From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 2 23:45:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E56917 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 23:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6332F56 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 23:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nskntcmgw09p ([61.9.169.169]) by nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20131102234540.YCKG21423.nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw09p> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 23:45:40 +0000 Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au ([58.172.113.247]) by nskntcmgw09p with BigPond Outbound id knlf1m00J5LKYmq01nlfn7; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 23:45:40 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=APSpfbFe c=1 sm=1 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:17 a=1YbsQLIiAAQA:10 a=XQcqyAuJzvkA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=GHIR_BbyAAAA:8 a=R9Chgan7Lf0A:10 a=k4q5mbIvAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=8ggJXkvBAAAA:8 a=sekxo0TSAAAA:8 a=KIs6af01AAAA:8 a=g0GfAuZNR8AqJSlsyDEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=CYQZOqg2zxQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:117 Received: from [10.0.5.3] (ewsw01.hs [10.0.5.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.14.5/8.13.6) with ESMTP id rA2Ni2K2087294 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:44:03 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Message-ID: <52758DAD.8010400@heuristicsystems.com.au> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:41:33 +1100 From: Dewayne Geraghty User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> <1383206755084-5856905.post@n5.nabble.com> <5272107D.2070301@gibfest.dk> <5272BAB0.3040302@freebsd.org> <5272C46E.2050105@FreeBSD.org> <5272D834.5030004@FreeBSD.org> <20131102223400.GH34312@e-new.0x20.net> <20131102223751.GI34312@e-new.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: <20131102223751.GI34312@e-new.0x20.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 23:45:47 -0000 On 3/11/2013 9:37 AM, Lars Engels wrote: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 12:36:54AM +0200, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Lars Engels wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 05:22:44PM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>>> On 10/31/2013 4:54 PM, Freddie Cash wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk < >>>>> m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Bryan Drewery >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> At present , the packages information and themselves are available from , >>>>>> such as : >>>>>> >>>>>> ftp://ftp1.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/ >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems that new pkg compatible packages will not be exposed to the >>>>>> Internet such as >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://avalon.dragonflybsd.org/dports/ >>>>>> http://pkg.wolfpond.org/ >>>>>> http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This will be a very significant inconvenience for the possible users >>>>>> because without an installed FreeBSD , they will not be able to see what >>>>>> are the available packages there . >>>>>> >>>>> ???From the original message: >>>>> Mirrors you may use instead of the global >>>>> pkg.FreeBSD.org >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> pkg.eu.FreeBSD.org >>>>> pkg.us-east.FreeBSD.org >>>>> pkg.us-west.FreeBSD.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> pkg.freebsd.org is, basically, an alias for the above (and any other >>>>> mirrors that come online) and the pkg(1) tool will pick a "local" mirror >>>>> based on the DNS response for pkg.freebsd.org. >>>>> >>>>> However, you are free to manually enter any of the above mirrors into your >>>>> pkg.conf. >>>>> >>>>> And, you are free to browse any of the above mirrors via HTTP in any web >>>>> browser. >>>>> >>>>> It's not nearly as convenient as just browsing pkg.freebsd.org, but it's >>>>> still possible to do so. >>>> These are still SRV hosts as well. The real hosts can be found with >>>> >>>> dig SRV _http._tcp.HOST HOST being the host from above lists. >>>> >>> Please add this to pkg.conf(5) as this it not intuitive and the syntax >>> is a bit cumbersome. >> >> You will never have to know that syntax unless you're one of the few >> that are behind a very restrictive firewall/proxy. The pkg client does >> all this SRV record magic internally to find out a suitable mirror. >> > Right, but I actually happen to fall into that group at work. ;-) +1 Unless you track the mailing list, and know to use dig SRV _http._tcp.pkg.freebsd.org the inevitable questions will be asked - "Why can't I ...." Particularly as the availability of prebuilt packages is targeted at relatively new FreeBSD folk, or those that don't customise their ports. Thank-you.