Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:20:57 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org> Cc: lists@freebsdonline.com, Rick N <solarux@hotmail.com>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Bill Joy's contribution (was: BSD) Message-ID: <20090423032057.GQ65705@dereel.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <49EFB15A.3010807@telenix.org> References: <49EC97DA.5020600@freebsdonline.com> <BAY113-W7743B2E2FBFC28E3A220CA1770@phx.gbl> <20090421230721.GF65705@dereel.lemis.com> <49EFB15A.3010807@telenix.org>
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--MXxcbiX/Q4+iy5U7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 22 April 2009 at 20:07:54 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Tuesday, 21 April 2009 at 11:05:24 +0000, Rick N wrote: >>> (Actually) and Histrorically, Sun had a lot to do with the BSD's >>> (and vice-versa), Bill Joy's early work and contibution to the >>> BSD/Unix which later he took to form a little company called Sun >>> Microsytems in the late '70's. >> >> This is more than a slight understatement. Bill Joy created BSD, more >> or less single-handedly. > > Suppose this could be true, but it's not what I read ... that it > started with the 4 folks in the CSRG, but began (pretty early on) > getting contributions from all over the globe. I wouldn't want to > minimize what Bill Joy did, but saying he did it "more of less > singlehandedly" seems to be an unfair exaggeration. The CSRG came much later. There's some relatively accurate info in Wikipedia. First, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bsd : Other universities became interested in the software at Berkeley, and so in 1977 Bill Joy, then a graduate student at Berkeley, assembled and sent out tapes of the first Berkeley Software Distribution (1BSD). At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Systems_Research_Group : In 1980 Professor Fabry signed a contract with the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to develop UNIX even further to accommodate the specific requirements of the ARPAnet. With the funding of DARPA, Fabry created the Computer Systems Research Group. Clearly Bill Joy didn't do all the work over the years, but he started it off ("created it"). Once CSRG came along, he was only one of many. Of course, the real person to state the question is mckusick@, who described the whole thing in "Twenty Years of Berkeley Unix" (http://oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html). Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua --MXxcbiX/Q4+iy5U7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknv3pkACgkQIubykFB6QiPA3QCcCnHAX1q1vQ8OgsuruA1bLDR/ qg4An1FG0W0CWVNDW9vr0SmtzzFONrsw =If2q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MXxcbiX/Q4+iy5U7--
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