From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 6 9:53:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mb1i0.ns.pitt.edu (mb1i0.ns.pitt.edu [136.142.186.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63ED37B424 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 09:53:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfg1+@pitt.edu) Received: from pitt.edu ("port 1057"@[136.142.20.153]) by pitt.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #41462) with ESMTP id <01K38SZKIQYG001ZQZ@mb1i0.ns.pitt.edu> for chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 6 May 2001 12:53:28 EDT Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 05:16:44 -0400 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Subject: Re: Is Brett Glass to easy on RMS? To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3AF5167C.6B88C588@pitt.edu> Organization: University of Pittsburgh MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf,es-CO References: <01050522221201.00681@blackmirror.xmission.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the US the policy has been that of increasing the number of hours in the work week. This has been done despite studies done in europe with HP and Volkswagen where it was actually showed that hiring people for half shifts increased productivity. This situation is becoming standard in all industries, not just in software or in Microsoft. The book "End of Work" mentions that all this modern techniques of continuous improvement, are just ways in which employees find better ways to be exploited. We are doomed. Pedro. Joe Warner wrote: > > Yes, it's certainly true that they pay well but that in itself comes with a > price. In order to get paid well, you basically have to sell your soul > to them. A guy I work with said that he has a neighbor who works for > them and a typical work week is 60 hours and it's not because he's > a work-a-holic, it's because it's standard policy. > > Joe > > On Sat, 05 May 2001, Joseph Mallett wrote: > > And FSF's Own the world is not a threat why? At least MS doesn't want to > > force anyone in industry to work for nothing -- they pay well. > > > > FSF wants programmers to die out. I second Brett's recommendation of > > 'Hackers', it explains the big bad crazy man quite well. > > > > -- > > [ Joseph Mallett ] > > [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ] > > [ Proud Open/Free/Net/4.4BSD User; C Programmer; Mad ] [ www.xMach.org ] > > > > Support my computer addiction buy something from http://www.jmallett.org > -- > Joe Warner > Daemon News > Bringing BSD Together > Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org > Daily Daemon News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message