From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 6 15:20:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C3815741; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00710; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200001062325.PAA00710@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Darren Reed Cc: steve@virtual-voodoo.com (Steve Ames), committers@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jan 0100 07:41:40 +1100." <200001062041.HAA04552@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:25:01 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In some email I received from Steve Ames, sie wrote: > > > > *shudder* I really, really dislike the idea of -RELEASE actually being a > > wide beta so that some code can get a workout. LAbel it beta and more people > > will use it than currently do anyway. Any reason not to release and ship a > > 4.0-beta? -CURRENT = development which scares people. Beta means most bugs > > already ironed out and looking for test by larger audience. -RELEASE should > > not be a beta, ever. > > What do you think 3.0-RELEASE was ? > This seems to be how FreeBSD works now. It's how FreeBSD's users seem to want it to work, since they have utterly refused to cooperate with any other arrangement. Those of us behind the release-engineering effort have tried everything realistic that's been suggested (and a great many other things); history speaks for itself as to the results. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message