Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:13:14 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Andreas Nilsson <andrnils@gmail.com> Cc: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? Message-ID: <20140717211314.GG28314@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <CAPS9%2BSt%2BFF2_-FbrCTXF-D3Vb7DhnOEHDti%2B5WXeO=BYu=QeGA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAG=rPVcyqq2072%2BgF_X91BocxykJB6%2BU0cMhaNexxfVFpVqUbA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=p6-7KCL8C09O4dPq04pitW5wDbtsDAyz-u4Qtr7rpRA@mail.gmail.com> <CAPS9%2BSt%2BFF2_-FbrCTXF-D3Vb7DhnOEHDti%2B5WXeO=BYu=QeGA@mail.gmail.com>
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--m972NQjnE83KvVa/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 09:57:44PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 > > Hi! > > > > 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box > > 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it > > can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a > > problem; > > > I disagree on this. For network services on linux ( apart from ssh ), I > want that started very seldom. But I do want the package installed so that > when I need it, it is there. Having it autostart as part of being install= ed > is breaking KISS and in some way unix philosophy: I asked for something to > be installed, not installed and autostarted. >=20 > > 5) .. and then we need examples of actually deploying useful > > scenarios, like "so here's what you type to get django working right", > > "here's how you get a default memcached that works well", "here's how > > you bring up node.js", etc. > > > Oh yes. I think that quite a few packages have default options that make > them unsuitable for out-of-box usage, ie some lack the sane default > dbi-stuff and so on. >=20 Reporting them is very much needed, we try to change this but without repor= t it is hard, as much as I can I use vanilla packages now, and I discovered that= they are now pretty much sane, a few example has been found and modified recently like nginx not supporting https by default, so do not hesitate to report any unsuitable options for out-of-box usage. regards, Bapt --m972NQjnE83KvVa/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPIPGoACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EwnGwCghpAb7hNsedG1Vq3nKxIpXsFn ausAn1PcYrU9sQrXC2LUnJM47PUA8tU+ =E4Du -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m972NQjnE83KvVa/--
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