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Date:      Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:50:16 -0800
From:      Ulf Zimmermann <ulf@Alameda.net>
To:        Christopher Schulte <schulte+freebsd@nospam.schulte.org>
Cc:        Andreas Klemm <andreas@freebsd.org>, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@hub.freebsd.org>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: experiences (Re: FreeBSD Foundation Accepts Donations via PayPal)
Message-ID:  <20011226105016.E90222@seven.alameda.net>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011226095556.01acc550@pop3s.schulte.org>; from schulte%2Bfreebsd@nospam.schulte.org on Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 10:07:43AM -0600
References:  <20011226013738.49F2E37B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011226013738.49F2E37B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011226114655.GA7717@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011226095556.01acc550@pop3s.schulte.org>

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On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 10:07:43AM -0600, Christopher Schulte wrote:
> At 12:46 PM 12/26/2001 +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote:
> >Things I had to do:
> >- register
> 
> As do all other paypal users.
> 
> >- get an international account since I'm not US citicen
> 
> Paypal is based in the USA.... thus you would be considered international.
> 
> >- was forced to verify a paypal card number
> 
> This is for security and fraud prevention.
> 
> >- was forced to be charged with $1.94 for this paypal card verification
> >   am not sure for what they wanted to charge me $1.94.
> >   For the card ? The verification ?
> >   Then they claim you get the money back to your account ...
> >   Well, then why they try to charge me at all ????
> 
> Again, security.  You will get it back.  Come on.  Relax.
> 
> >Most annoying is, that they 1st tell you, that you don't have to
> >to the paypal card verification, if the money you want to send is
> >below $100. This is the case for me, I entered $ 50 a page ago.
> 
> If so, it's a typo that should be corrected.  Were there stipulations about 
> the country of origin?  Perhaps all international users must verify 
> regardless of amount sent?
> 
> >I'm sorry, but no way with paypal. Only wanted to write this as
> >an experience report...
> 
> Unfortunately, you are in the minority.  They claim to have 12 million 
> members, and a great percentage probably find the service useful and 
> painless.  The initial setup might be a bit unwieldy, but the idea is you 
> can then use paypal for many other things without going through the setup 
> process again.   As such, there are some 12 million people that can donate 
> to the FreeBSD Foundation with no hassles.  Click, enter login info, 
> send.  Not bad.
> 
> >BTW: Merry X'mas
> 
> Happy new year!
> 
> >         Andreas ///
> >
> >--
> >Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD
> >Need a magic printfilter today ?         http://www.apsfilter.org/
> >Songs from our band >> 64Bits <<         http://www.64bits.de
> >Inofficial band pages with add-on stuff  http://www.apsfilter.org/64bits.html
> 
> -c

I have been lately hearing more and more horror stories about PayPal.
For one, they are not FDIC insurred, so they can basicly do with your
money what they want and get away with it. There are a few websites
about their bad customer service, like Andreas mentioned, no way to
directly contact them (neither email or phone), answers are often just
form letters.

-- 
Regards, Ulf.

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