From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 12 13:22:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7889116A416; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (jojo.ms-net.de [84.16.236.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330AC43D7E; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:22:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (p54A5E5DE.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.229.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9CDJokA014746; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:19:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from localhost (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9CDMCwf040572; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:22:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:22:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20061012152206.cttnwklqb4s00s8g@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:22:06 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Dan Lukes References: <451F6E8E.8020301@freebsd.org> <20061011102106.GY1594@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> <20061011151458.L97038@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <20061011083021.C2780@treehorn.dfmm.org> <452D7351.6050804@obluda.cz> <452DF218.3090902@obluda.cz> In-Reply-To: <452DF218.3090902@obluda.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: performance@freebsd.org, security-officer@freebsd.org, Garance A Drosihn , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:22:29 -0000 Quoting Dan Lukes (from Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:43:20 +0200): [moved from security@ to performance@] > =09The main problem is - 6.x is still not competitive replacement for > 4.x. I'm NOT speaking about old unsupported hardware - I speaked about > performance in some situation and believe in it's stability. You can't be sure that a committer has the resources to setup an =20 environment where he is able to reproduce your performance problems. =20 You on the other hand have hands-on experience with the performance =20 problem. If you are able to setup a -current system (because there are =20 changes which may affect performance already, and it is the place =20 where the nuw stuff will be developt) which exposes the bad behavior, =20 you could make yourself familiar with the pmc framework =20 (http://wiki.freebsd.org/PmcTools, I'm sure jkoshy@ will help if you =20 have questions) and point out the bottlenecks on current@ and/or =20 performance@ (something similar happened for MySQL, and now we have a =20 webpage in the wiki about it). Without such reports, we can't handle =20 the issue. Further discussion about this should happen in performance@ or current@... Bye, Alexander. --=20 "A penny for your thoughts?" "A dollar for your death." =09=09-- The Odd Couple http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137