NiOVmMw57H4VLulRoW2TVv9pvmk1uZilY/CfO4aU9ooiCr1Ao3g0+vYjWfXM= =GR2H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 10 16:19:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B612A1102E77 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [IPv6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BA4171545 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:558:6017:94:c582:1d99:a986:7609]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42sj084G2bzZF1R for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:19:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:bd15:70ef:6288:c78d] (unknown [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:bd15:70ef:6288:c78d]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42sj0747KHz1XwJ for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:19:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> <6bf2df75-f385-6c74-0e54-10a56959bfa1@mgm51.com> <20181109205256.0ad6256c@gumby.homeunix.com> <787d0bf2-5da3-95e2-ab7e-320d3d356503@mgm51.com> <20181110132125.7db12d14@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Mike Message-ID: <0a783ff1-9426-c6a6-438e-d52ab91ff6eb@mgm51.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:19:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181110132125.7db12d14@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1BA4171545 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.02 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: oneyou.mgm51.net]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[0.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.6.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.29)[-0.289,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:2607:f2f8::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[9.0.6.7.6.8.9.a.9.9.d.1.2.8.5.c.4.9.0.0.7.1.0.6.8.5.5.0.1.0.0.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:19:46 -0000 On 11/10/2018 8:21 AM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:13:18 -0500 > Mike via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> On 11/9/2018 3:52 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:56:18 -0500 >>> Mike via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> >>>> I have been using PrivateEmail for a few years with no issues. I >>>> use it with Thunderbird (POP3 and SMTP both over TLS, I've not >>>> used the IMAP capability). >>>> >>>> https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx >>> >>> >>> One thing that put me off that is that it looks like the cheapest >>> of the three accounts only supports 2 addresses on the domain >>> (they specify 1 alias). >>> >>> Do they allow that alias to be a catch-all? >> >> I am not sure where you see the "two addresses on a domain" >> limitation. >> >> I just looked at the webpage and do not see it. Can you be more >> specific? > > If you click on "Tech Specs" there's a table of feature and if you > mouse-over the aliases "?" icon it says > > "Maximum number of aliases for each mailbox. Alias is a forwarding > address. It doesn't have its own storage but forwards e-mails to > main e-mail address" > > If you are required to nominate a main address on your domain and can > have one alias, that sounds like a limit of two addresses. Ahhh... OK. The $9.88 per year price is for one email mailbox and one alias. You can have multiple email mailboxes per domain. I current pay two times $9.88 per year for two mailboxes in my domain. Each of those mailboxes has the one main address and an alias. One nice aspect is that I can apportion the storage space as I want between the mailboxes I purchased. My understanding is that you can have as many email mailboxes per domain as you are willing to pay $9.88 per year for. Hope this helps.